I've never seen a "punk" in real life. I assume because it went out of fashion at some point in the past. Old guys of tv. What were the punks like?
I've never seen a "punk" in real life. I assume because it went out of fashion at some point in the past.
they drink a lot, smell bad, always bumming cigarettes
real scumbags
they evolved into crust-punks
>crust
i knew some of the phony ones that the movie makes fun of a bit. they mostly just did it for the fashion and music, but whatever. the whole meaning to the ending is that they're all morons wearing uniforms
I like the fact that the movie basically said that Jason Segel's character was the most punk out of all of them, even though he doesn't look it. That basically sums up the point of the movie 20 minutes in.
This and this
Also, punk sucks.
>Learn about this film
>Know a few IRL Mormons
>Expect an interesting look at Mormon counter-culture, since this is set in Utah
>"I'm israeli, and-"
Immediately dropped. What is even the point of this?
cities like that are prone to have teens trying to rebel, right? i guess it could have taken place in the midwest as well. I don't know why you'd go in automatically thinking Mormons would be heavily featured. Basically the only thing is that they have to travel to another city to get booze
Because Utah in the 1980's (when this film is set) was literally 80% Mormon. There's no reason to set a film in 1980's Utah, specifically, unless you wanted to work the Mormon angle.
>movie set where 80% of the city is Mormon
>movie is about punks rebelling against their families and society
maybe that's why it didn't focus on the punks being Mormon.
>unless you wanted to work the Mormon angle.
They kind of did. They establish that it's a really weird place to be a punk in the '80s, making it a unique setting. How the city hated them more because of their Mormon beliefs. How it was harder to just exist in public, get alcohol, cops came down harder on them, etc... It was meant to be an oppposition to just a punk movie set in LA, New York or Philadelphia or whatever. Setting matters.
There were several different types of people who got into it for different reasons. There were legitimate lumpenproles who had no labour power and were only interested in drugs. Then there was the reaction to that with straight edge music, which was kind of a proto-incel nofap type of situation. Then it evolved into overly educated college kids at Berkeley and other leftist schools pretending to be slumlords. Then the 90s happened and punk became TRL-core for young young kids.
>straight edge music, which was kind of a proto-incel nofap type of situation
lol
i thought the punk subculture was cool when i was a teenager, then i realized that they're basically just homeless bums
A lot of them got way too obsessed with drugs. I'm no moralgay; casual use is fine, but many of those morons chose to be hardcore drug abusers, and that was simply cringe.
what did these people do for money?
Crime
mooch off people
For me? It's SLC Crunk
the superior punk film
>You're frickin' A we ripped your car, butthole. You want to know who told us where it was? Your god-damned brother.
This is true. The punk attitude is 10x more distinct than any mohawk red dye, spend two hours to get ready for the concert poser. That guy was in Hackers too, another poser movie.
1)just read repo man 2 is in thoughts for a movie
2)repo man sounndtrack sucks
3)burned it with the rest of his records
Cringe. The only more cringe was the pop-punks of the early noughties. Oi! Was the only decent and original indie scene.
Oi was even gayer than Ska.
>Oi was even gayer than Ska
This guy got beat up at a show once and is still mad about it.
>doesn’t refute, projects instead
You’re a washed up homosexual who larped as a Brit, as grim as it gets.
>doesn't refute, projects instead
Right back at you, pussy.
Sounds like projection.
Oldgay here. Was actually running around as a yute in the '80s, the tail end of the post-punk era. The real punk era was late '70s. SLC Punk! kind of did that movie thing and made the punk aesthetic too clean and fashionable. True, every city had different punk scenes and different sub-scenes. But SLC Punk! did kind of make it look like if JC Penny had a punk section. Real punks were dirtier, crasser. They never bathed or cared about what they looked or smelled like. And they listened to more extreme music. The music in SLC Punk! is good, but it's like a top-40 best hits of mid-'80s punk songs. Not really many deep cuts there. And real punks didn't have daddy to bail them out. They were essentially couch surfers and bums, lived in squats, etc...
Isn't that kind of the point of the movie? They were all posers in the end.
>Isn't that kind of the point of the movie? They were all posers in the end.
The characters in the movie? Yes. It essentially applies to any "scene" in general. Punks, metalheads, goths, etc... They are all just copying an aesthetic. It's the opposite of rebellion or originality. It's the same as wanting to dress in Old Navy or Gap clothes and look like every other kid in your click.
>Duke, let's do some crimes
>Yeah, let's go get sushi and not pay
So if you think about it the alt right is more punk rock than antifa.
great movie, i lived like a punk or grunger all my life but ive never really been into the fashion aspect cause obsessing over that is not what a real punk would do
>Old guys of tv. What were the punks like?
The punkrock scene was a lot of fun. There were lefty pseuds, hedonistic nihilists, drug addicts, poseurs with rich parents, and genuine freaks. The conservatives were even represented by baldies and skinheads. It was fricking great. Getting in fights, getting drunk, getting high, getting aressted, getting laid, everybody pretending it was all so important, but mostly just partying and going to shows all the time. And then I got too old to hang around anymore, because only old hippies can get away with it, while old punks are just child molesters and burn outs.j2k8m
Oh yeah, I forgot abput the incessant debaye about who was REALLY a punk and who was a poseur.
Skins aren’t punk.
What are you talking about? Skins here pre-dated white power movements, it was appropriated later on.
Your post is irrelevant. I’m from the country skins originate from, none would call themselves punks
Still doesn’t make them punks. Plus American skins were an affectation. Why did skins wear boots? Why did they shave their heads? Why did they turn up their jeans and wear braces?
I didn't call them punks, I said they pre-dated the neo-nazi subculture and I'm correct.
And as I said your post is irrelevant to mine. You are also incorrect, it always went hand in hand with the concerns of the white working class, and was therefore the progenitor of national front/bnp subculture.
They were just as likely to be trade unionists or communists. It was a white working class look but it was not mutually exclusive with white power beliefs.
Nope. They were working class not middle class.
Back in the day everyone all hung out in the same places. There was a lot of overlap, and most of the skins I knew had punk or goth girlfriends. Were there arguments and fights? Absolutely? Did it change the fact we all shared the same spaces? No.
We also had a big group of greasers/rockabilly dudes who were absolutely legit. They fixed up old cars and could dance better than anyone else. The chicks who were with them were the c**tiest b***hes in the whole scene and hands down caused the most trouble.
I fricking hate rockabilly hipsters.
Had a rockabilly dude as a friend in high school who got groomed by this 20 something chick on myspace lol
I think sometimes people think punks were just bohemians and while there were similarities they weren’t the same. Bohemians were working class creative types who luxuriated in their faux poverty because it gave them some kind of feeling of authenticity. The original punks were The Ramones and they suffered in their poverty- Dee Dee was a rent boy for fricks sake. New York City was still dirty and full of crime and that made for a pressure cooker. It makes sense young people would find some way to express their rage and use music as an outlet. Bowie set the stage for the Brits with Ziggy Stardust bucking gender norms and what a performer could be. I think that had a big impact on the DIY aesthetic adopted by The Sex Pistols. Johnny Rotten was kind of the boy who shouted the emperor has no clothes but I’d argue Joe Strummer (who was secretly a rich kid) took that transgressive stance and made it more coherent. The thing with counter cultural movements is, given enough time, they all eventually get consumed by the culture at large and churned out into another product to be consumed. By the time the pop punk revival of the early 2000’s was in full swing, it had fully become a fashion trend. If you wanted to look like a punk all it took was a trip to Hot Topic. The punk aesthetic appealed to adolescents because the dissatisfaction with the status quo was still there but it was fully defanged.
you want to see one, go to SLC or the four corners region
PUNK is still big and lots of local bands are still alive
theyre all cool, krust-Es, metalheads and juggalos
they role in herds
nice people
Mostly by the late 90s only Crust punks remained, and they smelled
The chick at the end with the thick eyebrows was hot as FRICK. she'd make me rethink my entire life too.
I saw a punk couple once in the early 2010s. They were as punk as they could be aesthetically with their Mohawks and everything.
>I've never seen a "punk" in real life.
Rancid's still touring. You'll find a few at their concerts, though they're going to be in their 40's.
Anyone try the sequel? Don’t it’s bad. It’s basically just a reboot and it sucks
The punks acted like antifa morons.
Why did he stop making these?
>it went out of fashion
Fashion is all punk ever was. They even say that in the movie.
What weird subcultures did you see in your high school? For me it was the weird mallgoth kids. It was two guys that went super hardcore into the look and one of the guy's normalish gf who just work a band shirt. The guys would wear skirts and shit because being gender non confirming is so rebellious. That was back in 05-06 before every other kid was a troony though.
Juggalos. They're just normal kids, until they get their hands on meth.
I was part of the first wave of ninja weaboos back in the mid oughts. Then when one piece got big a rival faction of pirates sprang up. The school banned anime in fear of a gang war.
Not in high school but community college
>probably 80% of the students were black
>be a metalhead with long hair wearing some death metal band shirt
>walking down the hall and see a punk guy
>stopped for a moment and gave each other a nod and then went off on our way
they were pretty much dead around the time i was in school like 2000-2009. there was only like 10 punks max at my schools and outside of school i never saw any. they started making a comeback lately though, they're much more punks in school and in the streets in general. here in los angeles you'll probably see several a day if you actually go out.
there is still punks you moron we just arent walking cliches left over from the 70s
04 freshman high school
the only "punk" kid was exactly the exaggerately studded leather crap with a very special ponytail, but he hosted the homeroom/first class tv news shit.
everybody liked him, he graduated early, and there were no more punk-ish persons
sorry not ponytail, mohawk. liberty spiked with baby blue
punk is homosexual shit
Imagine the smell.
i remember one guy i knew turned punk. he was nice enough guy and all but he bragged about doing disgusting shit like going around drinking the leftover beer at the bottom of peoples miscellaneous discarded beer cans after a show
for my part i was also a metal head and was a degenerate too did and said a lot im not proud of, nothing that low though
another guy who called himself a "crust punk" who humble-bragged about being homeless and robbing people in Calgary
imo, totally projecting, but also from what ive observed in others in these sorts of communities too, is that the entire "alternative" thing is basically just dressed up mental illness and neuroticism.
people turn their addictions, insecurities, general mental illness into a fashion statement to cope, then into a political statement to enable self destructive behavior. its really sad and funked up to see the suffering play out "behind the curtain" of "reckless fun-loving" that is on the surface of these things . textbook example of people who are suffering and desperately need help but refuse to be helped.
Shut the frick up Dr Phil.
Anarchy in the UK.
The "punks" got co-opted by the liberals.
go to skidrow and just imagine all of them with spiky hair and spikes in their clothes, that's how they behaved and looked like.
Used to hang out with some gutter punks a decade ago but all those dudes are dead now. Homeless drug addict train hoppers. Scumfricks. I'm guessing it's pretty close to whatever a crustpunk is.
I turned to punk as one of the only outlets for masculinity growing up liberal
like seriously what else is there? long distance running? hiking? copying blacks? drugs? what POSSIBLE masculine activity or identity to liberal youths have?
and punk music was aggressive and focused unlike the dogshit mtv music that was popular
for these reasons punk was an appealing pseudo tribe but the people I found in it were disappointing.
I listened again to some of the music lately and it was actually very good, very well made and catchy. the lyrics were all nihilism and demoralization though