>Feels like most of the frickheads in Hollywood actively hate comics
Yeah because comics actually told stories when they were kids and now they're just BLM troon propaganda
What an incredibly homosexual way of saying "yeah it turns out I got lucky with Thor 3 and I'm a one-trick pony". Stop trying to be quirky homie, you just aren't funny and can't tell a story
Directors always do this. Take a job for money and if it’s successful bask in their grace as an auteur and if it fails blame the lackluster script/source/producers
I know, but I will never stop calling them homosexuals for what they do to pre-existing stories and characters. Someone should always do it, I don't care how autistic it is.
The direction bugs me, because Kenneth Branagh literally just thought that "Dutch angles = comic book," but it's the only one of the Thor films that really gets the tone right aside from the Kat Dennings comedy bits
Plus, the visuals for Asgard are great, and for some reason it just stopped looking like that after this first appearance.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
Then they make it a fricking joke and everyone loves it, but then they started to hate it because the joke went too far.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I think people were more sold over Thor fights Hulk, Cate Blanchett as Hela, Jeff Goldblum as the Grandmaster and Surtur. Because other than quips from Korg, people don't really talk about this movie other than what I just mentioned and the one actual Waititi thing they talk about is Korg. And Korg proved a one trick pony.
This is the same movie that has Thor getting easily tased and Loki easily getting tricked.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
People didn't hate Thor 1, they hated The Dark World
Thor 1 would've been the start of a solid standalone franchise if not for the shared universe
6 months ago
Anonymous
The Dark World was fine. People only starting shitting on it to prop up Ragnarok which makes me think it was manufactured.
6 months ago
Anonymous
People were shitting on The Dark World as soon as it came out, anon
6 months ago
Anonymous
The Dark World was shit, the antagonist alone was complete dogshit and these movies live or die based on their villains. Hell, as bad as Thor 4 was at least they gave Bale *something* to give a shit about for his performance. Eccleston was completely squandered, easily one of the most forgettable MCU villains.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
People did not dislike Dark World for it being serious, they disliked it because the villain was the worst of the MCU until post-EG and it had way too much of the Kat Dennings comedy.
>I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
People didn't hate Thor 1, they hated The Dark World
Thor 1 would've been the start of a solid standalone franchise if not for the shared universe
The Dark World was shit, the antagonist alone was complete dogshit and these movies live or die based on their villains. Hell, as bad as Thor 4 was at least they gave Bale *something* to give a shit about for his performance. Eccleston was completely squandered, easily one of the most forgettable MCU villains.
The Dark World was fine. People only starting shitting on it to prop up Ragnarok which makes me think it was manufactured.
>The Dark World was fine
Agreed.
DARK WORLD
CONS > Comedy interrupts the end battle too much altho not half as bad as Ragnarok. > Malekith is unquestionably the weakest Mcu villain and doesn't even have a cool or faithful design. > Thor throwing the flimsy science poles at Malekith at the end looked silly. > Not much done with Portman or the romance.
PROS > Thor's outfit is much better than his suits in Thor1 or Avengers1. > More for Heimdall to do. > Loki is fun as always and got more to do here then he did in Ragnarok. > Kurse is cool looking and fairly menacing, him beating Thor into the ground was brutal. > Final battle is creative with the portals. > Frigga's death & funeral is great. Score is beautiful. Thor's reaction to her death, blasting Malekith's face with Lightning was great. > A little bit more for Sif & the warriors 3 to do. > Showed us more of Asgard, their technology and history. > Flashbacks to Odin's father Bor should have been longer but were cool none the less and Bor was perfectly cast.
6 months ago
Anonymous
RAGNAROK
PROS > Skurge's outfit is perfect. > Hela's outfit is perfect. > Thor's design once his hair is cut is damn good. > Odin's death was good, better then the original version with him being stabbed in a filthy alley. > Gladiator match is good & Hulk's CGI in it is better then it is the rest of the film. > Tessa is decent and has some fun mannerisms. > Hemsworth is more fun then in previous films. > The flashbacks to Hela slaughtering the Valkyries is visually fantastic and a wiener tease of what the Thor films should have looked like the entire time (Lord of the Rings + Zach Snyder) > Loki is still good and fun to watch. > Elba is given slightly more to do. > The "get help" joke is genuinely funny. > Them using the music from the first film at the end was well done (until they ruined it with the rock guy thinking he killed his friend)
6 months ago
Anonymous
Loki became a joke completely by the time of Ragnarok, you fricking moron.
Yeah, he was always an overrated shit villain but Ragnarok is what made him a fricking clown completely. >anything nice about negress Valkyrie
have a nice day.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>uses the word negress unironically
Opinion disregarded
6 months ago
Anonymous
RAGNAROK
PROS > Skurge's outfit is perfect. > Hela's outfit is perfect. > Thor's design once his hair is cut is damn good. > Odin's death was good, better then the original version with him being stabbed in a filthy alley. > Gladiator match is good & Hulk's CGI in it is better then it is the rest of the film. > Tessa is decent and has some fun mannerisms. > Hemsworth is more fun then in previous films. > The flashbacks to Hela slaughtering the Valkyries is visually fantastic and a wiener tease of what the Thor films should have looked like the entire time (Lord of the Rings + Zach Snyder) > Loki is still good and fun to watch. > Elba is given slightly more to do. > The "get help" joke is genuinely funny. > Them using the music from the first film at the end was well done (until they ruined it with the rock guy thinking he killed his friend)
RAGNAROK
CONS > The film has zero emotional weight after Odin's death. The Guardians films get away with their humor because before Infinity War they had the most emotional impact of the entire Mcu. This had none of that balance. The entire time I was watching Ragnarok I was saying to myself "Gunn could have done this so much better". > The humor is unbearably awkward and fake feeling, like a bad SNL skit. It went genuinely into Scary Movie/Movie 42 spoof vibe territory. The scenes with the Grandmaster especially. > Hela is just as flat a villain as Malekith or Ronan but is given a pass because she is alot more badass then them. > The sets and outfits on Sakaar look disgustingly cheap. Instead of celebrating the mythos (like aquaman did) and bringing Jack Kirby's designs to life they literally use his art as fricking wallpaper. > Valkyrie looks and acts nothing like any version of the character in the comics. > Surtur in the comics is a dark apocalyptic figure as menacing as Galactus, here he is a god damn joke. > A major complaint against the first 2 films was them doing nothing with the warriors 3 and this film does the same but full on kills them off. People give Snyder crap for killing off Jimmy Olsen in Bvs but give this a pass, hypocritical c**ts. > Doctor Strange is wasted. > Jeff Goldblum is wasted. > Ruffalo is wasted. > Karl Urban / Skurge is wasted and his death (one of the most emotionally powerful in all of comics) is done as a afterthought. > The destruction of Asgard is given little to no weight. We could have gotten something tragic & beautiful (Thor - Disassembled) but they pissed in our faces instead.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Hela is just as flat a villain as Malekith or Ronan
Frick no. She's not a particularly good villain but she has a far more interesting hook, look, and the actress is actually allowed to emote. Malekith sucks a bag of donkey dick, Ronan is alright.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>> A major complaint against the first 2 films was them doing nothing with the warriors 3 and this film does the same but full on kills them off. People give Snyder crap for killing off Jimmy Olsen in Bvs but give this a pass, hypocritical c**ts
Not only were they unceremoniously killed off, there was no emotional reaction from Thor, so we didn't even get the one benefit of killing off supporting characters.
6 months ago
Anonymous
RAGNAROK
PROS > Skurge's outfit is perfect. > Hela's outfit is perfect. > Thor's design once his hair is cut is damn good. > Odin's death was good, better then the original version with him being stabbed in a filthy alley. > Gladiator match is good & Hulk's CGI in it is better then it is the rest of the film. > Tessa is decent and has some fun mannerisms. > Hemsworth is more fun then in previous films. > The flashbacks to Hela slaughtering the Valkyries is visually fantastic and a wiener tease of what the Thor films should have looked like the entire time (Lord of the Rings + Zach Snyder) > Loki is still good and fun to watch. > Elba is given slightly more to do. > The "get help" joke is genuinely funny. > Them using the music from the first film at the end was well done (until they ruined it with the rock guy thinking he killed his friend)
[...]
RAGNAROK
CONS > The film has zero emotional weight after Odin's death. The Guardians films get away with their humor because before Infinity War they had the most emotional impact of the entire Mcu. This had none of that balance. The entire time I was watching Ragnarok I was saying to myself "Gunn could have done this so much better". > The humor is unbearably awkward and fake feeling, like a bad SNL skit. It went genuinely into Scary Movie/Movie 42 spoof vibe territory. The scenes with the Grandmaster especially. > Hela is just as flat a villain as Malekith or Ronan but is given a pass because she is alot more badass then them. > The sets and outfits on Sakaar look disgustingly cheap. Instead of celebrating the mythos (like aquaman did) and bringing Jack Kirby's designs to life they literally use his art as fricking wallpaper. > Valkyrie looks and acts nothing like any version of the character in the comics. > Surtur in the comics is a dark apocalyptic figure as menacing as Galactus, here he is a god damn joke. > A major complaint against the first 2 films was them doing nothing with the warriors 3 and this film does the same but full on kills them off. People give Snyder crap for killing off Jimmy Olsen in Bvs but give this a pass, hypocritical c**ts. > Doctor Strange is wasted. > Jeff Goldblum is wasted. > Ruffalo is wasted. > Karl Urban / Skurge is wasted and his death (one of the most emotionally powerful in all of comics) is done as a afterthought. > The destruction of Asgard is given little to no weight. We could have gotten something tragic & beautiful (Thor - Disassembled) but they pissed in our faces instead.
Based PROS and CONS poster
6 months ago
Anonymous
Thor 1 on Asgard was pretty
It was important that different Marvel movies had their own visual identity
6 months ago
Anonymous
>It was important that different Marvel movies had their own visual identity
This is the biggest reason as to why the modern MCU sucks to me. Past a certain point, they just stopped trying to make their films feel distinct. They all started to be shot the same way, scored the same way, dialogue written the same way, action scenes playing out the same way using the same kind of effects and CGI and that just turned the whole thing into this generic deluge of Marvel movies and shows. Not only is that dull filmmaking, but it betrays the spirit of what makes comic books enjoyable. I really enjoy seeing different writers and artists having their own takes on certain characters and yet also having the whole group effort in making it a cohesive universe where all these different kinds of characters and stories can coexist.
But the MCU stopped trying to do that after about 2013. For a while, it seemed people were fooled enough by them claiming "oh this is a political thriller but Marvel, this one is a Marvel heist film, this one is Marvel's take on John Hughes" until it was painfully obvious that none of those marketing spiels were ever true. Even James Gunn's Guardian movies, the most distinct, personalised series in the MCU, is really only different in terms of writing and even then, it's hardly a major stylistic difference. They all just merge.
The comic book equivalent of the MCU is if every single comic Marvel had put out in the 60s was drawn by Don Heck. Doesn't matter how many different characters or series there'd be, they'd still all look the same and be boring as hell.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Past a certain point, they just stopped trying to make their films feel distinct. They all started to be shot the same way, scored the same way, dialogue written the same way, action scenes playing out the same way using the same kind of effects and CGI and that just turned the whole thing into this generic deluge of Marvel movies and shows
Not trying to make excuses for Marvel but I think the reasoning is that past a certain point the movies being stylistically distinct becomes a problem when the whole point is to feel like one consistent setting where every movie takes place in the same universe.
If one person rocks the boat by making kino that's nothing like the other movies then that would screw up everything else. Plus the whole "hiring literal whos with no bargaining power" and being scared of taking risks thing. I hate it too.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I know why they do it, but that doesn't stop them from being formulaic and creatively uninteresting. Especially when Phase 1 and early Phase 2 showed that they could bring in experienced directors and have them make distinct movies that nevertheless worked together.
The worst part is when shit like Eternals and Multiverse of Madness flop. In a lot of mainstream reviews, the blame for those two films wasn't placed on poor creative decisions or obvious studio meddling/mandates, but instead on the fact that these movies apparently strayed from the MCU formula and gave their directors TOO MUCH freedom. It's insane.
6 months ago
Anonymous
MoM felt like a zoomer trying to make his own Sam Raimi movie after watching the SM trilogy. There was no way Raimi had any creative control on that movie.
6 months ago
Anonymous
He was a replacement director, and it painfully shows in the finished film. There's only a small handful of scenes in the whole thing that it felt like Sam Raimi would do. It's such a shame as well since I'd absolutely love to see a proper Dr Strange film by the man, without him having to adhere to studio demands or any wider MCU tie-ins. Imagine if we got something on the same level or creativity and actual madness as an Evil Dead film.
Instead, rumours are saying that they're planning for Dr Strange 3 to AGAIN tie into their shitty, dead-in-the-water Multiverse Saga instead of just being a simple fricking Dr Strange movie.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Not only is that dull filmmaking, but it betrays the spirit of what makes comic books enjoyable
100%
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Past a certain point, they just stopped trying to make their films feel distinct.
They stopped doing it the second they won legitimacy through making money and hiring well known directors. But from
the very start they were fricking over the directors who wanted to do something with the IP. Kenneth Branagh has talked about it. They wanted Thor to be Shakespearean in all the PR hype but behind the scenes they were telling him no.
6 months ago
Anonymous
I think Avengers is the exact cutoff point when every movie started feeling like a CW show, speaking from visual aesthetic standpoint.
6 months ago
Anonymous
All of the MCU movies until the first Avengers were shot on film.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>past a certain point
6 months ago
Anonymous
Still the best Thor film for having him wear the fricking helmet
Absolutely fricking based and every moron who said Ragnarok was good is BTFO. It was always trash and I couldn’t get why anyone thought it was anything but trash
Doing it for the money instead of following some inspired vision, is something I can more than respect.
But doing it while harbouring outright disrespect for the source material of the movie? Frick that.
Everyone is aware of this, we can still vocalize that they're lazy homosexuals. Everyone takes a job for a paycheck but putting in the bare minimum effort and not admitting to faults is nig tier behavior.
Difference between laziness and not being motivated. If you outright tell me you have zero interest in being a Pokemon UNITE competitive player, but I still offer you a million dollars to play a full season of it, you'll probably do it. You'll have zero motivation to actually get better and you'll probably still dislike the game, but you'll still do it.
Kinda sounds like cope. I have no doubt he took the job for the dosh, but I very much doubt he was this blaze about it at the time. He's probably just trying to pretend he never cared because his art sucked.
He's butthurt that he created the worst Thor film, which is really saying something. Dumb frick couldn't do comedy, couldn't give cancer the weight it deserved, and sure as hell couldn't commit to god butchering either. He failed on every level
Hate to break it to Cinemaphile but every MCU director is only in it for the money. The sole exception might be Gunn because he refuses to make anything besides CBMs
The guy that directed the Ant-Man films has been wanting to make a Fantastic Four film for so long that he said frick it and turned the third film into a weird F4 fanfic using the Ant-Man family
I was forced to watch Ragnarok in high school sci fi class (because a kid suggested that the class watch it even though its fantasy). Obnoxious, unfunny,smarmy, and dumb as frick. The fall of Asgard having no emotional weight epitomizes the MCU's shallowness and Taika's writing issues.
Never watched any of Taika's other movies.
Thor Ragnarok sucked, but people were just watching for the cinematic universe connections anyway. At this point, nobody cares about Marvel is doing so I don't see how it matters now. Hope his kids are doing well, that's better than some dumb Thor movie being slightly better under a different director.
Did anybody REALLY think we were getting World War Hulk with the current Marvel Cinematic direction?
I wonder how he must've felt after watching Love and Thunder for the first time >"alright, I guess I'm finally part of the Marvel machine, even though I didn't want to do another comic book film after Batman, just for my kids." >they cut out all his best scenes and just left his villain with as little screen time as possible >and then everything else in the movie is an embarrassing, childish mess, the worst possible example of an MCU film
Sounds like Love and Thunder was shit, good thing I forgot about going to see it.
I'm sure the visual effects artists he and the other b***h shat on publicly when Love & Thunder got terrible reviews were also trying to feed their children.
What a piece of shit.
Dude is a rich as frick israelite in new zealand.
Some other director who had passion for the project with a lot less money in his name could have had this movie as it's big break.
And maybe it would have been good instead of the shitshow that this made.
i still find it amazing that this guy walked up to natalie portman and asked her if she wanted to be the main character of a star wars movie he had in mind.
Can't wait to see Akira turned into a souless quip fest
I have no hope for a live action movie if ~~*taika waititi*~~ is involved in anyway.
The only movie from him i like is "what we do in the shadows"
This dude only is good at humor, he cant do serious movies.
If you think akira should be a comedy have a nice day.
Not even talking about him specifically, but he's just doing this "protector of cinema" bit for engagement.
I mean it’s not like he says they shouldnt be made. He’s one of the foremost archivists in the medium. He just thinks people need to watch more than action films.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Akria as a comedy
I... I kinda want to see it just to see how badly it's mangled.
He's being sincere stating he did a job for the money. What's the issue there?
I get glowing feedback at my job from my colleagues and they all sure as hell are aware that the moment I stop being paid I'm out
The MCU has never been sincere though. It's all filtered through ironic cynicism by people who are embarrassed by/actively dislike comic books but love money.
We know it's you, Taika
The average comic nerd could beat you up because you're a theater kid homosexual with a reddit sense of humor so don't pretend to be tough
Go back to your stinky country
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I-I could beat y-you up!
Not if you don’t remember to bring your inhaler. And don’t get a heart attack coming up the stairs
6 months ago
Anonymous
And that asthmatic fat frick could still beat up a Taika Waititi fan so stop acting cool
These homosexuals don't actually believe a word they say. They try to make passionate criticism of a bad story out to be petulant whining, but the simple fact that they responded shows their true nature. They're invested in the same homosexualy ideology that spawns these shit films, so any real critique of it weakens their political position. We get passionate, they get mad, but they can't show that they're mad, so they hide behind a veil of dismissive indifference, pretending that they don't care. But they still respond to every comment, they're very butt hurt.
And you're a slimy little twat goblin hiding behind a thin veneer of smug indifference.
I'd rather be honest and let people judge me as they will than be a cowardly pissant hiding in a crowd.
I’m one of the few adults in a room full of immature brats whining about how their feelings are hurt because a director only directed Thor part 3 and 4 for the money and openly admits it when he can’t be sued for breaching his contract
>I’m being passionate!
Okay, so you’re a “passionate” c**t. Happy?
>anon makes point >the poster he was making the point against comes along and shows the point was absolutely correct
I’m one of the few adults in a room full of immature brats whining about how their feelings are hurt because a director only directed Thor part 3 and 4 for the money and openly admits it when he can’t be sued for breaching his contract
Wait, so you're telling me that a movie director took a superhero-gig only because of money? I'm shook! SHOOK!
Whats next... You expect me to believe that The Dark Knight wasnt Chrtistopher Nolans passion project?
Absolute horseshit conjecture anon. Begins oozes with a passion TDKR lacks. BB and TDK are both great films, begins is a better Batman film though both are inarguably the best live action Batman films ever.
Begins was filmed on his garage with friends on a tiny set they built.
TDK had real life locations because he realised people didn't gave a damn about his toy city and CGI was easier.
No, he was shitting on other people's work on his movie. He never denigrated his own part of the film, never fessed up to his own short comings. He wasn't ready to shit on the whole of marvel just yet, but he was already distancing himself. Now that The Marvel's has officially signed the MCU's death certificate, he's cutting all ties and fleeing like a rat from a sinking ship.
Stop trying to make excuses
6 months ago
Anonymous
>He never denigrated his own part of the film
It’s all his movie. He said it while promoting his movie.
6 months ago
Anonymous
What's it like living with your head so far up your own ass? At least you can catch any polyps early I suppose.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Reddit tier response
6 months ago
Anonymous
Discord tier response. You will never be one of us, and you will never control the discourse here.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Blah blah blah I'm from Reddit and can't argue
Pathetic.
6 months ago
Anonymous
lel homie anyone can read the thread, you seriously need to get out of your own head if you see this as a 'win'
dude went hard into you
6 months ago
Anonymous
>dude went hard into you
You might want to rephrase that
6 months ago
Anonymous
No need, he's spot on.
I went into you hard, fast, without any lube. you're my b***h now and the whole thread knows it b***h.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Don't bother.
Let this pigeon strut across his shit smeared chessboard.
6 months ago
Anonymous
No need, he's spot on.
I went into you hard, fast, without any lube. you're my b***h now and the whole thread knows it b***h.
You failed to address the other anon's point. You're so butt blasted about this you think that you're arguing with the same poster when it was two to begin with, homosexual. Not only that but because you're too much of a pussy to bother arguing your points the whole thread can smell your blatant samegayging (hours later on top of that, holy shit) a mile away. Just accept that Waititi's movies suck dick. You don't need to defend them, even he admitted they suck.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Could you seethe any more?
6 months ago
Anonymous
>No u
I accept your concession. Go and sin no more.
6 months ago
Anonymous
This whole thing started with you seething about people not liking Ragnarok
6 months ago
Anonymous
>point
You homosexuals have no point, all you have are whataboutisms and misdirection.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>and misdirection.
Projection
6 months ago
Anonymous
You? Lose.
Me? I WIN.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>You? Lose. >Me? I WIN.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>point
You homosexuals have no point, all you have are whataboutisms and misdirection.
Also, Nobody here is defending LaT, we know it sucks. I can't even begin to fathom what sort of argument you were even attempting to make, then I reminded myself that you moronic Discord trannies are spew whatever bullshit you like to try and throw people of their guard.
It won't work, you will always be a homosexual, and you can't gaslight us.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Wall of text
Holy MAD
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Wall of text >Holy MAD
You're a worthless shill, cowering behind a veneer of indifference and false self assurance. I can't be discouraged my cretins like you, it is beyond your meager abilities homosexual.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>You're a worthless shill
You're the one who had to stick up for some homosexual MCU director.
6 months ago
Anonymous
see
This quite literally started with you shitting yourself about people criticizing Ragnarok / Love and Thunder, acting above it all while getting mad and spamming replies on a Chinese cartoon board.
6 months ago
Anonymous
This quite literally started with you shitting yourself about people criticizing Ragnarok / Love and Thunder, acting above it all while getting mad and spamming replies on a Chinese cartoon board.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Link to the post.
You can't. I have been critiquing that shit ass film and the moron who made it this entire thread.
So, either you are either a stupid or a liar.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I’m a c**t fanboy
We already knew that
No one cares what you think you stupid homosexual.
>I’m being passionate!
Okay, so you’re a “passionate” c**t. Happy?
Here, take your pick.
Inb4 screencap after refreshing/changing tabs/whatever. They all reek of your midwit Redditor attitude. Don't try and switch your stance for a tenth time.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Calling you a c**t and mocking you doesn’t mean someone is defending the movie. They’re just accurately painting you as a butthurt neckbeard and you’re kneejerk bleeding asshurt proves it because you’re personally insulted when people say you’re taking a comic book movie too seriously
6 months ago
Anonymous
>So, either you are either a stupid or a liar.
Hey, not all of us can be both, like you
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Get shut down with hard facts that Taika Waititi shit on his own movie >Ad hominem because you lost >Continue to samegay with comebacks that reek of a basedboy thinking he's clever
The only thing going hard is your head into the wall apparently
homie got so triggered over any criticism of this movie that he (you) had to act as if nobody here can dare criticize the films that most fans can agree on as being a weak point in the MCU or else it makes you a "c**t" for having an opinion
I've never seen such fruity replies that I think you must be a woman or actually Taika Waititi with how fricking upset that got you
I'm sorry you chose gargling Taika Waititi's balls as the hill you want to die on but you're not going to find much support here, believe it or not some people here have actually read comics and aren't going to blindly eat whatever shitty Hollywood slop from some hipster director
Frick off and don't come back because your corporate shilling is more embarrassing than your inability to form a coherent argument
6 months ago
Anonymous
>I wrote a wall of text >But I am NOT mad!!!!!!
6 months ago
Anonymous
You lost btw
6 months ago
Anonymous
>point
You homosexuals have no point, all you have are whataboutisms and misdirection.
>Gap between agreeing posts getting shorter and shorter
Kek
6 months ago
Anonymous
Its short because unlike you, there are more than a few people in this thread who can recognize the stench of your axe wound and the accompanying arguments.
You accuse others of the crimes that you commit.
6 months ago
Anonymous
[...]
Also, Nobody here is defending LaT, we know it sucks. I can't even begin to fathom what sort of argument you were even attempting to make, then I reminded myself that you moronic Discord trannies are spew whatever bullshit you like to try and throw people of their guard.
It won't work, you will always be a homosexual, and you can't gaslight us.
>realized the ship sailed and he won't be on it anymore >tries to pull a Scorsese >when he made possibly the worst capeshit ever released evem Chris "no expressions" Hamsworth was ashamed of it
But he was doing it for the money 🙁 so please don't look at his origins he's just your avarage Joe who tries to reach the end of the month.
>"only i can say things without evidence, the rest of you shall spoonfed me with the source to your claims"
My message wasn't directed at a drone like you. But it was pretty funny to watch you seethe over it. Also always remember this:
My word >>> your word
Should be pretty simple to understand even for you.
you're reaching pretty hard if you thought not buying your "argument" that a teacher is rich means someone is mad
but it's obvious you're just here to scream and cry about nothing, so you can be ignored
>when he made possibly the worst capeshit ever released evem Chris "no expressions" Hamsworth was ashamed of it
Thor 4 sucked but it's not even the worst Thor movie.
>guy in career field of directing offered a job >takes job to get money
This would be like complaining that a world-class chef working at McDonald’s should care about the subtle details of Big Macs. A job is a job.
Time to stop acting like people making corporate slop care about it as much as you consoomers do. He just made a movie to further his career and make the shit he actually wants to make, it’s not his fault you all cared too much about it.
>Snyder
He literally said he didn't read any superhero comics besides Watchmen because it had sex and violence. His interests are in being an edgy Randian, not comics.
Whedon didn't even care about the Avengers if he gave his Captain America such a shitty characterization. He'll be forever known as the "reference" and "language" guy even though he never did anything of the sort in the comics or anywhere else really.
I mean that's just a symptom of his larger problem, which is that the MCU has lost its prestige very suddenly.
That's why directors who aren't going to work for him again, like Waititi and DaCosta, are talking about how it's just a job, it's really Feige's movie, etc. It's true, but they can increase their prestige by distancing themselves from the MCU.
It's the same problem that made Fantastic Four hard to cast. Two years ago they could get anyone they wanted, which is how they were able to get and waste so many stars for Thor 4.
She shouldn't have come back and I have no idea why she did, except that the MCU was so big, and it might be bad for her career if Disney wanted her for a big story and she turned it down.
One of the few good things about the current state of the MCU is thinking about Harrison Ford realizing that this is the third straight dying franchise he signed up for.
Ford is 81 years old. He’s just doing projects he thinks are either fun or allows him to do something he hasn’t really done before. And it probably pays well.
>very suddenly.
It's been on decline since Civil War and audiences got enough of it after Endgame, not only for the tagline as the final movie, Disney marketing as the final movie but also because it was soo bad no one feel invested into whatever happened next.
The worst part is watching these bumbling twits constantly fail upward. Must be nice to have all of their failures cushioned by layers upon layers of nepotism and government backing.
How could he have possibly been poor? Didn't he already do JoJo Rabbit and What We Do In the Shadows beforehand? Does he have some open-secret drug problem I'm not aware of?
Wanting money is one thing. Saying you're "poor" is a very different implication.
What We Do In the Shadows and Wilderpeople were both small budget New Zealand movies that got cult attention. The TV adaptation for WWDITS didn’t happen until two years after Ragnarok, and Taika is just an executive producer and wrote like three episodes. Jemaine Clement is way more involved as the creator so he’s the one making any kind of real money from that.
Duh. It’s one thing to make small budget movies in New Zealand that tbf did well enough to generate some profit and get good critical acclaim, it’s another thing entirely to direct 180-250 million dollar budget blockbuster movies. He became a household name with Ragnarok. That’s what these movies are to most people Marvel (and Hollywood) largely hires, they’re a stepping stone to get some leverage so you can do bigger projects that actually mean something if you deliver a movie that makes bank.
>That’s what these movies are to most people Marvel (and Hollywood) largely hires, they’re a stepping stone to get some leverage so you can do bigger projects that actually mean something if you deliver a movie that makes bank.
The difference is someone like Nolan did Insomnia and knew how to work the studio system (he also did Prestige in between BB and TDK)
All these Marvel hires just get thrown into big leagues after being low budget indie directors
>All these Marvel hires just get thrown into big leagues after being low budget indie directors
They're easier to control that way. These literal whos have zero clout and can't tell the studio "no" unless they wanna get fired. So they do what they're told. Plus the action scenes are already worked out before the directors even show up.
Nolan can tell the studios to get fricked if they cross him and he's powerful enough that they have to listen to his every demand.
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>They're easier to control that way. These literal whos have zero clout and can't tell the studio "no" unless they wanna get fired
Being indie also means the instant tunblr fanbase will a bit more likely to watch the MCU film. haha
It was just a result of the Marvel Studios MO. In Phase 1, they were reliant on established names who they knew could deliver a blockbuster film like Joe Johnston, Louis Leterrier, Joss Whedon, Shane Black. But around about 2013 or so, they instead started going for young directors who haven't yet made a name for themselves yet still have experience on film production, so that Feige and co could more easily control the movies, the storylines, the big CGI fight scenes, etc., while leaving all the busywork of actually shooting to the director. This is why the vast majority of MCU directors are: >indie directors (Taika, James Gunn, Scott Derickson, Jon Watts, Chloe Zhao)
or >TV directors (the Russos, Alan Taylor who did Thor 2, Peyton Reed)
And at first the director is just happy to have just a big job, but it's become increasingly clear in the past few years that directing an MCU film is pretty creatively limited. There are clearly those who are happy to play along, like the Russos, Watts, Reed, but you'd be hard pressed to say that any of the Marvel films by these guys have any real creative juice or directorial voice to them aside from James Gunn's.
But back to Waititi, Ragnarok just really put him on the map. I think it was a combination of the fact that Thor was such an ignored series until that film, and then he went straight into doing Jojo Rabbit as an Oscar-bait/Reddit-bait drama/comedy (relatively) quickly after that.
>went straight into doing Jojo Rabbit as an Oscar-bait/Reddit-bait drama/comedy (relatively)
You know he peppers in these shitty heartfelt moments so that hipster and redditor viewers will say things like "I know he's being ironic but this scene actually kinda slaps, he can be brilliant when he wants!" so he can enjoy his pretentious indie status but also get the mainstream validation he craves.
It was just a result of the Marvel Studios MO. In Phase 1, they were reliant on established names who they knew could deliver a blockbuster film like Joe Johnston, Louis Leterrier, Joss Whedon, Shane Black. But around about 2013 or so, they instead started going for young directors who haven't yet made a name for themselves yet still have experience on film production, so that Feige and co could more easily control the movies, the storylines, the big CGI fight scenes, etc., while leaving all the busywork of actually shooting to the director. This is why the vast majority of MCU directors are: >indie directors (Taika, James Gunn, Scott Derickson, Jon Watts, Chloe Zhao)
or >TV directors (the Russos, Alan Taylor who did Thor 2, Peyton Reed)
And at first the director is just happy to have just a big job, but it's become increasingly clear in the past few years that directing an MCU film is pretty creatively limited. There are clearly those who are happy to play along, like the Russos, Watts, Reed, but you'd be hard pressed to say that any of the Marvel films by these guys have any real creative juice or directorial voice to them aside from James Gunn's.
But back to Waititi, Ragnarok just really put him on the map. I think it was a combination of the fact that Thor was such an ignored series until that film, and then he went straight into doing Jojo Rabbit as an Oscar-bait/Reddit-bait drama/comedy (relatively) quickly after that.
>Can you believe something sad happened in a WWII movie that takes place in Germany?!
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Not remotely what was said, homosexual. Don't disgrace The Dude with your shitty, disingenuous posts.
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What other "drama filled moment" could you possibly be talking about in fricking JoJo Rabbit other than the mom being hanged part?
Dude is doing pretty well at HBO and other Hollywood studios for it to not matter. At this point, anything less than sucking the Mouse's dick is considered "burning bridges". Considering all the shitstorm stories that have come out of making Marvel movies, Star Wars, and their animated films being theatrically sabotaged because of Disney+, only broke homies WOULD be the ones to want to work there right now.
idk why this is surprising to anybody.
I remember watching this video where he said he doesn't really do research for any of the movies he makes. https://youtu.be/0Ef7r-DM8Hg?si=sxjCFO8R10hnMaCz&t=495
I bet he's never actually read a comic in his life and he just hired some intern to tell him what they're about.
>I bet he's never actually read a comic in his life and he just hired some intern to tell him what they're about. > “And ‘Thor,’ let’s face it — it was probably the least popular franchise,” he continued. “I never read ‘Thor’ comics as a kid. That was the comic I’d pick up and be like ‘Ugh.’ And then I did some research on it, and I read one ‘Thor’ comic or 18 pages, or however long they are. I was still baffled by this character.”
>I didn't want to learn about Hitler, I wanted to lambast him.
Doesn't he know that the best parody/satire comes from people who actually know about the subject they're parodying/satirizing?
PROS! > Jyn was great & better than Rey. > Diversity is handled well and is not called attention to nor are the diverse characters unlikable spiteful c**ts like in Last Jedi, they are all endearing & likable. > Score is fricking beautiful. > Final battle is entirely great. > Ending from when the Destroyers crash into the Shield generator to the credits is magnificent. > Vader is a fricking beast during his final scene. > Cinematography and choreography are some of the absolute best of the entire series, massively better than Last fricking Jedi. Shots overlooking the planet towards the end are beautiful. > Gaylan's message to Jyn is emotionally effective. > Krennic is a good villain (but not great). Better than the First Order officers in TFA/TLJ.
SUBJECTIVE PROS or CONS! > CGI Tarkin / Leia (I like their inclusion and felt the cgi worked more than not) > Fan service (there is not even fricking close to being as much as haters claim, there is the cameo by the bar thugs, c3po/r2 and the Rebel pilots. That's basically it) > Seems long. > Jumping across locations in the first 3rd (I liked this)
CONS! > Cast is underdeveloped (I personally thought jyn was developed fine) > Mads is underused.
PROS! > Jyn was great & better than Rey. > Diversity is handled well and is not called attention to nor are the diverse characters unlikable spiteful c**ts like in Last Jedi, they are all endearing & likable. > Score is fricking beautiful. > Final battle is entirely great. > Ending from when the Destroyers crash into the Shield generator to the credits is magnificent. > Vader is a fricking beast during his final scene. > Cinematography and choreography are some of the absolute best of the entire series, massively better than Last fricking Jedi. Shots overlooking the planet towards the end are beautiful. > Gaylan's message to Jyn is emotionally effective. > Krennic is a good villain (but not great). Better than the First Order officers in TFA/TLJ.
SUBJECTIVE PROS or CONS! > CGI Tarkin / Leia (I like their inclusion and felt the cgi worked more than not) > Fan service (there is not even fricking close to being as much as haters claim, there is the cameo by the bar thugs, c3po/r2 and the Rebel pilots. That's basically it) > Seems long. > Jumping across locations in the first 3rd (I liked this)
CONS! > Cast is underdeveloped (I personally thought jyn was developed fine) > Mads is underused.
Rogue One is the only New-Wars movie that's actually good or worth re-watching, this guy's right.
Edwards' cinematography was amazing but he can't direct actors for shit. They looked bored out of their minds. It's not prequel tier wooden but its close.
>Love and Thunder was shit >His newest movie is also doing shit >"U-UH THE ONE THAT EVERYONE LIKES YEAH THAT WAS JUST A PAYCHECK TO ME"
Like, nothing against him for working for the money but considering the performances of his next movies it really just comes off as cope even as someone who thinks the MCU was a mistake.
You know who else was in the Thor movies? Christopher Eccleston, the man who explicitly stated he does Doctor Who audios for the money, and probably that Thor movie too.
I wonder how he must've felt after watching Love and Thunder for the first time >"alright, I guess I'm finally part of the Marvel machine, even though I didn't want to do another comic book film after Batman, just for my kids." >they cut out all his best scenes and just left his villain with as little screen time as possible >and then everything else in the movie is an embarrassing, childish mess, the worst possible example of an MCU film
>Get btfo >Wait a few hours >Remember your reddit username isn't attached to your posts >Spam replies suddenly hoping you'll get the last word and can go to bed instead of seething all night
Yep. Sounds like he lost alright
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wow
I wonder if he feels the same way towards Akira and the incal
probably, he feels like the most ABOVE ALL THIS LAME NERD SHIT of them all.
At least those two have some sort of built in prestige to them. Thor sans Kirby isn't all that special.
Typical hipster.
>hipster
most people do not give a FRICK about thor
At least he's being honest about it. Feels like most of the frickheads in Hollywood actively hate comics
If marvel was still successful he would be singing a different tune
>Feels like most of the frickheads in Hollywood actively hate comics
Only the old school directors seething at their success and the tryhard newcomers trying to suck up to their betters.
Pretty sure Marty hates shitty movies, not comics
Not even talking about him specifically, but he's just doing this "protector of cinema" bit for engagement.
Yes, because Martin Scorsese so desperately needs clicks
Marty has made shitty movies for two decades so idk about all that
gay
>Only the old school directors seething at their success and the tryhard newcomers trying to suck up to their betters.
Tarantino, Spielberg, Cameron, etc all grew up with Marvel Comics
Cameron was only a Spider-Man guy..
Del Toro
Stephan Hawking
George RR Martin
John Singleton
etc
>Feels like most of the frickheads in Hollywood actively hate comics
Yeah because comics actually told stories when they were kids and now they're just BLM troon propaganda
almost none of these people read comics when they were kids, thats why they are in hollywood in the first place
Keep bringing up a non existent boogeyman though
Tarantino said he read comics you fat Black personhomosexual
He’s younger and doesnt make comic movies, you troon
Good job with the cherrypick tho
Tarantino was going to direct a Luke Cage movie in the 90s but it never got off the ground.
he also wanted to make a Silver Surfer movie, and recently wanted to make a Howling Commandos movie
>boogeyman
Maybe if you are poor don't have a second child
Cool it with the racism chud.
Can't wait to see Akira turned into a souless quip fest
yeah I'm sure Taika "Waititi" was going to starve if he didn't direct a marvel movie.
The real solution is for more people to support different kinds of movies.
Condoms are significantly cheaper than children. Can I get the reigns to a blockbuster movie if I'm in financial straits?
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
and he made a movie 100 times better than "the marvels" makes you think huh
Do you think the director of the marvels was a fan of any of those characters?
The Marvels was actually fun and didn't have any outdated overused screaming goats so agree to disagree
>The Marvels was actually fun
dial 8
What an incredibly homosexual way of saying "yeah it turns out I got lucky with Thor 3 and I'm a one-trick pony". Stop trying to be quirky homie, you just aren't funny and can't tell a story
Directors always do this. Take a job for money and if it’s successful bask in their grace as an auteur and if it fails blame the lackluster script/source/producers
I know, but I will never stop calling them homosexuals for what they do to pre-existing stories and characters. Someone should always do it, I don't care how autistic it is.
>I’m a c**t fanboy
We already knew that
Don't samegay, Taika, you're just embarrassing yourself.
It's the only one that felt anything like a Thor story
>I'm a c**t mouse shill
We already knew that
No one cares what you think you stupid homosexual.
Take that dick out of your mouth dronie
I don’t disagree. I’m just saying it’s extremely common. IMO as imperfect as it was Thor 1 remains the best of his solo films.
The direction bugs me, because Kenneth Branagh literally just thought that "Dutch angles = comic book," but it's the only one of the Thor films that really gets the tone right aside from the Kat Dennings comedy bits
Plus, the visuals for Asgard are great, and for some reason it just stopped looking like that after this first appearance.
I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
Then they make it a fricking joke and everyone loves it, but then they started to hate it because the joke went too far.
I think people were more sold over Thor fights Hulk, Cate Blanchett as Hela, Jeff Goldblum as the Grandmaster and Surtur. Because other than quips from Korg, people don't really talk about this movie other than what I just mentioned and the one actual Waititi thing they talk about is Korg. And Korg proved a one trick pony.
This is the same movie that has Thor getting easily tased and Loki easily getting tricked.
>I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
People didn't hate Thor 1, they hated The Dark World
Thor 1 would've been the start of a solid standalone franchise if not for the shared universe
The Dark World was fine. People only starting shitting on it to prop up Ragnarok which makes me think it was manufactured.
People were shitting on The Dark World as soon as it came out, anon
The Dark World was shit, the antagonist alone was complete dogshit and these movies live or die based on their villains. Hell, as bad as Thor 4 was at least they gave Bale *something* to give a shit about for his performance. Eccleston was completely squandered, easily one of the most forgettable MCU villains.
>I hate how the one time they tried playing Thor and the Asgardian mythos straight, people hated it.
People did not dislike Dark World for it being serious, they disliked it because the villain was the worst of the MCU until post-EG and it had way too much of the Kat Dennings comedy.
>The Dark World was fine
Agreed.
DARK WORLD
CONS
> Comedy interrupts the end battle too much altho not half as bad as Ragnarok.
> Malekith is unquestionably the weakest Mcu villain and doesn't even have a cool or faithful design.
> Thor throwing the flimsy science poles at Malekith at the end looked silly.
> Not much done with Portman or the romance.
PROS
> Thor's outfit is much better than his suits in Thor1 or Avengers1.
> More for Heimdall to do.
> Loki is fun as always and got more to do here then he did in Ragnarok.
> Kurse is cool looking and fairly menacing, him beating Thor into the ground was brutal.
> Final battle is creative with the portals.
> Frigga's death & funeral is great. Score is beautiful. Thor's reaction to her death, blasting Malekith's face with Lightning was great.
> A little bit more for Sif & the warriors 3 to do.
> Showed us more of Asgard, their technology and history.
> Flashbacks to Odin's father Bor should have been longer but were cool none the less and Bor was perfectly cast.
RAGNAROK
PROS
> Skurge's outfit is perfect.
> Hela's outfit is perfect.
> Thor's design once his hair is cut is damn good.
> Odin's death was good, better then the original version with him being stabbed in a filthy alley.
> Gladiator match is good & Hulk's CGI in it is better then it is the rest of the film.
> Tessa is decent and has some fun mannerisms.
> Hemsworth is more fun then in previous films.
> The flashbacks to Hela slaughtering the Valkyries is visually fantastic and a wiener tease of what the Thor films should have looked like the entire time (Lord of the Rings + Zach Snyder)
> Loki is still good and fun to watch.
> Elba is given slightly more to do.
> The "get help" joke is genuinely funny.
> Them using the music from the first film at the end was well done (until they ruined it with the rock guy thinking he killed his friend)
Loki became a joke completely by the time of Ragnarok, you fricking moron.
Yeah, he was always an overrated shit villain but Ragnarok is what made him a fricking clown completely.
>anything nice about negress Valkyrie
have a nice day.
>uses the word negress unironically
Opinion disregarded
RAGNAROK
CONS
> The film has zero emotional weight after Odin's death. The Guardians films get away with their humor because before Infinity War they had the most emotional impact of the entire Mcu. This had none of that balance. The entire time I was watching Ragnarok I was saying to myself "Gunn could have done this so much better".
> The humor is unbearably awkward and fake feeling, like a bad SNL skit. It went genuinely into Scary Movie/Movie 42 spoof vibe territory. The scenes with the Grandmaster especially.
> Hela is just as flat a villain as Malekith or Ronan but is given a pass because she is alot more badass then them.
> The sets and outfits on Sakaar look disgustingly cheap. Instead of celebrating the mythos (like aquaman did) and bringing Jack Kirby's designs to life they literally use his art as fricking wallpaper.
> Valkyrie looks and acts nothing like any version of the character in the comics.
> Surtur in the comics is a dark apocalyptic figure as menacing as Galactus, here he is a god damn joke.
> A major complaint against the first 2 films was them doing nothing with the warriors 3 and this film does the same but full on kills them off. People give Snyder crap for killing off Jimmy Olsen in Bvs but give this a pass, hypocritical c**ts.
> Doctor Strange is wasted.
> Jeff Goldblum is wasted.
> Ruffalo is wasted.
> Karl Urban / Skurge is wasted and his death (one of the most emotionally powerful in all of comics) is done as a afterthought.
> The destruction of Asgard is given little to no weight. We could have gotten something tragic & beautiful (Thor - Disassembled) but they pissed in our faces instead.
>Hela is just as flat a villain as Malekith or Ronan
Frick no. She's not a particularly good villain but she has a far more interesting hook, look, and the actress is actually allowed to emote. Malekith sucks a bag of donkey dick, Ronan is alright.
>> A major complaint against the first 2 films was them doing nothing with the warriors 3 and this film does the same but full on kills them off. People give Snyder crap for killing off Jimmy Olsen in Bvs but give this a pass, hypocritical c**ts
Not only were they unceremoniously killed off, there was no emotional reaction from Thor, so we didn't even get the one benefit of killing off supporting characters.
Based PROS and CONS poster
Thor 1 on Asgard was pretty
It was important that different Marvel movies had their own visual identity
>It was important that different Marvel movies had their own visual identity
This is the biggest reason as to why the modern MCU sucks to me. Past a certain point, they just stopped trying to make their films feel distinct. They all started to be shot the same way, scored the same way, dialogue written the same way, action scenes playing out the same way using the same kind of effects and CGI and that just turned the whole thing into this generic deluge of Marvel movies and shows. Not only is that dull filmmaking, but it betrays the spirit of what makes comic books enjoyable. I really enjoy seeing different writers and artists having their own takes on certain characters and yet also having the whole group effort in making it a cohesive universe where all these different kinds of characters and stories can coexist.
But the MCU stopped trying to do that after about 2013. For a while, it seemed people were fooled enough by them claiming "oh this is a political thriller but Marvel, this one is a Marvel heist film, this one is Marvel's take on John Hughes" until it was painfully obvious that none of those marketing spiels were ever true. Even James Gunn's Guardian movies, the most distinct, personalised series in the MCU, is really only different in terms of writing and even then, it's hardly a major stylistic difference. They all just merge.
The comic book equivalent of the MCU is if every single comic Marvel had put out in the 60s was drawn by Don Heck. Doesn't matter how many different characters or series there'd be, they'd still all look the same and be boring as hell.
>Past a certain point, they just stopped trying to make their films feel distinct. They all started to be shot the same way, scored the same way, dialogue written the same way, action scenes playing out the same way using the same kind of effects and CGI and that just turned the whole thing into this generic deluge of Marvel movies and shows
Not trying to make excuses for Marvel but I think the reasoning is that past a certain point the movies being stylistically distinct becomes a problem when the whole point is to feel like one consistent setting where every movie takes place in the same universe.
If one person rocks the boat by making kino that's nothing like the other movies then that would screw up everything else. Plus the whole "hiring literal whos with no bargaining power" and being scared of taking risks thing. I hate it too.
I know why they do it, but that doesn't stop them from being formulaic and creatively uninteresting. Especially when Phase 1 and early Phase 2 showed that they could bring in experienced directors and have them make distinct movies that nevertheless worked together.
The worst part is when shit like Eternals and Multiverse of Madness flop. In a lot of mainstream reviews, the blame for those two films wasn't placed on poor creative decisions or obvious studio meddling/mandates, but instead on the fact that these movies apparently strayed from the MCU formula and gave their directors TOO MUCH freedom. It's insane.
MoM felt like a zoomer trying to make his own Sam Raimi movie after watching the SM trilogy. There was no way Raimi had any creative control on that movie.
He was a replacement director, and it painfully shows in the finished film. There's only a small handful of scenes in the whole thing that it felt like Sam Raimi would do. It's such a shame as well since I'd absolutely love to see a proper Dr Strange film by the man, without him having to adhere to studio demands or any wider MCU tie-ins. Imagine if we got something on the same level or creativity and actual madness as an Evil Dead film.
Instead, rumours are saying that they're planning for Dr Strange 3 to AGAIN tie into their shitty, dead-in-the-water Multiverse Saga instead of just being a simple fricking Dr Strange movie.
>Not only is that dull filmmaking, but it betrays the spirit of what makes comic books enjoyable
100%
>Past a certain point, they just stopped trying to make their films feel distinct.
They stopped doing it the second they won legitimacy through making money and hiring well known directors. But from
the very start they were fricking over the directors who wanted to do something with the IP. Kenneth Branagh has talked about it. They wanted Thor to be Shakespearean in all the PR hype but behind the scenes they were telling him no.
I think Avengers is the exact cutoff point when every movie started feeling like a CW show, speaking from visual aesthetic standpoint.
All of the MCU movies until the first Avengers were shot on film.
>past a certain point
Still the best Thor film for having him wear the fricking helmet
You are doing God's work
Absolutely fricking based and every moron who said Ragnarok was good is BTFO. It was always trash and I couldn’t get why anyone thought it was anything but trash
Literally me
Even as a kid I'm like "why is historically relevant god a superhero"
>yep I just needed a paycheck, Marvel is slop
lmao
Doing it for the money instead of following some inspired vision, is something I can more than respect.
But doing it while harbouring outright disrespect for the source material of the movie? Frick that.
>Man does work for money
Why is this soo shocking? Is it just boomers who believe that you need to pour your heart and soul into every job you do?
Everyone is aware of this, we can still vocalize that they're lazy homosexuals. Everyone takes a job for a paycheck but putting in the bare minimum effort and not admitting to faults is nig tier behavior.
tbf, that's just poor management if you hire someone who clearly doesn't give two shits and is doing bare minimum work.
Difference between laziness and not being motivated. If you outright tell me you have zero interest in being a Pokemon UNITE competitive player, but I still offer you a million dollars to play a full season of it, you'll probably do it. You'll have zero motivation to actually get better and you'll probably still dislike the game, but you'll still do it.
>cashgrab was shit
Checks out when will the mouse learn that
>And then I did some research on it.
>I was still baffled by this character
Same
same but for every MCU character that isn't Spiderman
Well that explains why Ragnarok was schizophrenic garbage.
Kinda sounds like cope. I have no doubt he took the job for the dosh, but I very much doubt he was this blaze about it at the time. He's probably just trying to pretend he never cared because his art sucked.
He's butthurt that he created the worst Thor film, which is really saying something. Dumb frick couldn't do comedy, couldn't give cancer the weight it deserved, and sure as hell couldn't commit to god butchering either. He failed on every level
I'm just glad he wasn't able to fricking ruin Beta Ray Bill
Shhshshshshs SHUT....UP....Don't give Disney ideas to use Bill goddammit!
Checked.
Beta Ray Bill will be in Thor 5. You're welcome.
I don't want that! I love Bill, and I don't want to see his reputation tarnished. They're too late to do him anyway
Hope he's actually spending time with his kids instead of being an obnoxious homosexual on some other production right now.
Hate to break it to Cinemaphile but every MCU director is only in it for the money. The sole exception might be Gunn because he refuses to make anything besides CBMs
The guy that directed the Ant-Man films has been wanting to make a Fantastic Four film for so long that he said frick it and turned the third film into a weird F4 fanfic using the Ant-Man family
I was forced to watch Ragnarok in high school sci fi class (because a kid suggested that the class watch it even though its fantasy). Obnoxious, unfunny,smarmy, and dumb as frick. The fall of Asgard having no emotional weight epitomizes the MCU's shallowness and Taika's writing issues.
Never watched any of Taika's other movies.
Now THAT'S what I call "cope".
>Hollywood israelite
>starving children
Thor Ragnarok sucked, but people were just watching for the cinematic universe connections anyway. At this point, nobody cares about Marvel is doing so I don't see how it matters now. Hope his kids are doing well, that's better than some dumb Thor movie being slightly better under a different director.
Did anybody REALLY think we were getting World War Hulk with the current Marvel Cinematic direction?
Sounds like Love and Thunder was shit, good thing I forgot about going to see it.
Just what? Dark world flopped,Thor was removed from civil war, Portman dropped ragnarok. Secret de Polichinelle so to speak
I'm sure the visual effects artists he and the other b***h shat on publicly when Love & Thunder got terrible reviews were also trying to feed their children.
>has a threesome on set
Based
I'm sorry, what?
Taika Waititi and his gf fricked Tessa Thompson. It was all over the Internet, since evenI know about that
Google it
What a piece of shit.
Dude is a rich as frick israelite in new zealand.
Some other director who had passion for the project with a lot less money in his name could have had this movie as it's big break.
And maybe it would have been good instead of the shitshow that this made.
lmao i guess he got the boot for real.
At least now we know he will never touch Star Wars.
i still find it amazing that this guy walked up to natalie portman and asked her if she wanted to be the main character of a star wars movie he had in mind.
he is doing a live action akira movie?
It's been on development hell for years thankfully but the latest update was that he was directing yeah
I have no hope for a live action movie if ~~*taika waititi*~~ is involved in anyway.
The only movie from him i like is "what we do in the shadows"
This dude only is good at humor, he cant do serious movies.
Anyone could make a serious movie lol, what is hard is making a comedy
If you think akira should be a comedy have a nice day.
I mean it’s not like he says they shouldnt be made. He’s one of the foremost archivists in the medium. He just thinks people need to watch more than action films.
>Akria as a comedy
I... I kinda want to see it just to see how badly it's mangled.
Here
If the wienerbite knows that little of Star Wars than he shouldn't be making star wars shit at all
Oh My Gawd! He did Thor Ragnarok for the money and not art?!!?
>ITT butthurt neckbeards get angry that people don’t treat comic boom movies as sacred projects
I just hate all lack of sincerity
>sincerity
>in hollywood blockbusters
He's being sincere stating he did a job for the money. What's the issue there?
I get glowing feedback at my job from my colleagues and they all sure as hell are aware that the moment I stop being paid I'm out
The MCU has never been sincere though. It's all filtered through ironic cynicism by people who are embarrassed by/actively dislike comic books but love money.
You're on a weird site then.
>>ITT butthurt neckbeards get angry that people don’t treat comic boom movies as sacred projects
so? People can't get mad that they shat all over Walt Simonson's Ragnarok storyline?
>Expecting any MCU movie adapting a specific story arc to be an accurate or pleasing
LMAAAAOOOOOO
so? That means we can't express disappointment? That they didn't even TRY to get into the same ballpark
You should know better. But instead you just cream your pants over tiny bits of fan service like a sad little nerd
We know it's you, Taika
The average comic nerd could beat you up because you're a theater kid homosexual with a reddit sense of humor so don't pretend to be tough
Go back to your stinky country
>I-I could beat y-you up!
Not if you don’t remember to bring your inhaler. And don’t get a heart attack coming up the stairs
And that asthmatic fat frick could still beat up a Taika Waititi fan so stop acting cool
>But instead you just cream your pants over tiny bits of fan service like a sad little nerd
no, that's you - since you're running interference for Taika in this thread.
These homosexuals don't actually believe a word they say. They try to make passionate criticism of a bad story out to be petulant whining, but the simple fact that they responded shows their true nature. They're invested in the same homosexualy ideology that spawns these shit films, so any real critique of it weakens their political position. We get passionate, they get mad, but they can't show that they're mad, so they hide behind a veil of dismissive indifference, pretending that they don't care. But they still respond to every comment, they're very butt hurt.
>I’m being passionate!
Okay, so you’re a “passionate” c**t. Happy?
And you're a slimy little twat goblin hiding behind a thin veneer of smug indifference.
I'd rather be honest and let people judge me as they will than be a cowardly pissant hiding in a crowd.
>NOOOO DON'T EVER CRITICIZE MY GOD TAIKA WAITITI
Nta, but you're the only c**t around here.
Still mad you got btfo here lmao
>anon makes point
>the poster he was making the point against comes along and shows the point was absolutely correct
You sound like the type of homosexual who doesn’t have any passion for media yet defends it constantly just to be a contrarian.
Genuinely what is your purpose here other than farming (You)s?
I’m one of the few adults in a room full of immature brats whining about how their feelings are hurt because a director only directed Thor part 3 and 4 for the money and openly admits it when he can’t be sued for breaching his contract
>I’m one of the few adults in a room full of immature brats whining about how their feelings are hurt
"adult" in the room defending Taika's """""humor"""""?
"adult" in the room getting assmad people vocalize their displeasure with adaptations not respecting the source material?
bump
Wait, so you're telling me that a movie director took a superhero-gig only because of money? I'm shook! SHOOK!
Whats next... You expect me to believe that The Dark Knight wasnt Chrtistopher Nolans passion project?
TDK was probably the one Nolan was most passionate about. Batman Begins was a money gig, and TDKR was a contractual obligation.
I thought he only made TDK so WB would fund Inception.
>I thought he only made TDK so WB would fund Inception.
no, he only got into big studio movies so he could learn how to execute on Inception
he literally said Richard Donner's Superman movie was an inspiration for casting in Oppenheimer
>he literally said Richard Donner's Superman movie was an inspiration for casting in Oppenheimer
how so?
Marlon Brando as Superman's dad
the idea of casting a strong supporting cast with some big names to bolster the movie (and the lesser known lead actor)
yeah thats smart.
I think Nolan was at least somewhat genuinely interested in a sequel to The Dark Knight until Ledger died.
Absolute horseshit conjecture anon. Begins oozes with a passion TDKR lacks. BB and TDK are both great films, begins is a better Batman film though both are inarguably the best live action Batman films ever.
TDKR is clearly for the check.
Begins was filmed on his garage with friends on a tiny set they built.
TDK had real life locations because he realised people didn't gave a damn about his toy city and CGI was easier.
>Whats next... You expect me to believe that The Dark Knight wasnt Chrtistopher Nolans passion project?
yes? Not everyone disliked the concept of superheroes until the MCU flooded the zone in the most formulaic, banal fashion
in fact, many directors (including well known ones) were attached to various comic book adaptations in the past at various studios
Del Toro with Doctor Strange, for example
I dont remember Christopher Nolan talking about Batman with contempt after The Dark Knight Rises came out.
TDK is the best superhero movie ever for a reason
Could just be me, but this sounds like sour grapes.
because it is.
He had a lot of shit for how bad the movie was.
And his cope is "i didnt want to make it anyway"
Yeah, that's the vibe I'm getting. If he were being genuine, he'd have come out about this years ago, not when Marvel is at its nadir.
>If he were being genuine, he'd have come out about this years ago
So you completely memory holed how he shit talked the CGI for Thor 4 just as the movie was coming out, huh?
No, that was him shifting blame onto the CGI artists though, not denigrating Marvel movies as a whole. It was a sign of things to come.
He was shitting on his own movie
No, he was shitting on other people's work on his movie. He never denigrated his own part of the film, never fessed up to his own short comings. He wasn't ready to shit on the whole of marvel just yet, but he was already distancing himself. Now that The Marvel's has officially signed the MCU's death certificate, he's cutting all ties and fleeing like a rat from a sinking ship.
Stop trying to make excuses
>He never denigrated his own part of the film
It’s all his movie. He said it while promoting his movie.
What's it like living with your head so far up your own ass? At least you can catch any polyps early I suppose.
Reddit tier response
Discord tier response. You will never be one of us, and you will never control the discourse here.
>Blah blah blah I'm from Reddit and can't argue
Pathetic.
lel homie anyone can read the thread, you seriously need to get out of your own head if you see this as a 'win'
dude went hard into you
>dude went hard into you
You might want to rephrase that
No need, he's spot on.
I went into you hard, fast, without any lube. you're my b***h now and the whole thread knows it b***h.
Don't bother.
Let this pigeon strut across his shit smeared chessboard.
You failed to address the other anon's point. You're so butt blasted about this you think that you're arguing with the same poster when it was two to begin with, homosexual. Not only that but because you're too much of a pussy to bother arguing your points the whole thread can smell your blatant samegayging (hours later on top of that, holy shit) a mile away. Just accept that Waititi's movies suck dick. You don't need to defend them, even he admitted they suck.
Could you seethe any more?
>No u
I accept your concession. Go and sin no more.
This whole thing started with you seething about people not liking Ragnarok
>point
You homosexuals have no point, all you have are whataboutisms and misdirection.
>and misdirection.
Projection
You? Lose.
Me? I WIN.
>You? Lose.
>Me? I WIN.
Also, Nobody here is defending LaT, we know it sucks. I can't even begin to fathom what sort of argument you were even attempting to make, then I reminded myself that you moronic Discord trannies are spew whatever bullshit you like to try and throw people of their guard.
It won't work, you will always be a homosexual, and you can't gaslight us.
>Wall of text
Holy MAD
>Wall of text
>Holy MAD
You're a worthless shill, cowering behind a veneer of indifference and false self assurance. I can't be discouraged my cretins like you, it is beyond your meager abilities homosexual.
>You're a worthless shill
You're the one who had to stick up for some homosexual MCU director.
see
This quite literally started with you shitting yourself about people criticizing Ragnarok / Love and Thunder, acting above it all while getting mad and spamming replies on a Chinese cartoon board.
Link to the post.
You can't. I have been critiquing that shit ass film and the moron who made it this entire thread.
So, either you are either a stupid or a liar.
Here, take your pick.
Inb4 screencap after refreshing/changing tabs/whatever. They all reek of your midwit Redditor attitude. Don't try and switch your stance for a tenth time.
Calling you a c**t and mocking you doesn’t mean someone is defending the movie. They’re just accurately painting you as a butthurt neckbeard and you’re kneejerk bleeding asshurt proves it because you’re personally insulted when people say you’re taking a comic book movie too seriously
>So, either you are either a stupid or a liar.
Hey, not all of us can be both, like you
>Get shut down with hard facts that Taika Waititi shit on his own movie
>Ad hominem because you lost
>Continue to samegay with comebacks that reek of a basedboy thinking he's clever
The only thing going hard is your head into the wall apparently
homie got so triggered over any criticism of this movie that he (you) had to act as if nobody here can dare criticize the films that most fans can agree on as being a weak point in the MCU or else it makes you a "c**t" for having an opinion
I've never seen such fruity replies that I think you must be a woman or actually Taika Waititi with how fricking upset that got you
I'm sorry you chose gargling Taika Waititi's balls as the hill you want to die on but you're not going to find much support here, believe it or not some people here have actually read comics and aren't going to blindly eat whatever shitty Hollywood slop from some hipster director
Frick off and don't come back because your corporate shilling is more embarrassing than your inability to form a coherent argument
>I wrote a wall of text
>But I am NOT mad!!!!!!
You lost btw
>Gap between agreeing posts getting shorter and shorter
Kek
Its short because unlike you, there are more than a few people in this thread who can recognize the stench of your axe wound and the accompanying arguments.
You accuse others of the crimes that you commit.
Are these trannies in the room with us, anon?
>realized the ship sailed and he won't be on it anymore
>tries to pull a Scorsese
>when he made possibly the worst capeshit ever released evem Chris "no expressions" Hamsworth was ashamed of it
But he was doing it for the money 🙁 so please don't look at his origins he's just your avarage Joe who tries to reach the end of the month.
>his origins
>a single mother who was a teacher
>whose family was from the part of the world where israelites weren't rich
okay...
>both his parents never had wealth problems
>"but they divorced!"
Aww, poor Taika.
>some random claim presented without evidence that has no obvious bearing on anything
sorry, what is the actual argument you're making here?
>"only i can say things without evidence, the rest of you shall spoonfed me with the source to your claims"
My message wasn't directed at a drone like you. But it was pretty funny to watch you seethe over it. Also always remember this:
My word >>> your word
Should be pretty simple to understand even for you.
you're reaching pretty hard if you thought not buying your "argument" that a teacher is rich means someone is mad
but it's obvious you're just here to scream and cry about nothing, so you can be ignored
>when he made possibly the worst capeshit ever released evem Chris "no expressions" Hamsworth was ashamed of it
Thor 4 sucked but it's not even the worst Thor movie.
not sure what you're pretending is news here
>guy in career field of directing offered a job
>takes job to get money
This would be like complaining that a world-class chef working at McDonald’s should care about the subtle details of Big Macs. A job is a job.
Time to stop acting like people making corporate slop care about it as much as you consoomers do. He just made a movie to further his career and make the shit he actually wants to make, it’s not his fault you all cared too much about it.
Only thing he isnt a world class cheff, he is a mediocre cheff who gets uplifted by his fellow ~~*chefs*~~
Are there even any other directors besides Raimi and Snyder that didnt do their superhero movie solely because it was a career/money-opportunity?
Genuine nerds doing passion projects are rare. And more often than not they also suck
>Snyder
He literally said he didn't read any superhero comics besides Watchmen because it had sex and violence. His interests are in being an edgy Randian, not comics.
he obviously had passion for his cut of the Justice League to campaign so hard for its release. I think MoS is ass but JL had genuine love behind it.
I suppose I can say he cared more about Justice League than Whedon
Whedon didn't even care about the Avengers if he gave his Captain America such a shitty characterization. He'll be forever known as the "reference" and "language" guy even though he never did anything of the sort in the comics or anywhere else really.
>He'll be forever known as the "reference" and "language" guy
Neither of those are bad jokes for Captain America
Guillermo Del Toro is a genuine nerd
it's not anyone else's problem that you're an idiot.
So on a scale on 1 to 10, how mad is he right now?
Why does he look like the principal of a highschool
I mean that's just a symptom of his larger problem, which is that the MCU has lost its prestige very suddenly.
That's why directors who aren't going to work for him again, like Waititi and DaCosta, are talking about how it's just a job, it's really Feige's movie, etc. It's true, but they can increase their prestige by distancing themselves from the MCU.
It's the same problem that made Fantastic Four hard to cast. Two years ago they could get anyone they wanted, which is how they were able to get and waste so many stars for Thor 4.
tbf I didn't want Portman back, b***h gave such a hack performance in The Dark World I got soured on her as an actress in general.
She shouldn't have come back and I have no idea why she did, except that the MCU was so big, and it might be bad for her career if Disney wanted her for a big story and she turned it down.
One of the few good things about the current state of the MCU is thinking about Harrison Ford realizing that this is the third straight dying franchise he signed up for.
Ford is 81 years old. He’s just doing projects he thinks are either fun or allows him to do something he hasn’t really done before. And it probably pays well.
Ford fricking hates some of his characters tho, money i can buy but i dont think it was the first two reasons
The marketing from the latest Indy felt pretty fake to me tbh
Scorcese and Coppala were right long before the MCU's fall.
>Coppala were right long before the MCU's fall.
didn't Coppala enjoy Black Panther 1?
>very suddenly.
It's been on decline since Civil War and audiences got enough of it after Endgame, not only for the tagline as the final movie, Disney marketing as the final movie but also because it was soo bad no one feel invested into whatever happened next.
Hes not mad
Its not about the money its about ~~*the message*~~
Uncle Larry will bail him out
>makes shit movie
>movie flops
>AKCHUALLY it wasn't my fault and here's the reason: 43_GB_it_wasn't_my_fault_and_other_excuses.PDF
hollywood is such a fricking garbage place
The worst part is watching these bumbling twits constantly fail upward. Must be nice to have all of their failures cushioned by layers upon layers of nepotism and government backing.
Whatever happened to doing your best and having pride in your work no matter the source material?
How could he have possibly been poor? Didn't he already do JoJo Rabbit and What We Do In the Shadows beforehand? Does he have some open-secret drug problem I'm not aware of?
Wanting money is one thing. Saying you're "poor" is a very different implication.
No, Jojo Rabbit was after Raganrok.
I think all he'd done before then was WWDITS and Hunt for the Wilderpeople.
And Flight of the Concords.
What We Do In the Shadows and Wilderpeople were both small budget New Zealand movies that got cult attention. The TV adaptation for WWDITS didn’t happen until two years after Ragnarok, and Taika is just an executive producer and wrote like three episodes. Jemaine Clement is way more involved as the creator so he’s the one making any kind of real money from that.
Dang, I guess he really did get lucky with a Marvel job offer.
Duh. It’s one thing to make small budget movies in New Zealand that tbf did well enough to generate some profit and get good critical acclaim, it’s another thing entirely to direct 180-250 million dollar budget blockbuster movies. He became a household name with Ragnarok. That’s what these movies are to most people Marvel (and Hollywood) largely hires, they’re a stepping stone to get some leverage so you can do bigger projects that actually mean something if you deliver a movie that makes bank.
>That’s what these movies are to most people Marvel (and Hollywood) largely hires, they’re a stepping stone to get some leverage so you can do bigger projects that actually mean something if you deliver a movie that makes bank.
The difference is someone like Nolan did Insomnia and knew how to work the studio system (he also did Prestige in between BB and TDK)
All these Marvel hires just get thrown into big leagues after being low budget indie directors
>All these Marvel hires just get thrown into big leagues after being low budget indie directors
They're easier to control that way. These literal whos have zero clout and can't tell the studio "no" unless they wanna get fired. So they do what they're told. Plus the action scenes are already worked out before the directors even show up.
Nolan can tell the studios to get fricked if they cross him and he's powerful enough that they have to listen to his every demand.
>They're easier to control that way. These literal whos have zero clout and can't tell the studio "no" unless they wanna get fired
Being indie also means the instant tunblr fanbase will a bit more likely to watch the MCU film. haha
It was just a result of the Marvel Studios MO. In Phase 1, they were reliant on established names who they knew could deliver a blockbuster film like Joe Johnston, Louis Leterrier, Joss Whedon, Shane Black. But around about 2013 or so, they instead started going for young directors who haven't yet made a name for themselves yet still have experience on film production, so that Feige and co could more easily control the movies, the storylines, the big CGI fight scenes, etc., while leaving all the busywork of actually shooting to the director. This is why the vast majority of MCU directors are:
>indie directors (Taika, James Gunn, Scott Derickson, Jon Watts, Chloe Zhao)
or
>TV directors (the Russos, Alan Taylor who did Thor 2, Peyton Reed)
And at first the director is just happy to have just a big job, but it's become increasingly clear in the past few years that directing an MCU film is pretty creatively limited. There are clearly those who are happy to play along, like the Russos, Watts, Reed, but you'd be hard pressed to say that any of the Marvel films by these guys have any real creative juice or directorial voice to them aside from James Gunn's.
But back to Waititi, Ragnarok just really put him on the map. I think it was a combination of the fact that Thor was such an ignored series until that film, and then he went straight into doing Jojo Rabbit as an Oscar-bait/Reddit-bait drama/comedy (relatively) quickly after that.
>went straight into doing Jojo Rabbit as an Oscar-bait/Reddit-bait drama/comedy (relatively)
You know he peppers in these shitty heartfelt moments so that hipster and redditor viewers will say things like "I know he's being ironic but this scene actually kinda slaps, he can be brilliant when he wants!" so he can enjoy his pretentious indie status but also get the mainstream validation he craves.
>Can you believe something sad happened in a WWII movie that takes place in Germany?!
Not remotely what was said, homosexual. Don't disgrace The Dude with your shitty, disingenuous posts.
What other "drama filled moment" could you possibly be talking about in fricking JoJo Rabbit other than the mom being hanged part?
I imagine part of that is at least due to Ant-Man.
who knows? none of us are his accountant bookkeeper
I do believe most people in hollywood are living paycheck to paycheck which is why the strike happened
Peyton Reed would never say this, the guy is incompetent but he does like comics
Why burn bridges like this? He realizes he's in the shitter doesn't he?
Dude is doing pretty well at HBO and other Hollywood studios for it to not matter. At this point, anything less than sucking the Mouse's dick is considered "burning bridges". Considering all the shitstorm stories that have come out of making Marvel movies, Star Wars, and their animated films being theatrically sabotaged because of Disney+, only broke homies WOULD be the ones to want to work there right now.
He's not white so he's guaranteed another job somewhere
Didn't he end up leaving his wife and said kids a year later?
I wonder how the fans who thought he was a terrible choice for Thor before Ragnarok came out and were told to stfu feel right now.
idk why this is surprising to anybody.
I remember watching this video where he said he doesn't really do research for any of the movies he makes. https://youtu.be/0Ef7r-DM8Hg?si=sxjCFO8R10hnMaCz&t=495
I bet he's never actually read a comic in his life and he just hired some intern to tell him what they're about.
>I bet he's never actually read a comic in his life and he just hired some intern to tell him what they're about.
> “And ‘Thor,’ let’s face it — it was probably the least popular franchise,” he continued. “I never read ‘Thor’ comics as a kid. That was the comic I’d pick up and be like ‘Ugh.’ And then I did some research on it, and I read one ‘Thor’ comic or 18 pages, or however long they are. I was still baffled by this character.”
>I didn't want to learn about Hitler, I wanted to lambast him.
Doesn't he know that the best parody/satire comes from people who actually know about the subject they're parodying/satirizing?
Well at least they are admitting the reasons behind their tone-deaf approach to shitting on good stories.
the excuses for his other shitty movies? Didn't wanted to make those either?
So basically every director that doesn't have frick you money to produce their own shit.
Please God!
Please God!
Please God!
rogue one wasn't good
>rogue one wasn't good
Frick You!
PROS!
> Jyn was great & better than Rey.
> Diversity is handled well and is not called attention to nor are the diverse characters unlikable spiteful c**ts like in Last Jedi, they are all endearing & likable.
> Score is fricking beautiful.
> Final battle is entirely great.
> Ending from when the Destroyers crash into the Shield generator to the credits is magnificent.
> Vader is a fricking beast during his final scene.
> Cinematography and choreography are some of the absolute best of the entire series, massively better than Last fricking Jedi. Shots overlooking the planet towards the end are beautiful.
> Gaylan's message to Jyn is emotionally effective.
> Krennic is a good villain (but not great). Better than the First Order officers in TFA/TLJ.
SUBJECTIVE PROS or CONS!
> CGI Tarkin / Leia (I like their inclusion and felt the cgi worked more than not)
> Fan service (there is not even fricking close to being as much as haters claim, there is the cameo by the bar thugs, c3po/r2 and the Rebel pilots. That's basically it)
> Seems long.
> Jumping across locations in the first 3rd (I liked this)
CONS!
> Cast is underdeveloped (I personally thought jyn was developed fine)
> Mads is underused.
Wrong
Rogue One is the only New-Wars movie that's actually good or worth re-watching, this guy's right.
RO is a boring ripoff of SOTE filled with pointless fanservice wank until the last 30 minutes.
THIS anon is right though.
Kyle Katarn supremacy!
I'm also not sure about the ship ramming thing being added to canon.
the script and plot are dogshit but edwards directed the absolute hell out of it
Edwards' cinematography was amazing but he can't direct actors for shit. They looked bored out of their minds. It's not prequel tier wooden but its close.
>OMG people think this is BORING quick make it funny
>Oh no it's too funny GO BACK TO GRIM DARK
fricking hell these people are INCOMPETENT
In other news water is wet
>Love and Thunder was shit
>His newest movie is also doing shit
>"U-UH THE ONE THAT EVERYONE LIKES YEAH THAT WAS JUST A PAYCHECK TO ME"
Like, nothing against him for working for the money but considering the performances of his next movies it really just comes off as cope even as someone who thinks the MCU was a mistake.
Test
What a jerk.
You know who else was in the Thor movies? Christopher Eccleston, the man who explicitly stated he does Doctor Who audios for the money, and probably that Thor movie too.
Why do you think literally anyone makes a marvel movie? It’s always a paycheque for their family or to make a movie they actually want to make
why don't they just hire comic book fans who want to do the characters right
That would be a total of 4 normies
why am I not surprised Cinemaphile would hate something they themselves would do
threadly reminder they wasted bale on that shitheap
I wonder how he must've felt after watching Love and Thunder for the first time
>"alright, I guess I'm finally part of the Marvel machine, even though I didn't want to do another comic book film after Batman, just for my kids."
>they cut out all his best scenes and just left his villain with as little screen time as possible
>and then everything else in the movie is an embarrassing, childish mess, the worst possible example of an MCU film
I appreciate the honesty, you gotta do what you gotta do
>"I'm a rebel. I rebel."
Rogue One sucked fricking massive wiener
>Get btfo
>Wait a few hours
>Remember your reddit username isn't attached to your posts
>Spam replies suddenly hoping you'll get the last word and can go to bed instead of seething all night
Yep. Sounds like he lost alright
You're really desperate, aren't you?
I hope the MCUgays that defended Thor 4 continue getting movies of its caliber
I still remember when marveldrones were branding him a true fan before Ragnarok even came out.