Emotionally exploitative, as first post said. I never finished it, got to just after Rocket was saved and dgaf'd out.
Bautista is a pudgy pile of shit in it, Karen Gillen or whatever has an obese face, Pom is a noted prostitute and bad actor, Gunn's wife as the security guard is ultra conspicuous and unwelcome, High Evo nog is a non-entity, I couldn't get a grasp at all on Adam Warlock's power level but it was obvious he wasn't anything more than an adult baby used for comedy, ad infinitum.
what do you mean by emotionally exploitative/blackmailing?
I don't watch shit where theres animals and the obvious point is to make you feel bad when they get hurt just because they are animals. It's dishonest filmmaking
>what do you mean by emotionally exploitative/blackmailing?
The emotionality of the Rocket, Lylla, Teefs, Floor story wasn't carried on the back of the story, the characters, how it was depicted, or anything else, but relied and got by solely on people responding negatively to animal cruelty. Instead of making us care for reasons specifically to do with the movie, audiences care because they aren't sociopaths.
And that has nothing to do with Rocket, Guardians, Marvel, movies, anything at all. It exploits something unrelated, unearned by the movie and the story, and propels itself forward from that. It's shitty. I've heard tale the beginning of that Pixar movie Up does the same at its very beginning, only with an elderly couple being split apart by death.
i agree to an extent, but i think its somewhat earned given that the experimented-on raccoon has always been one of the main characters. it does stand to reason that hed come from somewhere thats messing with animals
True, it is more just my personal feeling towards that type of stuff. The rest of what I saw wasn't very good, honestly the animal stuff was probably the best part. Soundtrack was abysmal from what I saw which is half the point of these movies
>Soundtrack was abysmal from what I saw which is half the point of these movies
this is true, it was the weakest of the trilogy by far in that regard
It wasn't abysmal, but I agree it was definitely the weakest. I think the only ones that were really great and/or appropriate picks on the level of the previous two films were >Since You've Been Gone >Do You Realize? >This Is the Day >No Sleep Till Brooklyn >Dog Days Are Over
and the rest ranged from "meh" to "why is this in the film?"
I think opening up the soundtrack to decades other than the 70s/80s just meant that they were too overwhelmed for choice. Restricting the choices to those two decades really focused the first two soundtracks, and this one was too wide-ranging.
>what do you mean by emotionally exploitative/blackmailing?
The emotionality of the Rocket, Lylla, Teefs, Floor story wasn't carried on the back of the story, the characters, how it was depicted, or anything else, but relied and got by solely on people responding negatively to animal cruelty. Instead of making us care for reasons specifically to do with the movie, audiences care because they aren't sociopaths.
And that has nothing to do with Rocket, Guardians, Marvel, movies, anything at all. It exploits something unrelated, unearned by the movie and the story, and propels itself forward from that. It's shitty. I've heard tale the beginning of that Pixar movie Up does the same at its very beginning, only with an elderly couple being split apart by death.
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anyone that thinks this movie is good is moronic
the villains only real scene is when he just dies, the rest was emotional garbage about animal abuse
anyone that agrees gets a (You) on the house, I can't be botheredto read anything else
There was 0 development for gamora and 0 reason to help the crew. This was a minor thing
The racoon got out of coma and had 0 emotional impact, or even physical one. This was a major thing, him waking up was supposed to be the climax of the whole movie plot, but they rush it to have a final fight on the ship (that had 0 stakes or difficulty)
Emotionally exploitative, as first post said. I never finished it, got to just after Rocket was saved and dgaf'd out.
Bautista is a pudgy pile of shit in it, Karen Gillen or whatever has an obese face, Pom is a noted prostitute and bad actor, Gunn's wife as the security guard is ultra conspicuous and unwelcome, High Evo nog is a non-entity, I couldn't get a grasp at all on Adam Warlock's power level but it was obvious he wasn't anything more than an adult baby used for comedy, ad infinitum.
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anyone that thinks this movie is good is moronic
the villains only real scene is when he just dies, the rest was emotional garbage about animal abuse
anyone that agrees gets a (You) on the house, I can't be botheredto read anything else
Probably bait. You have to be underage or have an underdeveloped brain to think like this about a space comedy.
There was 0 development for gamora and 0 reason to help the crew. This was a minor thing
The racoon got out of coma and had 0 emotional impact, or even physical one. This was a major thing, him waking up was supposed to be the climax of the whole movie plot, but they rush it to have a final fight on the ship (that had 0 stakes or difficulty)
Rocket (in a coma) is taken into the ship by the bad guys, and the final battle is with the bad guy having rocket's body on his arms.
Bad guy could have won, but he didn't because he refused to drop Rocket at one point, because maybe he didn't cared about him, but ultimately he didn't want Rocket to die.
The ship starts to came down and everything is blowing up, and that's when rocket awakes
Resume movie from the point where he wants to save the normal animals
>There was 0 development for gamora and 0 reason to help the crew
Gamora worked under Thanos while he was culling half of populations, and only struck out after he agreed to wipe out an entire planet for Ronan. Gamora only chooses to join the team this time after the High Evolutionary destroys an entire planet for failing him.
Yeah the final fight really sucked ass, he was like the most powerful b***h in the universe kicking everyone's ass and then the Guardians are suddenly able to beat him because they team up or something? At least in the rest of the movies they had to do something clever because they actually weren't strong enough to beat the main villain
>0 reason to help the crew
They hired her to help infiltrate the weird organic facility thing. After that she gets dragged along by the events and in the end helps out because she is ultimately a good person. It's not difficult to understand.
Emotionally exploitative, as first post said. I never finished it, got to just after Rocket was saved and dgaf'd out.
Bautista is a pudgy pile of shit in it, Karen Gillen or whatever has an obese face, Pom is a noted prostitute and bad actor, Gunn's wife as the security guard is ultra conspicuous and unwelcome, High Evo nog is a non-entity, I couldn't get a grasp at all on Adam Warlock's power level but it was obvious he wasn't anything more than an adult baby used for comedy, ad infinitum.
>starlord is a drunk b***h >trans girl power >hecking furry dude is dying >manipulating animal abuse >they turned the space otter babe into a freak >bad guy fixated on perfection never fixed his own face >idiot pirate guy being mean to doggo
1 > 2 > 3
>just got around to watching this, what did i think of it? >"Frslksdjpoasdijhfa dosafddooaodsdnhf![gasps for air]SweerjlASKDjfoasidoasidjdoifjads fda;lsadasdkda;ld;ldfpap[dpfj[pdojaepqpjqwjpd0dsade;dlf..."[eyes roll into back of head, slow heavy metal music begins to play]
One of the worst movies I've seen in my life. Only good parts were the, what was essentially a short movie about Rocket's back-story that they spliced into the film.
If you were not bored watching the "action" scenes in this film, then either your opinion has to be purely on what you think other people think you should think about it ("it's a popular movie franchise so it's supposed to be good, so I like it!"), or you're brain damaged. Maybe you're brain damaged in both cases, actually.
Everyone was in worse shape compared to earlier movies, with less flattering and cheaper costumes.
Peter doesn't have his mask or jet boots anymore for no reason and that would have avoided the entire emotional fake out ending, making it feel more forced than normal.
Gamora shouldn't have been in the movie, because she's dead.
>*carries your film*
I also got round to watching it a couple days back. Thought it was the weakest of the Guardians films, but I still enjoyed it overall. I liked that it was ballsier than every other MCU film with all the violence/gore, the darkness of the animal abuse stuff, and some of the jokes. The Rocket flashbacks and High Evolutionary scenes are capekino but everything else feels really meandering and slightly random, like they came up with all the Rocket/HE stuff first and then weren't sure what to do for the rest of the film. The other Guardians mostly felt like afterthoughts. The film probably would've been better had it happened before Infinity War and Endgame, because Star-Lord and Gamora were really screwed over by that, and if Gunn had never been temporarily fired.
Also, I dunno if it's just me, but I felt the way it was shot was really weird. It was like they used some fisheye lens for most of the movie and did most scenes in really wide shots so the wideness was kind of doubled, and it all just made me feel oddly uncomfortable.
I thought it was one of the better MCU costumes tbh. Or maybe I'm only saying that because I really like the prosthetics they did with his head/facemask
Some of the concept art was better imo, but concept art usually is
at least we can still get a Star Lord spin off
How would a Star Lord solo movie even work? I'm not sure Chris Pratt could carry a movie all by himself, unless he was just going round stomping koopas
I guess i should have said it differently. They hammered in the animal abuse because people will react strongly to that. Just felt like it really overstayed its welcome.
Also forgot to mention they made drax a piece of shit. Ends with them saying he's supposed to be a loving dude, but also completely ignored he straight up killed or seriously injured that rando for his motorcycle. Also the scene where he smashes that ball into that kids face. But oh wait he likes kids. What?
Those animal people designs were pretty fuggin ugly
I don't understand the complaints that the movie emotionally manipulative. That's pretty much every James Gunn's movie.
His third acts always come off as Hallmark drama with how emotionally manipulative and overly dramatic they were. He'll use shit like mother cancer or cute animals suffering abuse, or cute girls dying, and things like that will obviously make normies tear up. He'll even use music and have characters act like they're in a soap opera to push it further.
Were people that put off by the animal thing that the spell broke off?
Not a comic guy, but I would suggest look up a chronological release.
or look at each specific series and find out what the general plot is and if you're interested in it, paired with artstyle because that goes a long way with comic books and can make or break the experience, I presume.
Fricking depressing as shit, not that I'm complaining, it worked pretty well but I stopped watching at like the last half hour, when they confront the High Evolutionary.
I hate flashback storytelling, for the record.
I wouldn't recommend it. Volume 3 is to Rocket what Volume 2 was to Starlord. Except a lot more awkward in its storytelling, somehow.
Oh and where the second one pretty much entirely focuses on Starlord, the third one has as much focus dedicated to Rocket but also tries to squeeze in like four other unrelated subplots. So you'll have a random scene with Adam Warlock, then it'll cut to Rocket's drug-induced PTSD flashbacks for fifteen minutes, then a scene with Starlord and Not-Gamora, and so on.
It's a clusterfrick, basically.
>at least the humor isn't cringe like in 2
this is true actually, gunn managed to avoid a lot of the really shitty jokes that plagued 2 (which i otherwise liked)
I really liked that war-pig robot / enemy.
Scary and violent in its appearance and demeanor. Darker than most characters in a Marvel movie. Not as friendly as Porky Pig or Wilbur.
Did they edit that woman's body on the right??? The frick, she had a proper waist and hourglass figure in the other movies. I haven't watched this one, does her character become obese or something to explain that body change
It's not bad, but I don't like feeling sad for no reason. Putting cute animals on screen for the express purpose of torturing them and making the audience sad is lame. The dynamics felt off too. They went from being the goofy funny space adventurers to all being depressed.
and another thing why even put james gunns brother in as yondu 2. just let him get his rocket raccoon paycheck don't be fricking greedy with shoving your brother in, his character sucks.
I watched the christmas special and it was funny, light-hearted and entertaining. I don't know what the frick happened between that show and this depressing, purposefully not-fun slog.
Only made it halfway, emotional blackmail for normies. Was zero fun and just a boring bummer
what do you mean by emotionally exploitative/blackmailing?
I don't watch shit where theres animals and the obvious point is to make you feel bad when they get hurt just because they are animals. It's dishonest filmmaking
i agree to an extent, but i think its somewhat earned given that the experimented-on raccoon has always been one of the main characters. it does stand to reason that hed come from somewhere thats messing with animals
True, it is more just my personal feeling towards that type of stuff. The rest of what I saw wasn't very good, honestly the animal stuff was probably the best part. Soundtrack was abysmal from what I saw which is half the point of these movies
>Soundtrack was abysmal from what I saw which is half the point of these movies
this is true, it was the weakest of the trilogy by far in that regard
>opens with fricking creep
i turned 360 degrees and left
It wasn't abysmal, but I agree it was definitely the weakest. I think the only ones that were really great and/or appropriate picks on the level of the previous two films were
>Since You've Been Gone
>Do You Realize?
>This Is the Day
>No Sleep Till Brooklyn
>Dog Days Are Over
and the rest ranged from "meh" to "why is this in the film?"
I think opening up the soundtrack to decades other than the 70s/80s just meant that they were too overwhelmed for choice. Restricting the choices to those two decades really focused the first two soundtracks, and this one was too wide-ranging.
this, and the shit that they do to Rocket on the comics is way worse than what is shown in the movie.
>what do you mean by emotionally exploitative/blackmailing?
The emotionality of the Rocket, Lylla, Teefs, Floor story wasn't carried on the back of the story, the characters, how it was depicted, or anything else, but relied and got by solely on people responding negatively to animal cruelty. Instead of making us care for reasons specifically to do with the movie, audiences care because they aren't sociopaths.
And that has nothing to do with Rocket, Guardians, Marvel, movies, anything at all. It exploits something unrelated, unearned by the movie and the story, and propels itself forward from that. It's shitty. I've heard tale the beginning of that Pixar movie Up does the same at its very beginning, only with an elderly couple being split apart by death.
yeap, i agree with you, have a nice day
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anyone that thinks this movie is good is moronic
the villains only real scene is when he just dies, the rest was emotional garbage about animal abuse
anyone that agrees gets a (You) on the house, I can't be botheredto read anything else
>emotional blackmail for normies
Then this movie wasnt for you, moron
What do you mean?
good evening sirs
Probably bait. You have to be underage or have an underdeveloped brain to think like this about a space comedy.
Couldn't finish watching it, it was kind of boring but I thought the same of 2 for the most part
all of the older generation of my family love it, even though it was the most obvious thing imaginable
as far as capeshit goes it wasnt all that bad
Might be the best guardians film, I can't decide.
Very watchable first time through
Asian actress is beautiful and you get some good shots of her butt
>Asian actress
There was 0 development for gamora and 0 reason to help the crew. This was a minor thing
The racoon got out of coma and had 0 emotional impact, or even physical one. This was a major thing, him waking up was supposed to be the climax of the whole movie plot, but they rush it to have a final fight on the ship (that had 0 stakes or difficulty)
Can you write a better ending, chagpt? Frick off
Rocket (in a coma) is taken into the ship by the bad guys, and the final battle is with the bad guy having rocket's body on his arms.
Bad guy could have won, but he didn't because he refused to drop Rocket at one point, because maybe he didn't cared about him, but ultimately he didn't want Rocket to die.
The ship starts to came down and everything is blowing up, and that's when rocket awakes
Resume movie from the point where he wants to save the normal animals
>There was 0 development for gamora and 0 reason to help the crew
Gamora worked under Thanos while he was culling half of populations, and only struck out after he agreed to wipe out an entire planet for Ronan. Gamora only chooses to join the team this time after the High Evolutionary destroys an entire planet for failing him.
So what's your point?
Yeah the final fight really sucked ass, he was like the most powerful b***h in the universe kicking everyone's ass and then the Guardians are suddenly able to beat him because they team up or something? At least in the rest of the movies they had to do something clever because they actually weren't strong enough to beat the main villain
>0 reason to help the crew
They hired her to help infiltrate the weird organic facility thing. After that she gets dragged along by the events and in the end helps out because she is ultimately a good person. It's not difficult to understand.
i thought it was alright
Emotionally exploitative, as first post said. I never finished it, got to just after Rocket was saved and dgaf'd out.
Bautista is a pudgy pile of shit in it, Karen Gillen or whatever has an obese face, Pom is a noted prostitute and bad actor, Gunn's wife as the security guard is ultra conspicuous and unwelcome, High Evo nog is a non-entity, I couldn't get a grasp at all on Adam Warlock's power level but it was obvious he wasn't anything more than an adult baby used for comedy, ad infinitum.
The most unrealistic part of this movie is the Black person mega-genius.
>starlord is a drunk b***h
>trans girl power
>hecking furry dude is dying
>manipulating animal abuse
>they turned the space otter babe into a freak
>bad guy fixated on perfection never fixed his own face
>idiot pirate guy being mean to doggo
1 > 2 > 3
>just got around to watching this, what did i think of it?
>"Frslksdjpoasdijhfa dosafddooaodsdnhf![gasps for air]SweerjlASKDjfoasidoasidjdoifjads fda;lsadasdkda;ld;ldfpap[dpfj[pdojaepqpjqwjpd0dsade;dlf..."[eyes roll into back of head, slow heavy metal music begins to play]
Guardians are the only good movies in MCU. So it's kino.
One of the worst movies I've seen in my life. Only good parts were the, what was essentially a short movie about Rocket's back-story that they spliced into the film.
If you were not bored watching the "action" scenes in this film, then either your opinion has to be purely on what you think other people think you should think about it ("it's a popular movie franchise so it's supposed to be good, so I like it!"), or you're brain damaged. Maybe you're brain damaged in both cases, actually.
That the whole organic space station part should have been cut.
easily the worst guardian film
2 > 1 > 3
It was okay but I didn't like that they made Gamora unlikable or didn't have Star-Lord and Nebula get together.
Not as good as the first two
Gamora is so much more likable in the game
Everyone was in worse shape compared to earlier movies, with less flattering and cheaper costumes.
Peter doesn't have his mask or jet boots anymore for no reason and that would have avoided the entire emotional fake out ending, making it feel more forced than normal.
Gamora shouldn't have been in the movie, because she's dead.
It was okay.
>*carries your film*
I also got round to watching it a couple days back. Thought it was the weakest of the Guardians films, but I still enjoyed it overall. I liked that it was ballsier than every other MCU film with all the violence/gore, the darkness of the animal abuse stuff, and some of the jokes. The Rocket flashbacks and High Evolutionary scenes are capekino but everything else feels really meandering and slightly random, like they came up with all the Rocket/HE stuff first and then weren't sure what to do for the rest of the film. The other Guardians mostly felt like afterthoughts. The film probably would've been better had it happened before Infinity War and Endgame, because Star-Lord and Gamora were really screwed over by that, and if Gunn had never been temporarily fired.
Also, I dunno if it's just me, but I felt the way it was shot was really weird. It was like they used some fisheye lens for most of the movie and did most scenes in really wide shots so the wideness was kind of doubled, and it all just made me feel oddly uncomfortable.
>like they came up with all the Rocket/HE stuff first and then weren't sure what to do for the rest of the film
James Gunn wanted to adapt We3, and seems to have partially done so
Rocket being an experiment was always part of his backstory.
Isn't he just a talking alien raccoon in early comics?
He's staff on a lunatic asylum planet, with his animal friends/colleagues.
god I fricking hate MCU costume design
I thought it was one of the better MCU costumes tbh. Or maybe I'm only saying that because I really like the prosthetics they did with his head/facemask
Some of the concept art was better imo, but concept art usually is
How would a Star Lord solo movie even work? I'm not sure Chris Pratt could carry a movie all by himself, unless he was just going round stomping koopas
There are Star Lord spin off comics and one of them has him marry Kitty Pryde from X-Men
>Bendisshit
Quill was fricking annoying to listen to for the umpteenth time about him not understanding that gamorra is not the same as the one he knew
Rocket backstory felt tacked on because normies and animals
The ending where everyone fricks off because of various stupid reasons felt like they just wanted to end the series but didn't know how
Was okay
>Rocket backstory felt tacked on because normies and animals
It wasn't, it was close to his comic origins
I guess i should have said it differently. They hammered in the animal abuse because people will react strongly to that. Just felt like it really overstayed its welcome.
Also forgot to mention they made drax a piece of shit. Ends with them saying he's supposed to be a loving dude, but also completely ignored he straight up killed or seriously injured that rando for his motorcycle. Also the scene where he smashes that ball into that kids face. But oh wait he likes kids. What?
Those animal people designs were pretty fuggin ugly
>he straight up killed or seriously injured that rando for his motorcycle
The planet blew up anyway.
I don't understand the complaints that the movie emotionally manipulative. That's pretty much every James Gunn's movie.
His third acts always come off as Hallmark drama with how emotionally manipulative and overly dramatic they were. He'll use shit like mother cancer or cute animals suffering abuse, or cute girls dying, and things like that will obviously make normies tear up. He'll even use music and have characters act like they're in a soap opera to push it further.
Were people that put off by the animal thing that the spell broke off?
Where do I start if I want to read the Guardians comics?
Not a comic guy, but I would suggest look up a chronological release.
or look at each specific series and find out what the general plot is and if you're interested in it, paired with artstyle because that goes a long way with comic books and can make or break the experience, I presume.
Be aware, the characters are nothing like in the movies.
Oh I know, cheers
For this version of Guardians, start with ANNIHILATION. It has lead-in mini-series that start it off.
Fricking depressing as shit, not that I'm complaining, it worked pretty well but I stopped watching at like the last half hour, when they confront the High Evolutionary.
I hate flashback storytelling, for the record.
I thought the first one was okay and hated the second one. should I give this one a shot? my autism doesn't like that I've only seen two of the three.
I wouldn't recommend it. Volume 3 is to Rocket what Volume 2 was to Starlord. Except a lot more awkward in its storytelling, somehow.
3 is the best one
Oh and where the second one pretty much entirely focuses on Starlord, the third one has as much focus dedicated to Rocket but also tries to squeeze in like four other unrelated subplots. So you'll have a random scene with Adam Warlock, then it'll cut to Rocket's drug-induced PTSD flashbacks for fifteen minutes, then a scene with Starlord and Not-Gamora, and so on.
It's a clusterfrick, basically.
No, it's clear you have really bad taste.
>mmm yummy more slop please
>mmm yummy more semen please
If I were YOU, I wouldn't bother.
the dog days are over
no idea, nobody has told me what to think about this movie either so I dunno what to tell you to think in turn
it was ok
the flashbacks came across as hamfisted and desperate, but at least the humor isn't cringe like in 2
>at least the humor isn't cringe like in 2
this is true actually, gunn managed to avoid a lot of the really shitty jokes that plagued 2 (which i otherwise liked)
I really liked that war-pig robot / enemy.
Scary and violent in its appearance and demeanor. Darker than most characters in a Marvel movie. Not as friendly as Porky Pig or Wilbur.
Was Gamora a Guardian in part 3? I thought this Gamora never joined?
There's no point in her being in this movie. It just makes the point that this ISN'T the same Gamora, and leaves her that way.
isn't that point for Peter more than the viewers? he's the one who can't get over it
Infinity War/Endgame really screwed over the Guardians
better than the first
The game is free on Timmy's site right now.
mid
horrible visuals too surprisingly
1 > 3 > 2
Did they edit that woman's body on the right??? The frick, she had a proper waist and hourglass figure in the other movies. I haven't watched this one, does her character become obese or something to explain that body change
I'm not a fan of capeshit but guardians is kino
>what did i think of it?
mor cgi capespace shit shite
ultra based i was sad wen told part of mcu.... and i was unfortunately vindicated
I watch it for the cute raccoon but overall probably the weakest of the 3
It was okay. Sean Gunn detracts from the movie every time he is onscreen.
THE DOG DAYS ARE OVER
THE DOG. DAYS. ARE. DONE.
THE HORSES ARE COMING
SO YOU’D BETTER RUN! :’(
ROCKET FLOOR TEEFS GO NOW
I wanted more guardians movies, isn’t Lylla the Otter actually a regular character in the comics?
It's not bad, but I don't like feeling sad for no reason. Putting cute animals on screen for the express purpose of torturing them and making the audience sad is lame. The dynamics felt off too. They went from being the goofy funny space adventurers to all being depressed.
Yeah the first two were fun space adventures with lovable characters it felt so sad that we’ll never get them again
i wish they actually introduced cosmo and had her do things. i honestly just skipped the torture scenes i'm not watching that shit. weird.
and another thing why even put james gunns brother in as yondu 2. just let him get his rocket raccoon paycheck don't be fricking greedy with shoving your brother in, his character sucks.
probably the ugliest marvel film so far
I watched the christmas special and it was funny, light-hearted and entertaining. I don't know what the frick happened between that show and this depressing, purposefully not-fun slog.
There was salt flowing through Gunn's veins when he made the movie.
you hated that Karen Gillian has become a fridge with a dudes body. Holy frick she fell off.
at least we can still get a Star Lord spin off
Watched only the first one and it was dogshit
I wanted to frick the rabbit, its voice turned me on like crazy, it was voiced by a mature woman so it's okay