>John Reddit
I love how the first movie got endlessly praised for its realism in how John got tired and his enemies could get the upper hand on him but at this point he's survived so much shit he's practically just pure capeshit
As someone who loved these films, they fricking ruined anyone trying to do spectacle based action. Now you get the action-genre version of art-gays screeching "muh realism" everywhere.
Also the lore is just ridiculous now. Like how he could enter a random taxi cab, give him a assassin coin, and the random cabbie was in the know? So is every taxi driver involved in the assassin underworld?
And how many assassins there are. Literally one on every block just hanging out
>And how many assassins there are. Literally one on every block just hanging out
It's not that much of a stretch. You ever been around during an active shooter situation or when a foreign dignitary is in town being transported or when some sort of mass casualty event or natural disaster is occurring? You'd be shocked by how many cars there are in the city which look like any other busted civilian car or taxi that light up at a moment's notice with strobes and red and blue lights and go speeding toward the emergency. There are all sorts of crazy shit going on around you every day that you're never aware of.
Yeah the first one is my favorite for that. It's just been getting more and more ridiculous as time has gone on, not just with John Wick but the setting as a whole.
Tbh this. Let’s go full fan service and just do it already.
Shit make her the chick who he falls in love with and finally “ends it” with in 5. Who gives a shit, give me gnarly action scenes, choreographed gunplay and cool lighting schemes
>This series has just became so wild and out there (in a good way) that I almost wanna see how bizarre and hokey it can get
I basically said the same thing earlier. It started as something different and now I just want to see how absurd it can go and still keep me even mildly believing in it as a film. I saw him blast someone with dragon's breath and grinned because I know it's probably going to be for no reason like many of the other spectacularly brutal kills that random operators suffer.
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Gay plebbit mentality "its just so wacky! What will they do next??? Just like my cartoons and superheroes!!!"
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If John Wick is Reddit what's the Cinemaphile action series?
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machete
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The Terminal List
Uninspired shit you've seen a dozen times before.
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The first 3 Die Hard movies.
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The Raid 1/2
Dredd
Cruise Kino (Mission Impossible 4-8, Live Die Repeat, Top Gun 2)
Fury Road
John Wick 2
the 2010s+ are the best action decade since the 60s don't fricking @me
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>John Wick 2
Anyone got that webm of the suppressors in the subway?
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one of the greatest scenes of all time.
Dredd came out 14 years ago and none of the follow-up projects ever picked up steam. It's a great movie but you can't just toss that shit in there like it's on anyone's mind. Same thing with the Raid and Fury Road disappeared right after it came out and was scientifically proven to be reddit.
Fury Road isn't reddit at all. It was a top 10 film of the decade on Cahers Du Cinema's list for 2010s. Redditors are incapable of understanding it, similar to women and Master & Commander.
I listed all the genuinely good action films of the last decade. I don't care if they are franchises that are still alive or not. They are good fricking action films and offer a kinographic lexicon of action purity for the modern era.
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Dredd came out 14 years ago and none of the follow-up projects ever picked up steam. It's a great movie but you can't just toss that shit in there like it's on anyone's mind. Same thing with the Raid and Fury Road disappeared right after it came out and was scientifically proven to be reddit.
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Production studios are dumb as shit
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>60’s >2010’s
80’s protein shit on both decades with ease
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Go east if you're looking for action
Raid
13 assassins
That Muay Thai movie series, i don't remember the exact name
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>Muay Thai movie series
It's called Ong Bak.
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>I don't like it so it's reddit and gah wahhhh
I want to see how far it goes before I can't take it anymore. I don't give a frick what you think about it
Zoomers and millennials are like bears tied to posts who grew up tied to the post and assume it's still all powerful even when they become big enough to easily break free
All they want to do is play Far Cry 31 and watch John Wick 7 and a reboot of Star Black folk and an "adaptation" of Gay homosexual Superhero
I was born in '90 so millennial, liked the first John Wick but after that let's have a new story/characters. HW is so obsessed right now with raping the same IP until it's long dead and no one with a brain gives a shit, but the movies still manage to profit on name recognition. It's a pretty disgusting model.
There is some truth to that, but it's not like franchises being milked to death is a new thing either. I think it mostly just has to do with companies being more and more terrified at doing something different and just sticking to making the same exact thing over and over.
End of the day they are businesses. They want to make money. With as little risk as possible.
And mainstream cinema is the same as pop music. It's simple, conventional widely accessible, easy consumption for the masses.
And it's the same as fast food.
Pretty much everything that is widely popular has the same characteristics
I do think it's worth asking why this has become so bad recently though. In terms of reusing IPs I mean. Almost nothing that comes out is "original" anymore, it's all sequels, prequels, reboots etc. What shift happened that caused that, because it certainly didn't used to be the case.
It's always basically been like this. Now everything falls into existing universes if not being just a sequence of mainline sequels to a single IP. In the past it was just a bunch of movies ripping off breakout successful movies with worse budgets and worse executions. You can either have endless sequels or endless low quality copies. In the end you're only going to get 20 or 30 standout movies in both quality box office earnings per decade with a handful having lasting cultural impact. The rest is going to be endless sequeltrash or other generic popcorn flicks.
1 was the only good one but i'll watch 4 because this shlock is better than most of the other shit hollywood puts out >inb4 NO YOU CANT LIKE THINGS CONSOOMER
I did
You gays are the reason we don't get new original stories like John Wick 1 more often. >le epic action with the same characters and situations, over and over and over!!
Play Call of Duty if that's what you want. Movies aren't for you.
lmao Kill Bill is literally a patchwork of QT's favorite scenes from various films.
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So it has references? Interesting. Name one other film in cinema history that remotely resembles what it does as a whole.
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Lady Snowblood, you uncultured homosexual. QT would call you a fricking idiot for this post.
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>an influence is a ripoff
Except nothing in the plot of Lady Snowblood, outside of a general female revenge theme, appears in Kill Bill whatsoever.
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https://wiki.tarantino.info/index.php/Kill_Bill_References_Guide
The entire film is nothing but references and entirely lifted scenes. Quentin Tarantino is pretty open about how he made Kill Bill.
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Kill bill is utter dogshit with horrible choreography that takes you out of every scene with how badly they perform it. Women generally suck dick at action and should stick to just sucking dick, like any fans of those shit films.
>muh references mean it can't be original
You're a moron, and I love Il Mercenario. Scorsese made his whole career out of copying European masters and John Ford, does that mean none of his shit is original?
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>does that mean none of his shit is original?
ya. After Hours and The Last Temptation of Christ are his best films
by your definition liam neeson makes better films because all his movies are "original ips" even though it's literally the exact same story every fricking movie.
I think we're going to find out that Liam has a similar thing going on like Bruce Willis. He keeps doing shitty nothing movies with scripts that I doubt he even read.
>kino is good >let's run it into the ground with 5 sequels
No
You dumbasses. We still can get new stuff like the first John Wicks, what is so different now compared to 2014? What more and more sequels from the same IP actually means is just that the fights (i.e. the whole reason we see the movie) can have higher budgets each time, and, assuming the directors and choreographers don't phone it in, makes them better.
>assuming no one phones it in
Of course, nothing good can last, but it's rather simple. Would you rather something you like have a small budget or big budget?
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Nobody phoned it in in John Wick 3. What happened was actually that they tried too hard; they increased the scope and scale way too much when the stakes didn't cut it. They made John 1v2 guys from the Raid and then immediately 1v1 a boss. Fights were too long. Too intense for too long. Not enough playfulness in the editing or choreography like in 2. John was simply winning through brute force and endurance in 3 instead of outsmarting his enemies like in 2.
None of the gunfights in the series are that good tbh. CGI bullets and blood ruin it. If they had the balls to use squibs, these movies would be 10/10.
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Why have squibs gone out of fashion? Is it one of those moronic "progress of tech" thing where just because you can do something with computers now everyone switches to it because it's "more advanced", like what happened with 2d animation?
>what is so different now compared to 2014?
watch the scene where the dumb thugs beat the frick out of John and kill his dog and then watch the scene in 3 where Catwoman and Neo kill 200 pakis with the help of their cgi Airbud dogs and come out without a scratch
He got caught off-guard though. He then went on to kill the entire family and business. We going to pretend Wick was ever realistic? His name is a literal reference to Jon Woo. First movie alone he kills 80 people.
You drooling fricking mouthbreather. Bigger budgets do not mean better. The magic of John Wick came from the original, no one will remember any of these horse shit sequels.
no, the magic of John Wick came from John Wick 2 when it formed it's own identity. John Wick 1 was literally the cheapest and shittiest script they could find that the studio already owned that they could just up the body count on. John Wick 2 is from the ground up a creative and authentic auteur piece. Everything people like about John Wick was either emphasized or created in 2 directly. Everything that is unique to JW 1 is left behind and is not a part of the essence of why it's popular and is not what will be remembered.
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>. Everything people like about John Wick was either emphasized or created in 2 directly.
John wick 2 had that club scene?
1 was the only good one but i'll watch 4 because this shlock is better than most of the other shit hollywood puts out >inb4 NO YOU CANT LIKE THINGS CONSOOMER
I like the stylistic vibe to it and yeah you have to kind of turn your brain off and accept Wick lives in a world where 70% of the population are underground assassins
I did, gay. The movies keep getting sillier as they go along in all the right ways. >starts off a simple revenge story with extended gunfights >by movie 3 we are fighting motorbike riding ninjas on NYC streets and finding out the assassins and all the gold coin business goes back as far as the Hashashin
I'm going to give them more money and cause another sequel and you can't stop me
This. Every movie outdid the previous one when it comes to creative action sequences. There is nothing new and creative that they can add to the plot at this point, so they're playing their strong game
This isn't realy John Wick 4. The first movie was a bargain bin script that they 10xd the kill count in to make an action movie. They didn't start actually makign John Wick movies until John Wick 2, which is the peak of the series so far. They have an opportunity to make a capstone to the real John Wick films. 3 will function a lot better as a middle part anyway.
Perfect move by a production company- make a violence-fetishizing, toxic-masculinity promoting movie that can still be accepted and consoooomed by the feminist Reddit crowd just because the main actor le heckin wholesome guy who rides the subway.
one thing i hated about 2 is the negress at the italian hotel whose italian was inglorious basterds tier. they filmed in italy, couldn't they hire an italian or at least an italian-american?
Does anyone remember any of the Lethal Weapon sequels? None of these attempts to capitalize on the original ever result in a better movie. You could argue James Cameron came close with Alien II and Terminator II, but he significantly added to the mythology of the original. 99.5% of sequels are unnecessary dogshit.
>Does anyone remember any of the Lethal Weapon sequels?
Yes. Leathal Weapon 2 is a fricking classic in the action-comedy genre.
But yeah what they should've done is simply made more movies with the same team except with a different premise, similar to what Jackie Chan did. Different story, but that's just an excuse to do the same kind of stunt and martial arts work they're known for. Making more and more John Wick movies and expanding on the entire universe was a big mistake.
>Kino is actually popular because it's good >Contrarian /misc/cels inmediately being miserable c**ts spamming r*ddit because they are socially inept
This board is so tiresome.
A couple of days ago in a "Don't Look Up" thread some /misc/cel was defending fricking BlackRock just to "own the libs". It's so pathetic it's not even funny anymore.
>have you given any thought to when this ends
i wish someone would ask the people in charge of this movie this question. it was a fine film but in no way did it need 3 sequels
We never get these movies anymore, its oversaturated with Marvel shite. Be happy. Disney will just buy the franchise and add it to the marvel universe.
>People keep asking if I'm gay, and I haven't really had an answer. >But yeah, I'm thinking I'm gay. >So you can hand over your cum... >OR CUM SCREAMING ALONGSIDE ME
i don't even understand the plot for the movies as of now.
John was excommunicated in 2, but in 3 he got back in by meeting the old man in the desert right? But the old man doesn't supersede the council who still wants him dead?
He later violated the oath that cost him a finger thus rendering the entire thing a waste of time. He was supposed to kill Winston, instead he wasted the death squads. Then he was betrayed by Winston regardless so oops guess you should've followed orders gay. I don't really care but I can't ignore it either. The third movie was simultaneously competently done and moronic as frick
He made John Wick. John Wick, since the 2nd, really is "Chad Stehleski stunts: the movie." This is his aesthetic language. These are the movies he wants to make. The IP *is* him. I can't think of why he'd decide to artificially constrain his creativity to use a different aesthetic, story, characters, etc if all he wants to do is make fights like John Wick fights.
>BB lawyer guy is way too unbelievable as a retired killer >Doc Brown in old folks home killing hired hitmen >the homosexual villain singing Sinatra or whatever >family was boring as frick too
That film had the most Reddit ideas of what “cool” is
The comedy aspects and gags in the MI movies are better than the best shit in 95% or maybe more of modern comedies. MI2 was dogshit but everything else was very good to kino. It was hilarious rewatching MI2 for the first time since it came out originally and realizing that Woo absolutely phoned it in and just shoehorned most of Face/Off's plot into the MI universe and called it good.
Same logic for John Wick >First movie, John Wick goes against a Viggo and his goons cuz dog >Second, goes against the guy who took his house from him >Third, everyone goes against him
Muh, simple
this is the reason why I hate John Wick movies. >some dumb c**t with a BOW >jumps down on 1 man with automatic gun >shock wave of tsunami magnitude is created >2 men behind comically stumble and fall back
this is beyond fricking degeneracy. it immediately takes you out of the movie and you scream "WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FRICK IS THIS SHIT"
this is the reason why I hate John Wick movies. >some dumb c**t with a BOW >jumps down on 1 man with automatic gun >shock wave of tsunami magnitude is created >2 men behind comically stumble and fall back
this is beyond fricking degeneracy. it immediately takes you out of the movie and you scream "WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FRICK IS THIS SHIT"
Yeah what the frick was that
Look in the background. Another archer missed their timing. Hopefully they'll fix it before next year, there's plenty of time. It would take 1 evening and $200.
>nigress
moronic zoomy, Halle Berry is a national treasures. No, that isn't an ESL typo.
I couldnt finish the 3rd film. At some point the flips and judo rolls/gun-kata get repetitive and childish. >I GOTTA KILL VILLAIN #82 BECAUSE THE PLOT REQUIRES IT >I GOTTA USE ANOTHER SUPER SECRET MEANS OF DOING SOMETHING MUNDANE >I GOTTA MEAT UP WITH UNDERGROUND FIGURE PLAYED WITH A-LISTER >I GOTTA KILL FINAL BOSS
The second film was already too much.
this is the reason why I hate John Wick movies. >some dumb c**t with a BOW >jumps down on 1 man with automatic gun >shock wave of tsunami magnitude is created >2 men behind comically stumble and fall back
this is beyond fricking degeneracy. it immediately takes you out of the movie and you scream "WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FRICK IS THIS SHIT"
I only her enemies had some kind of devices that can deal with her from range. Something powerful and easy to use. IF ONLY............ but they all are doomed.
>BB lawyer guy is way too unbelievable as a retired killer >Doc Brown in old folks home killing hired hitmen >the homosexual villain singing Sinatra or whatever >family was boring as frick too
That film had the most Reddit ideas of what “cool” is
>500 men run at you with guns of all sorts and types >knock them all out with your breathe
Bravo, modern writers! I KNEEL
BRAVO!
From new trailer: >IM AN ASIAN ASSASSIN >IM GONNA JUMP YOU AND USE A BOW AND ARROW FROM 10 CM AWAYS
lol basedboys mad...just admit you guys hate the movie because normies like keanu
>just admit you guys hate the movie because normies like keanu
I admit that I dislike the 4th iteration of the same plot, which has become repetitive and uninteresting after the 2nd half of the 2nd film.
I liked the first movie but it's so tiresome at this point. The "assassin world" gimmick was fun in it because it was such a small part in it, but you can't have a "universe" from it because it's fricking stupid.
Keenu is a horrible action star, his goofy bow legged staggering walk and slow action is just dumb. How is it someone like Chris Pratt can absolutely nail his gun handling and look like he’s actually a pro at it while Keanis is so shit after all this “training” he did at gunbunny ranch?
I know this place has been a reddit hive for a long time but holy shit, the amount of morons in this thread is unreal. check out these GEMS >who wanted another 2 hours of fast-paced, masterfully choreographed action >Tbh this. Let’s go full fan service and just do it already. >Kino is actually popular because it's good >I like the stylistic vibe to it and yeah you have to kind of turn your brain off
I'm going to give them more money and cause >another sequel and you can't stop me
can't even be bothered now. too much cringe
>Best action packed series in existence makes trannies seethe
you watch a lot of cool anime I bet!
Okay we get it. You like being contrarian for the sake of pretending you're original. Just remember that 15 years down the line while I'm showing these movies to my offspring you'll still be jerking off to the 20th instalment of the Star Wars franchise.
This shit will never have a satisfying ending.
It will go on until it stops making money and then it will end in a cliffhanger.
I was fine with it being only one movie. I was kind of alright with it being 3. Now I'm done (after I pirate this one).
these movies are top tier action with great choreography
quit crying you bitter fricking gays, be happy there's something amusing on the horizon for once
All I know is I better get a lot more Lawrence Kinoburne in this movie than “You ready, John”. I already had expected him to be a bigger role in 3 and was disappointed.
The problem with the action past the first one is they make it too bombastic and it become a comedy. if you watched it carefully you can see literally that all bad guys throwing themselves to be shot by john wick, while in the first move he had to maneuver himself in tight spots hence the gun fu and make the action more believable. from 2 upward is just showing how stupid the bad guys is.
I'm glad we're getting away from realism. The best parts of these films was the action, and the creative setpieces they make have always been the most entertaining. A bunch of stunt guys getting together making crazy shit happen.
could never get over the slapstick film logic where the enemies have to be in camera shot for john wick to be able to shoot them. really ruins it for me.
>John Reddit
I love how the first movie got endlessly praised for its realism in how John got tired and his enemies could get the upper hand on him but at this point he's survived so much shit he's practically just pure capeshit
wow you are so unique and different
He does seem to have gotten a bit invincible. Still enjoyable fluff though.
literally no one cares about that, just for the action
Every action/adventure franchise that wasn't originally intended to have sequels has a problem like this
yeah, i'm think i'm black.
Each sequel is better than the last one
As someone who loved these films, they fricking ruined anyone trying to do spectacle based action. Now you get the action-genre version of art-gays screeching "muh realism" everywhere.
Realism isn't as good as a well choreographed outlandish action sequences dialled to 11.
Also the lore is just ridiculous now. Like how he could enter a random taxi cab, give him a assassin coin, and the random cabbie was in the know? So is every taxi driver involved in the assassin underworld?
And how many assassins there are. Literally one on every block just hanging out
>And how many assassins there are. Literally one on every block just hanging out
It's not that much of a stretch. You ever been around during an active shooter situation or when a foreign dignitary is in town being transported or when some sort of mass casualty event or natural disaster is occurring? You'd be shocked by how many cars there are in the city which look like any other busted civilian car or taxi that light up at a moment's notice with strobes and red and blue lights and go speeding toward the emergency. There are all sorts of crazy shit going on around you every day that you're never aware of.
Yeah the first one is my favorite for that. It's just been getting more and more ridiculous as time has gone on, not just with John Wick but the setting as a whole.
No one ever said it was realistic.
500 iq analysis right there bro
Does anyone remember the "madness" animation series from NewGrounds back in the day? the whole John Wick franchise reminds me of that.
pic rel.
>Donnie Yen
>Hiroyuki Sanada
>Scott Adkins
I can't wait for this movie.
After watching Avengement I have to say Scott Adkins is fricking kino
the boyka movies are all kino. threads about them die quickly though.
>No Carrie-Anne Moss cameo
Tbh this. Let’s go full fan service and just do it already.
Shit make her the chick who he falls in love with and finally “ends it” with in 5. Who gives a shit, give me gnarly action scenes, choreographed gunplay and cool lighting schemes
>Tbh this. Let’s go full fan service and just do it already.
You need to stop watching anime. That shit is rotting your brain
The only anime I’ve ever watched was the first two episodes of Pokémon in the late 90s, and the one with the Totoro, I’m a 31 year old boomer.
This series has just became so wild and out there (in a good way) that I almost wanna see how bizarre and hokey it can get
>This series has just became so wild and out there (in a good way) that I almost wanna see how bizarre and hokey it can get
I basically said the same thing earlier. It started as something different and now I just want to see how absurd it can go and still keep me even mildly believing in it as a film. I saw him blast someone with dragon's breath and grinned because I know it's probably going to be for no reason like many of the other spectacularly brutal kills that random operators suffer.
Gay plebbit mentality "its just so wacky! What will they do next??? Just like my cartoons and superheroes!!!"
If John Wick is Reddit what's the Cinemaphile action series?
machete
The Terminal List
Uninspired shit you've seen a dozen times before.
The first 3 Die Hard movies.
The Raid 1/2
Dredd
Cruise Kino (Mission Impossible 4-8, Live Die Repeat, Top Gun 2)
Fury Road
John Wick 2
the 2010s+ are the best action decade since the 60s don't fricking @me
>John Wick 2
Anyone got that webm of the suppressors in the subway?
one of the greatest scenes of all time.
Fury Road isn't reddit at all. It was a top 10 film of the decade on Cahers Du Cinema's list for 2010s. Redditors are incapable of understanding it, similar to women and Master & Commander.
I listed all the genuinely good action films of the last decade. I don't care if they are franchises that are still alive or not. They are good fricking action films and offer a kinographic lexicon of action purity for the modern era.
Dredd came out 14 years ago and none of the follow-up projects ever picked up steam. It's a great movie but you can't just toss that shit in there like it's on anyone's mind. Same thing with the Raid and Fury Road disappeared right after it came out and was scientifically proven to be reddit.
Production studios are dumb as shit
>60’s
>2010’s
80’s protein shit on both decades with ease
Go east if you're looking for action
Raid
13 assassins
That Muay Thai movie series, i don't remember the exact name
>Muay Thai movie series
It's called Ong Bak.
>I don't like it so it's reddit and gah wahhhh
I want to see how far it goes before I can't take it anymore. I don't give a frick what you think about it
Literally who?
This. It's honestly why I'm looking forward to this one in particular.
Wasn’t interested until reading this then going back up and watching the trailer. Looks much better than whatever Marvel is shitting out next.
This franchise has zero right being as good as it is
It's largely influenced by indonesian action movies. Though it's not just ripping it since they actually hire a lot of the guys involved in those.
I'm all for martial arts movies moving into more kinetic action. Anything that gets stuff like The Night Comes for Us funded is great.
>It's largely influenced by indonesian action movies
You mean hong kong, Korean thrillers? This feels nothing like those indonesian movies.
>The Same Shit: AGAIN
Who the frick really wanted this?
Zoomers and millennials are like bears tied to posts who grew up tied to the post and assume it's still all powerful even when they become big enough to easily break free
All they want to do is play Far Cry 31 and watch John Wick 7 and a reboot of Star Black folk and an "adaptation" of Gay homosexual Superhero
I was born in '90 so millennial, liked the first John Wick but after that let's have a new story/characters. HW is so obsessed right now with raping the same IP until it's long dead and no one with a brain gives a shit, but the movies still manage to profit on name recognition. It's a pretty disgusting model.
I’m a millennial and this is a great post. Few make me laugh like this did, thank you.
There is some truth to that, but it's not like franchises being milked to death is a new thing either. I think it mostly just has to do with companies being more and more terrified at doing something different and just sticking to making the same exact thing over and over.
This.
End of the day they are businesses. They want to make money. With as little risk as possible.
And mainstream cinema is the same as pop music. It's simple, conventional widely accessible, easy consumption for the masses.
And it's the same as fast food.
Pretty much everything that is widely popular has the same characteristics
I do think it's worth asking why this has become so bad recently though. In terms of reusing IPs I mean. Almost nothing that comes out is "original" anymore, it's all sequels, prequels, reboots etc. What shift happened that caused that, because it certainly didn't used to be the case.
It's always basically been like this. Now everything falls into existing universes if not being just a sequence of mainline sequels to a single IP. In the past it was just a bunch of movies ripping off breakout successful movies with worse budgets and worse executions. You can either have endless sequels or endless low quality copies. In the end you're only going to get 20 or 30 standout movies in both quality box office earnings per decade with a handful having lasting cultural impact. The rest is going to be endless sequeltrash or other generic popcorn flicks.
The art of making a fast food film has been so much more refined now
>who wanted another 2 hours of fast-paced, masterfully choreographed action
How gay are you?
You gays are the reason we don't get new original stories like John Wick 1 more often.
>le epic action with the same characters and situations, over and over and over!!
Play Call of Duty if that's what you want. Movies aren't for you.
>revenge flick
>original
lol
So because the plot involves revenge, the character of John Wick and his mythology aren't original? Frick off.
Nothing in John Wick is original. Just well executed.
So Kill Bill wasn't original either huh? Moron.
(you)
Kill Bill was a dumbass gender swapped Punisher movie. Simple as.
Nobody remembers any of the shitty Punisher films, moron. Kill Bill is a fricking classic.
lmao Kill Bill is literally a patchwork of QT's favorite scenes from various films.
So it has references? Interesting. Name one other film in cinema history that remotely resembles what it does as a whole.
Lady Snowblood, you uncultured homosexual. QT would call you a fricking idiot for this post.
>an influence is a ripoff
Except nothing in the plot of Lady Snowblood, outside of a general female revenge theme, appears in Kill Bill whatsoever.
https://wiki.tarantino.info/index.php/Kill_Bill_References_Guide
The entire film is nothing but references and entirely lifted scenes. Quentin Tarantino is pretty open about how he made Kill Bill.
Kill bill is utter dogshit with horrible choreography that takes you out of every scene with how badly they perform it. Women generally suck dick at action and should stick to just sucking dick, like any fans of those shit films.
>Literally uses music from other better movies
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>muh references mean it can't be original
You're a moron, and I love Il Mercenario. Scorsese made his whole career out of copying European masters and John Ford, does that mean none of his shit is original?
>does that mean none of his shit is original?
ya. After Hours and The Last Temptation of Christ are his best films
Again as said before, it was well executes
by your definition liam neeson makes better films because all his movies are "original ips" even though it's literally the exact same story every fricking movie.
I think we're going to find out that Liam has a similar thing going on like Bruce Willis. He keeps doing shitty nothing movies with scripts that I doubt he even read.
I hope he's just doing as many action movies as possible before he's too old to do so instead of something seriously being wrong with him
You dumbasses. We still can get new stuff like the first John Wicks, what is so different now compared to 2014? What more and more sequels from the same IP actually means is just that the fights (i.e. the whole reason we see the movie) can have higher budgets each time, and, assuming the directors and choreographers don't phone it in, makes them better.
3 had a higher budget than 2 and the fist fights and gun fights were all worse
>assuming no one phones it in
Of course, nothing good can last, but it's rather simple. Would you rather something you like have a small budget or big budget?
Nobody phoned it in in John Wick 3. What happened was actually that they tried too hard; they increased the scope and scale way too much when the stakes didn't cut it. They made John 1v2 guys from the Raid and then immediately 1v1 a boss. Fights were too long. Too intense for too long. Not enough playfulness in the editing or choreography like in 2. John was simply winning through brute force and endurance in 3 instead of outsmarting his enemies like in 2.
None of the gunfights in the series are that good tbh. CGI bullets and blood ruin it. If they had the balls to use squibs, these movies would be 10/10.
Why have squibs gone out of fashion? Is it one of those moronic "progress of tech" thing where just because you can do something with computers now everyone switches to it because it's "more advanced", like what happened with 2d animation?
>what is so different now compared to 2014?
watch the scene where the dumb thugs beat the frick out of John and kill his dog and then watch the scene in 3 where Catwoman and Neo kill 200 pakis with the help of their cgi Airbud dogs and come out without a scratch
He got caught off-guard though. He then went on to kill the entire family and business. We going to pretend Wick was ever realistic? His name is a literal reference to Jon Woo. First movie alone he kills 80 people.
You drooling fricking mouthbreather. Bigger budgets do not mean better. The magic of John Wick came from the original, no one will remember any of these horse shit sequels.
no, the magic of John Wick came from John Wick 2 when it formed it's own identity. John Wick 1 was literally the cheapest and shittiest script they could find that the studio already owned that they could just up the body count on. John Wick 2 is from the ground up a creative and authentic auteur piece. Everything people like about John Wick was either emphasized or created in 2 directly. Everything that is unique to JW 1 is left behind and is not a part of the essence of why it's popular and is not what will be remembered.
>. Everything people like about John Wick was either emphasized or created in 2 directly.
John wick 2 had that club scene?
There are literally hundreds of original flicks out there. You're just dumb, looking for something somewhere where it ought not to exist
Seconded.
Like trying to find a Michelin star dish in a Mcdonalds
1 was the only good one but i'll watch 4 because this shlock is better than most of the other shit hollywood puts out
>inb4 NO YOU CANT LIKE THINGS CONSOOMER
I did
It really does look like EXACTLY the same film as 3
Only 1 was good
I like the stylistic vibe to it and yeah you have to kind of turn your brain off and accept Wick lives in a world where 70% of the population are underground assassins
I did, gay. The movies keep getting sillier as they go along in all the right ways.
>starts off a simple revenge story with extended gunfights
>by movie 3 we are fighting motorbike riding ninjas on NYC streets and finding out the assassins and all the gold coin business goes back as far as the Hashashin
I'm going to give them more money and cause another sequel and you can't stop me
This. Every movie outdid the previous one when it comes to creative action sequences. There is nothing new and creative that they can add to the plot at this point, so they're playing their strong game
me
me.
This isn't realy John Wick 4. The first movie was a bargain bin script that they 10xd the kill count in to make an action movie. They didn't start actually makign John Wick movies until John Wick 2, which is the peak of the series so far. They have an opportunity to make a capstone to the real John Wick films. 3 will function a lot better as a middle part anyway.
what the frick. Cinemaphile for a few years was in agreement that 2 was the weakest. Now you guys are being contrarian again? good I agree
Looks great.
Me.
Who wouldn't want more 90 minutes of Keanu shooting people in the face?
I just hope they tone down the cringe "assassin association" lore.
me
Hollywood slop fans basically have 2 options for action movies, this or disney shit. I'm not surprised they're clamoring for it.
>Donnie Yen
I will watch your John Kino movie now
Donnie "China Numba Wan" Yen. dropped!
Perfect move by a production company- make a violence-fetishizing, toxic-masculinity promoting movie that can still be accepted and consoooomed by the feminist Reddit crowd just because the main actor le heckin wholesome guy who rides the subway.
Only 1 and 2 were good
This but without the 2
2 in inexplicably the best. If it's not obvious to you you're NGMI
this
and 2 was still sorta pushing it
2 was better than 1 in every way other than Willem Dafoe
>2 were good
2 was pretty shit, 1 and 3 are kino.
one thing i hated about 2 is the negress at the italian hotel whose italian was inglorious basterds tier. they filmed in italy, couldn't they hire an italian or at least an italian-american?
I didn't really like this movie. The Analyst was a moronic character and it was lame they replaced Morpheus with some other actor
Reddit cineslop
not an argument
Does anyone remember any of the Lethal Weapon sequels? None of these attempts to capitalize on the original ever result in a better movie. You could argue James Cameron came close with Alien II and Terminator II, but he significantly added to the mythology of the original. 99.5% of sequels are unnecessary dogshit.
>Does anyone remember any of the Lethal Weapon sequels?
Yes. Leathal Weapon 2 is a fricking classic in the action-comedy genre.
But yeah what they should've done is simply made more movies with the same team except with a different premise, similar to what Jackie Chan did. Different story, but that's just an excuse to do the same kind of stunt and martial arts work they're known for. Making more and more John Wick movies and expanding on the entire universe was a big mistake.
While generally true, I loved every Lethal Weapon and unironically cannot wait for the next one, directed by Gibson himself.
are they blocking bullets with katanas anime style?
the frick
Their suits are lined with some bullet proof material.
Kino
problem?
Pajeet here sir, that's a shit film.
Paki basterd bich
>that WEBM
Is this the power of good mornings?
>Good morning sirs
Why do Normies piss, shit and cum themselves over this slightly above mediocre series?
i liked the first one a lot. 2nd was good. 3rd made me cringe in theaters. a 4th is overstaying its welcome.
>Kino is actually popular because it's good
>Contrarian /misc/cels inmediately being miserable c**ts spamming r*ddit because they are socially inept
This board is so tiresome.
What do you expect? they're still dilating after QA lost LMAO
A couple of days ago in a "Don't Look Up" thread some /misc/cel was defending fricking BlackRock just to "own the libs". It's so pathetic it's not even funny anymore.
>kino is good
>let's run it into the ground with 5 sequels
No
Then fricking leave.
yes baby
thank you
are we just going to ignore that he ruined the matrix franchise for a shitty paycheck?
Keanu wrote the matrix?
1 > start of 3 > start of 2 > end of 3 > end of 2.
why isnt he in john wick 4?
We don’t deserve John Wick
>have you given any thought to when this ends
i wish someone would ask the people in charge of this movie this question. it was a fine film but in no way did it need 3 sequels
cope harder you sad homosexual
drink bleach
We never get these movies anymore, its oversaturated with Marvel shite. Be happy. Disney will just buy the franchise and add it to the marvel universe.
ngl that katana and point blank shooting at each other reminds me of this shit
They have the bulletproof suits from the last one
dude they got donnie yen??? hype
they got a CCP supporter? hype
/qa/ lost, deal with it.
any more alt or non binary cuties?
post more cuties
> no Wick doggo
Did they kill another one?
How the frick there are 4 films of this? I only remember seeing the first one like 7 years ago. How the frick?
>white man shooting minorities with a gun
how the frick is this allowed in 2022
>People keep asking if I'm gay, and I haven't really had an answer.
>But yeah, I'm thinking I'm gay.
>So you can hand over your cum...
>OR CUM SCREAMING ALONGSIDE ME
i don't even understand the plot for the movies as of now.
John was excommunicated in 2, but in 3 he got back in by meeting the old man in the desert right? But the old man doesn't supersede the council who still wants him dead?
the "old man" is the head of the council, the one who sits ABOVE the high table
He later violated the oath that cost him a finger thus rendering the entire thing a waste of time. He was supposed to kill Winston, instead he wasted the death squads. Then he was betrayed by Winston regardless so oops guess you should've followed orders gay. I don't really care but I can't ignore it either. The third movie was simultaneously competently done and moronic as frick
>The third movie was simultaneously competently done and moronic as frick
Isn't this the case for every masterpiece anon
lest we fricking forget
Is it a small part? How much are they fricking paying him to do this?
After the woke stuff in jw3 with the larping lezzo thing and trannies im not very hopeful
>Morpheus is in it
no way
it has some matrix allusions in it. maybe it's Neo's next matrix iteration to escape
Chad Stahelski should attach himself to another IP.
He made John Wick. John Wick, since the 2nd, really is "Chad Stehleski stunts: the movie." This is his aesthetic language. These are the movies he wants to make. The IP *is* him. I can't think of why he'd decide to artificially constrain his creativity to use a different aesthetic, story, characters, etc if all he wants to do is make fights like John Wick fights.
he's gonna direct the Highlander reboot and a Ghosts of Sashimi adaption
Based. Finally something good. Can't wait. Tired of all this shitty homosexual garbage recently
This looks more and more like last xXx and other Vin Diesel movies
Bro, I liked the movies and all, but did they really need to make a fourth one?
BUCKBROS?!
His comic is getting a 2 season anime adaption too.
Nobody already did this better.
Nobody was absolute clown shit with main actor that did frick all his entire life and the ending was straight from looney toons.
>BB lawyer guy is way too unbelievable as a retired killer
>Doc Brown in old folks home killing hired hitmen
>the homosexual villain singing Sinatra or whatever
>family was boring as frick too
That film had the most Reddit ideas of what “cool” is
By the logic of some people in this thread, cruise should have stopped making mission impossible
Tbh I wish Tom had made more comedies instead of going full action hero. He's a talented actor not just a meat head
The comedy aspects and gags in the MI movies are better than the best shit in 95% or maybe more of modern comedies. MI2 was dogshit but everything else was very good to kino. It was hilarious rewatching MI2 for the first time since it came out originally and realizing that Woo absolutely phoned it in and just shoehorned most of Face/Off's plot into the MI universe and called it good.
the stuff they do in the latest mission impossible is still the sort of stuff they'd have done in the first
Same logic for John Wick
>First movie, John Wick goes against a Viggo and his goons cuz dog
>Second, goes against the guy who took his house from him
>Third, everyone goes against him
Muh, simple
this is the reason why I hate John Wick movies.
>some dumb c**t with a BOW
>jumps down on 1 man with automatic gun
>shock wave of tsunami magnitude is created
>2 men behind comically stumble and fall back
this is beyond fricking degeneracy. it immediately takes you out of the movie and you scream "WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FRICK IS THIS SHIT"
Yeah what the frick was that
she looks asian, which makes my peenus weenus al dente, which means it's fine.
I hate the nigress in jw3 though
third movie choreography was slow dont expect it being faster this time around
I only expect guns to be used as guns, not as a holding stick. Do I ask for too much? Probably I do.
Look in the background. Another archer missed their timing. Hopefully they'll fix it before next year, there's plenty of time. It would take 1 evening and $200.
>nigress
moronic zoomy, Halle Berry is a national treasures. No, that isn't an ESL typo.
>they just shoot at each other point blank range while holding katanas
>muh "real" stunts
yeah no thanks bye
I couldnt finish the 3rd film. At some point the flips and judo rolls/gun-kata get repetitive and childish.
>I GOTTA KILL VILLAIN #82 BECAUSE THE PLOT REQUIRES IT
>I GOTTA USE ANOTHER SUPER SECRET MEANS OF DOING SOMETHING MUNDANE
>I GOTTA MEAT UP WITH UNDERGROUND FIGURE PLAYED WITH A-LISTER
>I GOTTA KILL FINAL BOSS
The second film was already too much.
>500 men run at you with guns of all sorts and types
>knock them all out with your breathe
Bravo, modern writers! I KNEEL
BRAVO!
From new trailer:
>IM AN ASIAN ASSASSIN
>IM GONNA JUMP YOU AND USE A BOW AND ARROW FROM 10 CM AWAYS
bonk
I only her enemies had some kind of devices that can deal with her from range. Something powerful and easy to use. IF ONLY............ but they all are doomed.
>This b***hing is the same level of why the grunts dont gang up the main character in kung fu movies instead of coming up 1 by 1
Are you suggesting that John Wich 4 is a KungFu movie?
lol basedboys mad...just admit you guys hate the movie because normies like keanu
>just admit you guys hate the movie because normies like keanu
I admit that I dislike the 4th iteration of the same plot, which has become repetitive and uninteresting after the 2nd half of the 2nd film.
Should have stopped at 3.
>full Asian antagonist cast
>Indonesian choreographers
Will this movie be good?
I heard John Wick 4 & 5 is supposed to be seen as "one" movie.
the guys from the Raid?
Yes. He even played a minor role in 3 too.
Don't forget they had this absolute legend for the first trilogy as well.
>Matrix
>Kill Bill
>Ip Man
>basically all the top Chinese martial arts films
its a good action flick ffs all you fricks crying.
>yeeeesss I love superheroes 5432!
>Heckin marvel won bros
>DC cope!!
>Wtf is this, John Wick 4?!? Why the frick do we need a fourth one, do people really just want to rewatch the same thing?
I liked the first movie but it's so tiresome at this point. The "assassin world" gimmick was fun in it because it was such a small part in it, but you can't have a "universe" from it because it's fricking stupid.
>My one man army film needs to be realistic!
Nobody did it better
nope, it went from pretty okay stuff (bus fight) to john wick tier (home invasion) to reddit capeshit tier shit (everything after the home invasion)
my body is ready
That scene with Donnie looks like that resident evil meme. Jesus the writers browse tv/?
They should have concluded with 3. This looks more of 3. Why didn't they finish with 3?
Talk about outstaying your fricking welcome.
Keenu is a horrible action star, his goofy bow legged staggering walk and slow action is just dumb. How is it someone like Chris Pratt can absolutely nail his gun handling and look like he’s actually a pro at it while Keanis is so shit after all this “training” he did at gunbunny ranch?
John wick 3 was a piece of shit but this has Donnie Yen and Scott Adkins I am fricking in
>Best action packed series in existence makes trannies seethe
Classic
I know this place has been a reddit hive for a long time but holy shit, the amount of morons in this thread is unreal. check out these GEMS
>who wanted another 2 hours of fast-paced, masterfully choreographed action
>Tbh this. Let’s go full fan service and just do it already.
>Kino is actually popular because it's good
>I like the stylistic vibe to it and yeah you have to kind of turn your brain off
I'm going to give them more money and cause >another sequel and you can't stop me
can't even be bothered now. too much cringe
>Best action packed series in existence makes trannies seethe
you watch a lot of cool anime I bet!
can they stop fricking around and have the Raid director do this already?
hey it looks good frick you
This almost or 60 year old man action movies and show characters is getting out of hand. Nobody wants to see it.
We've got late 50s/60 year old John Wick, Boba Fett, John Maverick, Bob Odenkirk in that nobody movie. It's silly. These men are geriatric.
John Wick is the Rambo of our generation. Pretty good franchise so far, hope the fourth installment can keep up the momentum
>John Wick is the Rambo of our generation
did I wake up in bizzarro land? what the frick is going on. is this just a promotional marketing thread?
Okay we get it. You like being contrarian for the sake of pretending you're original. Just remember that 15 years down the line while I'm showing these movies to my offspring you'll still be jerking off to the 20th instalment of the Star Wars franchise.
didn't read because you're a fricking idiot. the whole world has gone insane and is calling me crazy apparently.
>i'm going to show the John Wick cinematic Universe to my children!!!
He is though name another action character thats as iconic with zoomers that isn't captain american or spiderman.
This shit will never have a satisfying ending.
It will go on until it stops making money and then it will end in a cliffhanger.
I was fine with it being only one movie. I was kind of alright with it being 3. Now I'm done (after I pirate this one).
They literally made what The Matrix 4 should have been.
BASED
I was honestly surprised it didn't end with 3. It's gotten so fricking ridiculous, especially considering how grounded the original one was.
I'll still watch it, mind you, but it's definitely a stretch.
these movies are top tier action with great choreography
quit crying you bitter fricking gays, be happy there's something amusing on the horizon for once
He literally killed the sandBlack person that owns the High Table, how can they even up the stakes?
Were you asleep?
He didn't kill the Elder, Wick cut off his own finger and went to do the Elder's bidding.
All I know is I better get a lot more Lawrence Kinoburne in this movie than “You ready, John”. I already had expected him to be a bigger role in 3 and was disappointed.
Frick yes.
how many redditors in this thread holy shit fricking go back. this movie will be dogshit
The problem with the action past the first one is they make it too bombastic and it become a comedy. if you watched it carefully you can see literally that all bad guys throwing themselves to be shot by john wick, while in the first move he had to maneuver himself in tight spots hence the gun fu and make the action more believable. from 2 upward is just showing how stupid the bad guys is.
looks kino
exactly how I feel nowadays, with all these shitskins about
>wanna kill everyone?
t.GenX boomer
I'm glad we're getting away from realism. The best parts of these films was the action, and the creative setpieces they make have always been the most entertaining. A bunch of stunt guys getting together making crazy shit happen.
>title
>title: chapter 2
>title: chapter 3: subtitle
I’m still annoyed
could never get over the slapstick film logic where the enemies have to be in camera shot for john wick to be able to shoot them. really ruins it for me.