>Shallow plot
>Shallow characters
>Shallow world building
>Terrible dialogue
Am I being fooled? No way people think this is the pinnacle of Science Fiction. Is this just another example of the seinfeld effect?
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Villie was told off for having little screen time for Zendaya. He fixed that in the sequel: Dune 2 Zendaya is Better
She is the reason I will not watch these movies.
I enjoyed the movie, but it's carried hard by the excellent filmmaking. The script is middling.
Movie looks and sounds great, no doubt about that.
>No way people think this is the pinnacle of Science Fiction.
it's bait. you're being meme'd.
It kind of is. The book is okay, but it's no masterpiece. Overrated as frick. Dumb it down enough to fit into the movie format and it just becames another Alt Star Wars. But I guess that's exactly what the audiences wanted at this point in time.
Dune is the ultimate midwit sci-fi. It's for the kind of people who watch Star Wars and Star Trek but somehow feel they are superior so they need to find slightly more obscure goyslop.
They trick themselves into thinking it's an intellectual story because they confuse boring and generic with depth and complexity. In their minds all artsy shit is boring and slow, so if they watch something boring and slow it's artsy and great.
Spot on.
Can’t disagree, I thiught the movies so far were “okay”. People that ask me about what I thought think I am crazy for nit being crazy for them. I just don’t have anything that I really liked about the movies.
plot
characters
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All of this, aside from the "shallow world building," is also the case with the original Dune novels.
They're highly original works full of fascinating themes and complex ideas, but the story itself is just a framework for those ideas. Frank Herbert wasn't a novelist when he wrote the first Dune, he was a journalist. And it shows.
>fascinating themes and complex ideas
Dude what if middle east...I meant arrakis had a bunch of people who harvest oil....I mean spice and spice is really important and expensive, and people kill eachother with guns....I mean knives
I am so intellectual, the themes are theming so good right now
The way that the LOTR books are really about linguistics, but first Dune book was very much about ecology. I can't think of another novel written before Dune that centers ecosystems in the same way.
No one gives a single frick about muh linguistics of LotR. That's not why people read the books or watch the movies.
That aspect of LOTR informs every other aspect. Take that out, and LOTR loses all of its verisimilitude. It would just be another shallow high fantasy series for spergs.
I sense memes within memes
No one reads the lotr books these days, the tiktok generation is physiologically incapable of making it past the first song
>Is this just another example of the seinfeld effect?
What is that? I watched it first time yesterday, too, but I thought it was excellent.
here. I just looked up this Seinfeld effect. It reads like it sounds, a bullshit made-up term for usual people being stupid stuff. Also, it has no relation to your question.
What's the deal with all these buttholes talking shit about Dune!?
>Shallow plot
>Shallow characters
>Shallow world building
>Terrible dialogue
But that's your opinion. Other people, way smarter than you, might think the opposite.
no they might not
Jfc how much can you dunces continuously talk about the same fricking thing over and over again day in and out.
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Thank you. I also watched it the other day and was stunned that people say that it's great. It's awful. And worst of all, excruciatingly boring.
Ya mama is excruciatingly boring
The praise comes mostly from plebs and civilians who haven't seen anything beyond star wars and mcu slop. To them Dune is like high art to them because they have no experience with actual cinema.
What's some actually good sci-fi cinema?
David Lynch's Dune.
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Personally, while i do appreciate Villeneuve approach of mixing practical FX with the digital i still like the Lynch movie better. The art design and atmosphere alone already make the whole thing feel more otherworldly, plus Lynch has a better cinematographic sense when it comes to depict the abstract.
Villeneuve take feels too grounded for me even with the giant worms and firefly ships. He has a beautiful sense of composition and color but it still feels kind of mundane or unemotional most of the time. Maybe it´s nothing wrong with him but that Scott and Lynch just used to be that great...
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