>Red Hood finally gets his own territory in Gotham City, called the Hill, which is known to be one of the most dangerous parts of the city.
>This move signifies a major step for Red Hood in stepping out of Batman's shadow and becoming his own hero with his own supporting cast.
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I thought it was an interview with the writer, but it seems to be just a game of guessing. I don't trust DC nor I expect anything from them. I do think though that it's a good idea for Jason to be given his own corner and for him to settle down for a bit.
>batfamily characters stealing from Jason once again
Nothing new.
The writer tweeted the article so I assume there's some truth to it.
>Red Hood finally gets his own territory in Gotham City, called the Hill, which is known to be one of the most dangerous parts of the city.
I know this book was meant to come out years ago but Cass and Steph have been operating out of the Hill for a couple years now.
Anyway this mini just seems like the author pushing his OCs by anchoring them to Jason.
Yeah but Cass and Steph don't have a book anymore.
If it’s the most dangerous, why’d they send the girls there? They could get raped, killed or taken by traffickers.
Just give him his own Bludhaven. Setting non-Batman stories in Gotham is always distracting. I remember reading Simon fricking Dark's Lovecraftian climax and just thinking "sure, sure, but where's Batman?"
>just thinking "sure, sure, but where's Batman?"
That's just your own autism I'm afraid.
City hall was beset by demons. You're telling me Batman isn't showing up?
If he isn't showing up, then yes, he's probably busy with his own high stakes story, this one isn't about him.
still, being missing while demons overrun city hall is being a bit of a shit Batman, isn't it?
You're missing the point, just because a story takes place in Gotham doesn't mean everyone should keep asking "Where's Batman?", there can be Gotham stories without Batman.
It's fine if the stories are low stakes, but Gotham wouldn't exist without Batman as the underpinning character in a meta context. It's his city. Having a big, high stakes event in Gotham without Batman involved in some capacity is in poor taste. The Nightwing writers were smart and gave Dick his own city. There's no reason Red Hood should be bound to Gotham unless you are okay with his threats only ever being small time.
Sometimes Batman is busy in some other country, or in space, or in the past, or with the JLA, or incapacitated due to plot reasons, turn your autism down and understand that there can be Gotham stories without Batman.
It isn't autism; it's basic long-term story-telling planning. Every time you have a big event in Gotham without Batman, you need to give a reason for why he isn't there, and you can only get away with it a few times before it becomes convoluted and trite. There's a reason spin-offs typically take place somewhere or sometime else from the mainline. It's to prevent scenarios like this.
I think you're overthinking it, but you do you, while an explanation for Batman's absence is appreciated, I don't think it's always necessary, he's a busy guy, I can excuse the lack of Batman in stories that aren't about him.
Gotham City should have distinct neighborhoods. It was a big deal back during NML, the unique cultures of each district.
>Gotham City should have distinct neighborhoods
It does, Tim got the gay neighborhood.
There's distinct neighborhoods but there's also distinct levels of event.
Then Jason should have crime Alley, not the Hill.
...You sound like you'd like that. Thumbs down, bro.
>Jason had the balls to steel the Batmobile’s wheels
>Incidentally managed to make Batman laugh in Crime Alley of all places
>Even smacked Batman with a tire iron square in the stomach
No No No.
No Bludhaven. No Gotham. No city.
Jason be a soldier of fortune. World traveler.
>pushing his OCs by anchoring them to Jason
That's exactly what it's going to be.
> we're back
No.
>pushing his OCs
Yeah, this is just a continuation of what he was doing before it got post-poned due to scheduled derailing at DC. He seems more interested to shove Jason in the back than to write him as a strawman like everyone else at DC, so there's that.
I want DC to die off. But I'd settle for Batman getting fisted by Joker.
homie where have you been
some shitty homie writer got his hands on him after lobdell left
it was shit then & it'll be shit again
Lobdell was a shitty writer too.
Scott Jobdell.
>diversity hire writer with a new black women OC love interest to shill and also a story about "gentrification"
Rather have Red Hood killed off permanently
Honestly if it'll get Jason gays to stop whining then yeah.
>diversity hire
He wrote for DC before in a pretty long time ago. He isn't a new writer (and so what if he was?).
>new black women OC love interest
Already confirmed that she isn't going to be a "love interest".
>Already confirmed that she isn't going to be a "love interest".
Fricking GAY.
After artemis, Rose, and Steph as love interests, no way poofballs will stand a chance at generating any fan interest.
Steph was a love interest?
Not necessarily but enough people consider her in the running because they had some chemistry with Rosenberg writing them.
Not every female character is going to be a love interest, there's nothing wrong with Jason having a female friend that he won't frick.
Steph wasn't a love interest.
Men and women can’t be friends.
>"gentrification"
Are you saying you LIKE landlord parasites jacking up rents and hogging all the housing so there's nothing left for anyone to buy or rent?
>Are you saying you LIKE middle class or better people around? You don't WANT to live in a ghetto?
"Gentrification" doesn't mean landlords anon. lt means a general upscalng of the area. Slums still have slum lords they just don't usually live n the building.
I don't like slumlords either, but gentrification usually means a lot of overpriced apartments sitting empty and more people kicked into the street with nowhere to go and a much bigger incentive to cause trouble. Renevictions are not a solution to anything.
If you really hate what people do in poverty as much as your post makes it sound, you should take a look into the real cost of poverty to society as a whole and REAL solutions. Economics is complicated and kicking the can down the road will bite us all in the ass someday.
>whine when Red Hood is given his own cast
>whine when he is with the batfamily
Seriously, what do you want?
easy homie, it's called rhato
While, I did like Rhato, I absolutely don't want another run and especially after the webtoon series. Red Hood needs to fly solo away from any other established character (and frankly, he should have been given a solo series before a team up book).
rofl lets give him the ric grayson treatment
I want him to be an ugly murderous balding red headed psycho criminal with zits that unconditionally hates Batman and the Bat-Family and tries to kill them almost every other day.
I already had guessed from your comment, but I didn't want to assume. Are you one of "those" who feel the need to state your opinion about Jason while accusing his fans of being obsessed with your muh?
Look man I just want him to get his stupid helmet back, he can keep the rest of his costume the same, but I just really miss the fricking helmet.
The MK mask and literal hood aren't enough, the helmet is too iconic to replace.
>the goofy costume making appearance
This is one of the many reasons why I can't stand DC
14 years on and STILL seething over Morrison lmao.
Yeah, because I'm stating that I don't like the costume means that I'm "seething"
I'm surprised the Red Pill costume is acknowledged, but not the Wingman identity.
I think it's because of Williamson who made a reference to it in his future state series which frankly didn't make any sense
His hamlet won't work with his current costume, but I'm surprised that they didn't give him a new costume already. He usually get one whenever dc start a new era.
Jason is in weird place right now. I won't say that DC doesn't care, but they aren't exactly trying hard enough with him. I'm actually unsure where they are planning to take him after his mini end.
They really should care more about Jason, he's a very unique character in DC.
I get the impression that GW was supposedly going to set up a new direction for Jason, but it ironically end up being the straw that broke the camel's back.
Which is weird. I don't think gotham war was worst thing to happen to Jason. He actually got the family standing up for him for once
The ending of cheer was a good gateway for the hill storyline. It would have been better to have Jason calm down and settle down in a new place than shove him quickly in another undercover storyline.
Having Jason become obsessed with the Joker again and not even allow him to be at least competent about it is what truly killed the interest. People are getting sick and tried of DC not even letting him at least be "cool".
I actually liked the scene of him saving the girl. It was pretty heroic considering how hard he was against his body.
>he
+fought
My impression was that Jason was supposed to die by crashing into the meteor, but Zdarsky didn't get to do it.
>He actually got the family standing up for him for once
Not really. Aside from getting angry on his behalf to have the moral high ground over Bruce, batfam isn't concerned with Jason's wereabouts after they learn what Bruce did to him.
I seriously doubt that they even thought about killing Jason. It's not easy to kill a character like Jason and especially in some two series crossover event.
To be fair, Batman did face consequences for what he did this time and was called out for it.
According to Rich the Leech, that was the plan before someone in editorial realized how stupid it was and vetoed the idea
His article literally made no sense and I have reread multiple times. It stated nothing except that he heard (in a con during a time where GW was already near the end) that Jason is going die or something and it obviously didn't happen. He didn't say anything about editors.
I don't know if I'd say getting a slap on the wrist and fricking off to your own solo is consequences or being called out for something as heinous as "messing with somebody's body without their consent" is on paper. I don't think I'm that much of a sociopath yet.
>protected him
From what? Himself? Batman? They sure are shit at that then. Jason was just a strawman to give them a reason to opposes Batman. Batman being unhinged af did the rest. They sure didn't search for him after, it's even how Jason ends up being with the "Joker".
>Not really
Yeah, it's not like they protected him when he and Bruce fought. Got worried when he disappeared. Beat the heck out of Batman when they found out what he did. Searched for him and called out Batman again for what he did.
He’s also the most liked outside of comics. The character’s got a future in film and tv.
Trust me, you don't want DC to care more about Jason. Look at what with they did to Tim and he was their golden boy.
I saw a thread about Nightwing the other day where a writer said he's boring. Many people itt agreed, but how do people feel about Jason?
I like both, but prefer Jason. His history makes him more interesting.
nearly twenty years of being the worst selling bat character probably soured their opinion.
That's very pathetic of Jason.
Jason has good taste in jackets
You are right. Taking away his helmet is a shit move visually.
It's a great helmet. I love my red boys.
I want Winick’s Jason back.
....why?
Why not? It’s the best version of Jason.
Write a 1000 word essay on why.
…Why not or why yes? Anyway, I’m not going to write it. I don’t want to waste my time explaining some basic stuff like “what is an antihero” to morons like this
How shocked you would be if you find out that Winick was in the "Jason is a villain" camp and didn't understand why people took his side over Batman?
You know he played innocent right?
>N-n-no It’s not okay for him to kill a hundred of rapists AT THE SAME TIME.
See? This shit is why I hate this board so much.
>rapists
What kind of headcanon is this? Winick had Jason massacre the prisoners without a cause and just because he feels like it.
>What kind of headcanon is this?
Yeah, I forgot about serial killers, gangsters, drug dealers, pedophiles, etc.
>without a cause
They tried to kill him first…
>You know he played innocent right?
I'm admittedly confused about what you are trying to say here.
He went too far. Jason literally committed a massacre which was too much for even an "anti-hero".
Winick's Red Hood was very clearly a villain. He was introduced carting around eight heads in a duffel bag, and he followed it up by mowing a dozen guys down with a minigun.
All bad guys though.
Ironically, the obsession with winick from some jason fans is one of the reasons why he is such mess. I wish some of them would move on already because winick didn't seem to care much about jason when he brought him back unlike johns who actually cared about hal.
>winick didn't seem to care much about jason
I'm fairly certain he only ever cared writing a crime lord villain and happen to luck out with Jason's resurrection.
Winick's Jason is still the best characterization wise for sure, but it needs to updated. Jason can't go back to how he was in UTRH.
Only in UtRH and even then only really the movie. Lost Days was shit, his Red Hood in Green Arrow arc was shit, even his version of Ginger Jason somehow managed to be worse than Morrisons balding whackjob
>even his version of Ginger Jason somehow managed to be worse than Morrisons balding whackjob
Wouldn't go this far, but Winick certainly turned him into a serial killer and damaged him more instead of fixing him.
Maybe not worse but I at least got why Morrison did what he did. Winnick though.
>but I at least got why Morrison did what he did
...you do? I personally think that he didn't understand the implication he was setting up by having Batman treat him the way he did.
>by having Batman treat him the way he did.
I just assumed Morrison's Jason was a liar and/or a whiny b***h, blaming Bruce for things that were actually his own fault.
It's not Morrison had Batman being decent to Jason since we have a panel of him declaring that he doesn't want to be his father (which doesn't make sense since he adopted him). So, why would you even assume the he made it up?
>why would you even assume the he made it up?
Felt in-character for how Morrison wrote Jason.
While his take of him was terrible, he didn't write him as liar. His Batman was already unhinged anyway and he accidentally made him worse with changes he made to Jason's backstory.
Hom running solo, being a c**t to both criminals and the Batman and family.
>the Hill, which is known to be one of the most dangerous parts of the city
What part of Gotham isn't dangerous?
>Two characters wearing hockey pads
>Batman's face when
And she’s hot too? Come on, man.
butterface maybe
>tfw Jason got basically brainfricked by batman in the main batman book a couple issues back
>tfw like marvel, every comic in DC right now is just doing whatever the frick it wants without any cohesiveness what so ever.
>Jason got basically brainfricked by batman in the main batman book
You can tell nobody wanted that, cause in a later Joker issue, Joker himself pretty much cures Jason from the brain frickery and brings him back to normal.
His new mini is apparently supposed to be a flashback or whatever.
Joker did say the cure would only work temporarily. I can see DC using it cope-out, though.
Yeah, it takes place right after his series ended, but maybe it will jump to present day if it does well.
I personally hope that Zdarsky would address it in his run and won't pretend that it didn't happen. Bruce and Jason need to talk about it.
issue number and key plot points for how we got there?
>still using the worst costume
>"Hey everybody, it's me, Jesus, here to fight with my signature weapon, the crucifix!"
You joke but Jesus did kinda take the crucifix and made it its own when you think about it.
If there was a jesus fighting game, I could totally see a projectile, an anti air and maybe even a super version.
What city would work best for him? Or kind of city?
I honestly prefer him out of Gotham. It slows down the inevitability of "hey what if Red Hood and Batman meet up and get this have a misunderstand end up fighting and experiencing horrendous father/son man pain?" My ideal Jason book would genuinely just be Outlaws with a mature sticker slapped on and written by someone competent
>implying that having Jason out of Gotham is going to stop this from happening
Reminder that RHATO was supposed to take Jason out of Gotham and he was quickly forced back anyway.
I still want Jason to reunite with Eddie Bloomberg.
I mean, come on, Red Hood and Red Devil, they have matching names!
It was one throw-away story from 40 years ago. Get over it.
It's a meaningless empty cliche. Jason is the second Robin and the umpteenth Red Hood. He's not sitting in Batman's shadow, Batman's the only reason he's relevant.
>and the umpteenth Red Hood
....
>he doesn't know about the red hood gang
I do and they were a recton. This is like saying Dick isn't the first Robin because they made a recton about Bruce being the first one. Jason is historically the second Red Hood.
The story about Bruce being the first Robin hasn't been referenced in decades. The story about there being countless Red Hoods is one of the most famous Batman stories ever told.
>Get over it.
Never.
>It was one throw-away story from 40 years ago.
So? It was still a unique relationship that Jason had from his time as Robin, I think it's worth acknowledging.
Every single new story direction the big two come up with in the last ten or so years comes across as utterly fricking corny, even for superhero comics.
"The hill". Frick off.
The hill is 25 years old concept...
Sorry, change it to 23 years or so. It sounded so gay I'm in disbelief that Priest came up with it.
They can't decide what they want this character to be other than edgy Robin with a morbid backstory for his name and costume.
Bring back his Amazon wheyfu and their adopted special needs son.
This was a different time, Jason won't be getting a team like this ever again.
This is the only time I cared about the character
>Nightwing moves to Bludhaven to step out of Batman's shadow
>Red Hood moves to The Hill and steps out of Batman's shadow
Why do writers/marketing/Anons do this? What does stepping out of Batman's shadow even mean?
Are you stupid?
It means nothing, neither of these characters will ever step out of Batman's shadow. These characters are so old now and still have nothing to their name beyond being trophies/chapters in Batman's life.
I don't think that even DC wants them out of Batman's shadow because they really do not perform well without Batman showing up or being referenced. Their shows, games, etc... get cancelled, forgotten or ridiculed, their comics don't ever sell enough for them to become a brand of their own or even get a Black Label book. Their only hope of ever being popular is featuring in another Batman game or movie like Jason in AK.
>getting this triggered over wording in fan made article
I like Morrison's Jason.
I like the Red Pill costume.
That's about it.
>winick
Wait a second!
Should’ve kept the red guns.
The most redpilled costume out there.
I see what you did there
That Nightwing backup had Jason hanging on the Hill so maybe this status quo will stick for a while.
He really need to ditch the MK ninja look for good though
What's Jason's fricking problem?
He gotta listen to Dick's nonsense bullshit and artist forgot to draw him his beer in the third panel. It's a pretty shit night for him if you ask me.
>Dick and Jason are the first brothers to say "I love you" to each others
Pretty funny considering how their fans seem to hate others.
In my experience they're both just tired of Timgays berating them. l don't feel any animosity to the other Robins.
Thing is the guns are a symbol in a way batarangs aren't. They show he's the Robin who's broken from Bruce's philosophy. The crowbar on the other hand is just a tacky memberberry.
>Goy scout
lol
>The crowbar on the other hand is just a tacky memberberry.
I think it's as much of a memberberry as the Red Hood identity itself, just Jason taking something else from the Joker, I like him having them as part of his arsenal.
I hate the white stripe so much it looks so gay
>gay
Wut?
The white stripe is good look on him and it should be more consistent.
Well, you are in luck, he has no stripe in the mini
Honestly, I never liked it either.
this art sucks bring back Rocofort or Onions
Rocafort's art is ass. He has horrible paneling and wastes so much page space.
>Rocafort's art is ass.
Then you'll probably be glad to hear that he won't have it in his upcoming book.
ok but does he have his guns back
DC is pretty inconsistent about his guns. They randomly appear in one story and suddenly disappear in another.
Do people ask where are Batman's batarangs if he doesn't use them in one story? I for one am glad that Jason has more than just guns.
>Do people ask where are Batman's batarangs if he doesn't use them in one story?
No, because he has other cool gadgets and they don't suddenly disappear for no reason.
>
I for one am glad that Jason has more than just guns
I would say good for if it wasn't for the fact that they had him use the useless crowbar and made him the ultimate jobber.
When you think about it, Jason actually saved Gotham twice, saved two kids and almost died three times which all happened in matter of few weeks and while fighting a crippling fear. This is quite an impressive accomplishment.
A lot of that would've been avoidable if he didn't be a whiny little b***h trying to frick up with Bruce for the nth time.
Are you seriously blaming him for Bruce's mess? All of this happened because of him creating Zur.
The whole thing with Selina escalated because he decided to help her and then rally the family against Bruce. Zur only gained a hold because of the family turning on Bruce.
And in Joker, he didn't need to risk his life to stop the dirigible from crashing in Gotham of he didn't willingly join the fricking Joker and act as a bait for Bruce so the two clowns could had their little slap fight.
You seemed to miss an important detail here about how Bruce put Jason in danger by basically making him helpless while Joker was after him.
Also, Zur is completely Bruce's fault and his fault alone. No one forced to make such an idiotic back plan that of course end up back firing on him and everyone else (and Jason suffered from this).
>You seemed to miss an important detail here about how Bruce put Jason in danger by basically making him helpless while Joker was after him.
Again, it is something that happened only because of Jason's own actions. Bruce wasn't aiming to do anything to him if he didn't decide to join Selina.
And all the reasons they gave for it were either petty or fricking stupid
>Bruce wasn't aiming to do anything to him if he didn't decide to join Selina
You literally think joining Selina is such a horrible crime that justify what Bruce did to him? This is pretty terrible excuse especially since we are talking about the guy who made a huge deal of losing just 10 minutes of his memory.
And remember when J'onn said this?
>"I would never alter another person's mind, there's no greater violation..."
So, Bruce actually committed a great violation that he should actually answer for.
I wonder if DC realizes the consequences of making such a story.
The consequences are making me want Zdarsky gone lol
I don't think they did, but I do think it accidentally worked in Jason's favor. He actually has the high ground now and any argument from Bruce against him in the future would be only seen as hypocritical. He truly crossed the line in big waybthis time.
I'm sure they didn't, but that's like utrh ending with Bruce slashing Jason's throat to save the Joker. DC will just brush all that under the carpet, so they or Batman don't have to assume anything. Everyone seems pretty eager to forgot GW, anyway.
Probably not, even though the behavior of the Batfam during GW, that they willingly joined Catwoman in creating a gang of thieves/stopped Batman from apprehending said thieves who then joined Vandal Savage in destroying Gotham, proved DotF Joker right in that his family make him weak.
You know you fricked up when you make Snyder Joker look right. Holy shit Gotham War was moronic as all out.
It proves that Batman works better solo. Just like in the movies.
It also shows that Batman’s an idiot for even giving Catwoman the time of day and should’ve looked elsewhere for proper companionship.
Intentionally manipulating the rest of the family so they all fight Bruce is pretty shitty and that is what led to Zur's bullshit brainwashing.
Bruce himself had no issues Jason let be.
>Bruce himself had no issues Jason let be
He was completely against Jason joining Selina and not because of the reason you mentioned (he wasn't even aware that he "joined" her until the fight). He had a meltdown after losing the manor which triggered his fear of losing Jason and decided to chase after him (which is ironic because he almost lost him three times due to his actions). He was being a controlling freak who decided to take Jason's agency under the name of "protecting him". And while his reasons were emotional and it did come from love, they were still completely unjustified
Blaming Jason for what happened is silly and even the story acknowledge that Batman was at fault and went too far.
He did accomplish more than any bat character (including Batman) despite not having his own book. He is truly the hero Gotham needs.
Lmao, you are actually right.
Well, yeah. He said multiple times that he was unhappy about coming back.
>2023 was the year of Red Hood after all
Heh
Does Jason have a death wish? He definitely would've died had Rose not saved his ass.
It occurs to me that Killer Moth has been wingjacked twice in recent history by members of the Bat-family. This should be a running gag.
Should've let him die.
nice art
The story in the Ghouls anthology was the best written Jason of 2023
Sounds stupid as frick. If there was a really dangerous place in Gotham Batman would be all over that shit in a heartbeat.
>Batman would be all over that shit in a heartbeat.
So, what was the point of recurring all these children then if he can simply do everything in his own?
I feel like every day there's a new part of Gotham trying to be hyped as the worst.
The Hill is an old concept actually.
Jason should be more explicitly pro 2A. It'd give him more of an edge, it's reasonable to assume your average Gotham citizen doesn't have years of ninja training, someone should speak for them.
God everybody in this thread is b***hing and moaning like there's not going to be years following the release of this book to b***h and moan about it.
Why can't you pathetic Black folk ever be cautiously optimistic about something?
I like that they're finally doing some gang leader shit with Jason. I don't care if that gang is a bunch of Power Rangers ripoffs, because one of them is gonna die, one's gonna be attractive enough for Cinemaphile to waifu, one might actually be good and the rest will be forgotten forever. That's how these things go.
Jesus Christ, you only have to endure comic arcs for a few months to a year at most, but you guys have got to start bellyaching early so you suffer longer. It's sad.
While I don't care for DC nor expect much from them, I do agree with you. Jason is my favorite cape character and I can't stand his fanbase. Too whiney and are unhappy about everything. Like get over yourselves already.
>be cautiously optimistic about something?
>you only have to endure comic arcs for a few months
Sir, this is capeshit and you aren't even consistent with yourself.
Comics release monthly, Black person. The span of a story is measured in months.
Furthermore, nobody has a gun to your head and is making you read this shit, you can check out anytime, and I mean that both in the sense of you as a capeshit reader and also that you can have a nice day any time.
Endure the story or don't, you can't deny it's a fleeting ephemera that you and others ITT are twisting yourself into b***h knots over.
>you can't deny
I'm not. I'm telling you the situation. Otherwise I agree you should try to check out if you must "endure" comics. It can however be a slow process so suck it up, snowflake.
You're literally agreeing with me, you fricking moron. Way to be an argumentative dick while providing no new information or interesting discussion. have a nice day.
You're seething and b***hing about people seething and b***hing. There's no argumentation to have here, moron.
>have a nice day
After you.
It might have something to do with this being the continuation of a shit arc?
>~~* *~~
>That tweet
Oh man, can't wait to read another Storytime from Hell.
He's right.
When someone uses the parenthesis now I can't tell if they love or hate israelites anymore. Him being a writer cleared it up thankfully.
So he gets a ripoff Bludhaven and wallows in Dick's sloppy seconds, again
>stepping out of Batman's shadow
>literally operating in Gotham still
>still has this terrible wrestler's paintball outfit
>still can't kill
>cast are a bunch of literally who cares civies in other bad sports gear
Wow. Thanks DC. That's just what people want.
Jason doesn't work, having a former Robin that kills bad guys is cool in concept, but then you have to deal with Batman, he'll never let one of his kids go around killing, so you either have to make Jason stop killing, which makes him a lamer Nightwing, or you have to make him good enough to evade Batman, which makes Bruce look like a b***h.
Jason to me feels like a character that has an expiration date. Like, when he comes back as Red Hood, it's the beginning of the end for Joker, who unknowingly set the stage for his own downfall by torturing and killing Jason in the first place.
Jason would eventually take the Joker down, losing his life in the process. Essentially a living wraith, a revenant that takes care of the Joker without having Batman break his no kill rule.
Or at least something along those lines.
Under the Red Hood should have been like The Wrath, a one-off story that never overstayed its welcome and lives on forever as an all-time classic.
Under the Red Hood isn't even a particularly good story.
How can a story that has Bruce cutting open his resurrected son’s jugular to save his murderer life not one of the greatest?
I'm very glad that they changed that in the movie.
It's not. Neither is Death in the Family. Neither is Hush. But they're all iconic stories.
Not iconic because they're good, but rather because of their impact.
Make Jason Amanda Waller's pet project.
There, solves all issues.
Didn't they already do that in Outlaws?
I don't remember Waller ever being relevants in Outlaws.
I swear I remember some story arc where he was Wallers b***h.
Well, the burden of proof is on you.
>https://www.dc.com/blog/2021/08/09/suicide-squad-get-joker-will-figuratively-blow-your-mind
It was this. Though she did also meet the Outlaws so I may have got the stories mixed up
>he'll never let one of his kids go around killing
But he'll let the guy who slaughtered his kid go around killing?
>you have to make him good enough to evade Batman, which makes Bruce look like a b***h.
Okay which makes Batman look more like a b***h: his formidable foe is...
A) a highly trained genius soldier prodigy who is only as good as he is because he is one of the elite few trained by the Batman himself
B) a disgusting edgy piss clown
Almost all complaints about Red Hood are problems that started way before him.
>but then you have to deal with Batman
No, you don’t have to. Just leave him alone and everything will be fine.
Is he right?
The Toddster.