>Keep an eye out for criticisms and who's saying it >Us real fans have been here forever and will eat this shit up cause we are true believers >Don't listen negative complaints they're from haters who don't care about the material
God damn this Pilpul.
>The red wedding >Stannis the mannis >Siege of kings landing(the first one with stannis) >Theon torture >The spider versus little finger shit flinging
You're lying to yourself and only yourself.
>>The red wedding
ned stark 2.0, first time was better >>Stannis the mannis
good character but pointless plot >>Siege of kings landing(the first one with stannis)
that one was good >>Theon torture
ok, but not great >>The spider versus little finger shit flinging
capeshit quips
2 years ago
Anonymous
>le contrarian post
(You)
2 years ago
Anonymous
>quips
im sick and tired of incel chuds disparaging quips
they are very entertaining
2 years ago
Anonymous
frick off zoomer
2 years ago
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>t. brainlet ESL hands typed this post
2 years ago
Anonymous
So then you do admit there was good shit past season one?
2 years ago
Anonymous
yes, but a couple good scenes don't make a good season
2 years ago
Anonymous
So then besides Ned's death what was good about season one?
because that's all the showrunners have to actually plan to get greenlit. shows which have more than one season planned effectively didn't even exist until the Sopranos.
>The fulminated mercury scene in Breaking Bad >Ned Stark getting decapped >All of Fargo S1 >The Elliot = Mr. Robot reveal >Twin Peaks S1
You're not wrong.
The tweet is correct if youre talking about sitcoms or dramas. But thats because the writers need to find a rythm and develop a voice for the characters. Only show i can think of that does the opposite is Arrested Development. Its not the same for thrillers and epics where the audience needs to be hopked right away and the show needs direction of an overall narrative.
these garbage sounds too much like corporate talking points to me, if it was just a guy he would talk about the series, not about some corporate cope about Prime Video, lmao it's just a website for videos, not some new invention >A lot is on the line… for everyone. Bezos’ billions. Fans relationship with Middle-earth now that Christopher Tolkien has passed on. The entire Prime Video experiment. These showrunners carry an incredibly heavy burden shaped by legacy & passion & purpose
>shill account, paid account
They have run LOTR forums since the 90s you fricking newhomosexual
Don't get me wrong I find the guy annoying but they are not on anybodies payroll. And if you want to talk about shilling you should have seen the way Jackson/New Line treated the guy who runs the site back in the day. Exclusive director interviews, set visits and tickets to every premiere.
Amazon haven't done 1/10 what Jackson did to butter those guys up, maybe they should
I canNOT wait for this shit to be released and see the endless seething and coping and whining about racism and misogyny. Amazon gets what the FRICKIN deserve
Tolkienbros, we won't stop winning
>"We just got you a great role! They don't even care about skin color, so this is also a big win for diversity!" >Dresses up like a 19th century African-American slave
not even remotely true.
most all tv shows decrease in quality with each season. very few should get more than 3 in total. amazon should not be able to use this series to avoid paying taxes when it inevitably bombs.
yes, there's only so much you can do with a character, and most of it get squeezed in season 1 and 2, the only times season 3 may be good is if the world built in the series is compelling and expansive enough that you can squeeze new character that have something to say
i dont watch things that dont interest me and i also dont watch a lot of things that do interest me
the only thing im looking forward to with this disaster is watching my moronic globohomosexual Black person loving brothers having to come up with bullshit to defend and praise it
its like twitter posts turned into a live action play
This might be true for a long running series, but with streaming shows they have to get it right the first time or there won't even be a second season.
It will get a second season no matter what, even if it's only so journos can write their "fact check: chuds said this flopped = FALSE" articles. That Batwomyn show comes to mind, show was a mess since the first episode and it still got a second season just out of spite.
it's not about not being great, it's about being entertaining, and then becoming great.
Waiting two seasons for greatness is one thing, having to suffer through miserable garbage for two seasons is something else.
Some of the best ST episodes, of all time, are in the first season, and the second had classics as well.
In fact, every single great TV show has had decent-good preliminary seasons, at least enough to build a solid audience until the show runners become comfortable.
Eating shit for three years, hoping one day to taste honey instead is basically what that tweete is saying.
yeah, usually series used to have to produce an entertaining and intriguing pilot to even get picked, not sure how it works now if plots even have pilots, or they just get produced even if they can't show 1 decent episode
>or they just get produced even if they can't show 1 decent episode
this is how it works now.
They buy established IP's to minimize risk of being DoA, throw money at it until it sticks with the moronic and entirely tasteless modern audience of soccer moms and capehomosexuals
Most shows are cancelled before they get to season 3. Television pilots have to be designed to wow executives, because that’s what green lights them to make more. Honestly, if by the third episode your show is tanking, you’re fricked. >wait for season 3
I worked with a guy who thought like this. Poured his heart and soul into a television pilot and accompanying web series that took him three years of filming on evenings and weekends with a volunteer crew. Had all these grand designs for later seasons, and spent the pilot and episodes of the web series laying all these “Easter eggs” that would go so far as to be relevant in season 5 or so. He never finished the pilot, or the web series. It was written, and shot, but he never got a coherent edit completed. Instead, eight years later, he’s making it into an audio drama, and rewriting the whole damn thing.
>grand designs for later seasons, and spent the pilot and episodes of the web series laying all these “Easter eggs” that would go so far as to be relevant in season 5 or so
like, homie, just write a book at that point lmao
If he could write, sure. Most of his scripts were patchwork of half formed ideas and concepts. He had a rigid, structured idea in his head, but he refused to communicate it to anyone, other than doling out just enough for his actors to work with in a given scene. There were scenes filmed that had no script, no place anywhere in the narrative, and yet, they were filmed, because it made sense to him.
>rigid, structured idea in his head >refused to communicate it to anyone >scenes [with] no script, no place anywhere in the narrative, and yet, they were filmed, because it made sense to him
kek
Most people really have no concept of how shit like that is done. How the "meticulous" part is actually leaving big, nebulous shit laying around that you can wrap into something that makes sense later. Especially when you're not some industry titan that can control exactly what's happening, and have to live with what actors wind up giving you, let alone the rest of the things that occur on even 3 total crew member sets.
See, YOU fricking get it. I tried to explain it to him, but no, I >lacked “vision”.
“Explain your vision to me then. So I can fix your dialog like you asked me to.” > “Oh, we’ll get there, don’t worry.”
While I probably couldn't tolerate it for more than one project, that sort of ego would be understandable from Cameron, Spielberg, etc. You have proof of concept, I'm gonna just yes you to death while looking for more work with literally anyone else.
>please just accept the shit we give you - it'll get good by season 3, goy!
>please suffer through two more seasons of shit and hopefully things will get better
surely this isn't real
link tweet or archive
https://nitter.net/theoneringnet/status/1524412130182586369#m
Jesus fricking christ. I was 99% sure this was a joke thread.
>Keep an eye out for criticisms and who's saying it
>Us real fans have been here forever and will eat this shit up cause we are true believers
>Don't listen negative complaints they're from haters who don't care about the material
God damn this Pilpul.
>us real fans
These people want nothing more than to warp and twist LoTR to fit into their own disgusting image.
Thank you for applying to the job. What are your qualifications?
>I've watched four fantasy series.
>we only want a good show made by capable artists
Yeah that’s the problem
for a big fan account they post the worst takes possible and that quote from the letter is horribly misinterpreted
they get paid for sucking wiener
perhaps they test screened it and are panicking.
>fans trying to have a say where a show should go by being loudmouths.
this is why kino is getting increasingly rarer.
What? Most shows don’t get great
>we want the GoT market
>but GoT got big within the first season
Hmm...
GoT was surging, by the time it got to Bron kicking the dude out the moondoor. That's like what? 2-3 episodes in?
GoT's audience kept increasing until season 6 then plateau'd
but only season 1 was good
>The red wedding
>Stannis the mannis
>Siege of kings landing(the first one with stannis)
>Theon torture
>The spider versus little finger shit flinging
You're lying to yourself and only yourself.
>>The red wedding
ned stark 2.0, first time was better
>>Stannis the mannis
good character but pointless plot
>>Siege of kings landing(the first one with stannis)
that one was good
>>Theon torture
ok, but not great
>>The spider versus little finger shit flinging
capeshit quips
>le contrarian post
(You)
>quips
im sick and tired of incel chuds disparaging quips
they are very entertaining
frick off zoomer
>t. brainlet ESL hands typed this post
So then you do admit there was good shit past season one?
yes, but a couple good scenes don't make a good season
So then besides Ned's death what was good about season one?
What are they talking about ? The Boys ?
any tv show made in the last ten years except Yellowstone
spoiler: all tv shows get cancelled on season 2 or 3
>it gets good after 24 hours
>Most TV shows don't get great until Season 3
They're not wrong but you're not supposed to say it loud, especially about your own show, lmao
they are wrong, most shows peak in season 1
because that's all the showrunners have to actually plan to get greenlit. shows which have more than one season planned effectively didn't even exist until the Sopranos.
>The fulminated mercury scene in Breaking Bad
>Ned Stark getting decapped
>All of Fargo S1
>The Elliot = Mr. Robot reveal
>Twin Peaks S1
You're not wrong.
>being suprised when Sean Bean's character dies
I bet a lot of people were lol
>fr fr no cap I deadass had Ned Stark decapped. being king is bussin' on gods zig mite
>westworld
>legion
etc
The tweet is correct if youre talking about sitcoms or dramas. But thats because the writers need to find a rythm and develop a voice for the characters. Only show i can think of that does the opposite is Arrested Development. Its not the same for thrillers and epics where the audience needs to be hopked right away and the show needs direction of an overall narrative.
most shows are shit throughout and the ones that arent are only good the first and maybe the second season. this is fact
It's a fan Twitter account, not affiliated with the show.
It's still a moronic statement.
>It's a fan Twitter account, not affiliated with the show.
it's a shill account, paid account
If you say so.
these garbage sounds too much like corporate talking points to me, if it was just a guy he would talk about the series, not about some corporate cope about Prime Video, lmao it's just a website for videos, not some new invention
>A lot is on the line… for everyone. Bezos’ billions. Fans relationship with Middle-earth now that Christopher Tolkien has passed on. The entire Prime Video experiment. These showrunners carry an incredibly heavy burden shaped by legacy & passion & purpose
>everybody I disagree with is a shill
Mental illness
>shill account, paid account
They have run LOTR forums since the 90s you fricking newhomosexual
Don't get me wrong I find the guy annoying but they are not on anybodies payroll. And if you want to talk about shilling you should have seen the way Jackson/New Line treated the guy who runs the site back in the day. Exclusive director interviews, set visits and tickets to every premiere.
Amazon haven't done 1/10 what Jackson did to butter those guys up, maybe they should
don't most shows not get picked up after the pilot?
lmao, GoT at least had a decent season 1, now they just produce trash and tell you to wait 3 seasons to get good
Let me guess; they're seeing the backlash against the Obi Wan show and pre-empting similar responses to their own dumpsterfire.
I fricking hope so, they're probably sweating now because they were no doubt going to deconstruct what made the LoTR trilogy great.
i think we are going to have fun posting here, so something good will come out of the series
is that what Obi Wan is doing? I thought it was just a lot of pandering shit.
Post is from May 11
Why are so many ppl even watching that disney shit?
Tolkien would hate these people having such low and consumeristic standards
Also all these media shills are assets
They're literally just a random collection of freaks. They have no authority over anything.
I canNOT wait for this shit to be released and see the endless seething and coping and whining about racism and misogyny. Amazon gets what the FRICKIN deserve
Tolkienbros, we won't stop winning
>just two more seasons
>most shows don't get great until season 3
there's not a single good show that does this, in fact they all peak in season 1 or 2
Stargate sg1
Breaking bad
Seinfeld
That was easy
your mom was easy
>Heres your hobbit goym.
>"We just got you a great role! They don't even care about skin color, so this is also a big win for diversity!"
>Dresses up like a 19th century African-American slave
not even remotely true.
most all tv shows decrease in quality with each season. very few should get more than 3 in total. amazon should not be able to use this series to avoid paying taxes when it inevitably bombs.
yes, there's only so much you can do with a character, and most of it get squeezed in season 1 and 2, the only times season 3 may be good is if the world built in the series is compelling and expansive enough that you can squeeze new character that have something to say
If you need twenty hour-long episodes to build up to something great then you're doing it wrong.
Why do you care what this guy's says? He's just a dumb Caligay in his 50s, even half the people that use his fansite find him annoying kek
What? I can't remember a single show that got great in Season 3 specifically.
The only one I can think of is Grace and Frankie
I think they’re overgeneralizing from TNG
He ought to have said 2, many shows have wobbly first seasons.
This website has a financial incentive for millions of normies to get into lotr
everybody here will watch it, but just for the laughs and the threads, and probably pirated
i dont watch things that dont interest me and i also dont watch a lot of things that do interest me
the only thing im looking forward to with this disaster is watching my moronic globohomosexual Black person loving brothers having to come up with bullshit to defend and praise it
its like twitter posts turned into a live action play
This might be true for a long running series, but with streaming shows they have to get it right the first time or there won't even be a second season.
It will get a second season no matter what, even if it's only so journos can write their "fact check: chuds said this flopped = FALSE" articles. That Batwomyn show comes to mind, show was a mess since the first episode and it still got a second season just out of spite.
still can't believe STD and Picard got so many seasons, don't know a single person who watched it except me and i dropped it after 2-3 episodes
trust the showrunners? lol how about no. trust us earned, from what I've seen of it and shilling there is absolutely nothing to warrant any trust.
Lmao what? Most shows turn to shit after the first couple of seasons.
it's not about not being great, it's about being entertaining, and then becoming great.
Waiting two seasons for greatness is one thing, having to suffer through miserable garbage for two seasons is something else.
Some of the best ST episodes, of all time, are in the first season, and the second had classics as well.
In fact, every single great TV show has had decent-good preliminary seasons, at least enough to build a solid audience until the show runners become comfortable.
Eating shit for three years, hoping one day to taste honey instead is basically what that tweete is saying.
yeah, usually series used to have to produce an entertaining and intriguing pilot to even get picked, not sure how it works now if plots even have pilots, or they just get produced even if they can't show 1 decent episode
>or they just get produced even if they can't show 1 decent episode
this is how it works now.
They buy established IP's to minimize risk of being DoA, throw money at it until it sticks with the moronic and entirely tasteless modern audience of soccer moms and capehomosexuals
oh frick this is hilarious
Most shows don't get great. They're sometimes great, and then occasionally get even better.
Most shows are cancelled before they get to season 3. Television pilots have to be designed to wow executives, because that’s what green lights them to make more. Honestly, if by the third episode your show is tanking, you’re fricked.
>wait for season 3
I worked with a guy who thought like this. Poured his heart and soul into a television pilot and accompanying web series that took him three years of filming on evenings and weekends with a volunteer crew. Had all these grand designs for later seasons, and spent the pilot and episodes of the web series laying all these “Easter eggs” that would go so far as to be relevant in season 5 or so. He never finished the pilot, or the web series. It was written, and shot, but he never got a coherent edit completed. Instead, eight years later, he’s making it into an audio drama, and rewriting the whole damn thing.
>grand designs for later seasons, and spent the pilot and episodes of the web series laying all these “Easter eggs” that would go so far as to be relevant in season 5 or so
like, homie, just write a book at that point lmao
If he could write, sure. Most of his scripts were patchwork of half formed ideas and concepts. He had a rigid, structured idea in his head, but he refused to communicate it to anyone, other than doling out just enough for his actors to work with in a given scene. There were scenes filmed that had no script, no place anywhere in the narrative, and yet, they were filmed, because it made sense to him.
>rigid, structured idea in his head
>refused to communicate it to anyone
>scenes [with] no script, no place anywhere in the narrative, and yet, they were filmed, because it made sense to him
kek
Most people really have no concept of how shit like that is done. How the "meticulous" part is actually leaving big, nebulous shit laying around that you can wrap into something that makes sense later. Especially when you're not some industry titan that can control exactly what's happening, and have to live with what actors wind up giving you, let alone the rest of the things that occur on even 3 total crew member sets.
See, YOU fricking get it. I tried to explain it to him, but no, I
>lacked “vision”.
“Explain your vision to me then. So I can fix your dialog like you asked me to.”
> “Oh, we’ll get there, don’t worry.”
While I probably couldn't tolerate it for more than one project, that sort of ego would be understandable from Cameron, Spielberg, etc. You have proof of concept, I'm gonna just yes you to death while looking for more work with literally anyone else.
They are probably prepping the fake hatemail to actors and actresses of color too so that they can once again blame the failure on hitler and trump
That's only true for sitcoms and comedies, dramas (especially dramas that start on streaming sites) tend trail off after the first couple of seasons.
>most TV shows
Don't get past season 1.