Built for Paul.
Peter was just holding her back.
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Built for Paul.
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Frick off with that prostitute
Is there anything worse in comics than the supporting cast also becoming superheroes?
>Is there anything worse in comics than the supporting cast also becoming superheroes?
Love interests becoming superheroes.
That's the same thing but ok
>That's the same thing
Oh trust me it's not
Making Flash Thompson Venom wasn't terrible, but Mary Jane as Jackpot?
Oof
Just oof
But she’s no longer Peter’s love interest.
Good this means someone may finally shoot her in the head and rape paul
Actually
It'd be really fricking hilarious if her actions as a super hero caused Paul's death, and the constant guilt and hardship of living a double life as a superhero is what it takes for her to finally, truly understand Peter.
Yeah.
Because that always lasts every time it happens.
Mary Jane will always be Peter's love interest because that's the one the general public knows and associates with Spider-Man, and she always will be.
The only love interests more well know than MJ in comics are Catwoman for Batman and Lois Lane for Superman.
I hate it. I fricking hate it so much. It misses the point of superheroes so fricking hard. They NEED these regular people around them to keep them grounded. Frick Rick Jones, Mary Jane and Lana Lang. All fricking ruined.
Geez dude.
Calm down.
I actually think this is a really cool trope when it's done as a one-off thing, for funsies. or for a short arc.
Agreed
Yes
I'm out of the loop. What is Battle Toad Spider-Man's deal?
He's a demon with a symbiote that larps as Spidey because he was saved by Peter and considers him to be a true hero. His unique super power is that he makes those evil enough to take modern Spidey seriously or view it as having artistic merit seethe.
I thought that was Miles’ power. Or was it Ghost Spider’s? Or Spider-boy’s? Or Scarlet Spider’s? Or the other Scarlet Spiders’s?
Face it, Cebulski, nobody likes you, Black person.
You can never land a woman like MJ in real life. Have fun dying alone you worthless fat balding freak.
>”I have to pretend the kids mattered and my choices were right, otherwise I look like a complete idiot”
>I'll never forget their names which I totally do know.
Irreparably damaged with this decision. Feminism ruins another woman.
She and Peter are gonna be a couple again before the end of next year kek. Bad bait
The hero thing also won't last. It's only ever lasted for flash.
And it's hardly feminism just bnd gays that hate mj.
If this were the 90's or 2000's, I'd agree. Unfortunately, its current year. You can't have a fun distraction anymore. They already turned Blackcat gay in the shitty game. They'll do another team up book where they go full lesbo.
When is the last time we had normal female characters talking about men they liked BTW? Honest question.
Black cat has been gay since 2003. Well bi.
And the spidey books had Peter and mj talk about Peter two years ago lol. Right now it's just a bnd tsrd writing but they've been trying to frick over mj since 2008. It never sticks because they write awful shit.
>Two years ago
>twenty four issues and who knows how many spinoffs ago
Romance is dead at Marvel.
It's just been one run. One that's ending this year. Shits gonna get better for asm no matter what.
>Shits gonna get better for asm no matter what
Yeah. Like when Slott was off the book
Things got better!
Too much better. Which is why we have Wells now.
For 3 years yes? Wells was a return to shit but Spencer was less shit lol.
Make a non bait thread then
She's Bi anon.
>They already turned Blackcat gay in the shitty game.
Felicia has been bisexual for an eternity.
So had Catwoman
So has Wonder Woman.
Plenty of hot super heroines were bisexual long before all the woke shit. Because back when they were made bisexual, it was a decision by horny men writing women for a other horny men.
Why wouldn't you want a hot bisexual woman? It's all the joy of watching two hot lesbians put their mouths on each other but they still like men. It sends a signal to your lower brain that a woman who likes men but also likes women is more open to MFF threesomes. And that's keen.
Not the point. And do I have to post the thing?
We're not getting "hot lesbian action". We're getting autistic lesbians written by people who don't under how sex and relationships in general work. That's why Tim Drake and Alan Scott will never be seen in relationships with women ever again.
But who knows. Maybe Marvel will fire all the troublemakers and we can stop talking about poorly done nonsensical character changes.
Tim is bi not gay. Alan is full gay. Tim probably will at some point. Alan never ever.
Anon I'm saying that they didn't "Make" Felicia a lesbian.
I'm saying she was made bisexual back when the decision was driven by horniness and not ideological pandering.
You can't retroactively complain about character changes that people were fine with when they happened just because politics have changed since then.
Will anyone ever mod that face?
>Why wouldn't you want a hot bisexual woman? It's all the joy of watching two hot lesbians put their mouths on each other but they still like men. It sends a signal to your lower brain that a woman who likes men but also likes women is more open to MFF threesomes. And that's keen.
I have porn for that you stupid limpdick. I don’t want that shit in my comics.
You’re in the minority then.
I'll admit the main reason why I want Peter x Felicia is cause she is bisexual.
>Peter x felicia
Man this run did that dirtier than even Mj
>phoneposter cuck also spams Paul/MJ threads
sad but predictable
Keep seething, Peter
black cat is better!
Peter/MJ Marriage Supporters:
>Jim Shooter, head editor
>Stan Lee. Who did it in the newspaper strip to begin with and officiated an irl wedding.
>John Romita sr. Arguably the most influential spider-man artist of all time, constantly spoke positively of the marriage.
>Defalco. Originally he was against it, but came around to it pretty fast to the point he wrote it even after it got erased.Shit talked quesada for getting rid of it.
>JMD who considered it the soul of the single most critically acclaimed spider-man story and still says they're married today.
>Michelini who wrote the marriage itself and has never expressed dislike of it
>JMS who made the relationship key to the overall run and one of the most important parts of it
>Mark Millar. Whose only time writing a mainline spider-man story had the marriage with MJ at a central position.
>Bendis. Who publicly defended the marriage as a natural point for the character in wizard
>Todd macfarlne. Just as an excuse to draw a hot redhead but still.
>Sauvik. Draws the marriage stuff even on his own time
>Ron Frenz. Probably tied to spider-girl more than anything, but always supported it
>Ollife. Expressed similar thoughts as frenz
>Peter David. Has only spoken positvley about it and has peter refer to MJ as the most important person to him.
>Sacasa. Was so against erasing the marriage he literally had god tell peter not to do it
>Fraction. Was so against it he wrote a one shot to celebrate peter and mj and one of two eisner winning spider-man stories
>George Perez. Publicly supported it
Neutral/its complicated
>Mackie. He didn't mind the marriage but thought that peter was still written too young for it and not allowed to progress
>Roger stern. He didn't mind peter being married, but thought mj was not the ONE. Which is ironic since he brought her back after 6 years.
>JRJR its kind of hard to really know. He's worked on both anti and pro marriage runs. He seems to like drawing her, but that's kinda the end of it. He's said himself he likes gwen more but being dead so, yeah complicated for sure.
>Conway. Likes MJ a lot, and was the guy who pushed her as main LI, and wrote the marriage stuff. But also doesn't have an issue with the marriage being written out. But by his own words he checked out of spider-man mentally in the 90s.
>Zradsky. His works always have peter and mj in a relationship or ending in one, but he's also said he models MJ after his ex-wife...so mixed. Although his one 616 MJ moment in his spec run had peter motivated by her to do the impossible.
>Larsen. Loves drawing MJ but thinks that peter is a teenager's fantasy and that marriage has no place there.
>Jenkins. Prefers gwen but has said he sees MJ as the second-best fit.
>Glen. As long as he could write some goblins he gave no shit.
>Grant Morrison. Was willing to do a story during it, but clearly has said only ditko spider-man matters.
Opposed
>Jim oswley. Thought the marriage made spidey too old and ruined his friendship with shooter over it.
>Bob Harras. Thought the marriage made spidey too old.
>John bryne. Thought the marriage made spidey too old
>Slott. Thought the marriage made spidey too old. Thinks its too much of a finale for spider-man and that it should NEVER have happened.
>Quesada. Thought the marriage made spidey too old an unrelatable
>Breevort. Thought the marriage made spidey too old and kneecaped the "inherent" conflict of the character
>Busiek. Thought the marriage made spidey too old.
>Dan Didio. Hated all comic book marriages (even reed/sue).
>Waid, Tought the marriage made spidey too old and unrelatable
>Wells. Thinks the marriage is too much of an ending for spider-man. Makes him too old
>Van lente. Thought the marriage made spider-man too old.
>Guggeingheim. Thought the marriage made spider-man too old
>Brubaker. Felt the marriage didn't let him tell as story he wanted with spider-man (never wrote it).
>John semper: Said spider-man getting the girl ends the story.
>Wolfman: Hates MJ.
Modern supporters
>Pat Gleason. To the point he still calls her mary jane watson parker in interviews and drew her with a wedding ring with peter in beyond's covers.
>Carlos Gomez. Publicly shit talked the current run for splitting them up and said he'd always view them as a couple.
>Kaare Andrews. Publicly said they would always get back together and wrote a story where mj's death is the single most traumatic thing for peter.
>Danny Khazheem. Who called married spider-man "his" spider-man in the letter's page for Lost Hunt.
>Adam Huges: Expressed that he's a supporter of it as well, said mj is the hottest civilian gf too
>Coates: Wrote an article defending the marriage
>Cates: Liked stuff shitting on editorial for being anti marriage, generally 90s-kid
>George R martin (okay not a comic writer but still). Publicly shit talked marvel for getting rid of the marriage.
>Kevin Feigue. Dude flat out said so in the 900 interviews
>>Kurt Busiek opposed
No!! Kurt no!!!!
kek holy shitting loser
Based pasta poster. All the best writers being pro says a lot.
Should have stayed as Iron Spider.
This is a phonecuck thread. Phonecuck hides ace of spades in his pics because he loves cuckposting.
So how long until MJ gets brutally beaten within an inch of her life while playing hero?
Or worse, how long until she gets over confident and slips up, causing a more experienced hero who gives a shit about her like Peter or Felicia to find themselves on death's door on MJ's behalf?
can somebody pinpoint in Cinemaphile archives when this ladderbro and barry and jerry and tommy about spider-man, gwen and maryjane started? And WHY?
thanks in advance.
>>Bow down to your Queen.
Peterbros, we lost.
phoneposter, just stop. this is sad
No!
We’re going down with 2023.
To the death.