I've been thinking, Disney has been pushing several 2010s films as marquee, flagship brands including full park , new films/show adaptions, being up and center for any Disney marketing or event. Outside the obvious Frozen there's also
>Moana
>Princess and the Frog
>Coco
The question is, is there data backing these up films as highly popular enough to have a big push? Or are they being pushed even if they are financial disappointments with middling popularity due to the skin color of the protagonists?
they keep pushing back the tiana show and its pissing me off, WHERES MY NOLA BASED CARTOON
Princess and the Frog is being used as some kind of racial equivalent exchange thing with Splash Mountain
Moana is actually popular, and the character is probably more well known than someone like Rapunzel
1. Elsa - $3,397,816
2. Cinderella - $2,504,259
3. Snow White - $2,301,831
4. Anna -$2,165,12
5. Ariel - $1,483,384
6. Rapunzel - $598,056
7. Aurora - $215,856
8. Merida - $282,188
9. Jasmine - $253,102
10. Tiana- $84,882
This data was before moana's release. She's actually pretty popular. No one likes Tiana, though.
To be fair, Princess and the Frog came out at a bad time for 2D animation, and apparently some dismissed it as a movie solely for girls because of the title.
Supposedly that's why they started using nebulous non-gendered titles like "Tangled" and "Frozen" instead of "Rapunzel" or "The Snow Queen"
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of.
Also to be fair, it was dogshit and Tiana has a kinda ugly design.
But yeah, sure, that 2d animation thing too.
There were multiple factors to its underperformance, it wasn't just one thing.
Yeah, you say that, but a lot of boys and men do end up watching them too.
"Boys" and "men"
Only ones that get a pass are fathers putting it on for their daughters.
They don't exactly go telling people, but just like boys watched PPG, many watched Disney Princess movies.
>1 in 5 gen z adults now identify a trans
Okay, zoomer.
All the Disney princess movies are only for girls. The closest to gender neutral is Aladdin, I guess.
I feel there's a lot of self-inserting with the younger target demographic which is why the princesses are usually the mains. It's not watching something for a crush but watching because you wanna be them.
For boys the shit was Aladdin and Hercules and Tarzan and even Lion King, those were more popular with boys because there was a guy protagonist that fills the role the princesses do for the girls
I don't really buy that, a gender neutral title is enough to "trick" people into watching a movie, as if they couldn't just read the synopsis and see it's a fricking Disney princess movie?
>as if they couldn't just read the synopsis and see it's a fricking Disney princess movie?
Most people aren't willing to do that lol, at most they'll watch a trailer but that's it, most people will in fact judge a movie by its title.
It's not about "tricking" people into seeing a movie, but having the connotations around them be less overtly girly. Same reasoning for why each of those movies has at least one major male main character, and why Frozen did well among boys
It's more that a gender slanted one will tell people to not watch a movie. I'll fully admit to thinking The Princess Bride was just about some princess on the run from her nuptials or something.
Funny because so too does the boy in the story.
You'd think that'd be a clue they should give it a different name. Cult hits don't usually pay the bills.
Anyone who was filtered by the name was deservedly so
That's not how communication works, and that's REALLY not how naming things you want to make money works.
One of the big points for Princess and the Frog was the 2D animation. I saw it in theaters when it was released, don't recall it being too busy.
holy shit look at the bootyblasted tone here from 2014 where those ebay doll sale stats dropped
>What is surprising is that the top-selling doll is one who doesn’t end up with a prince at the end. Now that’s progress. In fact, Elsa and Merida are the only dolls even on the list who don’t have a love story. But despite that victory, we still have a long way to go in our doll-purchasing habits. The blonde doll from Frozen unsurprisingly but sadly surpassed the brunette one. And the non-white princesses, Jasmine and Tiana, sat at the bottom of the list.
>No one likes Tiana, though.
Such a shame, I really liked that movie as a kid
I do think PATF is good and people do like her, but I do also think that's a more minor interest and she isn't a marquee Disney property in the slightest and is being exploited because of race to fill a demographic hole.
PATF deserves a small little food restaurant/stand in Disneyland's New Orleans Square. She does not deserve a restaurant, individual store and major e-ticket, marquee attraction at both US parks.
It kinda sucks the film is used for bait like this.
The problem with marketing towards black people is that they don't have as much money as white people. That's the reason there's affirmative action and reparations and such. When companies like Disney market towards black people for films and merchandise, they can initially make a lot by virtue of it being niche and black people not having a lot of options. But once they do have options, they don't have the money to spend on all of them so it thins out quickly. It was always a financial disaster waiting to happen.
They have less disposable income, but they spend a larger fraction of it on frivolous bullshit.
They are also the most race-conscious group in america, so black <anything> tends to sell very well.
Do you think all (or even most) blacks are subsisting on EBT with zero unnecessary expenses? Who do you think still buys menthols?
Belle and Mulan didn’t even make the top 10.
You didn't even post the worst of it. Like 75% of the shit at the new Star Wars Land in MGM is from the new trilogy. All the merchandise stations/stores were stuffed with ben solo, ray and mandalorian crap. Luke, han solo and hayden christiansen crap was rare
That's because Galaxy's Edge was put into construction when the ST was still a hot commodity. A lot of people think that once it's time to start retouching and updating the place it's going to get an OT retheme or Disney is going to do another SW push.
>A lot of people think that once it's time to start retouching and updating the place
Kek when do you think that will happen?
That's 20 years out at minimum. Disney will have lands and rides literally fall apart and won't change them, only refurb if the ride isn't fully operational. Look how they sell endless Purple Imagination Dragon products but won't refurb that ride despite it being the top interest of people and literally falling apart
Swapping the outfits of the animatronics and shooting new intro films on Rise gets you 70% of the way there. The design of Galaxy's Edge was a massive hedge. Also remember that GE has been open for 5 years now, so 2035-2040 would be around the right time for them to have to put major work in the area and release a new SW trilogy for a new generation.
>Moana
A good portion of the reason for that movie to be made when it was made was that Disney opened a resort in Hawaii, and didn't think Lilo and Stitch was a good enough tie-in.
>due to the skin color of the protagonists?
I'm betting it's more a mixture of "we need new shit to keep it fresh" and "we need new shit to not get raped by public domain".
the brown tide is just a side effect of hiring virtue signalling women
Wait what? I thought people liked the PATF? I remember having the movie on dvd and playing on the dvd player till the thing broke