>Just be yourself bro!
Really? This is the super deep ending everyone has been discussing for years? Frick this shit
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>Just be yourself bro!
>Just be yourself bro!
Really? This is the super deep ending everyone has been discussing for years? Frick this shit
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talking about the series btw
It's true though
You can't be happy with yourself if you're insecure about who you are
It's a good message
Why did Anno have to spell out it in the most pretentious way possible. Wouldn't it be more effective at showing this theme through him opening up to Asuka or hugging his father or some shit? Not some gay philosophy 101 monologue
>Huh, I'm...LE SHY and I am a product of how people see me and how I see myself. I guess I should just B myself!
the NGE tv series pretty famously ran completely out of budget by the end which is why it's so half baked. The real ending of the series is EoE.
The EoE ending is even worse because Shinji acts completely out of character and it's just all style and no substance typical of japanese media
>WOAAAH music plays while FRICKED UP SHIT happens. WOOOAH ISN'T SHINJI JUST SO FRICKED UP!? GET IT AUDIENCE? YOU'RE HIM AND YOU'RE. FRICKED. UP.
yeah I'm not crazy about it either, I just like it for the quality animation, asuka going batshit, and misato /ss/.
>Shinji acts completely out of character
Shinji in EoE is just a continuation from his character development throughout NGE.
The series' Shinji would have never jerk offd to a comatose body or choked his friend. He is a fundamentally different character in EoE
Why would he choke his friend?
Why would he coom toss on a comatose body and then go into a cooma, also known as coomatose?
Hint: Not because he just became violent or a coomer one day or even because the creator felt like it. There's probably a reason for him acting out of sorts.
Shinji is completely destroyed mentally by the end of the series. He's done terrible things and has watched everyone he was close to either die or abruptly pull themselves away from him, and in his complete desperation his need for affection and companionship manifests in a dark way. Rubbing one out to Asuka's comatose breasts is a dark reflection of the early scene where he tries to kiss her when shes sleeping, and choking her in his dream is Shinji's anger (which has been bottled up for the entire series) finally getting expressed.
Anno is a bitter and moronic hack who can't cope with the success of Eva because he knows deep inside it was the pieple around him that made that shit great in the first place. He alongside Miyazaki could run a nuclear plant out of the pure seethe they irradiate
That was not the point of the series. Shinji was a whiny b***h because he's a socially awkward nobody that has the fate of the world unto his shoulder all of a sudden. You can be comfortable with yourself all you want, but when even the slightest error could cause a mass extinction, i guarantee you'd be a nervous wreck too
congratulations
>be myself
>get thrown in jail
What now
You're where you belong
How are you typing in a jail cell? Haven't they confiscated your phone for calls only?
Who cares?
>just be yourself
>gotta slap chop your genitals to be yourself
tranime logic
Go watch End of Evangelion instead so Anno can take a shit in your mouth. Filtered.
you have to consider that the target audience was socially inept weeb trannies
Instrumentality is just a stand in for typical Japanese culture where you have to conform to society’s standards and expectations, where you can’t stand out or be different, where you must not break the harmony and be just like everyone else. Shinji was finally happy when he escaped instrumentality and by accepting and being himself.
No, we were talking about End of Evangelion, where everything goes to shit and nothing really matters
If that's your reaction, you weren't ready for that piece of advice yet.
only reason to watch NGE is the misato porn
which there is entirely too little of
it was ahead of its time
>Help me to stretch this shit I'm running out of budget
Riveting stuff.
No the ending says he could change himself to be whatever he wanted to be. Essentially the opposite of 'be yourself.' Try watching episodes 1-26 again.
It was something like you create your own reality.
> he could change himself to be whatever he wanted to be
Yes and he's the one who decides what he wants to be. That's still called being yourself.
I don't know why you are so easily impressed by trite social observations that every functioning human should know
He's not a functional human being. That's the whole point of the show you mongoloid.
yes and couldn't they show Shinji becoming a functioning human being in any other way than having some pretentious monologue explaining his though process exactly?
show don't tell, anon.
No I did watch the series as well as EoE and am puzzled how you morons can still discuss this shit decades later
>No I did watch the series as well as EoE and am puzzled how you morons can still discuss this shit decades later
That's how low is the bar in anime, unironically
I just post Rei's whenever NGE threads get posted
>No I did watch the series as well as EoE and am puzzled how you morons can still discuss this shit decades later
I've been watching anime on Cinemaphile for like 15 years and I can confidently say that the only anime that I would call genuinely good is the original gits movie.
anime seriously just sucks as a medium, prior to NGE anime was mostly children's cartoons. that's the biggest reason it gained so much notoriety.
What about the Devilman ovas. Or maybe i'm getting the dates mixed here.
>only anime that I would call genuinely good is the original gits movie.
if you are going to watch gits 1995 definitely do NOT watch the english version, the VA for kusanagi sucks ass.
And I would add to that, most of the discussion of NGE back in the day was speculation over the shit that is BARELY in the show itself, like the backstory of the original alien race and the implications of that for the setting etc. mostly looking for shit that wasn't even there.
aside from the asuka vs rei waifu arguments of course
>tranime
anime can be kino
>covid tourists hate an anime that was part of Cinemaphile culture for 2 decade straight
not even a surprsie
>trLM
No one ever said it was deep; the message is fairly clear from the beginning. People who call it deep are either morons or people like OP who never actually watched it and are just parroting opinions of the former group
Actually a lot of braindead anime "fans" say it's deep yet they failed to explain what's the message in these last 2 chapters. Also while i was not impressed by the NGE series as a whole, its characters really are one of a kind. I'm yet to find a whole complex cast like the NGE one. Also it's all Gendou's fault.
Black Lagoon
Being honest i prefered Jormungand over Black Lagoon for some reason.
lol are you for real?
black lagoon is cartoony as shit
Yeah I liked most of the characters too which is why the ending is so disappointing
I dunno the ending was kinda expected because f Gendou's plan fooled absolutely everyone and Shinji and co pulling a "power of friendship" card to stop the impact wouldve been out of tone. Taking about EoE of course since the TV ran out of budget and had to pull something fast out of their asses.
It was and always was the hedgehog dilemma
>wow that blue haired girl is an apathetic quiet shut in
>she's literally like me, I love her!
>OH NOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO LIKE HER, WHAT ABOUT HISTRIONIC b***h WHO WOULD LITERALLY NEVER FRICK YOU AND ONLY WANTS CHAD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>reigay reveals his persecution complex completely
Many such cases
>reducing a story to a mocking meme phrase makes me cleverer than the creators and the anons who enjoyed it
Can you homosexuals stop doing this, please?
What? Everyone on the internet does it. Good luck trying to shut it on Cinemaphile of all places.
OP here. I would unironically produce a better ending than Anno. I do admit though that the characters in the series are good and the first episode is exceptional. The way the music swells when Gendo appears and when Shinji finally decides to get in the robot are great but EoE, the series ending are all dogshit. Even Red Letter Media would manage to produce a better ending than Anno. At least they understand character motivation
No, its reality is hard but trying to disappear won't solve anything. It's possible to still find your happiness despite a complicated, challenging world.
i hate shinji so much it's unreal
Shinji is so literally me its unreal
luv me blueberry
The explicit message is not to just be yourself. At multiple points Shinji is criticised for refusing to actually engage with others, to get into a back and forth reshaping of each other with him because that makes you vulnerable, opens you up to rejection(like his father rejected him), and puts you in a position where if they reject you, they do it based on a greater understanding of you, making it more hurtful. Shinji's problem is he's constantly just being himself, either by not doing what other people want and pursuing his idea of comfort on his terms, or doing EXACTLY what other people want with no pushback because the gratitude and place in society that gets him is the path of least resistance to something that half feels like human connection without the emotional vulnerability. He either is himself by doing what he wants, or doing whatever you want regardless of what he wants. At no point is he engaging with you in a way that truly forces him to make decisions against his own inclination.
However, mainly working from End of Eva, he decidedly does not come to a conclusion that makes everything alright. In fact there isn't even some big epiphany that defines his choice to reject instrumentality I don't think(could be wrong, don't remember ever cut and little scene of the movie). He senses that humans are intrinsically supposed to connect with other humans, and understands the difficulties he has with that. In the end he merely gets a taste of something different, the absence of distance from other and the anxiety it brings in instrumentallity(not to mention how it doubles as a metaphor for death), considers it, and then just calmly detatches, knowing he's going back to the same struggles. Maybe he'll be a bit better after that experience, but he is not "fixed".
don't copy paste your blog here
This. This thread is for us moron chads who don't understand the series and just want to b***h about how the religious symbolism akshually doesn't mean anything at all.
The revelation in episodes 25 and 26 is a little different. Here the central question is, "is it okay for me to be here". His revelation is that yes, he has as much of a right to exist as anyone, it does not have to be validated by this or that. His place in lfie and among others is legitimate even if his every fear is true. Even if he is hateable, even if he is every negative thing he fears he is. It doesn't matter in the way he thinks. Nobody else has the right to say that makes him a less legitimate entity in the world.
This is a central enough point that it's also raised and pivotal in EoE. In the instrumentality montage, the moment that sets Shinji screaming is when a voice almost talks him round to thinking life is worthwhile, and he asks is it okay for him to be here. A title card shows the word silence(like not constantly getting that reassurance from other people), and he immediately starts screaming as Instrumentality carries on.
This may seem a slightly overblown point, but if you think about times you've doubted or despaired of yourself in real life, it's an incredibly key insight that gets at the root of so many psychological externalities. Shinji cannot stand genuine back and forth relationships with others, because you can never know 100 percent what the person you care for is thinking, no matter if things are going fine. You can't be sure, which is unbearable if you everything depends on them accepting you.
"It's okay for me to be here" is not a cure for any feelings of inadequecy, but it's a remedy for the paralysis it inflicts on Shinji. It's enough of an edge for him to learn to cope with the uncertainty of human relationships, because even if others might be thinking something he wouldn't like, it's something he can deal with. They don't have more of a right to be here than him.
A child soldier has just been given permission to forget intensive training and indoctrination and you think he doesn't deserve a moment of joy before the world gets destroyed.
No. The lesson is:
>You mustn't run away
luv rei
luv misato
ate asuka
simple as