Jacob's Ladder

>make movie about CIA/Army frickery with Vietnam war soldiers with "not-bz" drug
>official reviewers bomb it because CIA/Army plants gonna plant
>eventually the director "had to" cut out the parts where the CIA/Army had to "clean up" a maker of the drug and any whistleblowers
>maybe the fourth wall too much if you know what I mean

>most people consider it a great
>probably one of the most influential films of all time, especially in modern psych horror and even video games with the Silent Hill franchise being the most obvious

Frick the CIA.
Also please release a director's cut with all the end shit in it. This film doesn't get enough attention even with it's modern legacy in various media.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern film is just propaganda because of Obama legalising it. Frick n*gers and women

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >propaganda in film started in 2008
      O i am laffin

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        ignorant fool.

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          The way propaganda works, you wouldn’t have sources to post.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is that why I can't find things on Google that I used to be able to find?
            Oh btw that's all just money causing those search hierarchies. Because what greater tool to disguise propaganda than with money?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Project Mockingbird

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Most of the shit that the CIA release to the public nowadays they merely do so because it was leaked by a foreign subversive act to the public.
          That and they were probably becoming fed up with their own history at that stage. I would be disgusted to hear about such a thing if I went to join such an organisation in good faith. The problem is, you need leverage and a lot of balls to reveal such things. So foreign subversion is the only method there (although that isn't safe either if you have the potentially of compromising their mission unknowingly - they might just get rid of you).

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don’t know the first thing about the agency pal.

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >please release
    Piracy and archival are the only ways to ensure artistic accuracy. You should know by now to never ask for modern studios to rerelease anything. The politically extremist pondscum that invaded those institutions are incapable of putting anything out without maliciously altering it to fit their fundamentalist dogma.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Piracy and archival are the only ways to ensure artistic accuracy
      This never got a proper theatrical release though. It's always been like 20mins cut of vital shit at the end because clearly someone told them to cut it.

      I'm actually furious at this because I love this film already and the cut content sounds like it would just make it even better.
      It's like turning a 10/10 into an 11/10.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am stunned they never released this properly.
    This shit is great horror both psychologically and visually, viscerally.

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    The guy in the poster, is that JigC?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who?
      It's Tim Robbins.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >note: they call it lsd here, but this sounds like something else entirely

    People used to think it was merely LSD they gave soldiers too.
    BZ is one of the worst hallucinogens out there. It is painful to use and causes horrendous effects on the mind.
    Apparently Saddam was mean to have some and that was one of the weapons of mass destruction they were looking for.
    The CIA still pretend they found nothing. I'm not convinced at all.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >posting ancient leftoid propaganda
      kys

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >being a drone that actually endorses a state that mind fricks their civilians with drugs to the point of delirium

        Go glow somewhere else.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          frick of shill

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          there are subhumans on this board who will unironically defend waco/ruby ridge
          you share this board with literal golems whose brand loyalty extends to shit like pic related
          its not a stretch to see them endorse this sort of shit

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If there's one thing a combat unit in Vietnam needs, it's the point man running into the jungle screaming his head off because he's having a bad trip
      It just seems moronic

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you seen how dumb the US Army is?
        Or did the fall of Kabul just slip your mind?

        There are many reasons why it would consider that useful... but mainly not on their own personnel.
        No that's why they end up using it more on civilians and enemy forces nowadays.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh no they took pics with dead combatants.
          how dumb

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            You mean the pics where they stacked prisoners of war several men high in the nude and humiliated them while saying "cheese"?

            That's not an apt comparison, unless you've got evidence the US was actively sabotaging the Afghan government forces as part of some sort of military experiment.

            There's proof they just let the Afghan government forces rot with no maintenance, did deals with the taliban and then got the frick out of there.
            But the bz is most likely relevant to what just happened with covid and the state of terror and hysteria that was happening at the time.
            There was clearly something systematic about how it manifested, especially with the 2020 puppet show election and getting people to comply with the complete deprivation of liberty.

            Because I wouldn't be surprise if they put it in your tap water nowadays.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >You mean the pics where they stacked prisoners of war several men high in the nude and humiliated them while saying "cheese"?
              far worse shit happens and you never hear about it why!
              because it was a propaganda campaign

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's not an apt comparison, unless you've got evidence the US was actively sabotaging the Afghan government forces as part of some sort of military experiment.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't like the drug/CIA part honestly, it ruined the whole thing. I just wanted it to be a nightmarish mindfrick ride with no explanations. You know, that type of a movie that makes midwits go
    >waah this is pretentious, Lynch- I mean Lyne is a hack!! You think you are smart but you aren't waah stop enjoying this!!
    That being said, it's still one of the absolute greatest films I've ever watched. Still trying to find something similar

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Manchurian Candidate remake. Don't read anything about it. It's insane and black pilled. Demme was rumored killed over it, like Kubrick with EWS

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Manchurian Candidate remake
        commie remake of the Manchurian candidate

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I didn't like the drug/CIA part honestly, it ruined the whole thing.
      A lot of people dislike that and I can understand that.
      But I thought it benefited the film and the concept of real vs not real. Gave it a political twist.

      But unfortunately it's sort of overpowering now after covid. This movie is pure terror now in the modern context. The politics around you takes on this malevolent demonic undertone in a much broader headed sense.
      And honestly that is much of the gist of things like Silent Hill, this idea of the town itself being the thing that evil.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        it the Manchurian Candidate sprinkled with the Marathon Man for drug addled boomers

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is it as visceral as Jacob's Ladder?
          Also check out the cut scenes. The focus is definitely more on demons than the politics. It was butchered because 1990 audiences weren't ready for it. Nowadays that shits dope as frick and needs to be added and rereleased. You could say the politics is controversial but it's so fricking obvious to most people nowadays post-covid.

          I've seen so many people stop their drug addictions nowadays thanks to them asking serious questions about the state of the pharma industry and any state influence there.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm one of those people who don't really care about politics in film. Well, except for really interesting stuff like Foreign Correspondent, it's political but doesn't try to convey any messages. I'm just into surreal stuff. And by that I mean pure surrealism without any metaphors and allegories and all that jazz. Also the reason why I like SH1 way more than the second game. Love both though.
        Seriously though I believe that people who don't understand probably never will, even after they watch various 'eye-opening' films. Politics is such a lowly and disgusting fricking thing in general. Art would be better off without imitating real life politics

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    meh, I like the remake better
    it has sovl

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >meh, I like the remake better
      >it has sovl
      0/10

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        doing a remake of Jacobs ladder with a nigs must be one of the strangest choices of this woke age

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just don't understand what they were thinking when the original still has amazing imagery and effects.
          I think they just wanted to cash in on new found enthusiasm for the film post Silent Hill.

          But honestly I still think the covert war side of this is ignored too much and the statements on what the system is capable on individuals is not praised enough. People just focus on the line between real and not real stuff in a more esoteric sense.
          There's a very literal sense of that in the film which is deeply political too.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >smelly brownoid version
      >sovl
      terrible bait

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What inspired this movie? It's still a giga outlier per the tone, style, and glownig MIC PTSD chemwar intrigue. Had to be more than Nam. Did the director read Programmed to Kill?
    The only comparison is the Manchurian Candidate remake arguably it's even better. Insane that got greenlit, with the Hillary character

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Government would never do that.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh never.
      Is what people said until the CIA admitted it recently. I think they themselves, being a newer generation of agents, probably had had enough of this lie though.

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