Because for a lot of people here discord is just an extension of Cinemaphile and vice versa. It's like anons calling someone reddit when you know that's what they browse themselves.
It does a really good job of expanding a joke side character. It's a prequel, but also stands on its own. Very good that they also gave us a final conclusion to Saul's story instead of just ending right when Breaking Bad starts or some shit
>Very good that they also gave us a final conclusion to Saul's story instead of just ending right when Breaking Bad starts or some shit
Its superior to BB imo, Saul is a significantly better protagonist than I AM LE DANGER angry, resentful redditman & his arc of corruption & redemption is more emotionally fulfilling than Heisenbergers pathetic failed attempt at larping as a narco kingpin
>Walter White was the side character all along
He legitimately was, & a terrible one at that. Its funny af reading soibois who interpret him as a "Nietzschean anti-hero", when the show very clearly demonstrates that he's a delusional b***hboi who obvs WISHES he was some badass amoral ubermensh, but who in reality can never stop being motivated by his own inner weakness & insecurity & resentment for others lol. Walt is to plebbit as Saul is to Cinemaphile
>Nietzschean anti-hero >badass amoral ubermensh
Pretty apt description of Walter. He did do it for him after all, because he liked it. Saul does what he does because daddy and brother issues. Also Walter actor can actually act unlike Saul actor.
>Pretty apt description of Walter
no it fricking isnt. he's an eternal bungler, like he may "like" larping as scarface but he is objectively not fricking good at it, at all
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>kills all the reddit Saul characters >earns millions for family >does so because fun things are fun
Pure based. Meanwhile Saul is owning up to his crimes in his cuck shed all for hag pussy
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millions for family >loses it all like a moron >dies like a b***h leaving behind a legacy of poison that everyone who knew him curses & despises
he doesnt do any of it bc its "fun", he does it bc he's a bitter, weak little man who wants to feel big & strong.
saul does not turn himself in for hag pussy, he does it to prove to himself that he can be stronger than his worst impulses & rise above his own inherently sleazy, amoral nature
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millions for family >loses it all like a moron >dies like a b***h leaving behind a legacy of poison that everyone who knew him curses & despises
he doesnt do any of it bc its "fun", he does it bc he's a bitter, weak little man who wants to feel big & strong.
saul does not turn himself in for hag pussy, he does it to prove to himself that he can be stronger than his worst impulses & rise above his own inherently sleazy, amoral nature
tbh Kim has a really nice hag pussy
8 months ago
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yup
8 months ago
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Walt dies hated by pretty much all
8 months ago
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That's just poorly written. In reality people would praise him for putting up with ugly face for as long as he did before going crazy.
8 months ago
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8 months ago
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Tony Montana wasn't good at anything either, he was mostly lucky his downfal was probably just as fast if not faster than Walts
I for yon hated how anxious the Gene scenes made me feel and was relieved when he got caught but then annoyed by everything after that. I felt very dissatisfied and almost wish Felina was the last thing made in the Breaking Bad series.
You thought it was a boring waste of its premise sold by the promise that the audience would get comfy sleazy lawyer kino and not a boring attempt to make a serious lawyer drama in a capeshit universe. You also thought all the cartel shit was boring because Gilligan was desperately trying to make the new great crime neo noir portraying Mexicans akin to the cosa nostra and italians despite the fact the cartel and Mexicans in no way shape or form are anything close to what the cosa nostra was, not to mention all the cartel shit was shit because we already knew exactly how their stories ended so it was laughably moronic to try to create tension in Gus or Mike scenes. You also thought the ending was total bullshit because Jimmy would never back pedal so hard just to stop Kim from being sued, it was a betrayal of his entire character and story arc all to set up the simplistic and tired plebeian moral ending that D'awwwww le man le sacrificed everything xe had to twue wuv.
You thought it was a show of the occasional good moment surrounded by hours of garbage and that Gilligan is a genuine hack who can't make up his mind whether he wants to make a serious down to earth show or a capeshit crime drama with spoopy assassin's and quirky cartel members with Jedi power and super villain crime bosses.
if he were to just moderate his vices a la Artistotle (implying success in business is a vice) he would have taken the deal he fought for in court, made a law practice with a more respectable image and stopped indulging in the Saul lifestyle.
Instead, he nukes his whole life, just totally destroys it beyond repair, because that's what Jesus would do and that's what his christian cultural guilt complex demands. Martyrdom for a moronic cause is just suicide.
Nietzsche was a schizo who cried and hugged a random horse he felt bad for, and he didn't imply "slave morality" was somehow inferior to other modes of morality
Nietzsche was a b***h in a lot of ways and a real Nietzschean would move beyond him towards the overman instead of worshiping his every word. I'm not even a huge fan and think most of his writings are shit.
Nietzsche was a schizo who cried and hugged a random horse he felt bad for, and he didn't imply "slave morality" was somehow inferior to other modes of morality
>the cartel and Mexicans in no way shape or form are anything close to what the cosa nostra was
The cartel is far more dangerous, bro. Cosa nostra had codes, it had some semblance of honor. The cartel is unhinged and far more populous, they already control the Mexican govt and are now dealing directly with the US state.
Yes that's what I was implying. Gilligan wants to paint the cartel as honorable family men driven by code and forced into a life of crime to make ends meet. In the show they constantly talk about "the game" and whether people are in it or not, and lament civilian deaths and are kind to their family. Nacho is a level headed professional that only wants to help his papi make money and only resorts to violence when totally necessary. Gilligan's cartel mostly regret killing and are unhinged only if they're on drugs. In essence, what the Italian mob was. Even Lalo is mostly sane and only kills to cover his tracks.
In reality the cartel are unhinged meth head morons corralled and lead by sociopathic ex-military mercenaries working for deep state intelligence agencies. They don't give a frick about family or honor, they want money and to be treated like rockstars and to indulge their mutt Azteca generic need to brutalize others. Sure, the Italians did some horrific things and weren't saints, but at no point was the Italian mob going out and beheading teachers and nurses just to inspire fear or flaying a policeman's son alive in front of his father's eyes before doing the same to him because the police man wouldn't take a bribe, etc. Gilligan tried desperately to equate what the casa nostra was with the cartel is but it fails because what the cartel is in reality doesn't align with what he wants crime and criminals to be in his neo noir capeshit show. Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are inherently dishonest, which would be fine if Gilligan also wasn't up his own ass about trying to make it the great modern crime story.
>Gilligan wants to paint the cartel as honorable family men driven by code and forced into a life of crime to make ends meet.
Thats not at all what pretty much anyone in the cartel in this or Breaking Bad are depicted as, did you make up some other show in your head? Even Nacho who is probably the most sympathetic of the cartel guys isn't depicted as haven gotten in to it to provide for his dad, his dad was doing fine.
Literally everyone but the Salamancas and Don Eladio are portrayed as being in the cartel to make money for their family and loved ones. Rewatch the show.
Did you just happen to miss the scenes where people like don hector shot innocent bystanders in the face
You need to rewatch the show too. Hector only shoots: >gus's boyfriend on Eladio's orders as punishment for disrespecting Eladio.
>the man who found the truck Mike hijacked because they couldn't have that man go to the police.
That's it. Both rational killings (one of which wasn't necessarily his choice) to protect the business. When Mike gets Tuco arrested and threatens Hector in front of his men demanding a significant amount of bribe money Hector willingly gives it up and never goes after Mike ever again despite being disrespected and forced to pay cash to an unconnected man who knows that Hector is a criminal of some kind. Obviously plot armor is at play there but does that sound like the behaviour of a cartel member? Gilligan wrote Hector to act like a slightly angrier mafia Capo, not a cartel boss. And what do you think he means Hector tells the twins "family is everything". You don't think that is representative of his character motivation and why he's in a life of crime in the first place? Especially when he tells the cartel to go frick themselves repeatedly?
>Literally everyone but the Salamancas and Don Eladio are portrayed as being in the cartel to make money for their family and loved ones.
No they aren't, Gus, and everyone he employs aren't doing it for "family" or whatever. Only Mike could possibly be seen as someone doing it for selfless reasons, and even there its pretty clear that he's way more like Walt in the end. He could have stayed out of cartel shit and just done random protection jobs if he was smart.
>. You also thought the ending was total bullshit because Jimmy would never back pedal so hard just to stop Kim from being sued, it was a betrayal of his entire character and story arc all to set up the simplistic and tired plebeian moral ending that D'awwwww le man le sacrificed everything xe had to twue wuv.
that was what I thought too.
>You thought it was a show of the occasional good moment surrounded by hours of garbage and that Gilligan is a genuine hack who can't make up his mind whether he wants to make a serious down to earth show or a capeshit crime drama with spoopy assassin's and quirky cartel members with Jedi power and super villain crime bosses.
as much as I like the show, youre not wrong. the early comedic scams were funny and the sleazy lawyer bits from the first season were great, but turning it into a sad drama in regards to his relationship with his brother was overdrawn and played out by the end of that story arc. it went on for seasons just going NOWHERE. there was a lack of urgency in tense moments where mike or jimmy was in a life threatening situation, but thats why nacho, kim, and company were very welcomed. the show had potential but it never kept its focus straight enough to fulfill its promises.
I mean its not like Walt died very satisfied after he left the normie life, and Kim is now stuck with yep guy until the end of her days
I guess it could have been worse but it doesn't feel very fulfilling to be in their shoes
Frick Kim up the ass with a bottle of Zafiro Añejo, cap on. Frick I hated that irritating b***h...I knew the ending would be shit the moment Lalo killed Howard instead of her.
>walking along with a somber expression >stops in the middle of a hallway >stares into space >I'M ACTING >turns around, re-enters the building and follows through on some moronic, impulsive action or other
Felt like this happened every other episode. It was as dependable as Mike fricking around with some tools for twenty minutes.
8 months ago
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So not irritating or annoying
8 months ago
Anonymous
Bad acting is always annoying. I'm glad she's so walled out her career is nearly over.
8 months ago
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It wasnt bad tho
8 months ago
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Probably not, she has another series with Gilligan coming out, he seems to really like her and he has said that if he ever does another show in the BrBa franchise it would be with Kim as the mc
You liked the first 3 seasons with Chuck but then it became a shitty Breaking Bad lite with absolute clown characters like Lalo and the ending was complete subversive garbage and you wonder why you wasted all of that time to be punked by Bince again.
Mexican cartels just aren't as kino as the Italian mafia of the 1900s. Germans aren't as cool as Germans in the 1900s. Rhea Seehorn isn't as cute as in the 1900s. It all falls apart.
I don’t understand why gays start a thread like this on any board, just go to your discord group and post about it
you probably tought nippy was the best episode and that the show had a HARD fall immediatly afterwards
Cinemaphile ~~*"users"*~~ when discussion about a topic is had on the board designated for it
Five-O was the best episode.
Slow down! You’re gonna make yourself sick.
At least it’s a thread that’s on topic for Cinemaphile and not a twitter screencap or eceleb gossip. homosexual
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homosexuals
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Because for a lot of people here discord is just an extension of Cinemaphile and vice versa. It's like anons calling someone reddit when you know that's what they browse themselves.
It does a really good job of expanding a joke side character. It's a prequel, but also stands on its own. Very good that they also gave us a final conclusion to Saul's story instead of just ending right when Breaking Bad starts or some shit
>Very good that they also gave us a final conclusion to Saul's story instead of just ending right when Breaking Bad starts or some shit
Its superior to BB imo, Saul is a significantly better protagonist than I AM LE DANGER angry, resentful redditman & his arc of corruption & redemption is more emotionally fulfilling than Heisenbergers pathetic failed attempt at larping as a narco kingpin
>I AM LE DANGER angry, resentful redditman
Walter White was the side character all along
>Walter White was the side character all along
He legitimately was, & a terrible one at that. Its funny af reading soibois who interpret him as a "Nietzschean anti-hero", when the show very clearly demonstrates that he's a delusional b***hboi who obvs WISHES he was some badass amoral ubermensh, but who in reality can never stop being motivated by his own inner weakness & insecurity & resentment for others lol. Walt is to plebbit as Saul is to Cinemaphile
>Nietzschean anti-hero
>badass amoral ubermensh
Pretty apt description of Walter. He did do it for him after all, because he liked it. Saul does what he does because daddy and brother issues. Also Walter actor can actually act unlike Saul actor.
>Pretty apt description of Walter
no it fricking isnt. he's an eternal bungler, like he may "like" larping as scarface but he is objectively not fricking good at it, at all
>kills all the reddit Saul characters
>earns millions for family
>does so because fun things are fun
Pure based. Meanwhile Saul is owning up to his crimes in his cuck shed all for hag pussy
millions for family
>loses it all like a moron
>dies like a b***h leaving behind a legacy of poison that everyone who knew him curses & despises
he doesnt do any of it bc its "fun", he does it bc he's a bitter, weak little man who wants to feel big & strong.
saul does not turn himself in for hag pussy, he does it to prove to himself that he can be stronger than his worst impulses & rise above his own inherently sleazy, amoral nature
tbh Kim has a really nice hag pussy
yup
Walt dies hated by pretty much all
That's just poorly written. In reality people would praise him for putting up with ugly face for as long as he did before going crazy.
Tony Montana wasn't good at anything either, he was mostly lucky his downfal was probably just as fast if not faster than Walts
I for yon hated how anxious the Gene scenes made me feel and was relieved when he got caught but then annoyed by everything after that. I felt very dissatisfied and almost wish Felina was the last thing made in the Breaking Bad series.
>was relieved when he got caught
Yeah so was he in the end, living like Gene seems like utter hell
a crap show but i guess better than anything they release today if that matters much
Cinemaphile will never admit it but they loved this show. I've seen the threads.
Denial is a sad thing
Cinemaphile pretends it hates everything, nothing is ever good enough for some of these miserable fricks
good run with a stumbling finish
Overall, a 5/10. Frankly, if I was Vince or Peter, I would be ashamed.
>if I was Vince or Peter, I would be ashamed
BCS is better than BrBa, so even if it is a 5/10 they shouldn't be ashamed, they improved.
You thought it was a boring waste of its premise sold by the promise that the audience would get comfy sleazy lawyer kino and not a boring attempt to make a serious lawyer drama in a capeshit universe. You also thought all the cartel shit was boring because Gilligan was desperately trying to make the new great crime neo noir portraying Mexicans akin to the cosa nostra and italians despite the fact the cartel and Mexicans in no way shape or form are anything close to what the cosa nostra was, not to mention all the cartel shit was shit because we already knew exactly how their stories ended so it was laughably moronic to try to create tension in Gus or Mike scenes. You also thought the ending was total bullshit because Jimmy would never back pedal so hard just to stop Kim from being sued, it was a betrayal of his entire character and story arc all to set up the simplistic and tired plebeian moral ending that D'awwwww le man le sacrificed everything xe had to twue wuv.
You thought it was a show of the occasional good moment surrounded by hours of garbage and that Gilligan is a genuine hack who can't make up his mind whether he wants to make a serious down to earth show or a capeshit crime drama with spoopy assassin's and quirky cartel members with Jedi power and super villain crime bosses.
>tired plebeian moral ending that D'awwwww le man le sacrificed everything xe had to twue wuv.
He did it for himself. Kim's just an excuse
>deny yourself for yourself
makes no sense. He cucked to christian slave morality of self sacrifice to please others
>>deny yourself for yourself
He embraced virtue instead of surrendering to vice, it doesnt have anything to do w christcuck morality
Nah he surrendered to the judeo Christian justice system
if he were to just moderate his vices a la Artistotle (implying success in business is a vice) he would have taken the deal he fought for in court, made a law practice with a more respectable image and stopped indulging in the Saul lifestyle.
Instead, he nukes his whole life, just totally destroys it beyond repair, because that's what Jesus would do and that's what his christian cultural guilt complex demands. Martyrdom for a moronic cause is just suicide.
Nietzsche was a b***h in a lot of ways and a real Nietzschean would move beyond him towards the overman instead of worshiping his every word. I'm not even a huge fan and think most of his writings are shit.
>implying success in business is a vice
It is in Saul's case since all he does is scams and helping shitty people
Übermenschlichkeit isn't attainable, and everyone has their own idea of what it would mean for them
>isn't attainable
so we should just wallow in the mud instead? Is any goal of any ideology really attainable?
No, people should strive to always be better, but aiming for a complete ideal is doomed to fail
Nietzsche was a schizo who cried and hugged a random horse he felt bad for, and he didn't imply "slave morality" was somehow inferior to other modes of morality
>the cartel and Mexicans in no way shape or form are anything close to what the cosa nostra was
The cartel is far more dangerous, bro. Cosa nostra had codes, it had some semblance of honor. The cartel is unhinged and far more populous, they already control the Mexican govt and are now dealing directly with the US state.
Yes that's what I was implying. Gilligan wants to paint the cartel as honorable family men driven by code and forced into a life of crime to make ends meet. In the show they constantly talk about "the game" and whether people are in it or not, and lament civilian deaths and are kind to their family. Nacho is a level headed professional that only wants to help his papi make money and only resorts to violence when totally necessary. Gilligan's cartel mostly regret killing and are unhinged only if they're on drugs. In essence, what the Italian mob was. Even Lalo is mostly sane and only kills to cover his tracks.
In reality the cartel are unhinged meth head morons corralled and lead by sociopathic ex-military mercenaries working for deep state intelligence agencies. They don't give a frick about family or honor, they want money and to be treated like rockstars and to indulge their mutt Azteca generic need to brutalize others. Sure, the Italians did some horrific things and weren't saints, but at no point was the Italian mob going out and beheading teachers and nurses just to inspire fear or flaying a policeman's son alive in front of his father's eyes before doing the same to him because the police man wouldn't take a bribe, etc. Gilligan tried desperately to equate what the casa nostra was with the cartel is but it fails because what the cartel is in reality doesn't align with what he wants crime and criminals to be in his neo noir capeshit show. Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul are inherently dishonest, which would be fine if Gilligan also wasn't up his own ass about trying to make it the great modern crime story.
Did you just happen to miss the scenes where people like don hector shot innocent bystanders in the face
>Gilligan wants to paint the cartel as honorable family men driven by code and forced into a life of crime to make ends meet.
Thats not at all what pretty much anyone in the cartel in this or Breaking Bad are depicted as, did you make up some other show in your head? Even Nacho who is probably the most sympathetic of the cartel guys isn't depicted as haven gotten in to it to provide for his dad, his dad was doing fine.
Literally everyone but the Salamancas and Don Eladio are portrayed as being in the cartel to make money for their family and loved ones. Rewatch the show.
You need to rewatch the show too. Hector only shoots:
>gus's boyfriend on Eladio's orders as punishment for disrespecting Eladio.
>the man who found the truck Mike hijacked because they couldn't have that man go to the police.
That's it. Both rational killings (one of which wasn't necessarily his choice) to protect the business. When Mike gets Tuco arrested and threatens Hector in front of his men demanding a significant amount of bribe money Hector willingly gives it up and never goes after Mike ever again despite being disrespected and forced to pay cash to an unconnected man who knows that Hector is a criminal of some kind. Obviously plot armor is at play there but does that sound like the behaviour of a cartel member? Gilligan wrote Hector to act like a slightly angrier mafia Capo, not a cartel boss. And what do you think he means Hector tells the twins "family is everything". You don't think that is representative of his character motivation and why he's in a life of crime in the first place? Especially when he tells the cartel to go frick themselves repeatedly?
>Literally everyone but the Salamancas and Don Eladio are portrayed as being in the cartel to make money for their family and loved ones.
No they aren't, Gus, and everyone he employs aren't doing it for "family" or whatever. Only Mike could possibly be seen as someone doing it for selfless reasons, and even there its pretty clear that he's way more like Walt in the end. He could have stayed out of cartel shit and just done random protection jobs if he was smart.
Lalo and Hector kill the hotel keeper and his family for disrespecting them.
>. You also thought the ending was total bullshit because Jimmy would never back pedal so hard just to stop Kim from being sued, it was a betrayal of his entire character and story arc all to set up the simplistic and tired plebeian moral ending that D'awwwww le man le sacrificed everything xe had to twue wuv.
that was what I thought too.
>You thought it was a show of the occasional good moment surrounded by hours of garbage and that Gilligan is a genuine hack who can't make up his mind whether he wants to make a serious down to earth show or a capeshit crime drama with spoopy assassin's and quirky cartel members with Jedi power and super villain crime bosses.
as much as I like the show, youre not wrong. the early comedic scams were funny and the sleazy lawyer bits from the first season were great, but turning it into a sad drama in regards to his relationship with his brother was overdrawn and played out by the end of that story arc. it went on for seasons just going NOWHERE. there was a lack of urgency in tense moments where mike or jimmy was in a life threatening situation, but thats why nacho, kim, and company were very welcomed. the show had potential but it never kept its focus straight enough to fulfill its promises.
Better cuck chuck
Jimmy kinda accidentally did during the dinner with Rebecca
You miss her already
I miss all of them
"What a shit, trite ending."
Annoying c**t with a simp army in the tens of thousands.
Biggest mistake Kim did was ever caring about Jimmy. Her life would have been fine without him.
that's like saying woult wouldve been fine if he didn't get cancer
theyd both be unfulfilled and die dissatisfied... normie life wasn't for them
I mean its not like Walt died very satisfied after he left the normie life, and Kim is now stuck with yep guy until the end of her days
I guess it could have been worse but it doesn't feel very fulfilling to be in their shoes
Frick Kim up the ass with a bottle of Zafiro Añejo, cap on. Frick I hated that irritating b***h...I knew the ending would be shit the moment Lalo killed Howard instead of her.
She did nothing annoying or irritating
>walking along with a somber expression
>stops in the middle of a hallway
>stares into space
>I'M ACTING
>turns around, re-enters the building and follows through on some moronic, impulsive action or other
Felt like this happened every other episode. It was as dependable as Mike fricking around with some tools for twenty minutes.
So not irritating or annoying
Bad acting is always annoying. I'm glad she's so walled out her career is nearly over.
It wasnt bad tho
Probably not, she has another series with Gilligan coming out, he seems to really like her and he has said that if he ever does another show in the BrBa franchise it would be with Kim as the mc
If Kim has thousands of simps I am one of them
If Kim has one simp I am he
If Kim has no simps I am dead
On a related note, Paige.
>with a simp army in the tens of thousands.
She is too powerful
It was meh after season 3
I loved the last 3 seasons but I did miss Chuck
The ending is the standard for a filter
Lots of em Mike
>makes himself untraceable
You liked the first 3 seasons with Chuck but then it became a shitty Breaking Bad lite with absolute clown characters like Lalo and the ending was complete subversive garbage and you wonder why you wasted all of that time to be punked by Bince again.
There is nothing subversive with the ending, wtf are you on about
Buffoon.
No you're just moronic and using buzzwords from the 2010s
Lalo was the best thing to happen to the later half of the show
YEP
YUP
Mexican cartels just aren't as kino as the Italian mafia of the 1900s. Germans aren't as cool as Germans in the 1900s. Rhea Seehorn isn't as cute as in the 1900s. It all falls apart.
Italian Mafia was just as bad, we just didnt get viral videos of it
>le mob
you thought it was a good show but the ending completely ruined the whole thing for you.
Basic b***hes
Best episode is in the last season when plans to rob the mall. Everything else is forgettable