1. The Big Lebowski
2. Donnie Darko
3. The Godfather Part II
4. Pulp Fiction
5. The Dark Knight
6. The Matrix
7. A Christmas Story
8. The Sixth Sense
9. Titanic
10. Citizen Kane
Do you agree with his choices?
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Yes.
>no Ferris Bueller
1, 3, 4, 7, 9 are correct.
Absolutely. It's not even a good movie.
Mike Matei's Top 10 Films
1. The Big Lebowski
2. Donnie Darko
3. The Godfather Part II
4. Pulp Fiction
5. The Dark Knight
6. The Matrix
7. A Christmas Story
8. The Sixth Sense
9. Titanic
10. Citizen Kane
I disagree with the Dark Knight and Sixth Sense, but good list
man I can't get over the conspiracy theory about him
Chris O'Neil already joked about it being a dildo. Let the sham rest.
Put all the Monty Python's on there.
Very interesting opinions. Now what’s his filmmaking resume like?
My boy James has about 400 movies to his name and he was friends with Steven Spielberg on AOL back in the 90s.
Mike is a true friend letting this slide. Anyone else would have asked more probing questions and laughed.
I might be outing myself as a moron but I think a lot of people don't actually understand what's going on in The Dark Knight, since they hardly ever talk about the script and only talk about the performances
The dark knights story and script isn't particularly well written or interesting, that's not what makes the movies good.
...so? You know a movie is more than just the script or story right? Some of the greatest movies ever made have extremely simple stories and scripts but it's all about the directing, performances, music, etc that make it great
Forget it anon, it's autisttown.
>2024
>still BRAVO NOLANing
>Some of the greatest movies ever made have extremely simple stories and scripts
Such as?
You’re not completely moronic the movie doesn’t hold up to scrutiny any more than the plane scene.
The luster of edgy Nolan batman movies has significantly worn off, most people now see them as the pretentious tryhard "THIS AIN'T YOUR DADDY'S BATMAN, THIS IS REAL KINO" type shit they've always been.
The issue is that the performances (well one performance really) is the only thing that elevate them above 6/10 capeshit movies.
The plot(s) are all pretty basic and/or moronic and the batsuit looks like fricking garbage, add to this that the movies are le edgy dark bamham and you've got 3 pretty annoying movies.
Heath Ledgers performance as The Funnyman is the best part and Tom Hardy as Beefcake is so bad it's good, but nothing else really stands out about the films.
Nolan is, and always was, the most mediocre director.
Oh I get it, contrarianism for attention.
Dont think so. "overrated" isnt the same as "bad". Some of these movies are great, but not as great as the hype surrounding it.
>1. The Big Lebowski
No
>2. Donnie Darko
No
>3. The Godfather Part II
Yes
>4. Pulp Fiction
A little
>5. The Dark Knight
A little
>6. The Matrix
Yes
>7. A Christmas Story
Yes
>8. The Sixth Sense
No
>9. Titanic
Underrated
>10. Citizen Kane
No
absolute dogshit taste, you should be removed from this board
In what universe is Titanic underrated?
The universe where people constantly shit on it.
The opposite of what this guy said and it's based.
It insists upon itself
Overrated by whom? Does "most overrated" mean "overrated by the most people" or "overrated with the greatest intensity"? In either case, where did he get his data and baselines? I can't answer the question without this information. James is a gay though so he's probably wrong.
He's just mad that people don't think King Kong is the greatest film ever.
Any of the "best" films of the last 10 years are the most overrated.
I have a feeling that most of those ended up on the list because he didn't understand them, due to him riding the short bus so to speak. Or actually, scratch that 'so to speak', the man literally rode on the short bus.
Yeah? Explain Donnie Darko
wormhole time masean go brrrrrrrr but Donnie want sexo.
Fiction about the universe supernaturally needing you to have a nice day and it being an intelligent and sacrificial thing, to fulfill the mood of real life suicidal people. ‘Ooh I feel like I’m going to kill myself I feel like I don’t belong’, oh yeah do you maybe feel like you died in the real world and now you’re in an alternate purgatory dimension that’s helping you accept you should have a nice day? That’s Donnie Darko, not too complicated
Life is Strange executed that better without a director's cut.
Who cares dude it’s a derivative video game that came out 15 years after the original movie it borrowed from
Guy should have died on the accident.
Because he didn't, he created a divergent timeline
Because he lives in the superposition of both timelines, he is able to sense the full "i did not die" timeline, because it's a closed loop (untill he dies again)
>Guy should have died on the accident.
Why didn't he?
BALLS
ON
THE
DICK
can you imagine driving around these speds, for a lack of a better word, out of the kindness of your own heart bc no one wants to or maybe youre down on your luck and landed there and one of them rats you out with the principal
>im such a good person i should be allowed to abuse mentally moronic children just a little
Truthers are so compassionate.
The story is even funnier when you realize that he was a high school student when “balls on the dick” upset him.
>You just didn't understand them
It's a valid criticism against someone who is literally mentally moronic.
That's one hundred percent why Lebowski is there. People go in expecting a traditional movie and think 'that's it?' when it's over, but it's actually about The Dude's philosophy, which is why it ends when it shows that his philosophy remains intact after everything that happens. I think it was Nostalgia Critic that put it that way.
It’s a long gag about american politics and the stoner liberal framed through a wistful narrator with a cowboy delusion. The useless rich manipulate people trying to steal their money that doesn’t exist as a means of personal embezzlement, and a military Zionist uses this as a chance to explode the situation for a sense of purpose at the expense of a slacker who just wanted a handout
Nah, it's just about The Dude and his cool view of life. Those things happen sure, but that's not what the movie is about.
Big Lebowski is the most overrated thing produced in any medium, so yes.
Can't agree with Godfather part II, though, it corrects a lot of problems with the first.
Good No1 also missing pulp fiction and fear n loathing las Vegas
Here is the actual list.
>15 best movies of all time were made in the last 10 years
I guess we've just gotten plain better at making them, huh? I kind of pity earlier generations that they didn't get to enjoy this level of kino.
Black folk are the official religion of the USA. Confirmed.
Criticism has become entirely uninteresting because there is only one view point allowed
It's actually violently disgusting to me that A Quiet Place is on that list.
Totally organic list
>90% is better than 98%
Literally says that it's an adjusted score.
They weigh the scores by how many critics rated them, how the audience rated them, how many black people are in the movie, etc.
lady bird is actually a decent movie, of course nowhere near a "best of all time" list tho
>people actually pay attention to the taste of this site
The best movie of all time is propaganda promoting a completely closed ethnostate for blacks. Are all the voters rabid nationalists or do they simply lack media literacy?
Black nationalism is literally not taboo, it’s still considered a bright future/better alternate history for a lot of people (in their dreams, of course). Don’t kid yourself. Plus the movie is actually about a black nation opening its borders
Hard disagree. And shawshank redemption is the most overrated movie that ever was
Frick Kane.
I want Citizen Tayne!
yes to everything except
>Donnie Darko
>The Matrix
Top 10's and calling things overrated are two of my pet peeves. It's just lame content. If he had something to say about one of those films I'd be more inclined to listen to what he has to say.
This is from a youtube video where he did talk about them. It's called "Top 10 Popular Films I Don't Love"
I just don't understand how anyone couldn't like The Matrix. It changed action movies forever and introduced an original new concept to the general public (that the universe was a simulation). Very few media do that. It's like Frankenstein levels of mythology.
Some people just can't overcome their contrarianism. They have to believe that they aren't like the rest of the sheep and have elevated tastes. This is probably way worse for people who consider themselves critics of whatever medium they are talking about. I'm sure deep down he knows it's a good movie but he just can't let himself enjoy it because it would mean he's just like everyone else.
I really miss this era of James. He actually had well thought out points, and was clearly making content he was invested in. It was very comfy, even if it wasn't peak AVGN. Honestly though, I kinda prefer this more chill content to how overblown AVGN gets.
I don't know who this loser is, but he's wrong about The Matrix being overrated. The Matrix is pretty much a universally beloved film and rightfully so. The Matrix is one of those rare perfect films in which not a single frame is wasted, in my opinion.
>I don't know who this loser is
that makes you the loser though
You're right that it makes you the loser, you e-celeb worshipper. lol
If he means the first one then yeah he's moronic that's pure kino
I completely agree with you, the first Matrix film is pure kino.
More of a "movies that 20 year olds who have seen a few Hollywood flicks overrate" list.
Citizen Kane is post-overrated at this point. It's not underrated, it's just gone beyond overrated into some sort of new territory.
Citizen Kane is a genuinely brilliant movie. Not just for the camera work or the technical stuff, but for its story. It's engaging, it's exciting. It's a great movie. The original tag line on the posters was "everybody's talking about it! It's terrific!" yet you would never believe that from hearing how people talk about it.
Eventually the praise became so intense that it was placed on a pedestal even it couldn't live up to. It became overrated. People talk about Citizen Kane like its an impenetrable art film that couldn't be understood by the common man, and needed hours upon hours of analysis.
Yet by now, so many people have said it's overrated that it's not even a contrarian take anymore. The rest of the movies on this list might make some people angry, but saying Citizen Kane is overrated is now the common mans opinion. Everybody thinks Citizen Kane is overrated, you're not special.
The result is, every so often people watch Citizen Kane for the first time, they're shocked to discover it's actually great. The acting is all top-notch. It definitely deserved its reputation, it deserved to be a critical darling.
So... what is it? It's not overrated, it's not underrated, and it's not perfectly rated where it should be either. It's an enigma.
Yes that's known as the David Beckham.
I don't know anything about soccer
Don't worry,
doesn't either.
It was also the spawning of an auteur, the premiere of a director as well as leading man who portrayed a convincing role of a magnate from the ages of young adulthood to old age.
You know I actually agree with that
Citizen Kane is the greatest film of all time and your sub-Kael blathering is just that.
Is it fair to call something overrated if it was historically important and significant at the time of release?
Yeah, some of these movies might not be great now but a lot of that is due to either the amount of movies that have been influenced by it and/or ripped off or just pop culture spoiling it. I imagine if you never saw the big lebowski before and your exposure is seeing people quote and meme it a ton it's probably not gonna be that enjoyable or something like sixth sense which somewhat hinges on it's twist but literally everyone knows the twist whether they saw it or not.
Sure, we can forgive some movies with their dated scenes. Look at Obi-wan vs Darth Vader fight, yet it's still a beloved movie.
But we can only forgive as much. Some of the movies on the list is just good when you're high or something.
That fight is fine aside from the moronic spin Obi-Wan does
It’s a good trick
>something like sixth sense which somewhat hinges on it's twist but literally everyone knows the twist whether they saw it or not.
I would say that if a movie hinges on you not knowing the twist, it's not a good movie. A well-written movie with a twist will still be enjoyable on a rewatch. In fact a well-written twist movie is often more enjoyable when rewatching since you can now apply the context of the twist to everything you are seeing and notice things you didn't before.
I agree with the whole plot twist thing. Relying on this is not good writing per se.
The thing is that's exactly the case for the sixth sense. Knowing the twist from it being your second watch vs it being spoiled are two completely different things.
good list
I want James Rolfe to suffer for how much he betrayed his fans. He owes me Mario themed sex.
bimmy lost
douge won
Why didn’t he just come back when the next shift started?
Was the lab locked? Or was he afraid to touch a computer without a non sped student?
>1. The Big Lebowski
>2. Donnie Darko
>3. The Godfather Part II
>7. A Christmas Story
>10. Citizen Kane
Absolutely
>4. Pulp Fiction
>8. The Sixth Sense
A little
>5. The Dark Knight
>6. The Matrix
>9. Titanic
Nope
>1. The Big Lebowski
Probably a little. It's not gut busting funny it has memorable moments though.
>2. Donnie Darko
Haven't watched it in a long time but I remember thinking its cool
>3. The Godfather Part II
Never got the hype behind it or people saying its as good as the first. The ending is great and its not horrible, but I think its a step down.
>4. Pulp Fiction
Shitty opinion, great movie.
>5. The Dark Knight
Shitty opinion, great movie. I'm sure James is an '89 gay.
>6. The Matrix
Agree. It hasn't aged well.
>7. A Christmas Story
Don't understand how anyone could dislike it. Max tier comfy.
>8. The Sixth Sense
It gets overhyped because of the twist.
>9. Titanic
Even if you think its cheesy or whatever you sort of have to concede that its an amazing technical achievement.
>10. Citizen Kane
Yes.
1) Goodfellas
2) Casino
3) Pulp Fiction
4) Kill Bill
5) Inception
6) Interstellar
7) Million Dollar Baby
8) There Will Be Blood
9) LOTR
10) Aliens
You belong on Mauler's podcast with opinions that bad.
>Aliens
Except this. Aliens is overrated as frick, there's only 1 good alien movie.
>You belong on Mauler's podcast
You mean as a topic, right? Because the people on my- I mean his podcast always have impeccable and well thought out opinions and you should really check it out if you haven't already.
Lebowski
Titanic
Donni Darko
Sixth Sense
Tdk
C C
I agree, overrated movies.
pulp fiction
No
citizen kane
It is difficult since this film created an entire film language that is used to this day.
The list should be big lebowski x10. Frick that overrated piece of gen x garbage
Citizen Kane
Casablanca
The Godfather
2001
Singin' in the Rain
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
Modern Times
There Will Be Blood
Mulholland Dr.
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Dark Knight is capeshit trash for midwits, he is absolutely right on that one.
I also agree with A Christmas Story (it's pleasant, but nothing incredible) and Titanic (the spectacle is good, but holy frick is that love story completely uninteresting). Maybe The Sixth Sense although I don't think many people nowadays would call it a masterpiece, just a good movie. Donnie Darko is just okay but also it's not even THAT popular.
Rest I disagree with. Like The Matrix is not a film I personally adore, but I completely understand it's popularity and why so many people think it's a 10/10. Same with The Godfather Part II even if I myself prefer the first one, and also believe that Once Upon A Time in America is overall a better mafia film.
You're the midwit if you immediately dismiss a movie for having capes
I like Burton's Batman films.
My issue with The Dark Knight is it's overall approach. It's so fricking serious. And maybe it could've worked if the film was stylish, but it wasn't. Every time I see people compare The Dark Knight to Mann's Heat I am shocked. Nolan's movie is utterly drab and styleless, I genuinely have no idea what people see in that generic bullshit. Only thing it has going for itself is Ledgers performance and some decent stunt work / practical effect use.
you sound like a dumb guy who thinks he is smart
I am genuinely baffled by the acclaim of The Dark Knight. I literally see no difference between it and some of the more serious MCU films. It looks like a tailor made studio product, yet people constantly say how fricking cool and innovative Nolan was by making a "serious" comic book movie, an "auteur blockbuster". Maybe I'm fricking blind or crazy.
mine would be;
1) Forrest Gump
2) The Shawshank Redemption
3) Oldboy
4) Get Out
5) DUNC
6) The Princess Bride
7) Everything Everywhere All At Once
8) E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial
9) The Exorcist
10) Trainspotting
>3) Oldboy
This was fricking ridiculous. Never understood the appeal. Had a couple of cool fight scenes, but that's all.
>princess bride
you wouldn't say this to my face irl b***h!
Big lebowski is a fat turd, there are ten better movies by the same fricking directors
8 1/2 is absolutely the most overrated movie of all time
Yes he's correct about all of those movies being very overrated. I would have added Shawshank Redemption to the list and removed Sixth Sense, because no one cares about Sixth Sense anymore, but otherwise a fine list.
Mostly agreed. This movie sucks.
La Dolce Vita and Amarcord are better Fellini films but 8 1/2 is his most fundamental one.
>most fundamental one
What do you mean?
It's where he perfected his overall "stream" style. Where the events just flow, with things getting progressively more surreal, and any semblance of plot just sorta disappearing. This is something that became very influential in the long term. But I can see why someone would dislike the style, or specifically the way it was used in 8 1/2 considering that movie was very much Fellini self-reflecting. Amarcord is similar and also autobiographical, but has broader appeal because it's not specifically focused on the filmmaking process as a subject matter.
I see. I understand the boldness and inventiveness of it, the meta-commentary and so on. The problem is that the concept doesn't work, because as a viewer you will construct a narrative out of an anti-narrative to a certain extent. But that's all intellectual. The movie itself is a drag. It's funny that a hack like Tarantino then would utilize this to pretty good effect in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I thought 8 1/2 was very engaging because the subject matter is interesting to me. Try La Dolce Vita or Amarcord, I think these are also incredible films and you might like them more because of broader appeal.
Neorealist Fellini is also pretty good, Nights of Cabiria, La Strada. He has a lot of stuff worth watching but the three masterpiece of his for me are still La Dolce Vita, 8 1/2 and Amarcord.
Thanks for the suggestions fren <(^-^<) good awoofternoon.
yikes
I've seen all the ones you named except Amarcord. I'll watch it some time. I love La Strada. I think it's a perfect film.
This is not me...
James Rolfe: "how come nobody wants to go to the movies with me?"
No, I do not
Not with Citizen Kane, even his reasoning tells me he had some pretty weak film professors. The rest are legitimately overrated in the grand scheme of this art form.
Citizen Kane was routinely called the best movie ever made. That's grounds on its own for being called overrated.
>That's grounds on its own for being called overrated.
Only if it's not a serious contender for being the best movie ever made.
There is no greatest movie. The category doesn't make any sense. It's film reviewer mental detritus that shouldn't be given any attention. Art isn't a democracy and you don't get to vote on what's best. Citizen Kane may belong, likely does belong, in a conversation about what makes film great art and what qualities define that. Calling it le best ever! is overrated by default before any other comment can be made.
When people talk about cinema such a category inevitably appears. Yes, there's no "objective" best film ever, but there are films that attract the most amount of fans among the people generally interested in cinema as an artform. And while it's not "objective" it is still interesting to study what films attract the most people. The voting process by which CK usually got the first place wasn't actually people asking what specific movie you ("you" being usually a film critic or a filmmaker) think is the best film of all time.
Instead various critics and filmmakers provided their personal top 10s of favorite movies, and Citizen Kane managed to appear the most amount of times in such lists.
Yes, the question comes up because people make favourites lists and then we use the process to make a vote. All that tells us is that Citizen Kane is recognized as being special or particular. It would be very difficult to say that x is the most interesting or appealing movie, though. This changes quite a lot, depending on the group, depending on the nation state, etc. And when people say x is the best movie ever made, they don't mean "x is the best movie ever made as compiled by a numbered list of favourite movies blah blah blah". As I said, these particular movies give us a way to talk about what makes film great art. There's no singular peak to that mountain, and even if we believed there were one or could be one, it wouldn't be discovered or scaled democratically.
It is the best movie ever made.
Stay away from dogs.
No. Because American Beauty, Gravity and Crash are omitted. He's just another nobody looking for clicks.
Yes except Godfather 2. It’s true kino levels above everything else on the list. But nothing is more overrated than Dark Knight. Heaths performance was fine but it wouldn’t have been as big if they didn’t kill him first. Bale is both the worst Batman with that voice and the worst Wayne with that stupid ass lisp.
Was Coda worth it? Or was it just trying to appease people who like mafia|gangster stuff?
>overrated movie list
Let’s be honest and just start calling them ‘salty b***h’s insecurity list’. Your idea on how something is rated is completely relative, the only way you can even have a list like this is if you hold a vendetta against your idea of the public over something being less fun than you thought
Only with the Big Lebowski
This list feels outdated now. We live in a post-George Floyd world where it's not okay to express film bro opinions like "Pulp Fiction is the greatest movie ever made" anymore.
When I was 20 a local theatre showed classics every week. I didn't expect anything from Citizen Kane but it was my favourite by far.
>I don't connect to the character
Then you're an NPC.
The vast majority of movies pre-70s have really substandard pacing and blocking by modern standards, so when you see one that's actually good, it really stands out.
Unless it's king kaahng or the woofman I'm not interested
BALLS ON THE DICK
FIVE OF UM?
most of these were successful because they not "overrated" but both popular with people and people liked to pay for them. while other may don't like this does make them "overrated "
except donnie darko which was more popular than people were actual willing to pay for it and even worse with the sequel