>Jesus was only 33 when he became God
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What do you mean "became God"? They're the same person.
a father and a son can't be the same person
They can't, if they're human. If you think Jesus was human, then you're not even religious, so why even bring them up.
why did he talk to and about a 'father' then? why was he asking questions to god about his mission if he was god?
Feel free to quote The Bible if you think they were different people. I have a nice quote right here.
>My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”
John 10:27-30
This was said by Jesus himself, by the way.
But if they see the "same" entity, doesn't that diminish the sacrifice of God's only son etc.?
That image isn't even readable. Anyway, I'm filtering the thread now, because I wouldn't speak to Cinemaphile about religion. Everyone here is both unintelligent and evil. Please speak to each other while I look at the few threads I have on the board.
keep believing in santa
You can reverse image search to find the full version since there are so many contradictions in the bible, the image that lists them all won't fit on Cinemaphile's Cinemaphile board due to image limits.
Why on earth would you post in a place you consider to be unintelligent and evil unless you too are unintelligent and evil?
>why would someone who believes in something defend it
the cognitive level of zoomer atheists, I swear... You guys didnt grow up with the le four horsemen "intellectuals" so you dont even have good arguments. Very sad
>why would someone who believes in something defend it
That's not what he asked you tho. He asked why you would post in a place you consider to be unintelligent and evil. He's got you there tbh. There's nothing more cringe than a Cinemaphilener who acts like he's above it all.
It's what typical Christians act like when they get cornered- they have total meltdowns and begin to start hurling insults.
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Lol stop acting tough, if you're such a man debate me right now and I'll slap around your anonymous gospels.
Wow you're such a smart guy wanting to debate someones religious beliefs that can't possibly be proven or disproven not matter how many fedoras you put on and how euphoric you get.
It is kind of curious how it's only christianity that gets your panties in a bunch and you would never try to argue with a muslim or daoist or whatever because at the end of the day you don't really give a shit about religion or belief in a higher power you just hate that your mommy made you attend sunday school or made you go to church or whatever.
>you can't debate religious beliefs because they can't be proven or disproven
>but trannies claiming to be born in the wrong body are definitely certifiably wrong
your average neo-Cinemaphilener, everyone
>shits pants
>burns his micropenis with hot oil
>says a prayer to dawkins
>uploads a jpg that cant even be read
the state of atheists
>John
Might as well read Jesus fanfiction
Think of it like god splitting off a piece of himself, making it live as human to show people he was willing to engage them on their level and not as some unseen entity. The piece that was now human only understood as a human would, asking its "father" for clarity
well said
any proof?
Read the book, its all there. What will really throw you for a loop is when you realize that not only is this god dude pulling off a chunk of himself to live as human, he's also got this holy spirit spooking around delivering the chunk into a chicks womb, and the spirit is himself as well
harry potter is also a book
Harry Potter, however, wasn't written by God. It was written by a woman, therefore it isn't true.
>dragon ball was written by goku
Dragon Ball was written by a yellow slant. Odd that you've mixed up an author and their characters.
Worms cannot do that. That is a childhood myth. Looks like you've still got a lot of learning to do.
>the bible was written by God
>Odd that you've mixed up an author and their characters
Yes, the Bible was written by God, that's what makes it unique. You seem to be having some difficulty here, have you considered discussing remedial schooling with your parent/guardian?
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=who+wrotte+the+bible
>the Bible was written by God
this is just what you believe, you can't prove it
it is like believing santa is real
>"god is no different than santa" argument
lmao can we just skip to the part where you ask why there were no dinosaurs in the bible too?
is lmao your answer?
prove god wrote the bible
Prove who did
I would assume a human like literally any other book?
Oh so you're assuming, you don't actually know?
Yes I don't know. How does that prove god wrote it again? You just believe he did. Like any other religion people just lie to themselves that something is true when they just don't know.
If you don't know then how can you be sure he didn't?
If he knew everything and was actually infinitely smarter than everyone else, he would have waited until youtube or something better existed to document his history, so there would be no question who made it.
I mean that's my stance on religion I think its called Agnosticism or something.
We don't know where we came for, what our purpose is and where we are going after death, if there is a god or not. We just don't know.
I didn't say he doesn't exist. But I need proof to believe and convert. I haven't found any and you can't show me any either.
There is a reason its called faith
There is a reason they are called cults.
How does that differ from being a schizo and thinking there's ghosts in your room?
Just because many people do it doesn't make it any better in my POV.
If you feel content with your religion that's fine but I hate when people shove their "faith" down people's throats and acting all high and might like they found the answer. Just keep it to yourself and don't try and spread your "faith".
You say people are shoving it down your throat, you were the one that asked
No, someone asserted it first, then he asked them to prove it.
Yes, he asked them to prove it while he himself stated he didn't know if it was written by god or not. He doesn't know. But he has faith that it wasn't
No he said he doesn't know, not that he has faith either way, the only thing he seems to have faith in is that you can't provide proof because of how often you faithful people have demonstrated a complete inability to back up your fantastical claims.
He admitted he didn't know, but he admits others have faith
I accept you concession.
Considering the time frame of certain books surely you aren't going to pretend that isn't sus?
A bunch of israelite goat shaggers who couldn't even read the stars and lived like barbarians compared to Phoenicians, Egyptians, Babilonians and Assyrians.
Then big brained latin and greek gigachads added a sprinkle of much needed metaphysics to it, courtesy of Plato and Plotin, it was codified at Nikaea, and the rest is history.
You're welcome.
Santa is real though, you see him walking around everywhere at the end of the year
this is like pre-youtube atheist 2005 ICQ argumentation. Pathetic, holy shit
Christ existed. That's the proof. Also if youre a moron materialist: the shroud of turin
>argumentation
Its not an argument, its you clearly describing your god as having the qualities of a worm.
He as though since worms are the ones that get cut into pieces and regenerate more worms from the pieces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planarian#Regeneration
Wrong again.
>links to wikipedia
I'm sorry, this is a serious discussion, not a propaganda battle.
If you clone yourself, its an incarnation of you, but it is not *you*. Why do atheists have such a hard time wrapping their head around this concept when they readily accept in in star trek philosowank all the time?
yeah the thing is no one believes star trek is a real story
>God put his mind into an altered carbon sleeve to see if He could live up to His own rules or if He was being too harsh on humanity
>He passed His own tests
>His own preachers fail the shit-test so hard that He changes the covenant to all of humanity and explicitly disowns the israelites
>jews have been pissed ever since
unbelievable levels of kino
Very well put, I don't think I saw a clearer summary.
So you worship a worm?
>intentionally misinterprets the post
>thinks this is an argument
I didn't misinterpret anything, anon clearly described a worm when he said his god could be cut into pieces and each piece would become a god of their own, while still retaining the features of the original worm.
Anon was not 'clearly' describing a worm, that is your deliberate, low-IQ misinterpretation of his post, which was explicitly about God. You're not even honest with yourself, how can you expect anyone else to take you seriously?
>anon clearly described a worm when he said his god could be cut into pieces and each piece would become a god of their own, while still retaining the features of the original worm.
Hmmm...
>Think of it like god splitting off a piece of himself, making it live as human to show people he was willing to engage them on their level and not as some unseen entity. The piece that was now human only understood as a human would, asking its "father" for clarity
That’s Partialism, Jesus is fully God not just a part of Him
Jesus was God made flesh, except he wasn't really flesh because the flesh can't help but sin. No man is capable of not winning therefore Jesus was not a man. God sent...himself? To die...although not really because he came back...only as a loophole for his dumb D&D rules he himself set up. Christianity makes less than zero sense, it's literally catnip for people who can't think critically.
He sent himself to offer people salvation. Try to live rightly, admit your faults and ask for forgiveness. He offered people a path they didn't know they had
Your sin has to go somewhere. Christ's perfect sacrifice settled the account.
1 + -1 = 0
Basic math. Salvation is there if you put your faith in Jesus.
No because it didn't come from anywhere.
1+1 only applies to concrete countable objects not vague ideas that infinitely morph and split.
>hurr durr I'm being moronic
perfect sacrifice cancels out all sin. what's so hard to understand
The part where sin can come from a perfect creator in the first place.
Sin did not come from the Creator even it's word origins is something along the lines of "missing the mark"
Sin is separating yourself from God and disobeying God. Sin is not a part of God. Sin is the lack of God.
You are disobeying Go by believing what has been told you to by anonymous writers and an apostate
Ah, you have no interest in conversation and just a butthurt fedora. You could've told me sooner and wasted less of our time.
I'm not an atheist, I'm a Muslim. Why are you so scared? If you have no interest in a conversation why are you replying? Why the frick are you even in this thread? Did you think slobbering some bullshit from your anonymous gospels will achieve something? What a joke.
If you can separate yourself from god, god is neither perfect nor omnipotent.
>says who?
>uhh.. says my reddit tier theology and headcanon because I want to justify being a sodomite
Try again lol you sound like your 12
Says the definitions of perfect and omnipotent which include everything rather than just whatever things didn't choose to separate.
>Your sin has to go somewhere
How stupid are you to limit what God can do?
Jesus was literally human. He calls HIMSELF son of man.
Jesus being human is a foundational tenet of every major Christian sect.
FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN
He sure bled and died like a human.
one of them arian heretics
this kino is full of plot holes wtf
>the kino is full of plot holes
>on purpose
This man gets it.
Happy Death Day 2u, Halloween and Pearl all do this. It seems to be a trait only 5/5 absolute kinos can pull off.
>Anno Domini 2024
>still getting filtered by the Trinity
Its not that hard chief
High quality bait
somewhere between 12 and 30 when he had a spiritual revelation under the tutelage of mystic rabbis
>what is hypostatis
fully human and fully god
I love the israeli lore about him killing people with his gaze as an angsty kid
>hypostatis
just a name for the assertion, not an argument for the assertion. Wasn't even 'officially' settled on until hundreds of years after jesus died, was bordering on revisionism at the time. Catholicism is for cucks, tailored by an emerging organized priest class for their own ends.
>Charlemagne I hereby crown you holy roman emperor on the authority of uhhh me, yes I know you like wearing the purple cape like a real roman, now please kill these bad guys for me
He was only 27 when he invented the table
Very Cinemaphile post
all dogs go to heaven
even your mom
Actually animals can't go to heaven, because they don't have souls.
they have souls but they aren't eternal
>bro doesnt know about the animal soul
https://ccel.org/ccel/aquinas/gentiles/gentiles.v.lxiii.html
The CG colouring of the eyes in this film was so distractingly bad.
prove it.
What if God was one of us
It was god's Turing test. He wanted to see whether it was possible for men to match god's level of wisdom, and they failed. And since his little VR experience showed him what a mess his creation had become, he offered them free returns. Does this sound reddit?
No, He was testing His own rules as outlined in
and passed, so there's no excuse for any of us to not also live up to it.
reminder that the most religious people are the ones with the lowest iqs (latin americans, africans, muslims...)
Yes but how old was the Holy Spirit when It became God?
>why did jesus have so many followers?
>because on the third day he was already rizzin
Religion (any religion really) is the biggest cope in human history.
second only to you thinking you're a real woman of course (you aren't)
nope, the second biggest cope is believeing every person that says something contradicting with my believes is a troony
>believes
its over for you, ESL
Atheism is the biggest cope of all. The most harmful to both society and the individual, as well. There is simply nothing more destructive to the human experience than static materialism.
atheism is accepting things as they are, believing in eternal life is just a way of coping with the fear of death
That's very much incorrect. Atheism is very much the communism of religions; no atheist practices what his tenets claim, and each time it has been exercised has been a total disaster.
Except they definitely practice not worshiping supernatural beings and since that is the only tenet of atheist, you are obviously wrong.
They practice destroying humans and children. Atheists DO worship a supernatural being: Satan. They worship him through every one of their actions.
>atheism is accepting things as they are
Atheists believe human beings are a clump of soulless cells, and therefore aim to treat you as such. They believe individuals have no rights, no guarantee to life, no essence of sanctity that grants them anything above the right of the State to govern. Atheism is an utter disaster for humanity, a literal mind virus that leads any who practice it to destruction.
>static materialism.
Not a necessary belief of atheism, though.
>50 years of observable decline and decay of western culture coinciding 1:1 with an abandonment of religion
>"but actually religion is the problem though"
how delusional are these people? You are literally living in John Lennon's "Imagine" and you're miserable. Self-reflect more than not at all please
actually I rather have a christian society than a woke, but that doesn't make candyland real
>I want the benefits of a christian society but I dont want to participate in it
great, now multiply your dumb, selfish, materialist thought process by a few hundred million and you get the western world right now. homosexual
Except that every president, every supreme court justice, and pretty much every congressperson in the last 50 years has been religious to extremely religious.
>america = the western world
>politicians saying they are religious must be taken at face value as politicans are never cynical or lying
what is this 2011-era youtube atheist argumentation?
Numerous other western countries even have a state religion.
So religion in general is bad because anyone, including politician, can pretend to believe in them and exploit the congregations?
>he thinks christians are making policies in the USA
lol, lmao even
Yes, everyone knows for a fact the religious people overturned roe vs wade because abortion goes against catholicism and the majority of justices are catholic.
Roe v wade was overturned because it was unconstitutional, nothing in the constitution ever granted the right to abortion and it was simply returned to the states which is the correct status
Arbuable with freedom of assembly and association and privacy and no unlawful search and seizure, but the definitely constitution grants checks and balances and where judges create common law and roe vs wade was a matter of judicial decree from the supreme court which didn't get overturned until the supreme court was captured by judges who share a common religious institution which should not have been allowed because of constitutional separation of church and state.
>the ruling was wrong but it took religious people to notice it and correct it
maybe it had less to do with them being religious and more originalists and not fricking morons
Sure, its just a coincidence that they only went after the thing that goes against catholicism and didn't address the unconstitutionality of drug scheduling that has damaged the economy to the tune of trillions of dollars.
>unconstitutionality of drug scheduling
which amendment prevents that?
Freedom to Peacefully Assemble applies to your own brain chemistry.
Freedom to Peacefully Associate applies to plants and animals, as well as other people.
>Freedom to Peacefully Associate applies to plants and animals
oh right i'm arguing with a schitzo now your takes on roe v wade make sense, ciao
If they actually cared about getting rid of dangerous plant, they would outlaw plants like belladonna that have no real use other than poison instead of plants that can be used recreationally and to subvert a captured monetary system.
No its why they can't outlaw owning pitbulls, so it obviously applies to animals, why wouldn't it apply to all living creatures?
If the right to assembly applies to animals then they cannot be deprived of life or liberty without trial so is eating them unconstitutional?
That was freedom of association that lets you own whatever animal you want, animals aren't citizens, but citizens can constitutionally associate with whatever people, animals, ideas, colors, etc that they want to as long as its done peacefully.
>animals aren't citizens
correct, which is why the amendments dont apply to them
It applies to the citizen's ability to keep any animals they want as long as it can be done peacefully, not to the animal itself since the animal is not a citizen and doesn't have the rights of one.
You have zero idea why Roe v. Wade was overturned and are still throwing an incel tantrum about it.
AIPAC isn’t even in the list of top 100 lobbyist groups by donations. The cleaning chemicals industry gives more to congress by several times over. Go on opensecrets if you don’t believe me. They’re a huge boogeyman.
The fact that AIPAC is so influential despite not giving as much is a testament to their influence, that's like thinking that Israel holds no geopolitical power because they receive aid from the US.
The ADL sponsored the advertiser ban against Musk and 2 months later they trotted him out to auschwitz by the collar with ben shapiro. You also don't get elected to any of the three branches without the approval of aipac
>Its not an argument, its you clearly describing your god as having the qualities of a worm.
"I'm being wrong and stubborn on PURPOSE please take me seriously"
Nope you were provably wrong, worms do regenerate each piece when cut into pieces and that is exactly how you described your god.
I'm sorry, this is false. You've been deceived by a collapsing education system.
No, you were even provide proof that is false.
Here is more.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/20/science/worm-regeneration.html
Bros how do I become genuinely religious? I find religion megaKINO and read about it a lot but I can't seem to bring myself all the way. I see some of these truly devout people around me and wish I had that certainty and energy.
You're a materialist, so investigate the authenticity of the shroud of turin. your skeptical inclinations will make you realise that the only rational explanation is that Christ existed, He was our saviour, and he died for your sins.
t. same process
Thanks bros
>shroud of turin
Why is this memed so much? Scientific dating says it was made much later. Also why does the shroud have a 2D image of a 3D person? If you lay a cloth on a person if should superimpose a 3D image.
I'm a Christian but the shroud does not have me convinced
Just start attending services. Try to understand the lessons taught, the morality that is being conveyed. See that it is there to help you live a better life by treating others around you well. And at its heart its about treating yourself well, and not doing things you know are self destructive. Religion at its core is people wanting to improve themselves, and doing it as a group
>hates Black folk, women, israelites, minorities in general, poor people, hobos
>claims he's a christian
Every fricking time
Where did I claim to be christian? Where did I say I hated anyone? Some big assumptions there
This whole fricking christian larp going on on Cinemaphile since 2010 or something is moronic, guys here hate everyone, they make threads celebrating layoffs and people being fired, they post threads to shit on dead people or raped women, so no I'm not gonna accept they're real Christians.
They showed up when JIDF and CTR did, they aren't genuine anons, they are paid shills who just spout their whatever nonsense they are told to in order to further the religious lobby's narrative.
Read Aquinas
SO true
(keep in mind that Aquinas was a pre-schismatic Church father; his teachings apply to all sects of Christianity, not just Catholicism)
By practice. People then just went to the church with varying degrees of success. Now you can get education with internet, just by understanding the 7 vices and 7 virtues and how your actions make you closer or further from god depending on how you conduct yourself and how you tame your heart.
It doesn't get more kino than that, accepting Jesus Christ into your heart is not about going on your knees and crying, it's hard gruesome work that changes you, it takes year.
What matters if the heart, you are changing, just by asking this on this chinese forum, you are on the path of redemption, i'm too. It's hard. Anger... Lust.... Laziness too prevalent in our society.
You need to be saved first. Then you can educate yourself with Biblical and Christian material as guided by the Holy Spirit which you will receive if you genuinely believe in the work of Christ Jesus
How to be saved:
Start pirating stuff.
Jesus was only 33 when he pirated those bread to his followers
>mfw Marcionism heretics in /teevee/
>Nope you were provably wrong, worms do regenerate each piece when cut into pieces and that is exactly how you described your god.
Why did Jesus make me gay?
because he hates you
Why tho? I didn’t ask to be born this way
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was homosexual, and he was talking about you
Mel Gibson movie was probably the best Jesus movie ever made. Second comes Franco Zefirelli's;
>2024
>Christians still have no proof of a good
>Dude trust me. Jesus totally died for our sins. Give us all your money to build on our "culture" and groom your child
How is anyone supposed to take these quacks seriously? People died for this shit.
why did thomas ask to see his butthole?
Lol I have been dismantling the NT for a while and not a single Christian can respond- other than calling me a demon and inventing their own stories to cope.
Most Christians hold the KJV as the true Bible but even the writers of the KJV copied off a guy called tindsdale or some shit.
I liked him better when he was called Dionysus
i turn 33 in 5 days
even though though i don't completely adhere to the to the Catholic faith after going to their schools after several years I'm still gravitated to it
it's all kinds of fricked up within me and i truly don't know how to move forward
You can be a Christian without worshiping the Pope or doing blasphemous shit like praying to Saint Aldervecci, the patron saint of frying eggs after being martyred by chickens.
What would you rather they have done? Stand in the way? Join in?
Just stand aside like a normal human instead of running around in panic like a vampire or a headless chicken comes to mind.
digits and Jesus was real, was the son of God and died for our sins
The digit of man which must mean that jesus aka the lightbearer is actually satan.
Nice try, who told you Jesus was the son of God? The anonymous gospels? Or Paul the apostate? The israelites who subverted your theology in the numerous councils? Particularly the Council of Nicaea?
Raymond E. Brown, recognized as one of the world's leading New Testament scholars, professor emeritus of biblical studies in New York, recipient of more than 30 awards from Catholic and Protestant universities worldwide, president of several societies for biblical studies in the United States and Europe, called by two popes to serve on the Pontifical Biblical Commission, states in his book "What do we know about the New Testament?", page 43, the following:
"None of the gospels mentions an author by name, and it is quite possible that none was written by the person whose name it bears, according to a tradition dating from the end of the 2nd century (which implies that the 4 gospels had no title for almost 2 centuries).
Apparently muslims don't have likenesses of muhammad peace be upon him because they are against idolatry and he was just a prophet, not because he's too sacred or some shit. Unlike the israelites who think that they are too imperfect to pronounce the name of god properly. Neurotic little guys.
Yes that is why the Muhammad (PBUH) was not depicted. It's easy for humans to fall victim to idolatry- you see that shit even in Islam particularly in South Asian countries- this all boils down to a lack of education, grooming and the mixing of cultural values which have nothing to do with what's taught in Islam.
did Jesus die for all of our sins? including the ones i did last night when i took it up the butt?
Jesus died for these dubs
CHRIST IS RISEN
Amen!
Christcucks once again gone silent when faced with someone who actually has the knowledge to dismantle their bullshit NT.
is there anything more stupid than faith
why cant we call it a lie instead
the bible is the ultimate ideological subversion but it's intergenerational subversions, as religions primary subjugants are the ones in immediate proximity to the propogator of the propaganda.. parents and children. Children are the primary victims of religion. It's saturnian, its about supressing the health of your children so you can live a long indulgent life. It's boomers incapsulated.