Just finished watching Godzilla 1954 and it was... pretty boring? I was promised a really good movie, but this was average at best. Do people just rate it so high because they think it must have been good for 1954 standards?
I hope the other Godzilla movies are better than this.
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It's gojira bro! it must be good since its from japeen and from the 50's!
also it must be good since it's an iconic pop culture monster!
It's not boring at all, watched it for the first time last year and it's great.
Sounds like you're hung up on it being "old" or something, you should work on that.
>giant monster kino is "average at best"
If you didn't like it you have shit taste and shouldn't bother with the rest of the series. The original movie is the best
>Do people just rate it so high because they think it must have been good for 1954 standards?
pleb alert
It blew my mind that they definitively frickin killed Godzilla in the first movie. Never knew that
At the end Yamane's talking about the possibility nuclear experimentation could lead to more Godzillas. It wasn't teasing a sequel even though that's ultimately what happened, it was hammering in the morals.
most iconic movie monsters are definitively taken out
Name one other iconic monster that gets absolutely disintegrated on screen.
Dracula, tens of times.
Godzilla death was worst FX of movie. Turns into fake ass skeleton. Kong getting his ass shot off Empire State Building is a worst death
I’d argue Gojira death was weakest most anticlimactic ending to classic monster movie. Him falling into volcano in 1984 is better. Saddest will always be Godzilla vs Destoroyah
Wolfman, Invisible Man, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Frankenstein's Monster, King Kong, Dracula,
How many pre-1960 movies have you even seen anon?
One. Godzilla 1954
Dunno, can't see how this is any better than Iron Man 2 for example, which people claim is bad but I really liked. It's much more entertaining than Godzilla.
>Dunno, can't see how this is any better than Iron Man 2 for example
This is bait.
>One. Godzilla 1954
>can't see how this is any better than Iron Man 2 for example, which people claim is bad but I really liked
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Watch some fricking movies bro, like check out The Ten Commandments or something, I don't know
If you first saw King Kong 1933 as a kid like I did and then Gojira, it was a massive downgrade. Going down to this day amazing stop motion to a Jap in a rubber suit smashing toy models. Still like the movie.
1954 Godzilla has amazing composite shots that make it look like faded newsreel footage. Far more effective and haunting. Black and white works wonders. Careful modeling and suitmation is a wonderful craft that allowed for much better interaction with environment and destruction scene than stop motion.
Nice cope. Models aren’t even close to beautiful models used in King Kong. So much going on
Models, miniatures. Stop mottion puppets interact mostly with each other because it's too difficult to interact with the environment. It's just a different art form.
>Stop mottion puppets interact mostly with each other because it's too difficult to interact with the environment.
What environment? Stop motion interacts with the same fake environment as a guy in a rubber suit does. Kong is first movie use screens to project live actors into fake environment. You hardly ever see this in a Godzilla movie. Love actors constantly being put into models with Godzilla. Usually Godzilla trashing a model cut to live actors cut back to Godzilla
The environment of the suroundings, of the city. In The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms there've very little of it. Rhedosaurus steps on a couple cars and once smashes a brick wall. Gorgo from the same director features one of the most impressive destruction scenes of the time made possibly only because the movie used suits and miniatures. It just has its own strenghts and limitations like stop motion. And in the original it looks simply haunting. Excellent composite shots too.
It's impossible to say it's not a beautiful looking movie although the craft improved in later movies so the sets became bigger and more elaborate. But the first movie didn't need it.
Has nothing to do with limitation unless your counting time and money. Which is why Toho didn’t use stop motion. Stop motion model trashing a city would take months and money versus just putting a guy in a suit and destroying a model. Kong vs T. rex took 5-6 months to animate
It would take Toho like 7 years. Time is what they didn't have. Their technique was extremely difficult as well and sometimes very dangerous. Near fatal at times especially for the suit actors but not just them if one remembers horror stories from the set of The Mysterians and the near boiling temperatures on set. Not to mention all the electricity for the miniature lamps and buildings and fire.
It really was about time. When Nakajima's double, Tezuka fell and crashed into the Diet building they couldn't rebuild it so they filmed the rest of the scenes in close ups and you don't even notice it wasn't supposed to be like that.
Toho always been budget aka B movies. In the long run, it’s benefitted them. Allowed the to put out a Godzilla movie every couple of years. It also helped that Japs weren’t picky. The same can’t be said for US audiences. No way people go see a Kong movie with a guy in an ape suit. 70s remake producers straight up
lied and said Kong be 40 foot robot. When robot was only used in a couple of scenes. Why every American Godzilla
movie is CGI. Best thing that could’ve happened to Kong was Radio Picture giving rights to Toho. Toho had labs make a lot Kong movies after KvG. Japs audiences would have zero problems seeing a guy in a awful monkey suit
Just look Kong smashing train scene from 1933 and tell me stop motion doesn’t interact with environment..
King Kong 33 is really underrated today, they should make every kid under 6 watch it. I can't imagine being raised on Shrek and Avengers instead of classic Disney and Jaws, it seems so unnatural. Like kids should absolutely be watching Three Stooges and Looney Tunes instead of Blippy or whatever
You have to live through your city being firebombed into rubble and 2 citys less than a state away being nuked to understand this movie. Otherwise you're just a moronic american going "why don't they just nuke Godzilla twice when the first time didnt work?"
I f the l the same about Jaws and there are people who say it’s their favorite film.
Did you actually watch the original one or did you watch the stupid American one with Raymond Burr?
I did watch the original. My mind was always drifting away.
Tech has gimped your attention span anon. You need to do a dopamine fast.
If anon said this about Stalker or something I could understand. He'd be wrong, but I'd understand. Not being able to stay focused during fricking Godzilla just means he has a brain disorder, though. Fricking GODZILLA.
That reminds me, I've been meaning to watch Stalker.
Holy moly, it's 2 hours and 41 minutes long?
Being the type of guy who says holy moly makes me think you'll like it
(Fellow holymolychad here)
Hm, maybe you'd like the American one more.
'54 is the far better film, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the American edit
Godzilla 1985 is objectively superior to the japanese version though, unless you're allergic to Dr. Pepper
>I hope the other Godzilla movies are better than this.
they're not, the movies clearly aren't for you. move on to something else
They might be, Godzilla is one of those franchises like Rocky, Rambo, Mad Max, etc. where the first film is deep and thoughtful and then the rest of the series devolves into mindless action for the mass market. He might be one of those people who hates the first one but enjoys the rest.
Godzilla keeps going back and forth all the time. Deep themes to fun ction to something in between. It's the most versatile movie franchise ever and you'd never know it from the premise alone because it's not even centred around human characters.
Godzilla is not-so-subtle propaganda trying to paints Japs as the victims for being on the receiving end of nuclear devastation. That's the problem I have with these bastards: they rape and murder millions of people while trying to expand their empire, launch a sneak attack against innocent American boys in Pearl Harbor, and then have the audacity to cry that they were the testing grounds for nuclear weapons. Trying to push an anti-nuclear message in Godzilla while refusing to acknowledge the decisions that got them there is just dishonest beyond belief.
That has nothing to do with Godzilla and especially people who made it.
>the goverment has the army do bad things, therefore the populace must pay the price
I hate you homosexuals. It's like when people b***h Americans are starting wars. No "we" aren't.
you dont even know what WW2 was about and you don't understand what led up to pearl harbor
They couldn't get over the humiliation of BPC (Big Perry wiener) forcing them to open up to the rest of the world to face how backwards and pathetic they were compared to US and Europe. They have been living with the inferiority complex ever since.
America rightfully cut Japan's oil supply off to hurt their genocidal campaign in Asia, and the Japs got butthurt and retaliated. Simple as that.
if you liked the 1950's Godzilla OST you should check out the original Japanese DBZ score. they're damn near identical.
>Just finished watching Godzilla 1954 and it was... pretty boring?
Stopped reading right there, have a nice day zoomie
If your brain is too comped by ticktok and seed oils just watch these instead of the movies and then you can pretend to be a Godzilla fan like all the cool kids.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1i2TnUDF6FBfKWSkLQeR7Ur6jsCE3jPb
I like these videos but that guy is a Black person homosexual with monkey pox, aids and a prolapsed anus for ranking vs. Gigan LAST in his Showa rankings....
>Godzilla Minus One brought in many new entrants to the Godzilla series
>includes people with no taste.
Well, it can not be helped.
>Nu-fans cannot understand this genius
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Apparently not.
I guess it has been seven years, but are there really that many people who didn't watch Shin Godzilla, and decided Minus One would be their entrance into the series? It's not like Godzilla has been dormant for a long time or something, I can't imagine Minus One being the very first Godzilla movie of anyone but a very young child.
Probably, Shin was still niche in the west but Minus One is popular and having a regular theatrical run.
Minus One is way better so I'm glad it'll be some people's introduction.
Jap Goji has been a niche thing for a good while now (stopped being mainstream in the West in like the 70s.). Folks are checking out M1 because of word of mouth and all things considered you could do a lot worse for a first godzilla movie. Will generate lots of new fans which is always a good thing. Took my ex to see 2014 and it didn't inspire her to look any further into the series, where I think M1 would have.
Minus One is the only good Godzilla movie
All the other ones are good or bad within the Kaiju genre, but the Kaiju genre is shit. Minus One is one of the only ones to transcend the genre.
Lmfao, everyone laugh at this pleb, HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Name the “good” ones
The original is better than Minus One.
what do you all think about godzilla 2014 though?
Mediocre
okay, i can accept that, as i have only seen 2014, shin, and now minus one
i shall make an attempt to watch this OG 1954 one soon though
While I think 2014 is inferior to the Japanese films, I did respect it for not having the "Transformers problem." As you may know, a big complaint about the Michael Bay Transformers is that people watched the movie to see the robots and what they got was a bunch of humans doing boring human shit. Godzilla 2014 is the opposite of that, the humans are just in the background and the story stays focused on Godzilla. People complained that the military guy was underdeveloped, but I said "THANK YOU for keeping the focus on Godzilla and not shoving this boring military guy in my face the whole movie."
> Godzilla 2014 is the opposite of that, the humans are just in the background and the story stays focused on Godzilla.
What the frick are you talking about! Godzilla is in the movie for 12 minutes out of a two hour movie!
Even when Godzilla is not on screen, the movie is about him. In Transformers it's about some guy trying to get laid or something.
>Even when Godzilla is not on screen, the movie is about him.
Ah, I see. Do you recognize all monsters, including MUTO, as "Godzilla"?
Are Godzilla's enemies not pertinent to Godzilla's story in your eyes?
12 minutes of screen time!
People told me to watch 2014 so I downloaded it and skimmed it last night before bed and Godzilla is barely in it. Felt like less than Minus One
Yeah even when Godzilla is "on screen" in 2014 he's still heavily obscured, it feels like the director was more interested in making a Cloverfield ripoff than a Godzilla movie.
It gave the film tension and gravitas.
Hard to feel any tension when the movie is so uninteresting.
The story was more focused on giant fleas and the soldier's family than Godzilla. The Big G was basically a cameo in the movie.
>That part where the OG theme drops in Ginza in Minus One
>Normies will never realize that this is the man who makes Gojira 1954 such a special movie.
Why would you need to wear both an eyepatch and sunglasses? The sunglasses already cover the eye.
Because it's cool
because he has another eye that isn't covered by the eyepatch
I've never seen this one, but there are a ton of great Japanese movies. I've mentioned it before, but I'd recommend Branded to Kill. It's my favorite movie of all time, definitely not a dull moment.
>The initial critical and commercial failure of Branded to Kill prompted Nikkatsu to ostensibly fire Suzuki for making "movies that make no sense and no money". In response, Suzuki successfully sued Nikkatsu, and garnered support from student groups, like-minded filmmakers and the general public, causing a major controversy throughout the Japanese film industry. Suzuki was blacklisted and did not make another feature film for a decade, but became a countercultural icon.
There are also anime films that are real works of art, this is an anime site after all. Perfect Blue, Ghost in the Shell, the Ghibli movies. I'm going to watch Minus One because of all the praise for it on this board, Shin Godzilla was on point. Some very thoughtful takes on this board.
Good kino was often my escape from the constant murder and violence in the ghetto. It was a distraction from my personal struggles in life. I'd go to great lengths to search out the best kinos in the world, even the European arthouse stuff. Lots of foreign movies with subtitles.
Life has improved since then, but I still love to sit down with a meal and a brand new movie I've never seen before not knowing what to expect. Old kinos, new kinos, as long as it was a good movie.
I think good writing, acting, and cinematography is what makes for a good movie, no matter who stars in it.
>this is an anime site after all.
The frick? No it's not.
It was founded as a website to talk about Japanese media in the English language
Weirdest thing about the original Godzilla, and Raids Again for that matter, is that instead of a heat ray he originally had superhot steam breath.
It was just the effects quality of the time.
In the original Godzilla is just some dinosaur that fricks shit up because his natural habitat in the sea was disturbed by H-bomb tests, right? That was the weirdest thing to me, I always thought he was a mutant creature from the start.
His skin design is conscious from radiation burns, so logically he's already a mutant since 1954.
I love Kaiju fights but why is it that solo Goji movies are always the best? it's rarely talked about but 1984 is my favorite in the entire series
1984 saved Godzilla series. Love the fangs
The worst part of 2014 was that the main plot was stolen by MUTOs.
Even though it's Legendary's Godzilla debut, he's essentially just a guest.
Yeah the Mutos were alright villains but using them so much at the expense of actually having Godzilla in the film wasn't worth it.
I can understand why people want to defend 2014.
Years after the 1998 disaster, this is the first American-made Godzilla that can finally be called a success.
That's how I felt but with King of the Monsters. Not perfect but it felt like America finally did a decent Goji movie.
Wasn't big on 98 or 2014.
Undeniably, it was a box office success. The sequels, not so much. That is a problem with American blockbusters, that they plan out a franchise four movies in advance and if the movies start bombing then they're screwed because they're already so far along in production. My hope is that with the continued failure of this tactic, they'll stop attempting it, and we'll go back tot he days of sequels being more cautiously planned. If they happen at all. Also, Gareth Edwards is British.
>Gareth Edwards is British
And?
And frick you.
Just finished listening to Godzilla. Fill 'em with the venom and eliminate 'em other words I Minute Maid 'em I don't wanna hurt 'em but I did I'm in a fit of rage I'm murderin' again nobody will evade I'm finna kill 'em I'm dumpin' their frickin' bodies in the lake obliteratin' everything incinerate a renegade I'm here to make anybody who want it with the pen afraid but don't nobody want it but they're gonna get it anyway 'cause I'm beginnin' to feel like I'm mentally ill I'm Atilla kill or be killed I'm a killer bee the vanilla gorilla you're bringin' the killer within me out of me you don't want to be the enemy of the demon who went in me and be on the receiving end of me what stupidity it'd be every bit of me is the epitome of a spitter when I'm in the vicinity motherfricker you better duck or you finna be dead the minute you run into me a hundred percent of you is a fifth of a percent of me I'm 'bout to frickin' finish you b***h I'm unfadable you wanna battle I'm available I'm blowin' up like an inflatable I'm undebatable I'm unavoidable I'm unevadable I'm on the toilet bowl I got a trailer full of money and I'm paid in full I'm not afraid to pull a