>Magnus killed his wife 1 year into their marriage >program a nanitebot in her image >program her to lust for Batman like she used to when she was alive
What was his fricking problem?
I'm guessing a weird mental break where he hated her for what she did, but loved her too much to want to tamper with her personality in any significant way, minus the killbot status.
Only part that seemed undercooked. Darkseid should remain the bastard double-crosser in all realities. Plus, if there never was an exchange of baby Orion and Mr. Miracle, neither of them should look like that, and Barda should be in Apokolips. Besides, that open neck looks like Darkseid is wearing a wifebeater.
Maybe because I'm brazilian but I like this version of superman much better than the original. I do understand the entire point of Clark not wanting to be ultra violent with his powers is so he can become a symbol and inspire people to be better, but there are limits for this shit as there are to anything, at some point you just become complaint with others crimes if you have the power to stop it but decide to do not because it would go against personal issues.
Zodman knows that the US government is full of shit and doesn't take it, he goes toe to toe with it and still is a hero no matter what. if anything he is the true hero for what he sacrifices in name of saving people, specially with the scene with brainiac.
You’d like Golden Age Superman/Grant Morrison’s Action Comics run, Clark doesn’t take shit from the government and isn’t afraid to put someone in their place if they’re hurting the common folk.
It’s a Superman who would teach (insert 1% shithead) a lesson
> at some point you just become complacent with others crimes if you have the power to stop it but decide not to because it would go against your personal beliefs
Congratulations on having the most valid take i've seen today. Your point harkens back to how I feel about the trolley problem: if you have the power to pull the lever and make one person die instead of three, choosing NOT to do so is you actively choosing to condemn the three to death to preserve some perceived moral standing of yours. You have the power whether you want it or not, whether it is fair or not, and the only thing you can do is act. Acting to protect people, or acting to protect your ego and your image, self-image or otherwise.
When Superman refuses to kill a dangerous villain, that's fine. He makes that choice. But when that villain openly admits he'll try to kill again, Superman needs to understand that if and when that villain escapes or returns or what have you, anyone he kills is just as much on Superman's hands as the villain's hands.
If I came up to you and said "hey! Tomorrow, I'm going to go to the park and rape that kid over there." and you looked at the situation and said "well, you might not." and did nothing, told noone, said nothing, then when I went to the park tomorrow and raped that kid, you kind of have to take some responsibility.
Batman and Superman would both claim to be willing to jump on a grenade if it would save people, but putting their image on the line? Apparently that's too much.
>When Superman refuses to kill a dangerous villain, that's fine. He makes that choice. But when that villain openly admits he'll try to kill again, Superman needs to understand that if and when that villain escapes or returns or what have you, anyone he kills is just as much on Superman's hands as the villain's hands.
We unironically get seething, malding cope denial of this point Superman vs. The Elite. There's a radioactive villain who just keeps breaking out of Black Gate and killing and causing damage. I think the first time we see him he's broken out, then Superman stops him twice, and then finally the Elite stop the fricker after the villain murders a pro-Superman black father who believed in the moral superiority of Superman.
And there are anons on this very fricking board who will fricking die on the hill that Superman vs. the Elite proves that superheroes should not kill.
tbf in these cape worlds the fictional government takes a ton of responsibility too but they're more silent or backgrounded so the very structure of a world escapes a lot of scrutiny in the suspension of disbelief discussions. It often acts as this big lazy do-nothing sloth government consuming taxpayer money and somehow acts more irresponsibly with the most murderous and dangerous criminals in prison than the actual irl government, which is a feat, since the latter does execute the ones sentenced to death
One of the things the story does that is more unique by today's standards is starting seeming like it's going to be grimdark but actually ending on an optimistic note and the actually grow and become less brutal, while still maintaining their edge ofc. It wasn't another Injustice or The Boys. Although the Injustice animated movie had a slightly more upbeat ending than the game weirdly enough.
That. That moment right there. That tears my fricking heart out. Because he feels like a monster, and he was expecting her to give him some kind of 'you can be better' spiel, and instead she tells him he doesn't NEED to be better. That he's good enough as he already is. That... where's that frickin' Stan Pines meme.
"Oh, now that... that's art."
He's such an underrated Superman. Pretty criminal they haven't done more with him or created a version that's similar. I'd prefer a movie about this Superman over the Val-Zod version.
Honestly if they made him the superman of an actual big-budget superman movie, i'd be down. They'd absolutely frick it up, but I can dream about how it might be if they didn't.
I feel like he could be really popular if done right but at the same time there'd be backlash because of politics and culture war crap. But even if they don't revisit that specific Superman some writer might come up with a similar idea about a South American Supes and I'd be happy with that too if it was done right.
I like when they play around with Superman's characterization a little bit. Like he's still good at his core but different circumstances have instilled him with different values and beliefs that he has to embrace or reject as he develops in order to grow into the hero we're more familiar with. The Elseworlds comic where he was basically Michael Jordan was interesting.
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that is a fricking hilarious take on superman. What an awful haircut. What a great absurd person he is there.
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It's a pretty bizarre story but again it kind of follows that same blueprint as Gods & Monsters where Superman starts out barely recognizable and by the end he's a little closer to what we'd expect.
This basic general understanding of what men, even the men who wish they could be totally pure and good, sometimes have to do when the real stakes of innocent lives are in danger is why several cowboy westerns had the attention they did in the past. Sometimes the hero even couldn't return and stay home afterwards at the ending despite their service to protect.
Strange that this little lesser known DC side story that isn't that old has better understanding compared to a lot of the current general entertainment media of why a man can struggle with finding proper balance in this way when facing real evil or real threats
Part of it is being an elseworlds story that was expressed primarily in an animated dtv. The branch that spawned off from the main thing gets more freedom to explore and establish a totally different history, tone, and attitude to see where that path manages to go. Superhombre was one of the most likable and engaging elseworlds characters in enjoyment-per-minute to ever come out of DC, despite only having that short comic and the one dtv.
>The main three characters aren't just darker versions of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, but are all existing characters in the main DCU
I'm kinda curious, what would the other Leaguers be then? I'm guessing GL would just be substituted with a different Lantern Corps? Flash could also just be Eobard coming back from the past to be a hero sorta like Booster Gold
it really is the best DC idea in the modern era, and it was completely wasted. God what I wouldn't do to see these guys pull a Captain Carter and come back in some new form as like, unlockable characters in a DC game or something, like if they had been unlockable costumes with voices in Gods Among Us.
The only way they could probably get a sequel now is to do a Crisis on Two Earths type story where the Gods and Monsters trinity meet the DCAU trinity. The cover art hints at that but it's sort of false advertising.
oh, i hadn't picked up on that. You're right, the cover does sort of imply a 'two worlds collide' schtick with the original trio in the background and literally two worlds being destroyed, that really does kind of seem like false advertising. I never noticed because i was too busy looking at a somehow even more frickable version of both superman and wonder woman, and a somehow less frickable version of batman.
They probably included that on the cover art to make it more marketable but it does send the wrong message since it has nothing to do with the regular DCAU. Although some of the designs like Highfather and Darkseid are the same so I think it could be considered part of the DCAU's own multiverse. But then it was a huge missed opportunity not to include Gods & Monsters in the recent Justice League Infinity comic which delved into the DCAUs multiverse.
The Batman who shows up in the comic wearing the silver and blue is wheelchair bound from being paralyzed by the Joker so he ticks the disabled box for Earth-D (diversity). My guess is they made a mistake with the cover or didn't want to have him sitting down.
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I found it amusing that they made the Whirly-Bat into his wheelchair.
oh, i hadn't picked up on that. You're right, the cover does sort of imply a 'two worlds collide' schtick with the original trio in the background and literally two worlds being destroyed, that really does kind of seem like false advertising. I never noticed because i was too busy looking at a somehow even more frickable version of both superman and wonder woman, and a somehow less frickable version of batman.
Oh I didn't say 'unfrickable', he's still frickable, I can enjoy a goth twink. I just mean the other two are upgrades and he's a minor downgrade. It just means they're 11/11/7.5, that's still pretty good. I'd let that wonder woman tear me in half.
i love that take. Luthor's character has always been built off of resentment of superman, and giving him terrible, terminal cancer can only serve to amplify that resentment while making him complex and sympathetic
Zod legit cucked Jor-El on screen
And it was recorded for posterity.
And sired Superhombre. Wild movie.
>Magnus killed his wife 1 year into their marriage
>program a nanitebot in her image
>program her to lust for Batman like she used to when she was alive
What was his fricking problem?
I'm guessing a weird mental break where he hated her for what she did, but loved her too much to want to tamper with her personality in any significant way, minus the killbot status.
>What was his fricking problem?
Jealousy
I always found it funny that Zod jr landing in Mexico some how made him look like Mexican
>Zod's son
>looks like a Conquistador
Pottery.
>Hernan Guerra
>Hernan Cortes
oh shit, how did I not see it?
Better than the movie.
What the, I've never seen this.
They did shorts and a tie-in comic back when it came out. I remember liking the comic but that was years ago.
Neat. Now I'm really bummed they never did anything more with this universe.
happiness
Highfather is a mega-homosexual
Only part that seemed undercooked. Darkseid should remain the bastard double-crosser in all realities. Plus, if there never was an exchange of baby Orion and Mr. Miracle, neither of them should look like that, and Barda should be in Apokolips. Besides, that open neck looks like Darkseid is wearing a wifebeater.
Maybe because I'm brazilian but I like this version of superman much better than the original. I do understand the entire point of Clark not wanting to be ultra violent with his powers is so he can become a symbol and inspire people to be better, but there are limits for this shit as there are to anything, at some point you just become complaint with others crimes if you have the power to stop it but decide to do not because it would go against personal issues.
Zodman knows that the US government is full of shit and doesn't take it, he goes toe to toe with it and still is a hero no matter what. if anything he is the true hero for what he sacrifices in name of saving people, specially with the scene with brainiac.
You’d like Golden Age Superman/Grant Morrison’s Action Comics run, Clark doesn’t take shit from the government and isn’t afraid to put someone in their place if they’re hurting the common folk.
It’s a Superman who would teach (insert 1% shithead) a lesson
> at some point you just become complacent with others crimes if you have the power to stop it but decide not to because it would go against your personal beliefs
Congratulations on having the most valid take i've seen today. Your point harkens back to how I feel about the trolley problem: if you have the power to pull the lever and make one person die instead of three, choosing NOT to do so is you actively choosing to condemn the three to death to preserve some perceived moral standing of yours. You have the power whether you want it or not, whether it is fair or not, and the only thing you can do is act. Acting to protect people, or acting to protect your ego and your image, self-image or otherwise.
When Superman refuses to kill a dangerous villain, that's fine. He makes that choice. But when that villain openly admits he'll try to kill again, Superman needs to understand that if and when that villain escapes or returns or what have you, anyone he kills is just as much on Superman's hands as the villain's hands.
If I came up to you and said "hey! Tomorrow, I'm going to go to the park and rape that kid over there." and you looked at the situation and said "well, you might not." and did nothing, told noone, said nothing, then when I went to the park tomorrow and raped that kid, you kind of have to take some responsibility.
Batman and Superman would both claim to be willing to jump on a grenade if it would save people, but putting their image on the line? Apparently that's too much.
>When Superman refuses to kill a dangerous villain, that's fine. He makes that choice. But when that villain openly admits he'll try to kill again, Superman needs to understand that if and when that villain escapes or returns or what have you, anyone he kills is just as much on Superman's hands as the villain's hands.
We unironically get seething, malding cope denial of this point Superman vs. The Elite. There's a radioactive villain who just keeps breaking out of Black Gate and killing and causing damage. I think the first time we see him he's broken out, then Superman stops him twice, and then finally the Elite stop the fricker after the villain murders a pro-Superman black father who believed in the moral superiority of Superman.
And there are anons on this very fricking board who will fricking die on the hill that Superman vs. the Elite proves that superheroes should not kill.
tbf in these cape worlds the fictional government takes a ton of responsibility too but they're more silent or backgrounded so the very structure of a world escapes a lot of scrutiny in the suspension of disbelief discussions. It often acts as this big lazy do-nothing sloth government consuming taxpayer money and somehow acts more irresponsibly with the most murderous and dangerous criminals in prison than the actual irl government, which is a feat, since the latter does execute the ones sentenced to death
One of the things the story does that is more unique by today's standards is starting seeming like it's going to be grimdark but actually ending on an optimistic note and the actually grow and become less brutal, while still maintaining their edge ofc. It wasn't another Injustice or The Boys. Although the Injustice animated movie had a slightly more upbeat ending than the game weirdly enough.
That. That moment right there. That tears my fricking heart out. Because he feels like a monster, and he was expecting her to give him some kind of 'you can be better' spiel, and instead she tells him he doesn't NEED to be better. That he's good enough as he already is. That... where's that frickin' Stan Pines meme.
"Oh, now that... that's art."
He's such an underrated Superman. Pretty criminal they haven't done more with him or created a version that's similar. I'd prefer a movie about this Superman over the Val-Zod version.
Honestly if they made him the superman of an actual big-budget superman movie, i'd be down. They'd absolutely frick it up, but I can dream about how it might be if they didn't.
I feel like he could be really popular if done right but at the same time there'd be backlash because of politics and culture war crap. But even if they don't revisit that specific Superman some writer might come up with a similar idea about a South American Supes and I'd be happy with that too if it was done right.
I like when they play around with Superman's characterization a little bit. Like he's still good at his core but different circumstances have instilled him with different values and beliefs that he has to embrace or reject as he develops in order to grow into the hero we're more familiar with. The Elseworlds comic where he was basically Michael Jordan was interesting.
that is a fricking hilarious take on superman. What an awful haircut. What a great absurd person he is there.
It's a pretty bizarre story but again it kind of follows that same blueprint as Gods & Monsters where Superman starts out barely recognizable and by the end he's a little closer to what we'd expect.
This basic general understanding of what men, even the men who wish they could be totally pure and good, sometimes have to do when the real stakes of innocent lives are in danger is why several cowboy westerns had the attention they did in the past. Sometimes the hero even couldn't return and stay home afterwards at the ending despite their service to protect.
Strange that this little lesser known DC side story that isn't that old has better understanding compared to a lot of the current general entertainment media of why a man can struggle with finding proper balance in this way when facing real evil or real threats
Part of it is being an elseworlds story that was expressed primarily in an animated dtv. The branch that spawned off from the main thing gets more freedom to explore and establish a totally different history, tone, and attitude to see where that path manages to go. Superhombre was one of the most likable and engaging elseworlds characters in enjoyment-per-minute to ever come out of DC, despite only having that short comic and the one dtv.
"dark" superman done right
Batman sounded really sex here.
Voiced by Dexter himself.
How did they get away with it?
Being in the DCAU style makes the violence somehow more shocking.
>The main three characters aren't just darker versions of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman, but are all existing characters in the main DCU
I'm kinda curious, what would the other Leaguers be then? I'm guessing GL would just be substituted with a different Lantern Corps? Flash could also just be Eobard coming back from the past to be a hero sorta like Booster Gold
>sequel never
feelsbad.bmp
We're in the wrong timeline ;_;
>deprived us of delicious brown sugar
I'm a huge fricking sucker for Timm's style, goddammit. His shit works perfectly for comics and translates so well for animated series.
I'm guess those are the ideas for Martian Manhunter & Shazam but who's the middle supposed to be?
I'd say that's a Green Lantern, not the Manhunter.
is that steel as commander steel?
Last good thing Timm ever did
Penultimate.
Same
A same it flopped, it's a stillborn franchise. I quite liked the take on the iconic supes and the leaked plan for the sequel looked interesting.
it really is the best DC idea in the modern era, and it was completely wasted. God what I wouldn't do to see these guys pull a Captain Carter and come back in some new form as like, unlockable characters in a DC game or something, like if they had been unlockable costumes with voices in Gods Among Us.
What was the plan for the sequel?
Agreed, I loved this. Only thing that I wasn't big on was the massacre at the cabin, but overall a really cool take on DC.
The only way they could probably get a sequel now is to do a Crisis on Two Earths type story where the Gods and Monsters trinity meet the DCAU trinity. The cover art hints at that but it's sort of false advertising.
I honestly thought that was what this movie was gonna be.
They probably included that on the cover art to make it more marketable but it does send the wrong message since it has nothing to do with the regular DCAU. Although some of the designs like Highfather and Darkseid are the same so I think it could be considered part of the DCAU's own multiverse. But then it was a huge missed opportunity not to include Gods & Monsters in the recent Justice League Infinity comic which delved into the DCAUs multiverse.
source on that comic please?
Dude, come on.
> the recent Justice League Infinity comic
is it so hard to just go look up recent comics?
sorry, thought it was something from superman adventures based on the art
Writers from the animated series worked on it similar to the Batman Adventures Continue comic. It follows up on Amazo in JLU.
The comic looks good, but just imagine Dan Mora actually drawing it. Oof.
>everyone's ethnic except Batman
What did they mean by this?
The Batman who shows up in the comic wearing the silver and blue is wheelchair bound from being paralyzed by the Joker so he ticks the disabled box for Earth-D (diversity). My guess is they made a mistake with the cover or didn't want to have him sitting down.
I found it amusing that they made the Whirly-Bat into his wheelchair.
oh, i hadn't picked up on that. You're right, the cover does sort of imply a 'two worlds collide' schtick with the original trio in the background and literally two worlds being destroyed, that really does kind of seem like false advertising. I never noticed because i was too busy looking at a somehow even more frickable version of both superman and wonder woman, and a somehow less frickable version of batman.
I would frick all 3 of them.
Oh I didn't say 'unfrickable', he's still frickable, I can enjoy a goth twink. I just mean the other two are upgrades and he's a minor downgrade. It just means they're 11/11/7.5, that's still pretty good. I'd let that wonder woman tear me in half.
Who would you make the other four Bug Seven?
Thoughts on Luthor in this?
i love that take. Luthor's character has always been built off of resentment of superman, and giving him terrible, terminal cancer can only serve to amplify that resentment while making him complex and sympathetic