I thought it was very good but maybe a little too overhyped for me. some of the court room scenes felt a little hokey but maybe I don't know how it works in France. the dog story saving the day seemed a little out there too
The point of the dog scene was that really just rulling was impossible and ultimately it was up to the kid to chose what version of reality he wants to believe in.
The fault was both of the husband and wife, kid CHOSE to save mother because he didnt want to become alone, even though he had closer relation to his father.
right, i suppose i just didn't buy into the idea that the kid was able to think of that story enough to convince the court enough. definitely makes sense that he knew he'd be alone if she disappeared though
The point of the dog scene was that really just rulling was impossible and ultimately it was up to the kid to chose what version of reality he wants to believe in.
The fault was both of the husband and wife, kid CHOSE to save mother because he didnt want to become alone, even though he had closer relation to his father.
I'm a sucker for courtkino but this is great so far. I like the kid, not unrealistic but very smart. The movie seems most to be communicating the trauma and breaking apart of relationships that can happen as a result of unnecessarily brutal litigation, and I suspect that message would be muddled if the woman turns out to be guilty, but even then it would be a highly entertaining story if nothing else.
I'm a sucker for courtkino but this is great so far. I like the kid, not unrealistic but very smart. The movie seems most to be communicating the trauma and breaking apart of relationships that can happen as a result of unnecessarily brutal litigation, and I suspect that message would be muddled if the woman turns out to be guilty, but even then it would be a highly entertaining story if nothing else.
It was kino. I'm glad they didn't reveal it. I was absolutely sure they were gonna have a scene at the end showing her killing him.
only burgers do that.
though, it's pretty obvious it starts wanting you thinking she did it, and at the end of the trial it wants you to think the opposite
>and at the end of the trial it wants you to think the opposite
Not really, the reveals that make it seem like father killed himself were invented by the kid.
Only she knows what happened and there was no way to determine how it occured for outside spectators given the evidence.
>Only she knows what happened and there was no way to determine how it occurred for outside spectators given the evidence.
we can't be sure, of course, that the point of the movie, the doubt.
In regard of his death, for the sake of truth, but also about the doubt in trials.
But the movie is not about solving a mystery, not even about the trial from each side, it's about a women's defense in court and her son trying to make sense out of it.
The suicide defense itself was made up by the lawyer at the start of the movie because nobody will buy it's an accident. Adds to that the kid mistaking the stripes, her taking a nap while the husband is blasting his music and the first expert telling the blood could only be projected from higher and the hit happened before the fall.
You don't watch a movie trying to prove her guilty, she starts guilty.
And the movie, if it doesn't get to prove her innocent, tries to get to a reasonable doubt about what happened for her to be left free.
The director's intents seem clear enough to me, she's trying to defend that women more than anything else.
I knew the dog did it as soon as the death happened.
Nobody suspected Snoop and he could easily go upstairs and down fast to meet the blind kid for a walk, basically establishing an alibi.
Later on Snoop also helps absolve the wife with the entire pill swallowing thing. He likely brought the pills to the blind kid to suggest the experiment. It was bold to put his life on the line to get the wife off the hook. The salt water was a misdirection, he never ate enough pills to die.
The ending scene confirms it. The wife refuses to get intimate with her lawyer and then goes home, where she gets into bed and Snoop shows up and she passionately hugs him.
Basically the wife had an affair with Snoop and they conspired together.
>prostitute fricks the neighbourhood [30 minutes of sex scenes because french] >Kills the husband because she's a courageous bawd >Rest of the film is about how difficult everything is for her >At the end of the movie she wins and everyone claps
I hate women so much it's unreal
>impotent "idea man" husband >dead end job in some village in the middle of nowhere >working on his book, gets ghosted by publisher over it being garbage >jealous of his successful wife >rambles on to his own son how he's going to kill himself >poor impulse control and prone to childish tantrums >can't even kill himself right without fricking up his family over it and dragging them to court
The kid made up the dad's car convo for sure. Son of 2 writers who just happens to remember his dad gave a cliche speech to him. And the way the scene was shown of the dad moving his mouth silently while the kid put in his words.
Maybe he was just rage jumping out of the window and didn't expect to die lol.
I happen to think he was just a moron and fell out the window by accident. Blasting his music, pissed about his wife, not really paying attention then it just happens.
It's more likely than suicide but the window isn't exactly in a location where you'd just trip and fall out. The lawyer points that out which is why he says they have to go with suicide.
>but the window isn't exactly in a location where you'd just trip and fall out
the window was open at the time. He probably wanted to get some air to cool off since he's mad and whoops! It's a bad defense in court given the circumstances, the lawyer was right about that.
I'd also point out that without the recording of their argument the day before, the accident theory holds a lot more water than either suicide or murder. It was a weak case to prosecute in the first place outside of that.
If I remember the window was a fairly small triangle that itself was kinda hidden under a lower ceiling. I think he would have needed to crawl open it which makes it a bit unlikely to fall out. But sure it might happen, really awkward things happen all the time.
I just think in the context of everything she did murder him likely. The kid even has to lie 2 times to save the mom.
But it's not definite and cannot be proven.
Unltimately this wasn't a whodunnit but more about experiencing how their relationship fell apart and how the kid dealt with the situation.
I spoke to some friends who thought the woman was guilty. As someone who's dated a German, she wasn't cold, or a b***h. She was just German. They're all like that. I thought she was innocent. The point of the movie is that her kid was psycopath.
Yeah, there's no way the conversation about the dog in the car actually happened. He didn't believe his dad killed himself and didn't believe his mom did it, but he had to pick a side based on what Marge told him.
I think he did think his mom did it, but his dad is dead and he's a blind kid so he realizes it's better to just go along with it.
Also the way the "court" functions is hilarious >We're gonna send this unbiased observed with you so you don't influence your kid >"Hey kid your mom could go to jail if you don't conveniently remember something to save her."
I thought it was very good but maybe a little too overhyped for me. some of the court room scenes felt a little hokey but maybe I don't know how it works in France. the dog story saving the day seemed a little out there too
As I understood it the dog story is meant to be fictitious
right, i suppose i just didn't buy into the idea that the kid was able to think of that story enough to convince the court enough. definitely makes sense that he knew he'd be alone if she disappeared though
The point of the dog scene was that really just rulling was impossible and ultimately it was up to the kid to chose what version of reality he wants to believe in.
The fault was both of the husband and wife, kid CHOSE to save mother because he didnt want to become alone, even though he had closer relation to his father.
Captain Anon's Log:
I'm 45 minutes into it right now and thoroughly enjoying it. Will report back throughout/when done.
I'm a sucker for courtkino but this is great so far. I like the kid, not unrealistic but very smart. The movie seems most to be communicating the trauma and breaking apart of relationships that can happen as a result of unnecessarily brutal litigation, and I suspect that message would be muddled if the woman turns out to be guilty, but even then it would be a highly entertaining story if nothing else.
It was kino. I'm glad they didn't reveal it. I was absolutely sure they were gonna have a scene at the end showing her killing him.
only burgers do that.
though, it's pretty obvious it starts wanting you thinking she did it, and at the end of the trial it wants you to think the opposite
>and at the end of the trial it wants you to think the opposite
Not really, the reveals that make it seem like father killed himself were invented by the kid.
Only she knows what happened and there was no way to determine how it occured for outside spectators given the evidence.
>Only she knows what happened and there was no way to determine how it occurred for outside spectators given the evidence.
we can't be sure, of course, that the point of the movie, the doubt.
In regard of his death, for the sake of truth, but also about the doubt in trials.
But the movie is not about solving a mystery, not even about the trial from each side, it's about a women's defense in court and her son trying to make sense out of it.
The suicide defense itself was made up by the lawyer at the start of the movie because nobody will buy it's an accident. Adds to that the kid mistaking the stripes, her taking a nap while the husband is blasting his music and the first expert telling the blood could only be projected from higher and the hit happened before the fall.
You don't watch a movie trying to prove her guilty, she starts guilty.
And the movie, if it doesn't get to prove her innocent, tries to get to a reasonable doubt about what happened for her to be left free.
The director's intents seem clear enough to me, she's trying to defend that women more than anything else.
Was not expecting a 50cent song to be part of the plot.
he did insult her a little
I knew the dog did it as soon as the death happened.
Nobody suspected Snoop and he could easily go upstairs and down fast to meet the blind kid for a walk, basically establishing an alibi.
Later on Snoop also helps absolve the wife with the entire pill swallowing thing. He likely brought the pills to the blind kid to suggest the experiment. It was bold to put his life on the line to get the wife off the hook. The salt water was a misdirection, he never ate enough pills to die.
The ending scene confirms it. The wife refuses to get intimate with her lawyer and then goes home, where she gets into bed and Snoop shows up and she passionately hugs him.
Basically the wife had an affair with Snoop and they conspired together.
Red Rooms > Anatomy
>marathon
>one movie
illiterate monkey
to be fair, those movies are getting longer and longer, it will be soon less time consuming to run an actual marathon
It was decent, but the exposition via courtroom drama felt too deliberate.
marathoning this now, about halfway through
pretty kino so far, but I think I know where it's going...
>marathoning
>one movie
illiterate baboon
newbie
illiterate hippo
>prostitute fricks the neighbourhood [30 minutes of sex scenes because french]
>Kills the husband because she's a courageous bawd
>Rest of the film is about how difficult everything is for her
>At the end of the movie she wins and everyone claps
I hate women so much it's unreal
>impotent "idea man" husband
>dead end job in some village in the middle of nowhere
>working on his book, gets ghosted by publisher over it being garbage
>jealous of his successful wife
>rambles on to his own son how he's going to kill himself
>poor impulse control and prone to childish tantrums
>can't even kill himself right without fricking up his family over it and dragging them to court
on to his own son how he's going to kill himself
Anon this was not real, he made it up to end the court case
Was anything real, really?
>it was just a few flings!
fricking c**t
How do you "marathon" one 2h30m film, that's just watching it normally.
Made me cry lowkey
moronic premise: no way the guy would try to "kill himself" by jumping from a short height into the snow. It's a mediocre courtroom drama
He didn't want to get cucked again
This is easily the weakest point of the story and it's never addressed
The kid made up the dad's car convo for sure. Son of 2 writers who just happens to remember his dad gave a cliche speech to him. And the way the scene was shown of the dad moving his mouth silently while the kid put in his words.
Maybe he was just rage jumping out of the window and didn't expect to die lol.
>that part with the dog and the aspirin
moronic nonsense. The rest of the movie makes sense then that shit gets thrown in. What the frick?
I happen to think he was just a moron and fell out the window by accident. Blasting his music, pissed about his wife, not really paying attention then it just happens.
It's more likely than suicide but the window isn't exactly in a location where you'd just trip and fall out. The lawyer points that out which is why he says they have to go with suicide.
>but the window isn't exactly in a location where you'd just trip and fall out
the window was open at the time. He probably wanted to get some air to cool off since he's mad and whoops! It's a bad defense in court given the circumstances, the lawyer was right about that.
I'd also point out that without the recording of their argument the day before, the accident theory holds a lot more water than either suicide or murder. It was a weak case to prosecute in the first place outside of that.
If I remember the window was a fairly small triangle that itself was kinda hidden under a lower ceiling. I think he would have needed to crawl open it which makes it a bit unlikely to fall out. But sure it might happen, really awkward things happen all the time.
I just think in the context of everything she did murder him likely. The kid even has to lie 2 times to save the mom.
But it's not definite and cannot be proven.
Unltimately this wasn't a whodunnit but more about experiencing how their relationship fell apart and how the kid dealt with the situation.
I think it was clear she was guilty, kid was just a little blind israelite who calculated that its more profitable to not send her to prison
I spoke to some friends who thought the woman was guilty. As someone who's dated a German, she wasn't cold, or a b***h. She was just German. They're all like that. I thought she was innocent. The point of the movie is that her kid was psycopath.
>The point of the movie is that her kid was psycopath.
Not really, this whole thing was an alegory of a divorce,
>poisons dog
>saltwater magically brings him back to life
Yeah, there's no way the conversation about the dog in the car actually happened. He didn't believe his dad killed himself and didn't believe his mom did it, but he had to pick a side based on what Marge told him.
I think he did think his mom did it, but his dad is dead and he's a blind kid so he realizes it's better to just go along with it.
Also the way the "court" functions is hilarious
>We're gonna send this unbiased observed with you so you don't influence your kid
>"Hey kid your mom could go to jail if you don't conveniently remember something to save her."