James Bond: The Living Daylights (1987)

I thought the weirdest thing about seeing this movie now was seeing it show the Russians as Britain's competent rivals when they were such a mess that the U.S.S.R. collapsed 3 years later, but I totally forgot abut Afghanistan, the only thing I remember from seeing this film when i was little was Bond and the Bond girl and the cello in the snow. I totally forgot that the Bond ally in this flick was the Mujahideen, the Afghanistan resistance to the Soviets that will later become the oppressive Taliban. It makes me how much of this movie was completely off-based about how the Mujahideen would have reacted to a blonde like Kara Milovy, or if there were resistance members who just wanted to get the Russians out of Afghanistan and the religious nutjobs took over later.

Timothy Dalton was my favourite Bond, the most classically Britishy one (Sean Connery was Scottish and wouldn't even be knighted), I really like how Cinemaphile he was in the opening scenes -- Roger Moore just couldn't do that.

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Best Bond.
    Best Bond girl.
    Best Bond theme song.
    Best Bond film PERIOD.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I looked up this film because I was on an A-ha listening binge, tis a shame how the opening sequence have gotten crappier over time -- I can't believe they actually chose Adele over Muse!

      The action sequences back then was so good, the setting and costume, I wonder if thee is a huge amount of corruption in modern Hollywood where the money that was supposed to go to set and costume got siphoned off instead. Sure the jeep thing was probably super improbable, but it looked cool.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        From the 6th studio album "2nd Law", Muse's 'Supremacy': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avM_UsVo0IA

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm pretty sure they also rejected Radiohead. I know they did a song for Spectre but it got rejected for some other shit, is that right?

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just don't know why they picked Adele, I hate her piggy face and moaning wails.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes and the Radiohead song they rejected is incredible. Would have been the most beautiful Bond song in history. They rejected it for being too "melancholic" but what the frick do you expect when you ask Radiohead to write a song for you? The only thing that matters is that the movie sucked and they released the song anyways, so all is good.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a good thing they rejected the Radiohead and Muse songs when you think about it because it fits with the movies being slop.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              I think A View to Kill is a stupid movie, but I always enjoy the opening with Duran Duran.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think the first half is a bit boring but really picks up in the second half

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                There are too many Bond girls, too many characters, too many things going on.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's Goldfinger but backwards, and obviously way more insane. I liked it

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, the May Day death scene and Zorin's death scene are worth all the horse shenanigans at the beginning. I find there's something to be liked in every single Moore movie, people hate him too much.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hate would imply he was capable of invoking a strong emotion in me, but nope. I hate Hannibal because damn the story and Mads's acting pulled it off, but Roger Moore's Bond is just, lame, it's so lame one of his Bond films is on tubi.com right now, the good mainstream stuff never ends up on that site.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                craigbabby detected

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Moonraker is my least favorite Roger Moore Bond film, and even with that one, I love the main villain, the Ken Adams set design is the best work he's ever done, the music is top notch, and the zero gravity sex ending puts a smile on my face. Something to be loved about all of Moore's films

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Roger Moore's James Bond is like the 60s Batman tv show I guess.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                ...but my god, Roger Moore was just so OOOOOLLLLD in the last movies. Someone post that gif of Robert DeNiro kicking someone in The Irishman.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think that while he does start to look a bit too old beginning with Moonraker honestly, he just barely pulls it off until A View to a Kill where he just looks horrible. His face is weird, his clothes are old man clothes, his hair looks like shit, and stunt doubles more obvious than ever, all that said I still like the film and his performance. I just can't dislike the guy, Moore is too good. Also in his defense he wanted to quit after For Your Eyes Only but they kept offering him ungodly amounts of money and he couldn't say no

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually it was after Moonraker which would have been the smart thing but Cubby grew too complacent with the money he was making and thinking people wouldn't accept a new Bond. It always bugs me that they didn't adhere to a formula of having a new Bond every decade. 60's was Connery, 70's was Moore, 80's should have been Dalton alone, 90's Brosnan and 00's Graig (or preferably Clive Owen) with 2010's being given to Henry Cavill. But Cubby and Barbara are just stupid. They should just hand it over to Bezos at this point. No difference. It's still woke and ruined.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dalton's two films were brill, but I think the impact of Saunder's death and what as done to Felix would have been greater if Dalton had already been a Bond for a decade with those same characters.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the girl on the boat at the beginning too, and the two girls that was with Felix, I miss when they cast beautiful unknowns instead of the big name actress.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Holy based. Nothing comes close after watching it. Pure SOVL. Brosnan was boring, Graig was an abomination.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I read Daniel Craig's Bond as younger Sean Connery, it's very physical and thuggish. Timothy Dalton had an officer and a gentleman feel to him, and he's Cinemaphile but what made him special was his instincts for people, and his sentimentality and some sense of fairplay (not wanting to shoot a non-professional) is a weakness and a strength -- because it wins people over to his side.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Spot on, anon. Myself, I don't care for any of the other Bonds. They are just their respective actors not actually acting and being themselves. Connery was legendary but not James Bond, Lazenby of course not, Moore was whatever. Dalton was the best. He nailed the cold, cruel side of Bond (Fleming's favourite descriptor of Bond) but also nailed the gentleman spy with a heroic heart. God, he was so perfect. Once you TRULY watch Dalton's movies, the other are complete garbage in comparison. The only actor who looked and played the true James Bond. It's a shame Fleming didn't live long enough to see his portrayal. Would have been positively stunned.

          Once again this board overrates Goldeneye and License to Kill
          Goldeneye is mediocre at best
          License is genuinely bad

          >License is genuinely bad
          I've seen all kinds of moronic opinions but this takes the cake.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            When the girl was arguing that they couldn't leave behind her cello, all I could think about was that Sean Connery's Bond would have slapped her -- and he wouldn't have been able to win her over. At the same time Dalton was still ruthless, he ripped off the mistress's shirt to distract the guard coming in, and Pushkin understood that if he said the wrong thing that Bond would kill him. I never warmed to the Bonds after Dalton, but it was just a different era by then, post collapse of USSR, and as time got on with got less and less individualist ubermensch macguyer type. Spying a bunch of disposable people bribed these days, with an official handler that doesn't do the ground work that Bond does.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Judi Dench M was right, as far as Bond was concerned - the end of the Cold War was the end of James Bond.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            I was 12 when Daylights came out and I thought Dalton was awesome! I was sick of Moore by that point and my Dad couldn't stand Moore. He thought Dalton was a huge improvement but he was a "no one is Bond but Connery" boomer. I was hyped because it felt like Dalton was gonna be MY Bond but he only got two fricking movies.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, pretty much. The action sequence at the end with them hanging on the mesh out of the back of the plane was sick.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot to mention the 80's Aston V8

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      all of the bond girls suck.
      James bond is an ostensibly mediocre franchise, and the only entertaining movies are the sean connery ones just for how stupid they are.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're a homosexual. The Bond girl in Living Daylights is shockingly beautiful.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          This. She has this cute deredere attitude and is wifeable. Most of the Bond girls before are cum socks. She's actually a girl you can fall in love with.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Timothy Dalton and Maryam d'Abo's chemistry was great, a much better love story than On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Go fricking back. Shit bait.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >James bond is an ostensibly mediocre franchise
        >ostensibly
        Do yourself a favor and look that word up before you use it in public. The word's meaning does not fit with the sentiment you are trying to convey.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          He said that the most legendary media franchise in history is mediocre. Using ostensibly wrong is the least of his moronation.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Everything in these posts is 100% accurate. Only high class gentlemen with refined taste agree on this.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand why people like Kara, she's a boring Bond girl who does nothing but act like a moron and doesn't even dress in sexy outfits.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kara is a young girl who grew up in the soviet age -- she's a pure waifu.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          She was fricking some slimy corrupt middle aged general involved in illegal arms dealing
          He probably dumped more loads into her butthole than you can imagine too. She's not pure at all, she just dresses like a prude, because she's a pretentious musician

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was never canon that they had sex or even that she's his girlfriend, he's her sponsor, he was probably grooming her, but she wouldn't put out, so he set her up to be killed by Bond? That general might also be gay.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              She literally betrays Bond for him, and they get all romantic with each other while Bond is passing out. It's fricking gross. They've definitely fricked

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    All Bond films ranked with the exception of Casino Royale (1967)
    1. Thunderball
    2. Goldfinger
    3. Goldeneye
    4. Dr. No
    5. The Man With The Golden Gun
    6. License To Kill
    7. Moonraker
    8. Live And Let Die
    9. The Living Daylights
    10. You Only Live Twice
    11. A View To Kill
    12. From Russia With Love
    13. Tomorrow Never Dies
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
    15. Octopussy
    16. The Spy Who Loved Me
    17. Casino Royale
    18. For Your Eyes Only
    19. The World Is Not Enough
    20. Die Another Day
    21. OHMSS
    22. Never Say Never Again
    23. Skyfall
    24. Spectre
    25. Quantom Of Solace
    26. No Time To Die
    1.Dalton
    2.Brosnan
    3.Connery
    4.Moore
    5.Lazenby
    6.Craig

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thunderball is awful, everything underwater is slow and tedious to watch.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Once again this board overrates Goldeneye and License to Kill
      Goldeneye is mediocre at best
      License is genuinely bad

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody overrates Goldeneye because of the game.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I suspect that's the case
          The movie is mid as frick but the game was easily the best first person shooter of it's generation

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        has everybody gone
        Yep it kino time

        This guy was in Die Hard and Mission Impossible 1&4. Hell of a henchman.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Live and Let Die is way more fun than the Man with the Golden Gun.
      It just benefits from Christopher Lee, everything else is kind of mid about it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, Live and Let Die is the less fun one. I mean, the repetitive 20 minute boat chase with no music at all? It's like nyquil. Give me the slide whistle over that shit any day

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need to watch License to Kill

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >they were such a mess that the U.S.S.R. collapsed 3 years later
    4 years, actually. And really, nobody saw that coming until everything started to hit the fan with the Eastern Bloc fan in '89. Even the failed coup that finally brought the whole thing down in '91 came as a surprise to most of us in the West (yes, I'm old enough to remember).

    And the same really goes for the Afghan Mujahideen. How they are portrayed in the movie reflects how they were generally portrayed in Western media (both news and entertainment) at the time.

    > or if there were resistance members who just wanted to get the Russians out of Afghanistan and the religious nutjobs took over later.
    There was an element of that. The elements which became the Taliban represented only one of several factions within the Mujahideen, albeit the one which was ultimately victorious in the civil wars which followed the Russian's exit. Also, keep in mind that even Osama bin Laden only turned strongly against the U.S. after the Gulf War, upset at non-Muslim forces being stationed on "holy" Arab soil, and believing that a Saudi-led Islamic coalition should have been sufficient to oust the Iraqis from Kuwait.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I remember it as 1989 due to the Berlin Wall.

      History is such a mess. I heard the Taliban were bandit farmers type, but the main character here is western educated, and so were some 9/11 terrorists -- so they weren't peasants, they weren't the average Afghani.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        There were a lot of non-Afghan volunteers from elsewhere in the Islamic world in the Mujahideen.

        >the main character here is western educated, and so were some 9/11 terrorists
        Bin Laden himself attended at least one course at Oxford.

        >I also have a feeling that Pakistan used to be a more modern country.
        It really depends on which part of Pakistan you're talking about.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think islamic extremism are worse now in Iran, Pakistan, and Indoneisa, the way it wasn't decades ago. Expat community tend to keep the characteristic of the country they left from, decades ago, like Qubec, Canada, speaks an older style of French -- expat communities from Pakistan and Iran who have been here for decades tend to be more liberal, don't even wear the hijab, less religious -- though that trend can be the other way around, as New World America was religious enough to have the Salem's Witch Trials when Europe was past that.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    ...and much like how most Russians in Bond films aren't played by Russians, the Afghani character of Kamran Shah is played by Pakistani born British actor
    Art Malik

    https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/Kamran_Shah

    I also have a feeling that Pakistan used to be a more modern country.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Their Ferris Wheel is so fancy, it has an entire cabin and you can turn the lights on or off...

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did you guys know that Roald Dahl, author of children's books like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory as well as Matilda, he was a fighter pilot and a spy who had to sleep with a bunch of high society women, reportedly he once complained: "I am all fricked out. That goddamn woman has absolutely screwed me from one end of the room to the other for three goddam nights." ...and the woman he complained about wasn't fat or ugly.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Truly a harrowing war experience.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I give you best duck

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      so i guess when he wrote You Only Live Twice he was writing from experience

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't suck my wiener... don't suck my wiener... Nooooo

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well imagine a girl sucking your wiener almost none-stop -- for 3 days straight. What started out as fun would turn unbearable, like being forcefed ice cream till your tummy ache, except your most sensitive bits would be chafing. I think when it comes to non-stop sex marathon the guy will get hurt more as the vegana produce a lot of lubrication and can stretch, whereas the dick is not suppose to stretch, and the foreskin being yanked around in and out would also hurt? So don't mock brave and selfless Roald Dahl for his immense sacrifice and service! Where have all the patriots gone?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did anyone ever find out who she was?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I remember reading about the Dahl thing in a cracked.com article, there was a black and white photo of the woman and she looked normal, not smoking hot, but not unattractive.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not objectively the best, but definitely my favorite. It's the blueprint for everything I want out of a Bond movie.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If this isn't the peak and the best then what is? Don't you say Casino Royale or Goldeneye...

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say Casino is objectively the best film in the franchise, but Craig is playing a weird, alternate universe version of Bond – a character that I like and that he plays well but I can't accept as the Bond we know and love.

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yep. See also: Rambo 3 although be warned it's not as kino as Living Daylights

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>We have nothing to declare.
    this cello

    ...
    cello

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      SOVL

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        has everybody gone
        Yep it kino time

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Where is the usual man
          >Heh..flu.
          The best Bond henchman of all time. He broke into the MI6 base and BTFOed everyone with ease. Meme characters like Oddjob or Jaws don't compare.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Even has his own theme song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgEXa6lqJDQ
            sung by Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazon is paying shills to make Bond threads.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why would they? It's not like there's a Bond film coming out.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is that Cinemaphile talking about the biggest and longest movie franchise of all time that's a cinematic monolith? Nooooo make more political agitation, troony or capeshit posts.

      Frick off. People like you are why this board is dead. Bond threads have consistently been a haven for actual discussion.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      We know, but we don't care because the threads end up better than the usual shit

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Eh, I made this thread because I'm watching The Living Daylights after listening to A-ha, I actually like their non-western hits better, "Foot of the Mountain", "Lifelines"...and "Holygrounds", but "Living Daylights" is good to, along with The Sun Always Shines on TV.

        A-ha - Foot of the Mountain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m36SBHLmYXc
        -- beautiful looking music video with good use of light

        a-ha "Lifelines"

        -- featuring the snowy countryside of Norway?

        A-ha - "Holyground"

        I'm just on a Nordic / winter binge lately, been watching Mads Mikkelsen's Danish films like "Flickering Lights" too.

        Oh, I love how Dalton's Bond was actually drinking tea with Saunders.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love how filled in sets used to be, all the details from the opulent decor to the vast amount of expensive fresh food (especially since he's in the desert?).

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      It truly was a better time. The cinematography was heavenly. There was this shot of Bond and the Mujahedeen riding off and the colors are so vivid that you can almost taste them. Perfect film.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you seen the two films Brian De Palma did with Al Pacino, both Scarface (1983) and Carlito's Way (1993)? The first have really good use of colours and the second have good use of lighting -- and the way the camera moved to show off the set! By 1993 though, the sets were definitely not as opulent and unique as the ones in 1983. In Scarface there was Frank's Art Deco home, Tony's fake roman stuff, the Babylon Night Club, the motel full of retirees where the shootout took place, and best of all, Sosa's South American villa.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based. This is why I pretty much never watch films after 1989. They're all so soulless.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based. This is why I pretty much never watch films after 1989. They're all so soulless.

          I wonder what was the set to Sousa's villa though, if it's an actual place somebody is living at now. I was so disappointed to find that the the Overlook Hotel shown in The Shining didn't actually exist, they used the exterior shot of a real hotel but then the inside are different sets. The awesome Monroe Mall in Dawn of the Dead (1978) was real, but unfortunately all the awesome stuff about it, the skating ring, the clocktower, the indoor tropical gardens and fountains -- all gone.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            RIP, old sets and old shopping malls, life looked so much nicer back then.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There was this shot of Bond and the Mujahedeen riding off and the colors are so vivid that you can almost taste them.
        Is it this scene? I wonder where this was filmed as Afghanistan was still a part of the USSR back then, I wonder what the Russians think about the James Bond films back then -- since they were the villains but they were cool villains. I think monke definitely plays off the Bond villain thing.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I also love the detail of the Afghani women looting from the dead soviet soldiers, silent and faceless but active participants.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I wonder where this was filmed as Afghanistan was still a part of the USSR back then
          Morocco
          every american film set in the middle east is either shot in Jordan or Morocco

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cool, so if i wan to see those mountains I don't have to go to Taliban land, although there were these two swedish girls who got beheaded when they went to Morocco.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saunders death was very well done, unique but plausible, and passable as a 'terrible accident'...and Bond's reaction afterwards around cello girl probably gave her the hint that he's not Georgi's friend, or that something is wrong enough for her to call Whitaker. Emotionally it hits better than the guy who was eaten by a shark and then forgotten by the end of the movie, Bond at to kill Nercos no matter what in the end, but that he killed 004 and then Saunders right after he was starting to be friendly with 007 means Bond won't lose any sleep over dropping Nercos to his death while he begged for mercy.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I liked how they used Saunders and his death was impactful but felt like he would be a great recurring side character.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yah there are a lot of cute waifus in Dalton movies

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Indeed.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        always keeping an eye out for trouble

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being a millenial and growing up with austin powers, these roger moore movies fricking blow. I appreciate some if the zany shit and ideas but these movies are garbage. That being said I just rewatched casino royale and quantum of solace and I thought solace was much better than casino royale so my bond meter is fricked up.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Living Daylights is a Moore movie
      You must be a bot, no human could be this moronic.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        His only point of reference and first thing he brought up were the Graig movies. Says it all. I don't personally rate Moore but slating his movies dhe to some reddit parody flicks is moron.

        >>Don't worry, we gave her a nice... hoNEEEYYMoooon

        Great henchman. Loved how he flang his knife out. Dalton's movies had so many memorable characters.

        Timothy Dalton and Maryam d'Abo's chemistry was great, a much better love story than On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

        Easily. Electrifying chemistry. I know the rule about Bond girls but I could easily picture her in another Bond movie with Dalton.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          There is a theory that James Bond is actually a code name for different agents, I like to think those two got married after he retired.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a bullshit theory. They explicitly refer to Bond's dead wife in Licence to Kill and in at least one Moore film. It was the same character until they rest everything with Casino Royale.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Okay, but maybe the different actors just portray different versions of this character, because I can't see Dalton Bond doing or not doing the stuff the other Bonds did, be it the thuggish and non-British Sean Connery, or the clown Roger Moore.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sure. I think that's the consensus. As for Sean Connery, why do people keep saying that he wasn't British? He's Scottish, but so are almost one in ten Britons. It's not at all uncommon to hear Scottish accents in the British armed forces or in the British government. The try non-British Bond was Brosnan, who was born and raised in the Republic of Ireland.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                James Bond is a very God, Queen, and Country kind of character, and Connery refused a Knighthood, consistent of him, but he's not English as I think James Bond is supposed to be.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Connery refused a Knighthood
                Huh? He was knighted in 2000, according to a quick skim of Wikipedia.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, my info is out of date: //His views, however, did not always win him friends north of the border.

                While he received a knighthood from the Queen in 2000, he had previously been nominated for the honour twice.// https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1542505/sean-connery-first-great-train-robbery-knighthood-scottish-independence-spt

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                A proud Scotsman, he was.
                >Both nominations in 1997 and 1998 were reportedly vetoed by Donald Dewar, who was serving as Secretary of State for Scotland at the time.
                Tough pickle. It is indeed more offensive to turn down knighthood than to accept it as a Scottish nationalist, but he never refused it himself.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Both nominations in 1997 and 1998 were reportedly vetoed by Donald Dewar, who was serving as Secretary of State for Scotland at the time.
                According to the link, he himself never refused knighthood and was vetoed the award due to his support of the Scottish National Party.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea I think living daylights is a moore movie sure dumb Black person I'm talking about the moore movies

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>Don't worry, we gave her a nice... hoNEEEYYMoooon

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    //The Taliban was a radical student movement (the name comes from the Arabic "talib" which means "student") that took over Afghanistan, after the Soviets were kicked out and also after the Mujahideen began fighting amongst themselves for control of the country. In other words, the Taliban and the Mujahideen are in fact enemies. Kamran Shah in particular — being an Oxford-educated freedom fighter who casually teams up with a British spy and a Czech woman — would probably be marked for death as soon as they took power; if anything, the real Harsher in Hindsight aspect is that the character of Kamran Shah, if he didn't flee the country, was most likely murdered off-screen at some point after the movie, like what happened to Ahmad Shah Massoud in Real Life (who was killed a mere two days before 9/11).//

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/YMMV/TheLivingDaylights

    ...and Ahmad Shah Massoud was warning Europe about a coming terrorist attack in the months before 9/11. His home, Panjshir Valley, continued to fight the Taliban after the Afghani President ran like a b***h. So the heroes of this film is still the heroes.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Taliban had literally nothing to do with 9/11.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There was this shot of Bond and the Mujahedeen riding off and the colors are so vivid that you can almost taste them.
      Is it this scene? I wonder where this was filmed as Afghanistan was still a part of the USSR back then, I wonder what the Russians think about the James Bond films back then -- since they were the villains but they were cool villains. I think monke definitely plays off the Bond villain thing.

      Panjishir Valley looks beautiful:

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's because russia has been an anglo colony for hundreds of years, the monarchists and the rothschild family have conspired for the last 100 years alone to put puppet governments only to topple them down over and over, from the instrumental murder of the romanovs to the destruction of ussr with yeltsin as a cia asset with the rockefeller. It's no surprise that a british mi6 asset like Ian Fleming was either directly or indirectly involved in this type of propaganda and misinformation. The truth is russians never did anything without their anglosaxon overlord's permission, neither in afghanistan nor anywhere else for that matter, even today.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The eternal ~~*Anglo*~~

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The sequel have sharks and cats

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love the way this scene was shot, the way the ginger cat mewed and looked back at the agents as they walked up the stairs. It makes it feels like a real place.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get why James had to attack his boss or ex boss to avoid a Farewell To Arms, as they were in America, he could buy new ones at a Walmart parking lot.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          within minutes of the License to Kill Bond girl opening her mouth, I miss the one from Living Daylights terribly.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I want to go out to the garden centre and get a bunch of palms.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dalton Bond has the best looking Bond girls:

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Agreed. I really liked her. Ideal girlfriend. Love how she grew so jealous and tsundere with Lupe trying to provoke her and make her think James prefers her. The end of her and James kissing, for me, was the last time a Bond felt 'pure'. Anything else was postmodern garbage with no sincerity or romance.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                They started casting older big name actresses for Bond Girl and trying to make her co-pilot instead of support.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >best looking
              Yeah, she's certainly looking everywhere!

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get people who said Delia was raped before she was killed in A License to Kill, I think they just strangled her as there is a mark around her neck -- but her clothes aren't torn or stained or even disturbed.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        ...or they shot her in the chest? I guess it was a shadow around her neck, but she's fully dressed

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone read the original James Bond novels written by Ian Fleming? This is them ranked best-worst based off Goodreads average:
    On her Majesty's secret service
    From Russia With Love
    Goldfinger
    Thunderball
    Dr No
    Moonraker
    You Only Live Twice
    Casino Royale
    For Your Eyes Only
    Live & Let Die
    Diamonds Are Forever
    The Man With The Golden Gun
    Octopussy & The Living Daylights
    The Spy Who Loved Me

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think I did read a James Bond book once, but I can't even remember which one, might have been a different spy book. Damn I used to go through doorstoppers like Leon Uris's "Trinity", but I haven't really read a book in years, just flip through the ones I've already read. There is always so much distraction, tweets, reddit posts, news articles, youtube vids.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >tweets, reddit posts, news articles, youtube vids.
        Go back.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Read all of them. They are genuinely much better than the movies. My personal favorite is Moonraker and I am forever mad about the movie "adaption". The movie has nothing except the title in common with the book. The plot is not even similar. I really hope they make a proper Moonraker film some day.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I read Casino Royale and Dr. No, and I think Ian Fleming's prose is awful it's like reading a car manual. The character of Bond is interesting but I can't get past Fleming's writing style it's so dull

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    OOOOHH OH LIVING DAYLIGHTS

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      the morning and the headlights fade away
      thousand changes, everything's the same
      >>I've been waiting long for one of us to say
      >> "Save the darkness, let it never fade away"

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the Russians as Britain's competent rivals when they were such a mess that the U.S.S.R. collapsed 3 years later
    It was probably a bit of anxious wishful thinking on their part, given that people were convinced the Bond franchise wouldn't be relevant post USSR but fortunately GoldenEye proved them wrong (albeit by just... having Russians be the bad guys again lol)

    I think it would be interesting to have Bond return to fighting against a specific foreign rival again, however the next big war will probably be against China, and Bond can't just pass for Chinese the way he could for a white Russian so I'm not sure how that would work with undercover shit

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm Raj, Pajeet Raj
      God please no.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well ~~*they*~~ wanted a more diverse James Bond, might as well make it a comedy, Chris Rock as James Bond in China, every single movie he introduce himself as a different basketball player he completely doesn't look like, but it works!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        You haven't watched Casino Royale (1967) have you

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think I've seen either Casino Royale, though I've seen Quantum of Solace because I was stuck on a plane, it was either that or some romcom I can't remember.

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking LOVE James Bond. You gain another level of appreciation for the movies once you get older and have gone through hardships. The pure male fantasy of it all is so satisfying. I know that Graig killed all that because he's a homosexual but man the old ones were the best entertainment ever created.

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have a license to kill all my competitors... with my lower prices and better goods!

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thought this movie was Reddit but man oh man was Timothy good in this. I'd recommend watching Brenda Starr if you want some more Timothykino.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Huh, it looks like Dalton could have played Nick Fury too.

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Top 5 Bond Films
    1. Every Connery film tied for 1st
    2. The Spy Who Loved Me
    3. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    4. Goldeneye
    5. Casino Royale
    Honorable Mentions: The Living Daylights, Live and Let Die

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1. Every Connery film tied for 1st
      Sean Connery have the same demeanor not only in every single Bond film but also The Hunt For Red October.

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    RICHARD MAIBAUM:
    >In fact, early on there we were thinking the film would take place in China. One of the other shows, we had done something about a warlord in the Golden Triangle who was also mixed up in drugs and so forth. We thought it was all very colorful. Then we thought that we could incorporate that into a story that was basically in China. They also went there and looked for locations, and they spoke to the Chinese government. But they decided it was all too difficult and expensive, so we had to come up with the story that we did. As a matter of fact, we did two treatments set in China. We had a lot of good stuff in it, but you have to let it go when you decide for business reasons that a thing can’t be done or shouldn’t be done.

    ALBERT R. BROCCOLI
    >I talked to the Chinese delegation. They were my guests when I was in California, but that never worked out either, because of housing facilities for our crew, and we have to go with our own crews. You can’t do these things with local crews. It’s a bit of a problem, as I’ve gathered from other people that had been there. We’re traveling with about 150 to 200 people. And that’s why our costs are so high, but they’re people who know what they’re doing… the Bond family.
    CHARLES HELFENSTEIN
    >The early Daylights drafts revolved around a young James Bond, fresh out of the Royal Navy, directionless, getting into trouble, who then gets tapped to enter the secret service by M. He’s brash, making mistakes, getting into trouble. And finally he gets jailed, and his grandfather says you need to get your act together, and Bond visits him at their ancestral castle, which was sort of like Skyfall, three decades before that film, and the grandfather explains this great naval tradition the Bonds have had. They fought at Trafalgar and Jutland, and it’s up to Bond to continue that legacy. And he puts Bond in touch with someone that used to date his aunt, and it turns out to be M.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >M teams Bond up with an elder 007. Burton Trevor, described as a cross between Richard Burton and Trevor Howard, is a senior agent, and Bond is a junior agent, and they team up to fight a villain who is after the Manchu Hoard in China. The old 007 dies during the mission, and Bond assumes his number at the end. Some of the drafts even make the story a direct prequel to Dr. No.
      >While the story is interesting and there are some cool action sequences described, it didn’t really feel like “Bond” to me. Cubby Broccoli wasn’t really impressed either, and he vetoed the idea of a prequel with a young Bond. Broccoli felt that moviegoers pay to see a fully formed James Bond, a professional, not an amateur learning on the job. I also think the whole “One 007 passing the torch to the other” idea would have been challenging to market. Two 007s? That’s getting into Casino Royale 1967 territory. So while they flirted with a reboot in 1986, it would take two more decades before they would actually go forward with one.

      JOHN GLEN
      >When Timothy Dalton came along, we really had someone who had tremendous potential. Those possibilities really hadn’t been open to us before to do a harder type of film. The Living Daylights was a transitional film. When we started writing it, we just didn’t know who Bond was going to be. It had been decided Roger wasn’t going to do it anymore, but at the same time we weren’t sure who it was going to be. Pierce Brosnan was the most likely prospect at the time. We saw Pierce as being in the [Moore] tradition: not-too-heavy, slightly good-humored entertainment, so we didn’t really change our star dramatically on that film. It was written with Brosnan in mind. Dalton wasn’t cast till within six weeks of shooting. We had to do quite a bit of rewriting.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine if they had done Casino Royale with a younger Timothy Dalton at the beginning of the 80s...

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not a bondgay, but I thought I thought I knew all the series movie titles through cultural osmosis. I never heard of this one before or
    >1. Thunderball
    >7. Moonraker

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