I've watched the hbomberguy video on this, and his arguments were pretty solid and robust but...how reasonably can I cope that this deserves its 9.1 rating and that I should watch it anyway? I'm at a point where I'm so fricking desperate for something genuinely good to watch that I'm almost willing to watch it at this point, despite what I know about it.
But if I watch it and it's shit, I think my faith in this medium will reach a breaking point. I recently watched season 1 of leftovers that somebody recommended here, and it was so fricking unbelievably bad that I had to literally force myself through Jill's 8 year old temper tantrums, because that is some morons stereotypical idea of what "teenagers" are.
FRICK MAN FUUUUUUUUUCK. JUST GIVE ME SOMETHING GOOD TO WATCH AHHHH NOTHING IS FRICKING GOOD RIGHT NOW HOLY FRICK.
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>hbomberguy
I don't usually say this but you should have a nice day.
>I don't usually say this but you should have a nice day.
thanks, but I've been told this enough recently. I just want to get away from everybody and immerse myself in a genuinely well written show. In the meantime I'm trying to watch Dark, and it's pretty engaging so far. But I thought I'd check out Sherlock too since it just seems so short. Like 3 episodes per season? Wtf were they even thinking? Not that I'm complaining
Season 1 and 2 are fine. HbomberBlack person is gay. The appeal of Cumberbatch Sherlock is to watch him insult people’s intelligence with his cool voice, it’s a fun power fantasy. Just don’t watch beyond season 2
Big Black wiener's Sherlock is an okay watch for the first two seasons. The entire appeal as said is seeing Crumpetsnatch being a wienery bastard, in the same way that House was fun. Don't expect any actually smart shit, it's just le wacky adventures of the omniscient detective and his manlet sidekick. If you enjoy that sort of stuff, it's pretty fun. Season 3 and up are just dogshit though.
>in the same way that House was fun.
You understand nothing about House.
You should have a nice day.
so he's right and...you just wanted to tell me to kill myself anyway?
because that shitty fricking Cinemaphile meme you just posted is essentially what hbomberguy argues for the entire video
so you guys are just as much morons that follow a conventional opinion as you think I am
is this what people call "projecting"?
Cinemaphile used to be kino
then it took and arrow to the knee
>hbomberguy
>insanely neurotic and can't enjoy a thing
That tracks. God I despise leftists, and especially snooty little homosexual UK leftists. Makes me feel sick to be English.
neurotic and can't enjoy a thing
??? where is the evidence of this correlation? moron
>insanely neurotic and can't enjoy a thing
you're desribing people on this shithole though
Fricking this. The worst consequence of the alt-right was the creation of Breadtube.
t. Marxist
Reminder he gaslit a rape victim because the rapist was his friend, sucked Hassan wiener for permission to make a joke about him, harrased women back when he was a something awful goon and donated thousands of dollars to a child mutilation cult. But he's "reformed" now lol
Clearly not enough since your still here
Dark turns to shit bro. Don't bother. There are hardly any well written shows in existence. Just stick to movies.
>Dark turns to shit bro.
>t. American
Dutch and i understand German reasonably well. That's not the point. The story ends up being very convoluted and forced. Things happen because they have to happen for the plot and not because they happen in a natural way. I quit 1,5 episodes before the end. If you like to watch a young German girl cry a lot you should watch it.
>The story ends up being very convoluted
Kek.
>Things happen because they have to happen for the plot
Imagine so fundamentally misunderstanding the concept of a "closed loop" that you complain about it seeming as if the outcome forced the actions that lead to it. No shit, Sherlock.
>The story ends up being very convoluted and forced. Things happen because they have to happen for the plot and not because they happen in a natural way.
For fricking real the story became so stupidly contrived that Im literally forcing myself to get through at this point.
The point I truly realized it, is when Hannah just calls Charlotte randomly to let her know about Older Jonas???? And then you realize they end up telling Katharina and you realize "oh, that's why she called her" And then you go back even further and realize how fricking stupid it was for Jonas to tell Hannah anything. Why? For what? They called Katharina just to tell her about Mikkel, but she literally couldn't fricking contribute anything at that point? They called Charlotte to tell her something she already basically pieced together on her own? He told Hannah...for what again? What the frick seriously was the point? Isn't he on a mission? What the frick is Hannah going to help with?
Unironically the only person that should have been told anything was Charlotte, without the presence of Hannah, because atleast she was competent enough to put most of the threads together and could ACTUALLY help with her resources at the police.
It's all so fricking stupid. And don't pull that "not every character interaction needs to forward the story, sometimes it just needs to be emotional moment between characters!" What fricking deep message about relationships was being said when Older Jonas said his mom only needs herself in the end? Something we already knew? Or when Katharina realizes Mikkel was in 1986, and then fricking just cries like a loser? Who the frick cares? Her reaction was so predictable and simple. There was no depth or nuance of character to be explored there.
Frick. I'm still going tho because I have a weakness for mystery, and atleast Dark isn't as annoying with its characters as The Leftovers was.
Stop seeking a well written show, instead change your standards for what is well written, and then you can make any show well written to your eyes.
Seize the power within yourself.
>Stop seeking a well written show, instead change your standards for what is well written, and then you can make any show well written to your eyes.
>Seize the power within yourself.
I used to think like this, with anime and manga. That I COULD SEE the good writing where even few others could, and could make almost anything "well written" if I put any effort but...dude, you seriously must not have read (and by read I mean manga), or watched enough modern entertainment, because holy frick, it is so fricking easy to write shitty fricking characters.
I get made fun of so fricking hard for genuinely thinking House up to S5 finale is peak television, but everybody else MUST be doing what you're suggesting, because if they can't see that House is so far ahead of most media in terms of character depth, then I don't know what to tell morons.
I used to think that I was overeating house by the time I finished it, but that's only because I didn't see how fricking bad it was everybody else. House is good, but it sticks to the basics, the fundementals of character writing, it isn't crazy bold or anything...well in the modern day it probably is, but that's another argument.
I could write essays on why House is so good and nobody would care. Because everyone is doing what you're telling me to do. Only seeing what they want to see.
I can't do it anymore. Not enough media has a good enough base for me to do it. They all do something egregious, and NO it's not being "woke" it's this feeling, that by trying to make every character "human" and "real" they forget to actually make them a PERSON. An INDIVIDUAL. To modern entertainment and seemingly most people, "real" just means a collection of familiar quirks making up an archetype that is so relatable that you forget they're just an archetype molded to fit neatly into the story, and nothing else.
>hbomberguy
you should have a nice day.
Don't care about youtubers or imdb. Cinemaphile doesn't like it.
ye
>ever watching hkilledaguy
you should James Somerton yourself
watch the UK version of Utopia
>watch the UK version of Utopia
Eh, I watched pyrocinals 8 hours video on it, so I can't imagine it's worth trying to watch the whole thing
Especially since, isn't it's ending shit and basically unfinished?
>IPs gone
>Suddenly /misc/tards think their spam works
I think Hbomberguy is annoying at times, but he is correct about Sherlock.
>I've watched the hbomberguy video on this
Eww
The first 2 seasons have moments that probably make the episodes worth watching. They aren't great and they don't hold up to any level of scrutiny, but they're ok. Beyond that it's fricking godawful.
I think it's crazy how in hindsight, actually the whole show was pretty weird and dumb, but at the very least if you're new to it the first two, maybe even the third, season are actually fine? Personally I think it just went full moron with Watson's wife being a fricking Agent 47, but up til then it was at least watchable.
But holy frick when they did the shit in the last one where suddenly everything before is invalidated and they add this secret new character that was always there but everyone just...forgot about her? Yeah, holy frick did that retroactively ruin everything.
Also the suicide thing was fricking dumb. Like I get that he faked his death in the stories, but the way it was done in the context of the narrative was awful.
Just watch the Jeremy Brett series if you want good Holmes.
If you just want solid TV, watch I, Claudius or the old Shogun series with Mifune, or Deadwood, or Sharpe.
>or Deadwood
Either justify this. Or you have unbelievably shit taste. And think "omg boobs and uhhh, hardcore violence!! and uhhh...le cool smoking character omg!! so rugged so real!!!"
and don't actually care about any actual fricking writing beyond embodying a boring aesthetic
You will never be a woman
Why would you care about either this piece of shit, or a youtuber (piece of shit)'s opinion on it?
It's an irrelevant commentary on something that isn't worth wasting a single thought on, let alone a whole video of some guy rambling. (I assume that's what he did? They always do that.)
british television is not good
cuck island gives us good filmmakers and good authors
they make bad tv
If you voluntarily watch and enjoy fricking hbomberguy, your tastes are all out of whack, but Severance is genuinely good: https://youtu.be/xP7EvEMMUDo
Sad thing is, we did make some great TV once upon a time (Civilisation, I, Clavdivs, Tinker, Tailor, Soldier Spy, Yes Minister, Jeeves & Wooster etc), but that hasn't been the case for decades.
>but Severance is genuinely good:
already watched it. It is currently my only hope in modern tv in season 2, a solid 8-8.5/10
her pantyline is so noticable in that show, was it intentional?
everything is intentional, including skin tight skirts to show off her nice bum
God I love office ladies
>hmurdererguy
>I've watched the hbomberguy video
His arguments are all built on a faulty premise that Sherlock is meant to be a traditional detective show where the audience can solve the mystery and fails at it because Sherlock discovers things the audience could have never deduced.
It's not that type of show and never attempted to be that type of show. The original sherlock books weren't like that either.
hbomberguy is a pseud and he has shit opinions
>His arguments are all built on a faulty premise that Sherlock is meant to be a traditional detective show where the audience can solve the mystery and fails at it because Sherlock discovers things the audience could have never deduced.
>It's not that type of show and never attempted to be that type of show. The original sherlock books weren't like that either.
>hbomberguy is a pseud and he has shit opinions
This is the only reasonable counter argument I see, and the one I thought up. But it's also a weak counterargument, it feels like the same justification as "ITS INTENTIONALLY SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT OKAY??!!!??!????"
Regardless of what it was trying to be, the deductions are ridiculous, and not fun "ridiculous" like House. But actually legit moronic. And the characters are shit and barely real, and the actual narrative itself is fricking moronic. It's just shit writing regardless
Didn’t hbomberguy destroy a gay man’s career and drive him to suicide? So much for the tolerable left.
>I watched a youtube video to know what to think about a show instead of watching it myself
>then I went on Cinemaphile to ask them what I should do about the fact that it's highly rated on imdb
You should give away all your belongings and sell yourself into indentured servitude because you've got a clear slave mentality.
Sherlock fricking stinks. Overrated drek.
Watch Mr. Inbetween instead.
>hbomberguy
stop living
hbomberguy killed a man
el stupido