James Cameron: "I don't want anybody whining about length when they sit & binge-watch TV for 8 hours"
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James Cameron: "I don't want anybody whining about length when they sit & binge-watch TV for 8 hours"
They're gonna let me pause in the middle of the film to jerk off in the theater, for real?
yeah. what a load of waffle. tv i can pause and go eat and drink and shit and stuff. i can't pause a 4 hour movie at a theater.
i hope no go girls get up to pee and ending up peeing right in the theater seat, god thats my fetish
No singles policy enforced.
Cameron will allow it.
In some parts of the world theaters have intermissions in the middle of films to let people be and buy more concessions. This needs to be normalized.
Oliver Stone's Alexander did it
Could you imagine giving Americans even more time during a movie to cram food and soda into their gaping maws?
Could you imagine a third world homosexual who let's America live rent free in their head?
there's a tiny cinema that was built in like the 40s near my house and they do this. There's only 2 screens and tickets are £5, you can also rent the entire screen for like £70
got a pic? sounds comfy
This
Also gas station attendants need to come back
gas station attendants make perfect sense in the idea of the service-based economy
The Godfather 2 had an intermission.
like right in the fricking movie
No it doesn't. Consider not drinking anything for 2 and a half hours
frick you Black person if you can wait 2 hours you can wait another 15 minutes
I absolutely hate the sensation of the lights turning back on and having to listen to people talk besides me. Feels like a betrayal
Intermissions we're a thing primarily because projectionists needed time to change film reels which isn't a thing anymore
this is normal in my country, this thread is full of zoomers that only consume streaming media
Usually Indians aren't brave enough to out themselves like this
Kek
Of course, it’s fricking 2022. They have to find new and creative ways to get people into the theaters.
That reminds me how at one time porn tapes were illegal in israelite york, so people would buy them from illegal sellers and or mafia associates, but also there were porn (more like erotica) theatres and people would go there too, but jerking off was illegal. Didn't stop some people, but police would do check ups.
Isn’t that how Paul Rueben got fricked over?
>anon is too young to ever been to a film with intermissions in the theater
Intermissions stopped being a thing 35 years ago I'm pretty sure.
Better be on streaming then instead of being a theatre exclusive. Those popcorn stadiums have the nerve to get mad if you pause the movie to take a piss or grab a snack.
>complaining about getting my money's worth
lol what?
unironically baste
Why do you like a man who clearly thinks so little of you?
reddit hates Avatar and Cameron, so he's automatically based, you fricking troon, kys
Imagine being that much of a contrarian homosexual.
>my values are based on other people's opinion
what a sad life to live
If hating Cameron is reddit, I dont' want to be Cinemaphile.
>I dont' want to be Cinemaphile.
Don't worry, you never were.
>reddit
>based
>troon
Read that back to yourself.
He thinks so little of you that his movies are beloved by hundreds of millions and has two movies that have been the highest grossing films of all time, one of them twice. moron, he cares more about you then some homosexual mcu producer making the most mind-numbing movies ever aimed at the dumbest third-world frick in the audience, he trusts you enough to not see you as a dumb frick.
paypig
>Why do you like a man who clearly thinks so little of you?
I know us fairly well, that shows good judgement on his part.
stfu israelite hes right, movies should be long as frick.
Because every time I watch his movies I start seeing things that I recognize.
because he doesnt think little of me. He thinks little of redditards and Netflix watchers.
Me and him are both pedos.
>I can only like people if they like me back
lmao cuck
There's a different between watching for 8 hours in a comfort of your home and in a fricking theater unless Cameron drops in Hulu or Disney Plus
Awesome. I'm going to have bladder damage and love it.
that's not a thing, and neither is kidney damage from holding it in for a few hours
after a few days your bladder explodes and kills you tho
What is an intermission?
This. If he expects us to get up during the middle of the movie, and miss whatever few minutes those are, then he either doesn't care about the viewer getting the full experience, or he knows the story is so thin it doesn't matter. Which one is it, James?
Americans can't be trusted with intermissions. People can't calm down in the theater as is, getting them out of the groove halfway through will only make it worse.
They would also need to have an attendant at the doors to keep people from trickling in for the next 20 minutes after intermission because they went to fricking McDonald's or some shit.
He either doesn't remember having young kids or never took them to see a movie in a theater where he couldn't tell the projectionist what to do. As an adult I can tell when it's ok to take a break, because that scene has to be in the middle of act 2 for pacing. Every good movie has the scene where Phoebe Cates tells how her dad got stuck in the chimney and died in a Santa Claus costume. But kids don't know when it's cool to take a bathroom break. They wait until the last minute and then they have to go right now.
That's not imagination, it's business acumen. The movie is cobbled together from old sci-fi cliches and it fails because the villain is a straw man caricature and because you knew the tree was going to be destroyed from the moment you first saw it. You can tell it was written in anger. The man actually hollers "shock and awe, kick ass" as they are flying off to destroy the magical tree. He didn't write like this when he was young. Compare this idiot villain to Burke in Aliens or Bill Paxton's character in True Lies, Coffey in The Abyss. The man had a sense of fairness and good humor and he didn't set up characters to be punching bags. Even the butthole in Titanic had a pathetic quality about him so that it was hard not to feel sorry for the guy. Avatar isn't a terrible movie all around, but it's a depressingly subpar James Cameron movie.
Why not bring back intermission?
>Avatar but GREEN
>makes bold claims with shitty analogies.
You can tell James Cameron is an avid meth user.
He's just a c**t
>He's just a c**t
Yes, but he is also right. Always. Do not bet against that serial-divorcing Canuck mother fricker.
>"The trolls will have it that nobody gives a s*** and they can't remember the characters' names or one damn thing that happened in the movie ... Then they see the movie again and go, 'Oh okay, excuse me, let me just shut the f*** up right now.' So I'm not worried about that."
absolutely based
I remember an embarrassingly tired pile of noble savage tropes.
Why didnt cameron show how Na'vi treated their prisoners, that is, dismembering them, flailing their face off, ripping off their genitals and letting them bleed out? Or how they raided human settlements and killed women and children indiscriminately.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What a delusional narcissist. You're films are shit James, you don't know how to write interesting characters kys
Imagine doubting Jim.
Titanic is objectively the best movie of all time, moron
Your*
Esl moron
>Then they see the movie again and go, 'Oh okay, excuse me, let me just shut the frick up right now.'
lol based. this is exactly what will happen.
He's talking about r*deditors.
I'm scared now. I am worried James got high on his hype. Like long runtime is not a problem, but I am getting mad Star Wars vibes here. I've been burned before by this shit, it just seems like such a "YOU ARE EVIL IF YOU DONT LIKE MY MOVIE" statement that usually gets made when the studio is aware that they need to do damage control. I hope I'm wrong and it's James Cameron trying to deliver kino against a studio that prefers to make a lukewarm avatar 2 nostalgia cash grab.
It's just an old man who's used to discipline getting mad at kids who are constantly distracted by their phones, don't worry about it.
Cameron basically controls the entire production of Avatar and the studio doesn't get a say due to some weird licensing arrangement
the four hour runtime is further evidence that Cameron is in control here
It's not really anything especially weird, one of he greatest living directors got final cut on a two-movie deal after making the literal most successful movie of all time
Yeah I hope that's the case and James didn't go off the rails. I hope there isn't any political bullshit shoehorned in it. Cameron is a professional so I think he'll put his craft first, but I hope he's keeping a cool head and realizes how badly all the forced troony political agitprop "movies" will age. Again I hope you're right.
>political bullshit
homie what, Avatar is already a heavily political work
avatar is shit
the monumental flop of this movie will destroy his legacy
Reminder he made Entourage change their story arc about Aquaman the movie, because he was insecure about a fictional movie of his flopping. He will break down if this fails.
He already ruined his legacy with the first one.
tell that to the studio that will get less money per day because there's less screenings
Translation
>The editors found a lot of dumb shit that they felt needed to be cut, and I got mad and said no
underrated
awfully optimistic of him to assume anyone besides the frogatard poster is gonna watch anyway
I'm gunna watch them
see
People are fricking tired of superheroes. It might actually have a chance. Hopefully it brings bank so we can start getting actual movies that are their own thing again. I’m so fricking tired of liberals in tights and shit ass Indian CG
>People are fricking tired of superheroes.
They're not, if Avatar 2 was up against an actual A-list superhero movie it would get clubbed.
I barely remember what the original was about
A crippled soldier is hired by a company to make a peace treaty over trees but falls in love with an alien instead and joins them to kill the humans?
So in this one the soldier betrays the aliens?
Cameron is a cuck liberal
TV is still episodic, you can go do other shit at the end of an episode.
This comparison makes no sense.
>miss part of the movie to go pee
God I hate boomers who think the movie theater is still relevant.
Zoomers fear the Jimjam
I know contrarians on this board are going to defend Cameron for being "based" or whatever but he's an actual fricking homosexual. Can he not not understand the difference between me bingeing a whole show on a Saturday in my underwear and going out to the theater and watching his dog shit film, that's long and excruciatingly painful to sit through. This movie is gonna make like a trillion dollars but don't be fooled, his entire audience are just sub IQ white trash and street shitters who desperately want to escape their hellish lives by watching some escapism. Cameron is pure pleb trash, from terminator to Titanic to Avatar, he's never made an actually interesting film.
>his entire audience are just sub IQ white trash and street shitters
This.
Hate Cameron all you want but Terminator is frickin great
True Lies is his best work.
>Americans need to grab something to eat every 2 hours
>Americans need to diarrhea every other hour
>Americans need to pause every other hour to scroll tiktok and twitter
>Americans need to pause every other hour to shoot someone
You actually can not make this shit up
Americans can make that shit up every >2 hours lmao
Intermission is an invention of the theatre, aka Europe
Dipshit
Literally just have a frickin 5 minute break 3 hours in. I can't imagine sitting down for 8 goddamn hours. Even when I play video games for 5 hours I stand up and walk around every 20-30 minutes because my legs get sore. People were complaining about Batman being 3 hours and James thing we're gonna watch for 8?
>In summary, im gonna pirate it in 4K HDR and watch it on my plex server.
enjoy your race mixing agitprop
They really aught to bring back intermissions
>people's love of film dropping
>people's attention spans dropping
>this moron releases a long sequel no one asked for
it's gonna flop
>quality of films dropping
>things worth paying attention to dropping
>10+ year passion project releases and ushers in a new era of kino
Have faith
>Jim MUST cater to the moron zoomer masses
Everyone with a sane mind will agree that Avatar was unimaginative it doesn't have to do with being a fricking zoomer and this coming from a 29 year old
get a load of this zoomer
>29 year old
>zoomer
You enjoy getting loads don't ya?
>unimaginative
This guy is the sole reason for every movie needing 3d glasses for the good part of 6 years. Frick off with your reddit-tier analysis
>Calling someone reddit while defending 3d movies
Go be a homosexual somewhere else, being technical innovator doesn't equates to being a auteur he's no different from a capeshit filmmaker
The 3D fad happens every few decades. He was just a stooge used to promote the rebirth of this lame gimmick.
Like Friday 13th Part 3?
Zoomie doesn't know about the never-ending death and resurrection of the 3D fad.
Jim creating an immersive alien 3d world is different from like, Jason or Freddy yelling boo and tossing something at the audience
>Jason or Freddy
3D is even older than this, homosexual.
>"this unimaginative movie was so immersive!"
wew lad. Do try to move the goalpost some more, though.
If he wants it to be a commercial success he does. Which he does, his entire career has been nothing but Spielberg-tier blockbuster shit catering to the lowest common denominator.
he really doesn't have to at this point, the appointed zoomer contrarian Cinemaphile populace will defend him regardless of what he says or does
>He doesn't know Top Gun Maverick
Ngmi
Here's how you get audiences to stay in their seats for 4+ hours: make every seat a toilet with bidet; have the armrest have buttons to select food which signals a drone to bring it directly to them
JIM IS BACK
CAPESHITTERS BTFO
films should be 4 hours with an intermission at the 2 hour mark.
I'm less likely to get shot at home on a binge watch
>Jim returns to crush zoomers and capeshit queers
SAVE US JIM
yeah that worked real well for Ridley Scott
running time wasn't the problem
No, forming a coherent storyline because he resisted editor's notes was his problem. Over time writer directors lose all sense of ability to keep an audience following and take for granted that you almost have to read their mind to keep up with the movie they are putting on screen. See Nolan for this shit, although he will at least make it to where if you watch the movie 3 more times you'll find some sped up dialogue that helps make sense of plot points here or there.
>pissing during my movie is part of my cinematic vision
Bravo Cameron
Yeah it’s called the Way of the Water, your brain is going to be flooded with subliminal pissing imagery
I've sat through a 3 1/2 hour movie without pissing (while drinking a soder) but a 4 hour movie with a bunch of water sloshing around will be my Greatest Pepsi Challenge.
even reddit hates this guy
I like him even more now
>Deciding your opinion based upon what reddit thinks
How embarrassing
t. ranny
>Avatar.2.The.Way.Of.The.Water.2022.720p.CAMRip.English.x264.1XBET
>Watching Cameronkino in 720p
Why do you even bother to draw breath?
James past his prime after Terminator 2, truth will set you free
I will watch it on my phone, half asleep.
on the biggest screen in moscow!
>Avatar.2.The.Way.Of.The.Water.2022.120p.CAMRip.English.x264.1XN8GGER
>Avatar.2.The.Way.Of.The.Water.2022.UHD.BluRay.REMUX.HDR10.HEVC.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-N1GG3R-xpost
He’s right but he’s also moronic. Intermissions were very popular. A few years back I saw Psycho and it had an intermission. Like, no shit “it’s ok to get up and pee.” Not really an innovative thought or paradigm shift.
Just because I’m already seething, I’d like to add onto this. I don’t know how long his new piece of shit movie will be, but not everyone has 4 hours to kill at a movie theater. It’s fun but I don’t want to be there for hours on end. If I’m at home, I can pause it whenever, no lines for snacks in the kitchen, it’s not a big deal. Frick this fricking moron.
>Cinemaphile homosexual who posts 8 hours a day pretends his time is precious and he'll STARVE if he goes 4 hours between feedings.
Typical Cinemaphilener, makes up a scenario in his head and gets mad at it. Yeah I do have places to be sometimes, but 4-5 hours at a theater is a hard sell. It’s not exactly an unpopular opinion either, so I don’t know what you’re all uppity about, but please continue to be a colossal homosexual, it’s working out great.
>now it's 5 hours
You're not very convincing, fatass.
Well before the movie starts there's an hour of watching commercials where black men race mix with white women.
So it adds up to 5 hours.
I barely go to the cinema anymore and when I do I always turn up late since they lie about the time the films start to get you to watch ads.
Theaters MIGHT buy into an intermission this time, given that barely 1 movie seems to make money in any given week, and it's not going to be Shazam! 2.
>my film's plot is so unimportant, I encourage you to leave the room and miss five minutes of it
Avatar is literally a theme park ride
Done right. Just like Jurassic Park.
I don't do that nor know anyone who does that, but watching something at home is different than watching something in theaters with a bunch of strangers.
If I didn't need to get up and go pee during Return of the King, I won't need to with this.
>mfw countdown anon hits 0
>Cinemaphile free of his autism now
>countdown anon starts the 1290 day countdown for Avatard 3
Our only hope is that Avatar 2 does so poorly 3 gets cancelled
Anon, they are making a sequel to Flopzam!.
And they are putting it out against Avatar 2.
Give up all hope of James not plugging away at it.
Good christ that's the best capeshit they had on hand to go up against Jim?
Apparently it's some sort of Suicide Squad.
And yes, that's about as good as WB can manage these days.
Don't make me post pictures of Shazam sipping his drink
It would be extra ironic since James isn't giving anyone a piss-break.
Avatar 2 has a clear run til mid-February when Ant-Man & Wasp 3 hits theaters. It may well be the #1 movie for a full 6 weeks.
Not or society collapses first
Disney own Avatar now so they deliberately didn't put anything Marvel or Star Wars against it
DC is dead in the water other than Batman anyway so they just had nothing to throw up other than third rate roadkill anyway
I bet you it makes more than the first film even up against Avatar. Christmas movies just coast along for all the way into March
we are about to enter a second global recession within 3 years, do you really think people will have money to spend on blue pocahontas but water?
It's literally the only movie in many years that I want to see in an actual theater. I'll probably see it a couple more times with friends. So yes.
you are on a Mongolian basket weaving site, talking about onions goop and Elizabeth Oslen's feet, your opinion and habits doesn't reflect the average citizen's.
cinema does well in recessions.
If you knew your history zoom zoom, you're know that movies and restraints do better during a recession because more people seek escapism
3 is already done, it's coming no matter what
This, it's like hoping Return of the King wouldn't be made. Shit is done and in the can.
>"I got more excited as I went along. Movie four is a corker. It's a mother****er. I actually hope I get to make it. But it depends on market forces. Three is in the can so it's coming out regardless. I really hope that we get to make four and five because it's one big story, ultimately."
Nothing can stop Avatar 3 and we should all hope for it's success
>betting against JC
some people never learn
That will be a glorious day indeed. The most based and robust yet.
>one ticket to see Avatar: Way of the Water, please!
>I'll have an extra large coffee, a gallon of coke, and gimme one of those six packs of bottled water
>head to bathroom
>stick head under tap and drink until my stomach aches
>get into screen before commercials are even rolling
>sit in back row, all the way at the end
>chug two bottles of water before anyone else even enters
>once people start filing in, keep drinking, saying 'Ahhhh!' and 'That's the stuff!' after each gulp
>as we get to the trailers, the screen is completely filled with Avatar fans dressed as Na'vi and getting excited
>not a single spare seat
>I start to slurp down my gallon of coke
>the movie title card appears and a hushed awe descends upon the audience
>I suck noisily through the straw at the last dregs
>bladder feels like an inflated balloon
>in physical pain due to volume of liquid inside me
>first scene of movie starts
>quiet scene set in the past with a Na'vi mother in a hut, saying something in a whisper to her frightened daughter
>stand up
>'Excuse me. I have to go peepee right now.'
>start walking sideways with my arms flapping around
>every seat I pass repeat, 'Excuse me'
>get to aisle
>yell, 'I'm not gonna make it!'
>unzip
>piss
>chaos
>piss literally everywhere with jet force for two full minutes
>entire room is soaked
>entire audience has evacuated
>movie carries on rolling as if nothing has happened
>let out a sigh of relief
>zip back up
>turn to camera and say to no-one in particular, 'Now that's what I call the way of the water.'
wait so I can pause the movie and go smoke weed outside an hour in?
no one cares about avatard
>heres the big paradigm shift
what a pretentious nerd. I hate when smug morons use that phrase
Jim actually shifts paradigms tho. When you make the #1 grossing movie in history TWICE you get to be smug like that.
what paradigm shift happened after Titanic?
The idea that a billion dollar box office was some stupefying achievement in ticket sales, when James easily doubled that.
blockbusters coming out near the end of the year
immortal boomers are going to use boston dynamic to hunt down and harvest organs from millennials
As Gen-X I hope I can get in on that sweet action.
Also, a reminder that his last two movies DOUBLED the previous box office record.
>he stills think avatar 2 will be a flop
kek
i screencapped this, give me your email so I can laugh at you personally when this movie flops.
I've never binge-watched tv for more than 3 hours and I will NEVER watch a movie with an unreasonable run time. 3 hours is the maximum for real cinema that I will MAYBE tolerate once a year. 2 hours is the absolute limit for popcorn flicks like capeshit and Avatar. If it goes above that, I will never watch your movie, simple as.
How's your ADHD?
I don't have ADHD, but if you frequently sit on your ass for 3+ hours without moving, you will be developing health problems that are far worse than ADHD.
I do that every day and I'm perfectly fine
The way Cameron talks, Avatar autism threads, him shitting on everything combined with that one photo of Cameron on a yacht which was posted on Cinemaphile years ago with ZERO matches on the internet, he probably unironically posts here.
No I don't shut up
Pic of the yatch?
Who the frick does this appeal to? The first movie did so well because of its ridiculously detailed cgi and the revival of 3D movies. The first one was nothing more than average. How can someone actually say they’re a fan of Avatar?
You can cry all you want but Avatar 2 will still make billions
ok mr Cameron, now time for your nappy nappy
I'd be shocked if this movie makes more than 500 million. Even in a universe where Covid never happened and the cinema industry never took the huge permanent hit it did, I doubt Avatar 2 could have ever reached a billion. Avatar was entirely a product of its time and a spectacle. People went to experience the CGI and the 3D effects. It more an amusement park ride than a movie.
but how long do we need to wait until more neyney porn?
are the adhd types that complain if a movie is over 90 minutes long really the same people that will binge watch an entire season of a tv show in one evening?
i would've thought they were predominately different demographics and that the average normie movie watcher goes there for "the experience" almost more than the movie itself
And I don't want you whining when I torrent your dogshit film, boomer.
>People constantly getting up to piss during the movie, forcing everyone to move their legs and interrupt their immersion
Wow, thanks for such a groundbreaking cinematic experience James “Five Wives” Cameron
I KNOW THE MOVIE EXIST STOP MARKETING IT TO ME
bros how did cameron knew capeshit would finally die in the year of our lord 2022 and the time of blueBlack folkhit is nigh?
Yeah the first Avatar was too short and the second half was too rushed
ABATAP
CLEAN IT UP
OH WAIT PUTIN FRICKING EXPLODED HIM LMAO
Is Cameron an autist? He does talk like a sperg.
hes canadian
I will watch any length of movie that has Neytiri in it
He's right, because cinemas are a dying medium.
Most people prefer to just watch on their TV where they have control. If people prefer to watch like that, there's no need to hold back on runtime.
>casts 72 year old Sigourney Weaver to play a 14 year old girl
Has Jim, dare I say, lost it?
Nah, Jim's just taking care of his own and Siggy deserves to feel young again. I fully expect Jim to clone her back to life after she passes for real.
Surprised he hasn't cast Michael Biehn as like an alien dog or something
BRING BACK THE INTERMISSION!
anyone else get the feeling Cameron has been seething hard about people calling avatar derivative "pocahontas in space" and now he tries to make up for with space battles and characters being brought back from the dead?
Who cares if it is Pocahontas in space? I'd much rather he kept the story simple and classic rather than trying some convoluted shit.
If he cared he'd just correctly point out that Avatar predates Pocahontas
holy shit that looks moronic
I can pause a TV show you moronic homosexual. God, Cameron is such a hack.
>Jim returns to save cinema from the woke, broken shit sandwich the MCU has become
B A S E D
A
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let's not pretend Avatar isn't woke nonsense
>when they sit & binge-watch TV for 8 hours
speak for youself jim.
kinoplexes need to introduce a policy where if you walk out to go pee you're not allowed back into the screening
Phone-addicted morons and homosexuals with tiny bladders are not worthy of Cameronkino
so people start peeing in bottles ?
can you really not go four hours without pissing? do you have diabetes?
Just think of the shit they do to their bodies over there
cute boy
Overly harsh, sometimes a person just needs to go and missing part of the movie is their punishment
However people who do it in the first ten minutes absolutely deserve the lockout or perhaps summary execution. The movie just started motherfricker, you had plenty of time to settle your business in advance!
>americans can't go 4 hours without eating corn syrup-laden goyslop, or drinking carbonated syrup
the "I have to pee" thing is just an excuse because they're ashamed to admit it. Remember when speaking to a mutt on the internet there's a 50% chance that they're basically a crack addict and are so wired on high blood sugar that they can't think straight.
Most americans reading this post are either eating or drinking calories right this second. They tell themselves that this is okay and there's nothing wrong with it, even though if they went 24 hours without food they'd slip into a diabetic coma from the sheer bodily shock of not having mountains of glucose in their body.
it's ok because those calories are empty
It's over for capeshit-loving ESLs. Mass suicide of Mexicans, Brazilians and Indians soon.
But you can pause when you're watching a streaming service. Is it going to include an intermission or is it skipping theaters ang going straight to video? If not then he's admitting the plot is so shit that it doesn't matter if you miss 5 minutes.
No one talks about Kill Bill like it's two movies. Everyone accepts that it's a single work. I don't see why there's a problem with this. Release them together and show them back to back for people who want an uninterrupted experience.
Movie theaters are important. No one wants to make direct-to-video movies, and that's what a movie like The Irishman, Don't Look Up, etc. are at the end of the day. The money may be good but there's no escaping the fact that if your movie isn't in a theater, you made a TV movie.
What if I need to lay a cable, that can take half an hour and I have to undress.
I can do things alone at home while watching a show that I can't do at a movie theater, talking, playing games at the same time, for some I'm sure looking up reactions to parts after they've seen them. I feel like for someone to watch a 4 hour movie they gotta be really invested before they go and see it
>for some I'm sure looking up reactions to parts after they've seen them
I hope none of you guys actually do this.
Mean there's threads when episodes drop aren't they? Or like when a season ends?
Yeah but surely no one's actually looking for them as they're watching the movie/episode, right?
He's not wrong. People will scoff at a movie with a 3 hour runtime then watch The Office re-runs all day.
They watch 1 hour episodes with breaks, shit take
Epics should be Epics in the classical definition. Not when you saw a random movie and say its hella epic. It must be wide in scope, drama, bombast, and has all the bells and whistles of a high budgeted production with the best cast avallable for the job. TDK Trilogy, MCU Infinity Saga are not epics. They are just a series of related movies.
I don't think there's any justification for not calling Infinity War epic, because it most certainly is. It's just not good.
The stakes are high but the way they went about it is lame as frick.
So we are in agreement.
not going to watch it not my problem , sick and tired of CGI marvel dc capeshit reboots series remakes RE-REMAKES of remakes and other israeli tricks that soibots fall for.
Since ZSJL released and was a huge hit with its 4h run time, directors are bolder in chasing longer run times. I don't mind blockbusters being 3-4 hours so long as there is enough story for that duration.
Its pretty common during Easter on most tv channels running 3-4 hour epics.
>Since ZSJL released and was a huge hit with its 4h run time
It was.
Don't you have a street that needs shitting in or something?
>"My movie contains so much unnecessary filler I really don't care if people walk out during it"
James. I can call you James, right?
James... why do you disrespect your own work like that?
>Kino is the same as Tv
Brainlet Cameron
The Apes trilogy is basically this but it is not an epic.
They should also must have iconic shot, line, dialogue, exchange, and a score to die for
>Reeeeeee why is he not making capeshit and adhering to capeshit rules and catering the movie to capeshit audience
Literally every person seething about avatar ITT
Get a grip you losers, this is a movie the entire family will want to watch and no amount of capeshit or star wars remakes will ever change that fact
L8a losers
To be fair we're looking a 500 million dollar box office at most. Avatar fatigue is at an all-time high and nobody knows who Avatar 2 is.
>Avatar fatigue is at an all-time high
what.
It's adapted from a post that used to get made for all new Marvel movies.
>To be fair I think we're looking at Marvel's first flop. Capeshit fatigue is at an all-time high and nobody knows who x is
>To be fair we're looking a 500 million dollar box office at most
If you unironically believe this then you're extremely delusional. It's making 3 billion.
>4 hour movie
>family friendly
At least try to aim your insults. Only obsessive types are gonna show up, i.e the type you're making fun of.
>thinks family's care about runtime
they'll just get up and leave midway and buy tickets again to continue watching the 2nd half over the weekend
I just don't see how anything will stop Cameron from making another billion or two
>I just don't see how anything will stop Cameron from making another billion or two
Oh it's not gonna flop. I'm not going to claim that in a million years.
>thinks family's care about runtime
Yes. Yes they do.
>Avatar: The Way of Water
>It's okay to get up and go pee
it's like poetry, it rhimes
So will it be 4 hours long or something?
3.3 hours is the current proposed time
The people saying this will flop insisted top gun 2 would flop btw
proofs?
Really? Most people in these threads were Avatar fans saying Top Gun 2 would flop because only Avatar 2 could bring audiences back into theatres. Looks like their comments didn't age well.
Seems like you're trying to false flag to me.
people have been saying the next james cameron film will flop since the fricking original terminator. i dont know when those ding dongs will learn.
people want a spectacle.
people want something they havent seen before.
people want an enormous romantic vision of something fantastic.
i have all kinds of criticisms for camerons work but he at least makes going out to the movies worth it. even that goddamn titanic movie.
>people want a spectacle.
The original Avatar was a spectacle... Thirteen years ago.
>people want something they havent seen before.
This is a sequel. It's not going to be something new.
>people want an enormous romantic vision of something fantastic.
The first movie wasn't romantic. The blue furry alien ponytail brain sex scene was unintentionally hilarious because of how awkward and weird it was.
>i have all kinds of criticisms for camerons work but he at least makes going out to the movies worth it. even that goddamn titanic movie.
Titanic was successful because it was the perfect date movie. It had romantic shit at the beginning for girls, and then the second half had action for the guys.
>The original terminator was a spectacle... seven years ago.
>This is a sequel. It's not going to be something new.
terminator 2 is more celebrated than the original
>The first movie wasn't romantic. The blue furry alien ponytail brain sex scene was unintentionally hilarious because of how awkward and weird it was.
no romantic as in romantic comedy, or romance novel. romantic as in romanticism. the artistic movement. something which highlights the best and/or more intense aspects of life. something which idealizes man, the world, the divine. something that reaches beyond the mundane, beyond the ordinary, the commonplace.
romanticism, not a romance.
>terminator 2 is more celebrated than the original
Yes and it's also an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie that's just over two hours long. It's not a four-hour movie about blue furries.
>something which highlights the best and/or more intense aspects of life. something which idealizes man, the world, the divine.
Avatar is none of that.
People like you resisted T2 just like you're doing to A2 right now. Saying oh, T2 is just an excuse to have Arnold's muscles on screen and nobody would care about a roided homosexual
See you in 5 years when you're using A2 as reference to something a movie that's coming out isn't.
>People like you resisted T2 just like you're doing to A2 right now. Saying oh, T2 is just an excuse to have Arnold's muscles on screen and nobody would care about a roided homosexual
Major cope considering Arnold had been super popular for years at that point. People liked it because it was an action movie about Arnold shooting people with big guns, not because it had James Cameron's name attached to it.
>romantic as in romanticism. the artistic movement. something which highlights the best and/or more intense aspects of life. something which idealizes man, the world, the divine. something that reaches beyond the mundane, beyond the ordinary, the commonplace.
It's even less that, be real. It's literally a story about a guy betraying his brothers because of a woman. It doesn't get more base than that.
yea I'm not a fan of avatar but cameron doesn't do assembly line shit like most everything else, especially capeshit
it stands to reason he prepared something at least worth a watch if he decided it was worth making in the first place
add to it the totality of the circumstances he's in i.e. his unprecedented and massive double whammy of titanic and avatar successes, the 13 years that passed since, it's been 25 years since cameron made non-blueBlack person movie.. the capeshit monopolizing cinemas etc
he has quite a lot loose, this is a rather unique situation
honestly he has balls to even make another movie, let alone being so wienery about it, he knew he needs some hooks for the audience beyond the simple production quality
so if he decided to release another one, 2 in fact, with another 2 on the burner, well I would bet against a skeptical anon talking about flops out of hiss ass' gut feeling
so put in a fricking intermission. they used to do this for their epics.
>thinking a 3 1/2 - 4 hour sequel to a movie that people were lukewarm to begin with will be as successful as the predecessor.
Audiences always struggle with long movies, even movie theater chains don't like it because there are less showings per day.
>bu...muh zack snyder justice league success
Not the same, a lot of people paused the movie after a chapter ended and even came back days after because that's how bad the attention span is right now
>but muh infinity war/endgame did the same
You would have to be really deluded to think people care about avatar the same way they did with capeshit at its peak of popularity.
genuinely you are the deluded one. who the frick gave a shit about top gun in 2022? if you make a big spectacle film, people will go see it. avatar was an absolute phenomena all over the world when it came out and that’s what people want to experience. they don’t care about the story, they care about the visuals and immersion. anyone saying this will flop clearly has no business speaking about the box office and has zero clue what they are talking about
The movie will not flop, just underperform
>top gun 2
Not a 4 hour movie, easy to sit through because cruise knows what people want to watch and gets to the point
>avatar was an absolute phenomena all over the world when it came out and that’s what people want to experience
The only thing it had was the cgi, from the very beginning people criticized how weak the movie was without it, hence the endless pocahontas comparison and we're not in that world anymore, tons of movies have come out overstimulating audiences so it's not special anymore.
>cope
>cope
>cope
Hmmm
>avatar was an absolute phenomena all over the world when it came out
>when it came out
Ex-fricking-actly. Go check the visitor numbers of Disney's Avatarland to see just how little of a shit people gave.
the avatar land is just a part of animal kingdom so there are no visitor numbers for it specifically
>that people were lukewarm to begin with
It literally made 10x its opening weekend. It had better legs than any blockbuster in the last 3 decades outside of Titanic. You have to have overwhelmingly positive word of mouth for that to happen. The notion that people were lukewarm on Avatar is absolutely ludicrous.
He may be a prick but he’s also not wrong here.
Has this hack considered including an intermission? He's acknowledging the writing and plot of his furgay movie is so inconsequential that you can just get up and leave for five minutes at any point and not miss anything important. Long movies are ok, but we all know that this shit is not going to earn the runtime if it's as trite as the first movie from 2009.
Keep in mind that only a third of viewers actually finished streaming the Sneeder cut, and most of the people who watched it were minorities. They are the target audience for these theme park movies.
https://screenrant.com/justice-league-snyder-cut-turn-off-scenes-when/
https://deadline.com/2021/03/justice-league-snyder-cut-wonder-woman-1984-hbo-max-viewership-1234720662/
>Keep in mind that only a third of viewers actually finished streaming the Sneeder cut,
Why is that relevant? They took years to even acknowledge it existed and by the time it actually came out nobody gave a shit. Your post would've been infinitely better and more credible without throwing in references to an event that only barely has anything to do with this.
>Why is that relevant?
It's relevant because it proves that normalgays don't want to sit through a four-hour movie even if they have control of when to pause it. These sorts of long movies were popular in the 40's and 50's when there was nothing else for people to watch, and they included intermissions. Are you going to try to tell me that this blue furgay shit is going to be at the same level as something like Gone with the Wind, Ben-Hur, or Lawrence of Arabia? There's nothing in Avatar about the human condition. It's elevated capeshit. And yes I saw it twice in 2009. People only cared about it because it was such a CGI spectacle. Even back then people were joking about how bad the plot and characters were.
I dont bing watch anything though.
In fact most of the time I can barely sit through an entire episode of a series without getting bored and doing something else for some time
>It's okay to get up and go pee
At home maybe because you can pause. You'll lose a few minutes in the cinema. Why not put intermissions back into films if you intend to have such long runtimes? Or maybe just don't whine when no one goes to the cinema to watch it.
KINO INCOMING
movie without intermissions what??
Bring back intermissions
Also bring back overtures
Long movies used to have intermissions.
But that's not economically feasible.
Who do all movie tickets cost the same anyway? A 3h movie should cost more than a 1.5h movie
>cameron is "btfoing" capeshit by making movies that are 3 hours long, like 90% of capeshit recently
>my movies are so pointless you can miss ten minutes of them without losing track of anything
But I can pause the movie and go pee, James. If I need to pee in the theater I can't pause it.