It's going to quickly drop to like 6th place and just kind of stay there earning 2-3 million a day for like two straight months, just like the first did.
The first movie was the most successful Sony animation movie ever, and the sequel has *already* made more money domestic, and is going to earn more total than ITSV did before it even opens in China or Japan.
>$100M production budget >$100M marketing budget >theaters take half the revenue
It'll be profitable after $400M, but theaters start taking more than half after the first couple of weeks
Theaters take much less than half the revenue, especially on opening weekend. The "movie needs to make twice its budget" rule is to account for marketing and distribution costs, but you're double-counting it.
Spider-verse is profitable already and will make more than $400 million regardless.
Nah they take half and then increase that the further a movie is into the run
>The "movie needs to make twice its budget" rule is to account for marketing and distribution costs, but you're double-counting it.
No I'm just taking into account theater split
https://movieweb.com/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-box-office/ >Assuming a marketing cost of between $100 million and $125 million, the break-even point for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is between $450 million and $500 million at the worldwide box office
It's going to quickly drop to like 6th place and just kind of stay there earning 2-3 million a day for like two straight months, just like the first did.
The first movie was the most successful Sony animation movie ever, and the sequel has *already* made more money domestic, and is going to earn more total than ITSV did before it even opens in China or Japan.
>Great PostTrak audience exits prevail with 93% positive and an 82% recommend among general audiences. Still, guy-leaning at 63%, with 61% between 18-34 and the biggest demo turnout being 18-24 year olds at 40%. Very strong diversity demos, with 34% Latino and Hispanic, 27% Caucasian, 22% Black and 17% Asian/other. Across the Spider-Verse was strong everywhere, but most prominently in the East and West.
Little Mermaid over-indexed on black audiences, which Miles couldn't with all their pandering
It's because Miles is Puerto Rican and AtSV went hard into highlighting Miles' Latino heritage and from what I saw with two of the people that I saw the movie with and online reactions, Latino Miles turns Black Americans off.
Go search Twitter and you'll see rants from people being upset about the idea of an African Latino actor playing Miles instead of a Black American actor regardless if that African Latino Actor is American or not. Look up Miles and the words Afro-Latino and you'll see tweets of butthurt people making weird arguments as to why he's not Afro-Latino and Black American using made up technicalities and goal post moving what the meaning of Afro-Latino is.
There's also Black Americans complaining about Miles having his Latina mother's last name and not his black father's last name. Also getting butthurt at the idea of a Black Latino actor wanting to play him.
The two black people that I went with complained about the Spanish in the movie, the scenes with Miles and his senpai having Latinos in it, and thought that this movie had suddenly made him Latino (I guess they don't know Morales is a Latino last name or the fact that he briefly speaks Spanish in the first movie). It's clear that the Latino aspect pisses them off which makes sense since there's beef between Black Americans beef with Latinos in some communities.
I can also see that they don't want light skinned black actors, they really want him to be Nigerian at this point
11 months ago
Anonymous
They want specifically dark skinned Black Americans >https://twitter.com/BurnEr92976227/status/1666835074330013696
This whole thread is people seething at the idea of an Afro-Latino playing Miles and him not having his dad's last name. It's even pointed out to them that Marsershala Ali, a Black American actor, played a black Afro-Cuban and they replied with "We have a strong culture with icons worthy of film".
11 months ago
Anonymous
>His father is still African American he just took on his wife’s surname.
>It's still pandering to the hispanic population and makes no sense. So he takes "Davis" off because of racism but adds "Morales" the name of Spanish slave owners huh?
Christ, you cannot with these people.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>blacks acting like victims >AGAIN >they complain about not getting enough representation
this is why everyone hates them
>It's because Miles is Puerto Rican and AtSV went hard into highlighting Miles' Latino heritage and from what I saw with two of the people that I saw the movie with and online reactions, Latino Miles turns Black Americans off
Every article I saw talked about the importance of Miles as a black Spiderman and how he could tell stories about the the "community"
I saw multiple outreach to black celebrities to shill the movie
He acts like an intelligent black kid that was raised with a responsible father being active in his life, which is why your average black can't relate to him
>He acts like an intelligent black kid that was raised with a responsible father being active in his life, which is why your average black can't relate to him
He goes to an exclusive prep school, simps after a white (fe)male yet listens to hip hop and does graffiti
It's failed pandering. "Exaggerated swagger of a black teen" - my ass.
Miles is for Reddit nu-males. Just doesn't have to natural cool of a Blade or Luke Cage.
Making miles a carbon copy of Luke or Blade would be the most annoying possible thing they could of done with his character.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Instead, we need a carbon copy of Peter reskinned for what reason?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He acts like an intelligent black kid that was raised with a responsible father being active in his life, which is why your average black can't relate to him
He goes to an exclusive prep school, simps after a white (fe)male yet listens to hip hop and does graffiti
It's failed pandering. "Exaggerated swagger of a black teen" - my ass.
Miles is for Reddit nu-males. Just doesn't have to natural cool of a Blade or Luke Cage.
>goes to an exclusive prep school >listens to hip hop and does graffiti
Peter doesn't attend or is interested in either of these things.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Miles didn't do either in the comics, they made that shit up for the movie and they could've done it with Peter as well, if that was a story you wanted to tell for some reason
11 months ago
Anonymous
>and they could've done it with Peter as well, if that was a story you wanted to tell for some reason
This
He's a white NYer, he def has "urban" influences
11 months ago
Anonymous
What's wrong with adding something new to a character in the movie?
I wholeheartedly disagree.
The one thing I like about movie miles is that his hispanic and black heritage isn't made to be much of a prominent aspect of his character or what made him unique. He was just a kid who was simply interested in art and music.
Idk how miles would/should act to come across as a "genuine black kid" but I don't think the writers missed with his portrayal here.
>The one thing I like about movie miles is that his hispanic and black heritage isn't made to be much of a prominent aspect of his character or what made him unique
Let them have their fun. They will be seething for the next two months now that summer vacation is here. Also it making so much domestically is a sign of how phenomenal the movie is, since America used to make intelligent movies for Americans. Once they started chasing international, movies began being dumbed down for third world and bugs. It would be another industry changer if it continues to be a domestic darling while doing fine internationally like movies used to be broken down to. I already know some third worlder or bug is going to take offense to me saying Americans are intelligent, and to that, too bad.
I don't get the point of this threads at all? if this was all there is to it then yes i would worry, but is not like the amount of money this movie makes is gonna make sony cancel beyond the spiderverse
And fine let's think worst case scenario this movie doesn't earn enough and then beyond comes out and earns even less, what would be the problem? do you want a 4th spider-verse movie?, i think we can end this as a trilogy and then move to something different, if you disagree go ahead tell me what would be the plot for spider-verse 4
plus this thing is probably making a gorillion bucks in merch the first one made me buy so much spider-man stuff
Half of this thread (and this board) has never seen AtSV, has no plans to, and only wants to screech about black people, and the other half is mostly just trolling the first half.
The thread is Cinemaphile box office shitposting. You will see them make these threads with riddiculous ledes all the fricking time, regardless of the actual performance..
Because his name wouldn't be alliterative if his name was Miles Davis.
Because Bendis made a whole thing with Jefferson wanting Miles to take his mother's last name because Jefferson and his brother had a bad past and he didn't want Miles to carry that.
Latinos use both parents last names and it's not uncommon for Latinos to put both their parents' last name in their registry when they naturalize or become US citizens and sometimes they or Gringos get confused and suddenly the dad's last name is now the middle name and the mother's last name the actual surname. But that's not the case with Miles Gonzalo Morales.
just what?
>acting like that’s bad
That’s an average drop OP. I do know that the whole thread will act like this is abysmal somehow anyways so what the frick.
puss in boots did far worse in the long run and it had a 30% drop in its second week.
Its 5 day debut was also ten times less than this opening weekend. There is a lot to this shit which is why the discussions are always the worst.
PiB 2 had atrocious marketing and was saved by WOM.
Contrast that with Spiderverse 2, which is being endlessly shilled
Puss had an atrocious opening weekend, like $12M. It had some of the greatest legs of all time
/co's hatred for miles and by extension his pretty great movies outweigh any rational thinking processes they might have
>his pretty great movies
Correct
Incorrect
>his pretty great movies
>his
Also only ITSV was good, ATSV is dogshit
Who are you kidding? The sequel was mid as frick.
It's pretty bad for a movie that's not doing well internationally
>that's not doing well internationally
Exactly
The fact everyone overhyped this shit into becoming over-rated means the money drop reflecting it as the average flick it was is to be celebrated
ONLY over half a billion burger coins?! Sony is finished…
It's not over a half a billion
This is the kind of person who writes
>American education
It already made almost 4x its budget, it is a fricking massive economic success
>Spider-Man breaking even is a massive economic success
it broke even at 300m, it already made 90m in profit
>$100M production budget
>$100M marketing budget
>theaters take half the revenue
It'll be profitable after $400M, but theaters start taking more than half after the first couple of weeks
Theaters take much less than half the revenue, especially on opening weekend. The "movie needs to make twice its budget" rule is to account for marketing and distribution costs, but you're double-counting it.
Spider-verse is profitable already and will make more than $400 million regardless.
Nah they take half and then increase that the further a movie is into the run
>The "movie needs to make twice its budget" rule is to account for marketing and distribution costs, but you're double-counting it.
No I'm just taking into account theater split
https://movieweb.com/spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-box-office/
>Assuming a marketing cost of between $100 million and $125 million, the break-even point for Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse is between $450 million and $500 million at the worldwide box office
>Breaking even
It's going to quickly drop to like 6th place and just kind of stay there earning 2-3 million a day for like two straight months, just like the first did.
The first movie was the most successful Sony animation movie ever, and the sequel has *already* made more money domestic, and is going to earn more total than ITSV did before it even opens in China or Japan.
Because this site has a need to make everything competitive even when they aren't in direct competition.
Spiderverse didn't beat Mario so it failed
>not competition
Takealoadofthisguy
You live vicariously through the success and failure of companies because you have nothing going on in your own life. It's pathetic
don't forget miles is black & fricking a white girl this is most important to why the movie must fail
God, I remember this shit from the first movie. And from the first Black Panther, actually.
It's literally the #1 movie in America today, it earned more on day nine than Beast Wars did on day 3
>God, I remember this shit from the first movie. And from the first Black Panther, actually
Yet black people don't rock with Miles
https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-spider-man-across-the-spider-verse-1235398807/
>Great PostTrak audience exits prevail with 93% positive and an 82% recommend among general audiences. Still, guy-leaning at 63%, with 61% between 18-34 and the biggest demo turnout being 18-24 year olds at 40%. Very strong diversity demos, with 34% Latino and Hispanic, 27% Caucasian, 22% Black and 17% Asian/other. Across the Spider-Verse was strong everywhere, but most prominently in the East and West.
Little Mermaid over-indexed on black audiences, which Miles couldn't with all their pandering
It's because Miles is Puerto Rican and AtSV went hard into highlighting Miles' Latino heritage and from what I saw with two of the people that I saw the movie with and online reactions, Latino Miles turns Black Americans off.
Why are they so fragile?
Your truly just making assumptions of off some stats.
I've never heard any black person complain about miles' mixed heritage.
Go search Twitter and you'll see rants from people being upset about the idea of an African Latino actor playing Miles instead of a Black American actor regardless if that African Latino Actor is American or not. Look up Miles and the words Afro-Latino and you'll see tweets of butthurt people making weird arguments as to why he's not Afro-Latino and Black American using made up technicalities and goal post moving what the meaning of Afro-Latino is.
There's also Black Americans complaining about Miles having his Latina mother's last name and not his black father's last name. Also getting butthurt at the idea of a Black Latino actor wanting to play him.
The two black people that I went with complained about the Spanish in the movie, the scenes with Miles and his senpai having Latinos in it, and thought that this movie had suddenly made him Latino (I guess they don't know Morales is a Latino last name or the fact that he briefly speaks Spanish in the first movie). It's clear that the Latino aspect pisses them off which makes sense since there's beef between Black Americans beef with Latinos in some communities.
I can also see that they don't want light skinned black actors, they really want him to be Nigerian at this point
They want specifically dark skinned Black Americans
>https://twitter.com/BurnEr92976227/status/1666835074330013696
This whole thread is people seething at the idea of an Afro-Latino playing Miles and him not having his dad's last name. It's even pointed out to them that Marsershala Ali, a Black American actor, played a black Afro-Cuban and they replied with "We have a strong culture with icons worthy of film".
>His father is still African American he just took on his wife’s surname.
>It's still pandering to the hispanic population and makes no sense. So he takes "Davis" off because of racism but adds "Morales" the name of Spanish slave owners huh?
Christ, you cannot with these people.
>blacks acting like victims
>AGAIN
>they complain about not getting enough representation
this is why everyone hates them
>It's because Miles is Puerto Rican and AtSV went hard into highlighting Miles' Latino heritage and from what I saw with two of the people that I saw the movie with and online reactions, Latino Miles turns Black Americans off
Every article I saw talked about the importance of Miles as a black Spiderman and how he could tell stories about the the "community"
I saw multiple outreach to black celebrities to shill the movie
Miles is an Urkel dork who just isn't liked
Is he disliked anywhere else but /co?
Surely you have been on Cinemaphile enough to know that black people only make up 13% of the population, so it's actually overperforming.
>Yet black people don't rock with Miles
He acts like some sheltered Cali white trust fund baby's idea of the average black person
He acts like an intelligent black kid that was raised with a responsible father being active in his life, which is why your average black can't relate to him
>He acts like an intelligent black kid that was raised with a responsible father being active in his life, which is why your average black can't relate to him
He goes to an exclusive prep school, simps after a white (fe)male yet listens to hip hop and does graffiti
It's failed pandering. "Exaggerated swagger of a black teen" - my ass.
Miles is for Reddit nu-males. Just doesn't have to natural cool of a Blade or Luke Cage.
>Blade or Luke Cage.
Making miles a carbon copy of Luke or Blade would be the most annoying possible thing they could of done with his character.
Instead, we need a carbon copy of Peter reskinned for what reason?
>goes to an exclusive prep school
>listens to hip hop and does graffiti
Peter doesn't attend or is interested in either of these things.
Miles didn't do either in the comics, they made that shit up for the movie and they could've done it with Peter as well, if that was a story you wanted to tell for some reason
>and they could've done it with Peter as well, if that was a story you wanted to tell for some reason
This
He's a white NYer, he def has "urban" influences
What's wrong with adding something new to a character in the movie?
I wholeheartedly disagree.
The one thing I like about movie miles is that his hispanic and black heritage isn't made to be much of a prominent aspect of his character or what made him unique. He was just a kid who was simply interested in art and music.
Idk how miles would/should act to come across as a "genuine black kid" but I don't think the writers missed with his portrayal here.
>The one thing I like about movie miles is that his hispanic and black heritage isn't made to be much of a prominent aspect of his character or what made him unique
LOL
>He was just a kid who was simply interested in art and music.
and then is shown acing ap physics.
The black population is 13%. Meaning Balck people are over represented in this audience. So they very much rock with miles
Jesus, America. Stop letting the rest of us down like this.
Let them have their fun. They will be seething for the next two months now that summer vacation is here. Also it making so much domestically is a sign of how phenomenal the movie is, since America used to make intelligent movies for Americans. Once they started chasing international, movies began being dumbed down for third world and bugs. It would be another industry changer if it continues to be a domestic darling while doing fine internationally like movies used to be broken down to. I already know some third worlder or bug is going to take offense to me saying Americans are intelligent, and to that, too bad.
Now that you say this, I'm wondering if all the complaints about the easy to follow plot are just people from brazil or something. Holy shit.
>America used to make intelligent movies for Americans.
>Now they don’t , blame foreigners
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
No billy
No it won't make a billion. It probably won't beat GOTG3 either. But it's still going to be very profitable.
>Chuds dropping Miles just because of his gf's sexual identity
Sad. Transphobia's roots run deep in the fandom.
good
Lost to Transformers, too.
Transformers opening being only 5 million more than a second week movie is interesting.
Transformers is the worst of big blockbuster franchises. I'm surprised it's even making this much
I'm glad, it means another one. Hopefully.
I didn't know even your taste was this bad Boco you massive fricking homosexual
Luv Transformers. Simple as.
I'd take another transformers movie over most of the garbage the MCU and DCEU are shoveling out
>Transformers is the worst of big blockbuster franchises
Jurassic world exists
You misspelled "Mission Impossible".
Or Fast and Furious, perhaps.
Shouldn't it be opening to like twice as much and not 5 million?
It made 60 million. 110 million worldwide.
170 million worldwide
Oh, even better. Sweet.
its an international franchise, it made 110 million overseas.
I see "international franchise" as code for "movie for moronic people".
>Mutt who's on average are illiterate and only know 4th grade math calling the rest of the world moronic
Lol
Compared to at least 3.5-4 continents, yes.
Holy shit burger, do you think 5 comes before 4?
Do you not know what a decimal is, europoor?
It's literally already fallen behind Spider-Verse, which beat it today.
China bucks are gonna put it over the top
This didn't happen to the super chad brothers.
Also nothing else was playing in the theater.
It's doing average. Will still be better than the first movie but it doesn't seem like it'll hit $700m. Maybe $650m is a little more realistic.
thats a decent drop
It's good for capeshit. On the higher end for an animated movie
I don't get the point of this threads at all? if this was all there is to it then yes i would worry, but is not like the amount of money this movie makes is gonna make sony cancel beyond the spiderverse
And fine let's think worst case scenario this movie doesn't earn enough and then beyond comes out and earns even less, what would be the problem? do you want a 4th spider-verse movie?, i think we can end this as a trilogy and then move to something different, if you disagree go ahead tell me what would be the plot for spider-verse 4
plus this thing is probably making a gorillion bucks in merch the first one made me buy so much spider-man stuff
Half of this thread (and this board) has never seen AtSV, has no plans to, and only wants to screech about black people, and the other half is mostly just trolling the first half.
>do you want a 4th spider-verse movie?,
I want a venomverse trilogy
The thread is Cinemaphile box office shitposting. You will see them make these threads with riddiculous ledes all the fricking time, regardless of the actual performance..
Why is his last name Morales when his father is the black parent?
Because his name wouldn't be alliterative if his name was Miles Davis.
Because Bendis made a whole thing with Jefferson wanting Miles to take his mother's last name because Jefferson and his brother had a bad past and he didn't want Miles to carry that.
Latinos use both parents last names and it's not uncommon for Latinos to put both their parents' last name in their registry when they naturalize or become US citizens and sometimes they or Gringos get confused and suddenly the dad's last name is now the middle name and the mother's last name the actual surname. But that's not the case with Miles Gonzalo Morales.
I'm waiting for it to come out on Blu Ray. Haven't been to a movie theater since that Super Pets movie with The Rock came out.
That is pretty bad given how shilled it is
It's proof that most people didn't go an see it.
That drop is good for capeshit nowadays.