Just watched the first episode of Blue Eye Samurai
>main character is half white half Japanese blue eyed woman who is a better samurai than all the men
>she was conceived by an evil white man who raped a Japanese woman. Everyone hates her for being a half breed and calls her a monster, round eye dog etc
>her mission is to kill the only four white guys in Japan who somehow are super powerful even though Japan is totally isolationist and killed all non Japanese who washed ashore in this period
Does this get better as it goes on or carry on in this format? Not sure why they needed to have white guys to be the main villains but set in a time period where none were allowed in Japan.
Also don’t really care to watch it if they continue this casual anti white racism without countering it. The main character is completely ashamed of being part white. Just seems like they’re happy to do it because nobody will mind.
>main character is half white half Japanese blue eyed woman who is a better samurai than all the men
this is explained in the show
>she was conceived by an evil white man who raped a Japanese woman. Everyone hates her for being a half breed and calls her a monster, round eye dog etc
this one is a fairly understandable reason to hate people
>her mission is to kill the only four white guys in Japan who somehow are super powerful even though Japan is totally isolationist and killed all non Japanese who washed ashore in this period
there are only 4 white men in japan because all the others were killed
japans isolationism is the reason its so easy to narrow down the list of targets
do you not have any media literacy?
>japan is mega isolationist and hates gaijin
>totally makes sense the only four white guys are in any way powerful and in Japan
>this one is a fairly understandable reason to hate people
It’s ok to hate mixed race people if they’re the product of rape?
>totally makes sense the only four white guys are in any way powerful and in Japan
Why was this ignored?
Only one of them was though?
I mean, one of my aunts was a half white orphan in Vietnam. She was beaten by the other kids and they shattered her teeth. She lives in America now because her husband took her out of that place, but yea, not every place likes white people if you consider the event going on in the area at the time.
media literacy gets in the way of being offended. OP just wants everyone to agree the show is more woke trash from netflix.
>media literacy
This is better known as
>agree with whatever bullshit the creator said in interviews, and ignore what happens in the creators content
AKA how could you not u
Agree starship troopers destroyed fascism? HE WORE A HECKIN NAZI UNIFORM BRO, THAT MEANS THEY BAD
>agree with whatever bullshit the creator said in interviews, and ignore what happens in the creators content
You cite Starship Troopers to prove your point even though that film is satirical in tone?
Exactly. The director failed so comprehensively the actors in the film didn’t understand what he was trying to get across. Which is not particularly surprising when he didn’t even read the book
>makes advanced society with no racism or sexism or prejudice
>OH NO YOU HAVE TO DO FEDERAL SERVICE TO VOTE ITS A NIGHTMARE
>oh his parents didn’t do it, and are rich and happy and can do whatever they enjoy
Hence why all the starship troopers “fans” desperately trying to make the satire work have to white literally invent things not in the movie for it to make more sense
>uhhh no bro, the meteor was a false flag, the bugs didn’t do it
>even though we see the bugs are capable of launching projectiles into space with accuracy, wormholes exist, and they are capable of colonising other worlds. There’s no way they could possibly launch a rock at earth
The last refuge of the Verhoeven wiener sucker starship troopers “fan” is ignoring all in movie events and screaming about “satire”.
Ah yes, perfectly shows how awful the “fascist” government was with its nuanced writing, how many fascist governments publicly broadcast their own governments failures and then have their military leader peacefully resign again?
Verhoeven simply fricked it up. He let his own personal connection from childhood taint his idea of what fascism is (which is incredibly vague based on all his interviews) and thought having Doogie Houser in an SS uniform would be some lynchpin lmao
>NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST KILL THE POOR BUGS, THEY ONLY WANTED TO DESTROY EARTH THE MASSACRE HUMANITY
>TO VOTE
Wasn't one of the cannon fodder types in Starship Troopers just there because she wanted kids and military service was a way around the no child law?
>Wasn't one of the cannon fodder types in Starship Troopers just there because she wanted kids and military service was a way around the no child law?
Rico wouldn't have been born if that was a thing since he comes from a non service family
Rico’s parents weren’t citizens, they had a kid.
Rico's parents were rich.
yes and?
Oh I get it. You're fourteen, so you think the rules apply to rich people.
Ah yes, fascist countries. Famous for not seizing the wealth of the rich
Weirdly non fascist traits in this fascist global nation. They don’t even have conscription
But they were non citizens, how could they be allowed to be rich in this evil fascist society with no freedoms? It’s a nightmare remember?
Fricking this.
How are chuds not understanding this is a subtle takedown of white supremacist colonial ideology and toxic masculinity that ruined the world. She only hates whiteness in character, it’s not a statement of creator intent. There’s no need to counter it. She is fighting the oppressors.
Chudcels really crying over everything these days
Nice try, /misc/tard. I’m guessing your false flag means you don’t actually have an earnest counter argument
>She is fighting the oppressors.
Only the Japanese are oppressing her. Yet her mission isn't to fight them.
>this is explained in the show
You mean the first episode or the rest? Cause there's no fricking way she's better than the dojo guys by simply watching and mimicking some rando.
Focusing on the theme of diversity being a source of power, her fighting ability comes largely from the fact that she has studied so many different styles whereas the dojo students commit to just one.
Bruce Lee thinks she’s shit
>I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.
>Practices 10,000 kicks 10,000 times each
What now Bruce?
>Practices 10,000 kicks 10,000 times each
>What now Bruce?
that's what he did, then he removed all the flashy stuff and now there's Jeet Kune Do
And it’s widely acknowledged that Bruce Lee would have gotten his ass kicked in an MMA match. There’s a reason people don’t use straight kung fu in actual fights.
Bruce lee actually practiced, so hed have done better than a women who jjst watches other people train.
Except she didn't study shit. She watched some guy/guys and mimicked their moves. She doesn't know the application, the form, or the specifics of any of it.
You can't learn ANY martial art with just that, that's not how it works.
You don’t get it. While people have a special history of oppressing everyone else. There is no such thing as real racism against whites. It’s just balancing the scales. It’s only natural for a person of colour with mixed white heritage to be ashamed of that whiteness
people like you have made me racist
I was a pretty open minded white guy until everyone started calling me the enemy and treating me like shit because of the skin colour I was born with and had no choice in
>I was turned racist because I easily fall for b8 on Cinemaphile
Thanks for letting everyone know you're a fricking moron
> everyone started calling me the enemy and treating me like shit because of the skin colour I was born with
No, we treat you like shit because you act like a little b***h.
Anon, you can just say you’re embarrassingly easy to manipulate. It’s a lot more concise.
People will criticise this, but think whites should accept endless shit flinging their way that they’d never see as acceptable for other races.
>I was a pretty open minded white guy
Prove it.
The show does twist the "white colonizer" trope by having Abijah Fowler be entirely motivated by power rather than a genuine belief that white people are superior over the Japanese, he's actually ambivalent about their differences and there's even a scene that subverts the religious zealotism associated with his archetype where he just cynically bargains with a statue of Jesus rather because he admits that praying would be more of an insult coming from him.
How is this a twist on it? White colonisers being capitalist motivated in order to exploit the wealth and labour of the non whites they colonise has been the driving narrative of history since WW2 and earlier.
The problem is that you actually cause more harm with this, considering people that didn't pay attention in school will think it's true. History is filled with everybody conquering each other. It was normal.
Technically multiple empires throughout history have oppressed other peoples.
The show is quite good, but you should stop watching it. I don’t think you’ll be able to handle it because you’re a massive fricking pussy.
This. Whites need to get the frick over it and learn to accept their place.
>slopflix
The people that treat her poorly for being mixed race are shown as being in the wrong and all her allies tell her to stop being self loathing. Maybe stop plotzing over culture war bullshit and just enjoy the show.
>Japan needs to lets its women be raped by foreigners
>Its okay to kill white people
Nice struggle session bro
The bad guys are Japs that collaborate with the foreigners and sell out their country.
>Evil white people corrupt nation
>Only a bipoc woman can save everyone
>Japan needs to let in more non-white foreigners
Modern writing at work. I'd like to see this plotline done in a white country where black people were invading.
The Irish weren't considered white in the era the show is set in. She also explicitly says she isn't trying to save anyone and doesn't. Her actions kill countless people and burn down Kyoto.
>Irish people aren't white
Given what's happening in that country RIGHT NOW, that just makes this even worse. Was the writer of this Japanese? I mean both ethnically and nationally? If not, then its clear what the message is here.
>Bipoc woman is the hero and gets to mass murder people and destroy a whole city
I didn't see the show but the way you describe it is just bad. Do they at least kill her off in the end? You know, vengeance begets vengeance?
No one calls her a hero and she isn't portrayed as one. Everyone thinks she's a crazy selfish butthole.
So she doesn't die in the end? She gets away with everything. Does she at least lose a limb? FYI, Cinemaphile does have spoiler tags if you don't want to spoil it for everyone.
Reminds me of the "Miss Japan" they were touting as being "Ukrainian" only for people to look up her history and find out she was israeli...And a prostitute who slept with one of the former judges of the pageant.
She’s a flawed antihero you nonce. Her actions are rarely, if ever, depicted as positive and most of the “good” characters do not agree with her despite sometimes temporarily allying with her. It’s likely that her big arc will be coming to terms with the error of her ways.
The people who complain about the “strong woman can’t do wrong” trope in BES either haven’t watched it, are complete morons, or bad faith /misc/tards trying to stir up culture-war shit.
>haven't watched it
I have not watched it. And based on the responses I'm getting, I have no intention of seeing it.
I'm not interested in another Rey Skywalker or Captain Marvel.
Now does this blue eyed b***h die in the end? Does she at least lose a limb? Is she punished in any real way for her selfishness? If not, then frick off with this.
If what you’re getting from the responses is that she’s another Rey Skywalker, then school has failed to teach you basic reading comprehension.
Nothing says picsrell like
Good job confirming the bipoc written by a israelite and his bipoc wife won't suffer any consequences for her actions.
>can’t read good so everyone must be shill
> Now does this blue eyed b***h die in the end?
Yes. They kill off the main character at the end of the first season.
>Was the writer of this Japanese? I mean both ethnically and nationally?
husband and wife duo, Amber Noizumi and Michael Green, director is chinese american Jane Wu
>written by japanese woman
>directed by chinese woman
>produced by a israeli man
no wonder you insular little fricks hate it, despite a mature well-animated show for adults being the thing you all have begged and pleaded for for years being given to you on a silver platter
So the Irish aren’t considered white in this show where the only Irish guy gets called white and grouped in with whites multiple times
Sounds like you’re trying to use historical accuracy in some instances, but ignoring it in others. Nothing in the show has being Irish depicted as meaningfully not being white or it mattering to the Japanese in some distinction
literally every single point here is opposite to what the show does lmao
watch the fricking show you idiot
jesus christ you guys need shit explained in the first 10 minutes or you freak out like a ADHD 8 year old
they're there to act as trade liaisons, they secure trade under the table
several times people say she's dishonorable and she replies that she doesn't give a shit because her goal is to kill 4 people and fulfill the promise she made at her mother's grave
Given what is said here
either you are lying or he is.
Just because white colonialism is accurately depicted it doesn’t mean the show is anti white.
>White Colonialism
>Irish people aren't white
Top kek
That is exactly what it means. Any time a white person is shown in the negative it's considered anti-white.
Japan was never colonised
Lmao Japan was one of the few countries not colonised. Is this being revised for history now?
No. Anon is a moron and Blue Eye Samurai is not a documentary. Why this would need to be said is beyond me.
This. Just because we are fixing history to reflect modern day white rage and racism still affecting us, that does not devalue the meaning of the story
>they're there to act as trade liaisons, they secure trade under the table
With whom? The Shogunate? The same fricking shogunate that kicked out all the westerners and closed the country in the first place? That's dumb
It was all a trick by the evil whites. They were in power the whole time. Japanese dindu nuffin
>The Shogunate? The same fricking shogunate that kicked out all the westerners and closed the country in the first place? That's dumb
It's pointed out that he's a hypocrite since he collaborated with westerners to make himself incredibly rich
See? It’s called nuance and subtle writing, the rich shogun sold out the Japanese people to the white men
Him banishing all westerners and ordering any non Japanese who so much as wash ashore after shipwrecks to be killed on site was all a plan by the white manipulators of the shogun
Yes. Fowler actually overtly comments on that so you don’t even need to read subtext. They closed it off to all the westerners, but were greedy so they left a crack for a few westerners to do trade so the shogunate could profit. Fowler explicitly states that he exploited this crack and that their entire empire was going to fall because of their greed.
>oh noooo Japan will lose ifs precious soul selling out to evil whitey
>much better they remain a backwater that can get toppled by a single America. Warship
Why is this ‘Japanese society was peaceful, with the children eating gumdrop candy by chocolate rivers before the white man came” narrative so common? Sad wirh natives
I thought they were gonna reveal she was lied to about the white guys backgrounds and it turns out they weren’t moustache failing villains who did nothing but buy and sell slaves (no need to have a vengeance quest on the thriving internet Al Japanese slave trade thoughts I guess)
>I thought they were gonna reveal she was lied to about the white guys backgrounds and it turns out they weren’t moustache failing villains who did nothing but buy and sell slaves (no need to have a vengeance quest on the thriving internet Al Japanese slave trade thoughts I guess)
I'm holding out that the twist is going to be that Mizu's white heritage comes from her mother and the other four white men are red herrings. There's no point otherwise to reveal that the "mom" who raised Mizu in her childhood was just a servant at the end.
Loooooool. Don’t hold your breath bro. I enjoyed the show just because the action was fun, the animation was great and the interactions were comfy but the messaging felt clumsy as hell
Maybe they could only succeed getting a Netflix pitch they put race and critiquing whites at the front and center (just the gender dynamics alone seem interesting enough to me with her being Mulan on crack but I guess that would mean critiquing Japanese culture and is not good enough, more oppression points needed for that Netflix money)
What about it is clumsy?
>treats being mixed white as inherently bad
>all whites she meets are in fact evil
>those negative things in Japanese society like slavery? Actually that’s the whites influencing the shogun not really the Japanese fault
The milquetoast “imperfection is stronger” in the forging parts just also carries the connotation that being mixed race means one race is weaker
Enjoy your hapsburg chin.
>anyone who isn’t currently race mixed is inbred
American education
You’re focusing on the connotations of language, not the meaning. The same could be said about “purity”. Pure is often used as a connotation for quality with the assumption that more pure = better, but that is not always true. 100% pure alcohol vaporizes almost instantly which is bad if you want to drink it. Pure breed dogs often have health problems due to lack of genetic diversity, and breathing pure oxygen can kill you. If we assume pure = good, then one might make false blanket assumptions regarding the quality of the aforementioned examples.
>Raised entirely in Japan where being white makes you an abomination, even moreso if you're mixed race
>The only westerners who bothered traveling to an isolated Japan obviously didn't have the best of intentions
>Sex slaves were a thing before the four white men arrived, Routley and Skeffington certainly brought japanese women to England and Abijah fricked a lot of them but that issue isn't credited to them.
Why are the bad white guys English again? The Dutch were the only Japanese traders during this period, and everyone speaks English in the show anyway so that’s hardly a reason
Abijah is irish technically and Violet may or may not be french.
>Why are the bad white guys English again? The Dutch were the only Japanese traders during this period
Because of american education or lack thereof
Too many Austin Power jokes could be made.
Britishers were true enemies of world peace England but here’s and pillaged whole world. India would be superpower if Britishers had not had partitioned and caused billions of deaths in famine and conflict between Indian brothers
do not redeem
You know given that she has that nightmare of herself as fully white that might be a viable theory.
How are they wrong if the whites who managed to elude the policy of killing all non Japanese somehow ended up manipulating the shogun and Japanese people into major social problems like slavery and opium?
Just seems like they assumed modern day racial equality would somehow overpower what’s actually happening in the story. Even though this universes story vindicates those who would want the whites banished
Isn't it in the first episode there's a whole subplot about the sword being stronger because of its impurities?
They definitely drop that that early on, then make it overtly relate to MC towards the end of the season (You know, in case you missed the subtext).
So is the main character one of the “good ones”. Or is there a single white character in the show who isn’t evil and somehow manipulating all of Japan?
Otherwise surely they’re right to hate her for being part white?
All these questions and more will be answered if you watch the show instead of melting down about it on the internet.
Just watch Tsukikage Ran instead
>wypipo bad
>womyn stronk
>Main writer: Michael Green
>Wikipedia: Early life section
>"His family is israeli, and his mother is Israeli."
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
You’re conveniently leaving out that the main writers and creators are a husband and wife TEAM which includes Amber Noizumi, a mixed race part Japanese woman who was inspired to create Blue Eye samurai when she realized her daughter was part Asian but had blue eyes and was forced to examine why that idea excited her so much.
Go leave
>makes main character white rape baby who hates their white heritage
This is why OP asked if this changes otherwise who the frick cares what their claimed motives were
It’s the first season, dipshit. The self hatred is going to be a long arc. Race relations, bias, and hatred are big themes that would be pretty dumb to wrap up in a neat little bow right off the bat.
As it stands, the audience is not meant to agree with the MC, so if OP found her motives despicable, he got the fricking point.
>As it stands, the audience is not meant to agree with the MC, so if OP found her motives despicable, he got the fricking point.
It doesn't sound like that's OP's problem. Or that he got that far. It sounds like this is just more culture war gayotry.
>As it stands, the audience is not meant to agree with the MC
Reddit agrees with her and that’s their biggest fan base discussion board online
>the self hatred is going to be a long arc. Race relations, bias, and hatred
Man, I am tired of this shit. I want shows where the main characters are proud to be white or at least they are proud to have white heritage
How do they justify four white dudes having actual power and say in japans isolationist era?
Because the shogun was collaborating with them.
White colonialism overpowered the honourable Japanese soul. The whites forces slave trading and opium trading and gun trading to the Japanese and profited off them and manipulated them into endless proxy wars to keep Japan weak and reliant on the white man
It's only one white guy by the time of the show, the rest went back to London though one of them was living on his own in Japan before Mizu killed him
>having actual power
They didn't. 2 of them fricked off back to Europe, 1 died offscreen, presumably not having much power considering no one gives a shit he's dead to the point Fowler only finds out he's dead when Mizu tells him. That leaves Fowler, who was stuck in a fortress for years with only a small staff under his command to guard him and get groceries, who likely answer to Shindo above him anyway. He only has real power once the guns show up, which he promptly loses.
It would make sense if all of the four white guys were dutch and if the show took place in Nagasaki/Dejima cause that was the one speck of Japan where one type of foreigner was allowed
They’re Anglo and Irish.
The shows messages are just muddled and nonsensical. If you tried to actually apply the shit said and repeated without a second thought to any other race, you would realise how gross it is.
And it doesn’t become some season long story where the main character stops being racist. It just says racism good against oppressors at the end
There weren't any big anglo/irish players in japan at that time, that's why I said that the Dutch as villains would make more sense, especially since the VOC was all over the trade in the region at the time. But I guess asking californians to look into asian and european history is too much of an ask
It’s clear that the show is based on a fictional history for a myriad of reasons. The show is not a historical document nor does it claim to be. They use cultural elements of the setting to tell a made-up story.
Weird how they really hyped up the historical accuracy over gender dynamics but everything else is apparently 100% fair game to change. Might as well be some fantasy land at this point. Only reason it isn’t is because they want to shit on real life white Europeans, even if they aren’t actually the ones who had real trade relations with Japan at this point
>even if they aren’t actually the ones who had real trade relations with Japan at this point
well the dutch did, but only in one harbour in nagasaki
Yes, that’s my point. They completely changed the nations involved. Completely changed their actual trading status from extremely restricted to small harbour island for the Dutch the Japanese could strictly control to the some anglo/Irish being a shadow puppet ruler of Japan. It’s stupid as frick
>They completely changed the nations involved. Completely changed their actual trading status from extremely restricted to small harbour island for the Dutch the Japanese could strictly control to the some anglo/Irish being a shadow puppet ruler of Japan. It’s stupid as frick
Because it was unofficial and deliberately swept under the rug, Abijah wasn't acting on the behalf of a nation. He was just an opportunist who made a secret deal with the Shogunite so they could benefit from one another. My guess is the four white guys were criminals looking to enterprise, which is why they had so many connections back at England despite never saying or acting like they were doing it for the empire.
>He was just an opportunist who made a secret deal with the Shogunite so they could benefit from one another.
that's the thing that doesn't make sense tho, the Shogunate specifically closed the country to avoid any type of foreign influence, so that the shogun could consolidate power without outside religions, trade and other shit fricking his reign, the dutch at Dejima were the only foreign traders allowed and even then they were extremely restricted
It was under the books, it's not like Catholicism suddenly popped up in Japan. The Shogunite's increasing wealth was credited to himself, the part about him secretly profiting off Abijah's activities was obviously not something everyone knew or were supposed to. And that was the point, to make it seem like Japan was faring better from the isolation.
>you cannot borrow aspects of history to tell your story. You have to take everything.
Okay, autismo
This shit is why we end up with slop like THE WOMAN KING. the powerful story of how the 1820’s African of Dahomey fought off the French empire. Ignoring the fact the French were trying to stop the African kingdom from continuing the slave trade and the Africans were fighting the whites to keep the slave trade going
The film even has a funny scene where they act like they’re going to end slavery themselves soon in favour of… farming palm oil… yeah, never happened. They kept the slave trade as their primary economic system until the Europeans made them stop
Interesting how every time history is altered in these things it’s just to shit on whites. Just stop noticing the patterns man. It’s only entertainment with no agenda
> Interesting how every time history is altered in these things it’s just to shit on whites
You probably don’t want to pull that argumentative thread too hard. It won’t hold up.
not to forget that the french absolutely wrecked them even in hand to hand combat
>The Dahomey lost 86 regulars and 417 Dahomey Mino, with nearly all of those deaths being inflicted by bayonets
>the French lost six soldiers
HON HON HON
Imagine being one of the 6 that died.
Whaaaat? But the powerful Black woman warriors of the Dahomey destroyed the white devils in the movie? And it was premiering in black history month?
This must be some mistake. Somebody is lying about POC history on Wikipedia to downplay our achievements
Was Blue Eye Samurai about how the japanese fought off the British Empire?
It’s an American creative team, you really expect them to give a frick about history? Only Anglos colonised. Also Japan was peaceful before the Anglos fricked it up
>And it doesn’t become some season long story where the main character stops being racist. It just says racism good against oppressors at the end
Because the main character has only ever met two white people so far, one of which sold drugs and the other was a monstrous degenerate
> It just says racism good against oppressors at the end
Yes. That is how the story ends. There is no more story to tell. Mizo sails her boat off to a happily ever after. The end.
Abijah is irish, Violet may be french considering the name origin, Skeffington could be irish too, and Routley is british.
Good on this one dude trying to handhold your stupid fricking asses through this show's plot but it's obvious 99% of this board is too fricking moronic for anything more complex than an episode of Bluey.
Unironically I could give less of a shit about the racebait or anything else. I didn't really like the show because the fight choreography was full of pastiches to other samurai movies/anime but the execution was only sometimes good and other times pretty bad. Not everything that works in LA works in animation and vice versa.
The teeth-based fight scene in the very first episode is a pastiche based on what movies?
>microaggressions
I can't anyone who says shit like this unironically, serious
>says She survived Drumpfs America. So She knows how evil the whites can be
>is filled with rage and ashamed of her blue eyed baby
>it’s not woke though guys
Wu doesn’t have a blue eye baby, Amber Noizumi does.
Nobody ever said her baby filled her with rage or shame.
Go back.
Kek. American woman living in the best conditions she could imagine acting like she understands how women from the past felt.
lol dropped
Y’all are confused, the show cannot be “racist” towards where people because where people cannot experience racism. See pic related as good reasoning why.
Only Asian masculinity incels and white racists are actually crying over this show, everyone else appreciates the artistry
>uses random Reddit thread to support bad sarcastic rhetoric
Anon…
>ignores academic source
Chuddy…
>academic source
It’s a random opinion article written by a random unaccredited person on a website that publishes literally anything. It’s telling that you think this is what an “academic source” is.
>show set in 17th century Japan
>person using a definition invented by Marxists in the 19th century west to exclude white people as victims of racism
Why are anti white racists so brain rotten.
Why are you using a random Reddit conversation as if it is any sort of authority on anything?
How else are you gonna get mad?
I shouldn’t be surprised. The same person seems to think that an opinion article on a random website is an “academic source”.
We need to funnel more money into education. People are becoming increasingly more moronic.
I like how they got the guy who directed the Artemis Fowl movie to voice Abijah Flower, just to really let you know that he's evil
> Reducing renowned Shakespearean actor Kenneth Branagh to the contributions he made to Artemis Fowl.
I think it's funny to refer to famous people by the lamest thing they worked on. I only acknowledge Steven Spielberg as being the director of Boom Blox.
he and the gay weaselly man were definitely fricking, weren't they
Maybe. Fowler does frick a man who is fricking a woman right before he kills him.
>Irishman as a villain
Why? What the frick did they ever do besides being oppressed by the english?
>Why? What the frick did they ever do besides being oppressed by the english?
That was the point. It's the cycle of abuse but with violent colonization.
homie, the Irish were a major willing part of the British empire.
Irish history didn’t start after independence, believe it or not the American Irish diaspora are not the true sages of Irish history
Good God. The amount of people who genuinely try to scapegoat England as being the only driving force behind the empire is laughable. I guess it’s a simpler narrative for children’s stories but that’s not how it worked in real life.
>homie, the Irish were a major willing part of the British empire.
>major willing part
senpai, they were literally conquered and over time assimilated but never fully, the various versions of the IRA didn't spring up from nowhere. Frick, the country is still split
>senpai, they were literally conquered and over time assimilated but never fully, the various versions of the IRA didn't spring up from nowhere. Frick, the country is still split
Yes, and the English had multiple rebellions too. While the Irish fought FOR the English monarch in the civil war
History isn’t the black and white American slop you think it is, where big bad England conquered everyone and forced them to be pro empire.
The combat started off strong but the last two episodes the fights are so elongated, where the enemy constantly is supposed to look threatening, but never actually attacks the good guys
Whereas the standard was already set that combat occurs very fast—you just attack and kill somebody within seconds. Now suddenly everybody is standing menacingly over them for 5 seconds, seemingly prepared to wait forever in this position
>White People Bad: The Series #644,963
It's all so fricking tiresome but not surprising for a israeliteflix series.
Anon, like 80% of bad guys in media are white or white-coded.
Your inability to comprehend the most basic of storytelling nuance should be a source of embarrassment.
No it's every fricking series that is obsessed with race that constantly vilifies Whites. It has nothing to do with story nuance you fricking moron. It's "let's blame all White people currently living for past injustices that happened centuries ago for shit they weren't responsible for." When will you realize that any notion of a civil rights movement was never about equality but revenge?
Nobody is blaming you for shit that happened hundreds of years ago. You're correlating the fact that you're a douchebag and being judged on your present behavior with a different conversation entirely.
The only people that care if their forefathers are called bastards are those that have frick all going on for themselves.
>Nobody is blaming you for shit that happened hundreds of years ago
The entire notion of critical race theory is based on this. You know, the thing widely pushed to be taught in schools to children
>Show is a historical revisionist propaganda piece
It's the Woman King all over again.
I'm sorry you were born white, I guess? It's a pretty good show.
I don't dislike the series but it's funny when you think about it..
>recent western series about japan is all about race and shit like that
>look at a recent japanese manga, it has nothing to do with race
It's not like BES actually properly explored the race stuff so it feels weird that it's there. Maybe the next season should explain it or something? Also the last 2 episodes felt a scene from a video game considering how contrived and asspullish the action was.
>look at a recent japanese manga, it has nothing to do with race
The frick are you talking about? One of the conflicts in the latest arc of JJK was the inherent supernatural energy exclusive in Japanese people, incentivizing other world governments to besiege the country to start capturing sorcerers for experimentation and as a potential energy source battery.
I mistyped it. Look at a recent manga about foreigners living in japan is what I meant to say.
Unironically was it that hard for the apparently "half japanese" write to do some research on japanese food, architecture, traditions etc. She got a lot of shit wrong.
It doesn’t matter, it’s not a real place it’s a fantasy show chud
>it’s not a real place
Japan is, in fact, a real place
It’s fictional Japan chudcel, did you think dragon ball was real too?
You are not immune to propaganda. You are not a victim. Grow the frick up and stop pretending whites are victims. You’re just losing a tiny bit of privilege
>It’s fictional Japan chudcel, did you think dragon ball was real too?
No, but Dragon Ball was neither set in Japan nor did it try to show cultural and historical issues of Japan while completely making other shit involved with those issues up to fit a modern agenda
>did you think dragon ball was real too?
Dragon ball literally happened in real life you troonycell. Why do you think we have statues in honor of Goku and his jobber friends?
see here
>Cinemaphile deepthroats obvious bait again
So to be clear
>creators keep emphasising their real life connections to this place and time
>but we should not care about it being set in this place and time
>it’s important to show the cultural and historical issues of Japan according to the writers
>but it’s 100% cool to make up fictional foreigners as being the source of these issues
Huh?
Just feels gross to me. Gonna skip this one
>creators keep emphasising their real life connections to this place and time
Half of the asian people involved are either korean-american or chinese-american so they don't even have that connection
They’re American Asians multiple generations in so they form an amalgous blob disconnected from whatever their original culture is. Just some shared “lol, ain’t Asian mothers harsh” jokes.
Which is funny because actual Asians all fricking hate each other still. Japanese and Chinese, Koreans and Japanese and Chinese.
You're stretching to feel offended and victimized, the show emphasizes the racism and xenophobia of Japan since that is literally one of the core themes of the story. Every major character is an outcast in some form or another, Mizu just takes the brunt of it because of her distinctive features.
But obviously there will be anachronisms since the show isn't meant to be a super realistic historical retelling of Japan. It's ultimately an action show where samurai can fight each other while jumping off cliffs and the main villain chops an entire table in half with a katana. It's like ASOIAF/GOT, it takes certain elements from medieval europe and is "realistic" in the sense that it's grounded and there's lots of violence and sex but that doesn't make it a documentary.
its no less realistic than kurosawa movies, which are set in japan explicitly as well, but also take huge artistic liberty with both history and physics
I mean come one. Maybe you could excuse how unrealistic the gate scenes were but the stupidity of the characters and the plot armor was a bit too much.
It doesn't get better. It's downhill from there.
good to know it is slop
I shall now ignore it
Didn't this show manage to get a glowing review from outrage grifters like Critical Drinker?
Drinker isn't an outrage grifter, he just hates wokeshit but saying this show is good obviously means he's susceptible to mistakes.
Didn't Drinker praise Sound of Freedom and say if you don't support the movie by buying tickets, that makes you a pedophile?
California was a mistake
Wasn't this animated by a french company?
Yeah, but they didn't write the story
I liked that she spared the guy who gave her back her sword.
Plot-twist: her real father will turn out to be a genuinely sweet, albeit ridiculously naive, man.
I'm sure one of the white men back at London are going to turn out to be nice or atoning for their past but I'm also sure there's going to be a double twist that Mizu's white parent isn't any of them and it's actually her mom.
THAT is the final twist. Her mother is white, not her father. Very likely a rich woman, ensuring our protagonist doesn't die in poverty by show's end.
This would be a moronic twist because why wouldn’t she know this? It also makes no thematic difference unless the Japanese guy raped her, and is even more ludicrous because why the frick is a white woman travelling to Japan at all in this era and scenario?
>and is even more ludicrous because why the frick is a white woman travelling to Japan at all in this era and scenario?
for the same reason the shogunate is controlled by a white anglo shadow goverment
Yeah, I guess it’s not like they can get any more ridiculous. Is there really nothing in season 1 showing her mother as being Japanese or being directly referred to as such though? The kids bullying her seemed pretty open about knowing she was the product of a prostitute jap woman and some white foreigner
If it was the other way around surely people would know
Unless the whole thing was covered up because it's a HUGE scandal.
It's a member of the British royalty. Like second-in-line to the higher levels of government.
And yes, that means she'll have a LOT of people trying to kill her to keep that secret. Like serious, deceptively calm assassins.
> Is there really nothing in season 1 showing her mother as being Japanese or being directly referred to as such though? The kids bullying her seemed pretty open about knowing she was the product of a prostitute jap woman and some white foreigner
The twist at the end reveals that the japanese woman who raised Mizu as her daughter was just a maid who happened to be given the responsibility by her rescuer. There's no point to that reveal if it isn't going to turn out that her real mom isn't notable or significant in some way and Abijah implies there was a lot more going on in the past behind the scenes.
As for the thematic purpose? Probably will lead to Mizu accepting her white heritage, she currently views it as a curse because of how she was raised in Japan and every white person she's met so far are horrible human beings so if turns out to be like her mom and she's actually kind or a victim then that could change how she views herself.
Her mom is a British royal. The entire monarchy is trying to shut this scandal down. By blood, Mizu is tied to the British monarchy.
That's completely unacceptable to the British government, and they'd like nothing better than to bury Mizu.
It's also why they deliberately tried to spread the rumor Mizu's father was white, attempting to hide the scandal.
Pretty sure this would be a good excuse to try and put a British person on the Japanese throne or get them in the nobility to open up trade without needing to go full commodore Perry.
Mizu finds herself in the middle of political machinations. Some British are trying to ensure Mizu's secret DOES come out for that reason, while others are trying to kill her.
The royal in question is just trying to keep Mizu alive, but her lack of experience and influence handicaps how much help she can send her.
Put simply, it's a nice way to keep the story going for a number of seasons. Mizu doesn't want any of this shit, all these assassins are just in her way.
What she wants is the truth, no matter who tries to keep it from her. And of course a whole new can of worms opens up when she finds out her mother is ROYALTY.
>yfw her whiteness comes from her mother and her father is japanese
What’s the deal with the guy with no fingers/stub hands? Seems like a congenital deformity
In Japan, they killed babies like that by just leaving them in the woods to die up to and even after the Meiji reformation
Is this just a pro disability character to look woke or is there some purpose here? It’s hard to get around how dumb the idea
>damn… we are both outcasts too!
Could have used a more realistic or relatable one like the Burakumin. This dude somehow worked and ate enough to become a giant when he has no functional hands. And has a bag of specialised tools to use with his stub arms somehow in a world where even buying a decent knife was expensive. Metal is very valuable in general in Japan remember, let alone small artisan pieces.
Even post WW2 you can find stories of people rushing into the sites of burned down houses to try and search for nails from their wooden houses because iron was so valuable
I don't think that was official policy, Ringo was stuck working a dead end serving job in a backwater tavern which is an occupation that would track for someone crippled like him
Ringo was born without hands, but from what we’ve seen and heard it kinda seems like his dad was an abusive dickbag who liked having somebody to kick around. We also don’t see any other sons or even a wife helping out at the noodle shop, so he probably took what he could get. He DID canonically abandon Ringo in the woods when he was seven, but a group of wild tanuki saved him and then he just walked back home.
Also I don’t recall much about Ringo’s toolkit, but it seemed like the most specialized thing was just a funny belt for his wrist. He has regular knives, chopsticks, and a sewing needle.
>Everyone hates her for being a half breed and calls her a monster, round eye dog etc
Yeah seems accurate
>killed all non Japanese who washed ashore in this period
During the Edo period? Hardly, while isolationist they still traded with the Portuguese
Yes, during the Edo period. Look it up. The only European trade was with a small Dutch enclave
This only changed after 1853
Sure isolationist but not to the point where they killed sailors who washed up on shores. The one time they did it it bit them in the ass
>Hardly, while isolationist they still traded with the Portuguese
they were all relegated to the artificial island of dejima, so all traders wouldnt technically be on japanese soil and more importantly would limit contact with outsiders
portugese were allowed earlier, but were later excluded, leaving mostly dutch
Then the portuguese stablished a small colony in Nagasaki then the dutch aid the japanese killing them
All I want from season two are some samurai vs knight duels and Taigen getting gaslit into thinking he's gay because he's becoming attracted to Mizu even before finding out she's a girl
>All I want from season two are some samurai vs knight duel
knights had long since lost their military role by the 1600s
the english had instituted the new model army by then, so a standing army composed of professionals rather than knights and levies who fought on a complex system of obligations
so the closest equivalent to a samurai by then would be a gentleman officer who is equally skilled at utilizing his sabre as he is at strategy and table manners
Closest we'd get to a Knight is a hardcore British guy who always wanted to fight a Samurai, clad in European armor in the process.
>tfw I don't care about "muh politics" I just think it's a boring as frick action show.
Almost like an exercise in what would happen if you sucked out any and all fun out of Afro Samurai.
>i.e. what would happen if Samuel L Jackson is not in your show
Afro Samurai could only be considered good of it was just a dream sequence in Riley's head in the Boondocks.
And this trash can't be considered good at all.
Can you endure the following:
>The main character having huge plot armor and being able to heal any wound?
>No criticism of Japan's problems or how deeply flawed Mizu's revenge is?
>A plot about a woman trying to kill 4 white men because one might be her father and making no attempt to determine which of these 3 men is innocent?
If the answer is no then drop this show.
>The main character having huge plot armor and being able to heal any wound?
She gets her ass kick multiple times and spends an episode or two recovering twice?
>No criticism of how deeply flawed Mizu's revenge is?
She loses Ringo and Akemi precisely because she put her quest first instead of helping the latter though?
>A plot about a woman trying to kill 4 white men because one might be her father and making no attempt to determine which of these 3 men is innocent?
Why would she think they would be innocent? Considering that she was raised in a culture and land that considers white people to be demons and the two white men she's met are bad and monstrously fricked up people?
>I'm OFFENDED
So just don't watch it. Don't come here and b***h about it like a whiny fricking baby.
Boy you're one dense motherfricker OP