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So which one died for this suit, Glare or Gazer?
I'm guessing Gazer
What's your message to Beroba?
You made your own hell, girl.
Sweet but psycho
b***h should've been killed off some 10 or 20 episodes ago.
I'll miss seeing your legs.
Good fricking riddance.
>kept around for 20 episodes after being relevant just to shill a P-bandai toy she doesn't even use in her final battle
This is my message to her and multiple other characters in this damn show
Shit tier villain that stayed around for no reason
GGEZ
that whole scene was cringe as frick
Cute villain and I already miss her.
wish we got to see old granny beroba before she died
There probably isn't an old lady form of her. It seems implied they're just blank underneath whatever they choose to have the Lazer rise project as their appearance.
final villain literally called shit
the wirting is so bad since geats nein
>you said you'd be gentle, Anon...
And you said you'd stop eating
this sub is completely wrong, she's saying he's the first person to stimulate her this much (in all her life)/she's never cared this much
it was way more creepy soulmate hag lovey than a burn on michinaga up until now
Creepy soulmate hag lovey IS a burn on Michinaga, to be fair.
is that ninja buckle on jitt's side?
O
My
Jyamashin mode.
Ace clearly helped him, speedwatcher.
Yet production blog doesn't mention it. You should go work for Toei's headcanon department.
Use your brain homie. First was Shogun then Fantasy and now Buffa. Not everything has to be spelled out you know.
His desire resonance with Ace so a "miracle" happened. Even Ace's hand was turned into stone afterward.
homie, you're the fricking moron here. Bujin Sword was given to Tycoon by Tsumuri. Fantasy was pulled out of Ace's ass to give to Neon's dad. Buffa did not resonate with Ace. His hand turning to stone is purely product of him being trapped by vines.
>Bujin Sword was given to Tycoon by Tsumuri
Via wishing real hard yes. It's literally the theme of Geats endgame.
I blame this shit on bad execution tho. If the bull homie gave a heartfelt speech and got an upgrade then none will complain. But instead we get this weird one time power up that everyone hates.
It's not even about execution, it's that the "theme" you're pointing out sucks and has no actual stakes. What is the moral of the story here? Hope you meet God and that he makes all your problems go away via magic handwaving? There's legit no way to execute this show in a satisfying manner. It's just as bad as Power of Friendship shit.
Yeah, everything post IX debut is a fricking mess. Before shit was meh but now it's unsalvageable.
If Buffa isn't getting Maou in the show, why have that bit in the intro where all the Rider's base forms turn into their final form? And why have Buffa before Na-Go?
What was the intern who makes the intro thinking?
Toei/Bandai getting so sick of leaks they're just scrapping shit out of spite
I wonder if it got scrapped, or they decided to save it for a v-cinema, because it feels really weird to not get something for him.
It's getting the Ark Scorpion treatment.
I suspect he wasn't supposed to get a final form, then the budget increase in the last quarter had them change their mind only to find out that the suit wasn't going to be ready for the end of the show after all.
>intro for the final arc of geats is just him looking at the chainsaw sword like "where the frick is my power up"
I have the increasing suspicion that Buffa Mou was meant to be the Jyamashin powers that he go as a separate buckle for merchandising, though whether or not it actually gets made into its own thing is up to Bandai Namco
If that's true, then there's probably good reason for it not happening. Someone must have had the foresight of "no, we are not giving a mass murderer a fricking final form"
Surely they must have approved the storyline in the firstplace to advertise the toys. It seems like the storyline was approved and suddenly somebody had cold feet and they decided to backtrack with regard to Michinaga. And the result is a complete mess.
If the Desire Royale and the final arc issues were truly because of toys, this has to be first time I am aware of where toys have had such a negative impact on the storyline.
The problem is their budget was cut mid show, then suddenly they had extra budget thrown at them for the final stretch, which probably led to drastic rewrites. Then it seems like PLEX couldn't deliver all the new props on time so they had to rewrite again. Fantasy isn't in the film either despite it being introduced before the movie came out, which I'm guessing is because it wasn't ready when they shot the film a few months back.
>then suddenly they had extra budget thrown at them for the final stretch
Haven't been here in a month or two, was this confirmed? I know Q2 sold really well so I'd believe it
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/21810455/#q21812981
thanks anon
You're welcome
I don't think getting a power up would have helped Michinaga's storyline anon. The character had piss poor inconsistent set up from the start.
I totally agree. I think whatever happened bts with the toy must have played the role in the trainwreck of the final story arc.
My theory is that both Maou and Bujin were originally supposed to both appear in the early 30s (standard time for a Secondary final form, Buffa gets Jyamashin then + both were originally leaked in the same toy listing) Then were pushed back to Q4.
Then they either didn't have enough for the Maou suit and cut it, or saw Buffa's popularity and gave him the V-cinema. Who the frick knows anymore.
He's probably getting a V-Cinema regardless because most Side Riders do now.
But will he have to share a V-Cinema with Tycoon like Demons did Live and Evil?
I think he has better chance of sharing it with Daichi or Pumpjack (after they repaint the helmet) and maybe Tycoon/Na-go share.
Buffa Maou being the Jymashin is a rather good guess from avaliable information.
But I don't think there was anything for the early 30s signalling Bujin. I am assuming he would still coincide with Sera's forced death. How would it even happen in terms of him receiving it? Kekera?
You also had Ace geting Geats IX at the end of the Desire Royale. It seems a little crowded for Tycoon getting his final powerup.
In contrast it seems like the pieces were more there for Bujin with Tsumuri as the Desire Goddess.
Keiwa's death and resurrection seemed like natural time to give him his final form to me. IIRC other anons were even convinced this was when he would get it.
I'm remembering the time where people thought Keiwa was gonna get Fantasy
Oh yeah, during the Heaven and Hell game, right? I remember a lot of people do thought it was gonna be his time to shine with his upgrade, especially because it was after Neon's mini arc.
Yeah, I remember that too, it's amazing just how much Fantasy rumors changed with time.
>555 file size
Nice.
>using a crystalized tear from Tsumuri in front of the Vision driver creates an evil Tsumuri
I never want to hear any Geats fan complain when Gotchard saves the day using the power of friendship because that's not as bad as all these stupid wishes and goddesses' powers.
homie both are bad in their ways. One is Deus ex machina and McGuffins and the other is "NAKAMA POWER" that crap like One Piece propagated in the place of proper character development. Neither are good writing. Shitty manga and anime truly ruined a whole generation of Jap writers.
That was the least satisfying way they could have settled Buffa vs Beroba
>Buffa is still sad about Sara's death and not all the other people he murdered
>His other crimes are mentioned in a throwaway comment and not properly addressed
>The fight is against that terrible CGI bull form and not an actual suit-on-suit fight
I figured they'd be too cowardly to show a male "hero" finish off a female villain but I didn't expect this level of cringe
>Buffa pulls his Rider-crushing powers out of his ass, it wasn't even Ace's wish or anything, he just manifests it through the power of belief
This episode wasn't as frustrating as the last ones, but it was still pretty bad. Geats keeps finding new ways to disappoint every week.
Shit, we needed that one week break.
I am actually quite glad we saw that form again. I was worried we would never see someone defeat the worldkiller.
I'd have preferred a fight between a real suit and another real suit, especially since Beroba had two better suits in the course of the show she doesn't use in her final battle. It feels like a bad joke.
Nah, it’s Bull vs Bull. And it’s pretty natural for Michi to toss himself at a giant and attempt to kill it. Besides, we already saw Neon beat Premium Beroba.
>Neon beat premium beroba
Why the hell does she get to do that when Buffa is her true nemesis
>it’s bull vs bull
Then make a damn bull suit and give it to Beroba instead of the embarrassing fight we got
But Premium Beroba also has a cow motif, just like how Premium Kekera retained the frog motif (and powers).
>Geats keeps finding new ways to disappoint every week.
Geats is never consistent about 99% of its things but it is consistent about that atleast.
I wonder if the implication of the Rider-crushing powers still existing is that Michinaga could've absolutely floored Keiwa at any moment but chose not to because he'd had a deathwish ever since he stated "mercy"-killing all those Jamato
Nah the dumbass was just written to be dumb again. He could have used it against Kekera and Beroba too, but apparently grabbed Jet Cannon instead. If he wanted to die, he would have just up and let them kill him without even using Jet Cannon. The only thing that makes any sense about the theory of him having a death wish is that Michanga was thinking "Man, I sure wish I died a heroic death putting up a fight cause I'm a tsundere about dying"
Are premium Beroba and Kekera even Kamen Riders?
Jyamashin powers seem to work explicitly on things that call themselves Kamen Riders
He still used it to fight the Gardener, this isn't really an excuse. Power is power, just because it's hacks aren't turned on doesn't mean it's power is completely ineffective considering it's his strongest form.
No, the production blog implies that Michinaga regaining those powers at that moment was a miracle. They don't explain why they were gone in the first place, or why they came back beyond "it's a miraculous event".
Anyways, I doubt they'll let him activate those powers whenever he wants considering the last two bosses are Riders.
Fricking trash. Miracles happen. Yay. Forget fighting in a wish granting event so you can wish for something akin to a miracle, JUST BELIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE
Good song selection, but that song was more used as a way to pump up yourself and push you towards keep moving forward even in the face of God's Angels trying to murder humanity.
Nah, Geats is more applicable to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gupK06T68k
>just a miracle that happened for no reason
>not even like what happened with Neon where Ace had to use his powers and her father’s wishes to give her Fantasy
Bullcrap
Beroba should have died in misery instead of simping for Michinaga
what the frick kind of message is this?
It’s a lazy way to excuse Buffa for his actions, but it feels very hypocritical coming from a guy who wants to destroy the DGP.
Should they not hate Jitt or the DGP sponsors for their actions? They’re clearly pure evil and have not a single redeeming quality, why not hate them? Buffa killed one of them this very episode and it’s treated as a heroic thing.
tbh that's a fine message by itself. I've seen it before, I'm pretty sure Shotaro says something similar in W.
The problem here is it's being used as an excuse to let a mass murder get away with his crimes.
Difference is Shotaro was a private detective and his perspective on the law is defined by his job. None of the Geats characters have that role, and are fighting very despicable people who all deserve to die. Claiming they should only hate actions is out of place.
He’s literally saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”
You can't expect Geatsgays to even understand the comparison. Most of them just turn off their brain like they're watching Fast and Furious when it comes to using reasoning for why things happen the way they do so long as le heroes save the day.
They're basically trying to make Geats sound saint-like/god-like now. It feels like a weird direction for a trickster fox character and it's not like it had much of a build up in the show itself either. He just seemed to get all the development once his mother died.
It's indecisive characterization because Ace has no actual personality. The show's put together by a committee of people who are just trying to replicate Gaim/Ex-Aid, and they went with "hmmm we want guy who is confident, lies a bit, but uhhh also has a good heart?"
It's also the third show where Takahashi has to go on and on about some form of God, first it was Kuroto, then it was Ark, now it's Ace. The guy has an obsession with God complexes in general.
Geats has been preaching the whole show, bro.
Ace has preached before, but not like a saint, like a morally gray butthole.
This was said before Geats was able to see his mother again, I think. Ace himself is ruled by a selfish desire, and that desire warps the world around him. Geats as he is now, knows that being selfish only perpetuates a cycle of pain. Geats wants to break that circle.
>I think
So... headcanon it is.
No, when I typed "I think," it was because I was unsure of when that was said chronologically in the show. I was too lazy to go back and check, but I had an estimation of where the story had advanced.
There's nothing implying that Ace wants to break the cycle of things through his meeting of his mother and that he suddenly had this turn around from selfish guy to suddenly selfless guy. He had a anger outburst at his mother shattering to bits, and then met his "inner self" that never showed up again mocking him for being a moron who achieved nothing in 2,000 years. This is a lousy way to convey "he's now turned around", if it even achieves that.
What do you think "revolve on" is? Why do you think he has a giant strikethrough symbol on his stomach?
The fricking gimmick of the toy and the design of the suit? Are you seriously stretching the logic this fricking hard for a two bit show? Takahashi did not think this through like you are doing for him, anon.
Thanks to that last anon for the compliment. I think those messages are there. If you don't see them, that's fine. I'm certainly open to the idea that I could be reading into things too deeply.
Anon, I don't think he was complimenting you...
You're welcome to have your head canon, it's definitely not what was talked about in production design stages.
I was legit complimenting him. Takahashi is a shit writer to the point where randos can write better than him.
Holy shit, you have even worse standards than Takahashi it's hilarious.
Good. That means atleast im funny unlike takahashi's drivel.
Anon, there's a difference between laughing with you and laughing at your expense...
Better my writing be a clown than the hack making a fool of his audience for consuming 40 episodes of trash.
Shit, you must be ESLBlack person. I already laugh at Takahashi's expense anon, maybe you ought to get better at fricking English first before you think you can make the leap to fricking Japanese.
Oh the irony.
Black person shut up. Don't even start.
>Black person shut up. Don't even start.
Gay.
>Shit, you must be ESLBlack person.
It's "Shit, you must be AN ESLBlack person".
>I already laugh at Takahashi's expense anon, maybe you ought to get better at fricking English first before you think you can make the leap to fricking Japanese.
A run on sentence. Also it should've been "I already laugh at Takahasi's expense, anon."
Maybe make sure you are using english properly before accusing other people of being ESL, next time. Stick to insults that actually have anything to do with the show.
Dont respond to him seriously. He wants the attention.
Black person, I'm not the moron who can't write a sentence properly and in the same breath says they are a better replacement for Takahashi. You can eat a dick for real, homosexual.
>Black person, I'm not the moron who can't write a sentence properly
Your who tirade says otherwise.
Are you winning yet moron? Cherry pick me more.
the fricking mental gymnastics and cope you go through is gold medal worthy
Youre literally a better writer than takahashim just apply for his position because im sure youd get it.
Guess why anon said:
>it's not like it had much of a build up in the show itself either. He just seemed to get all the development once his mother died
I believe it did build up throughout the show. Geats' selfish desire is to see his mother again and perhaps try to free her. He continually reincarnates because he continuously fails to come to the realization that his selfishness is what is keeping him from what he wants. Every time he wins DGP it means that all those other dreams and wishes were not fulfilled. He's increasing the pain and misery in the world. Because he accepts now that it isn't all about him and sees that being a god/goddess of creation makes you a slave to desire as well he wants to break the cycle and bring everyone together to create a better world where by mutual understanding, we can all find happiness.
Ah yes anon, it's all for Ace to learn and preach, no one else is allowed to actually win and make wishes on their own without it either being a stupid one that had no point, or turned into a monkey paw effect or come to this realization before Ace does. We can all find happiness anon, through Ace, if only you read the Aceble.
How the frick is Ace not a Gary Stu again?
Go look up the definition, garys and marys don't start out with high power levels. They are characters that get loved by everyone else for no reason aka Nago.
>They are characters that get loved by everyone else for no reason
That's Ace too with the way everyone sucks his wiener and only turn against him for dumb reasons that aren't his fault
Anon, Ace started the show with the boost buckle, 2,000 years of memories, and everyone sucking his dick aside from characters who were going to suck his dick anyways at the end of the show.
Not through Ace, but with him.
Tomayto, tomahto. It literally doesn't fricking matter because it's both of them with this Fox Jesus c**t.
I hope your day gets better, man.
I hope yours ends miserably.
It won't.
But Ace was the one portrayed as being in the right when he said that in the show, it was Keiwa who needed to learn his lesson for not taking others' selfish desires into account.
>He’s literally saying “don’t hate the player, hate the game”
That's the basically the same excuse he gave Keiwa every time he challenged the morally questionable actions people like himself did at the DGP, so he might've used a poor argument to excuse terrible deeds but at least he was consistent this time.
EVIL DEMON I WILL BEHEAD YOU
I hate this type of bullshit. Just an excuse for shitstains to dodge any responsibility for their actions.
He's JESUS. DO YOU GET IT YET?!
Yes anon, we got it, along with how shitty the show was gonna be the moment we saw the opening and put the Jesus symbolism, the game granting you Apotheosis, and the Roman coin plus Matrix type simulation since the beginning. People just didn't listen that the show was going to be shit and started jerking it like moron chimps.
I wish he was half as based and charismatic as Jesus.
Jesus died a humiliating death that paved the way to allowing people to reason that they are saved so long as they accept a heavily edited book as the word of God, a book not even written by him, nor in the time of his life.
He was not based.
I thought it would take at least a couple years for a show to shit the bed harder than Revice did but Takahashi proved me wrong really quick.
What happened to Dapan?
Didn't expect memefrogman to outlive Beroba.
Also did they only save Sara from the tree of knowledge?
nobody cares about the rest , just gotta keep keiwa from going angsty emo again
>two weeks in a row of a deus ex machina saving the day
Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a third one next time
Saber>Geats
I like Jitt, sad he's likely getting killed off in the next episode, actually would've been fine if he never became a rider and just continued having street fights with everyone
My main investment in this is seeing if Michinaga gets Maou Buff and if Daichi actually is the secret final boss
Suel is taking the final boss role
I think he's still making it two episodes from now. Kekera is probably dying off next episode.
Suel will be revealed to be a time travelling Daichi
Nobody in their right mind thinks of this anymore
Incorrect.
this episode fricking owned
>awful CGI fight with deus ex machina power at the last minute that ends with romantic undertones between an underage actress and an adult
It blew
She's not underage
b***h is 16, which is still underage in most places outside of Japan. I know they changed the age of consent to exactly that, it still doesn't change that she's underage anon.
>Outside of Japan
It's a Japanese show for Japanese children, why should they care what the age of consent in California or wherever it is you're referring to is
You are not Japanese, nor do you speak for them. There are Japanese people who'd rather the age of consent be bumped up to be just like other places.
This excuse of Japanese show for Japanese children, then why are you watching it? You want fun? Why don't you enjoy stuff your own age? Sounds pretty fricking sus to me.
This stuff is junk entertainment, I like the action and suit designs, you're the one making it about the show needing to confirm to your local laws and trying to speak for what you think those people want for some reason (maybe they do want that, it doesn't concern me or you regardless)
I think you mean "conform", anon. Good for you, you like mindless junk. Excuse the rest of us who want better stuff, and not literal Jailbait characters.
I'm not even trying to speak for those people, I'm just stating a fact that people like you ignore in favor of satiating your own desire.
>I'm not even trying to speak for those people
>"There are Japanese people who'd rather the age of consent be bumped up to be just like other places."
You can personally disagree with it if you want but it's you, someone who isn't Japanese, getting offended on behalf of Japanese people here, not me. All I said were facts, she's not underage, you can find that personally creepy and could've said that but instead brought up all this other stuff about other countries as if that's relevant
And I stated a fact that there are people who've voice the opinion. It's not speaking for them, it's simply pointing out a demographic like that exists.
Other countries comparison is relevant because that's what those people sited they wanted. This is not even a debate, you can look it up online if you can read Japanese.
>Jailbait
>>>x.com
Each prefecture in Japan chooses its own age of consent. The nation establishes 16 (until recently it was 13) as the minimum, but places like Tokyo put it higher at 18.
16 is the age of consent in many first world countries and US states by the way, it basically is just because it's 18 in Commiefornia who produces and controls almost all western media that the age of 18 is what's enforced. Meanwhile kids are getting molested in Hollywood all the time yet this is what you're choosing to get mad about lmao
This is a non point. Kids getting molested in Hollywood has nothing to do with Japanese shows producing Jailbaits as eye candy. One is a Western problem, the other is an Eastern problem. Maybe you can't tell the difference, but that's on you.
My point is you're getting mad at the wrong thing, actual pedophillia in the entertainment industry doesn't bother you, the Japs doing something that you morally disagree does, you're an annoying Jap-worshippijg weeb
I'm not the moron who got mad and brought out the Hollywood comparison and saying it doesn't bother someone else and then in the same breath try and lecture someone about their moral code for pointing out they're doing something creepy with an underage girl, on a thread about Japanese shows, not Hollywood shows.
>americuck seething that other countries have different laws to his
Get a reality check moron
I pity you fricks who can only assume "American" when you have no sense of right and wrong on where to put your dick.
The character isn’t but the actress is, so it’s gross.
sorry you aren't having fun anon hope you like gotchard more
>underage
She's the oldest character
They're talking about the actress anon, not the character.
>underage actress
can't you homosexual read?
You have to excuse him anon, he was busy plastering his screen displaying Beroba a bit back so he has to adjust like a fricktard who just had post-nut moment.
You're blowing the actors' age difference out of proportion, it's literally just 3 years lol
This is so performative it's funny
>geats fan is a pedo
Of course
You're a pedophile? Damn anon, hope you get the help you need
Beroba creamed her pants after getting her shit kicked in. b***h is truly a miserable hoe who likes abuse.
I'd love to climb that hill some day.
gazer and glare looked better
>still no maou
Buffa was robbed
This is karma for all the screentime and treatment in the middle portion of the series.
This is going to look really weird if the last OP ends with 3 of them having new forms and Michinaga still with Zombie because Bandai was incompetent and forgot to ship Maou buckle.
It's really weird Daichi and Michinaga hogged so much screentime.
Refresh my memory, is Premium Beroba supposed to be weaker than the CG form?
Jitto implied the Premium Cards were better.
Yes, Kekera even said so this ep that she is taking it seriously. I don't get people whining when it was the logical choice to do.
Well this sure got confusng now.
Everything related to Buffa is confusing and stupid
I guess it could be a situation where Premium is the all-around better form, but when it comes to raw strength the regular form still has the edge (since it's a giant), and given that Michinaga is...a simple man, let's say, Beroba figured that just overpowering him directly with that strength was the best choice.
The show doesn't say any of this, of course, but it's a reasonable enough explanation to me.
I find it sad that Geatsfrens have to headcanon and fill in the blanks so much.
>headcanon anons has better writing than takahashi
The writer really fricked up.
>have to suffer through a whole month more of this trash fire
>suffering is prolonged by SPORTS
Geats would've ended on the same date even without Koshien, all Koshien did is grant you one less episode of this show.
>a whole month more
Hang in there, the Gotchard content is coming
I don't really care if you like or dislike Buffa, there is something fricking stupid about giving Beroba and Kekera actual physical suits. And then having the fricking Culmination of Buffa's story with Beroba being a fight where a Man in a Suit runs from a Rubber Ball in a field. That shit was fricking stupid, no matter how much I like the Buffa Jyamashin power.
Seen a lot of Zero-One defending and Pandemic Blaming for the reason it went downhill, but anyone who's got the ability to reason can see the show's problems were all in it's first quarter and that Takahashi's episodes being cut actually does him a favor, otherwise you get this bullshit dragged out story that is just going on and on.
>half of the episode is just DaPan vs NaGo filler
For frick sake are we in the 30s or what?
If Ace remade the world then why does the Tree still exist, and all those people are still dead? What exactly did Ace reset?
the Tree didn't exist in Keiwa's world, he reset the world so that it exists again.
He brought back the previous world, the one from before Keiwa's wish created the world they were in. So, the mass resurrection, gang attacks and such never happened.
>So, the mass resurrection, gang attacks and such never happened.
It also means he committed mass genocide and murdered all the innocent riders who were brought back like the dad with a sick son and the firefighter.
Cute redeemed murderer
How many times are they gonna pull the space aryan shit in the franchise?
Enough times they need to in order to make infantile femcel fangirls who are only watching the shows for the twink MCs wet, anon.
>remakes the world
>simply goes back to a previous one where Keiwa's parents are still dead
What fricking good is believing in Ace if you are Keiwa? If his wish didn't turn into a weird Monkey paw so he can have his stupid downfall, then arguably he got back his parents in a way that Ace's shithead can't even grant?
This is kind of bullshit too since Ace pretty much should have been able to remake the world into one where people were already freed from tree and Keiwa's parents are alive.
Ace is not yet in complete control of his powers and requieres people to believe in him, so maybe he can only recreate worlds that have existed in the past, not create completely new ones.
Headcanon. Nothing in the show implies that, anon. He asked Keiwa to believe in him, as if he was capable of granting his wish, yet here we are, in an episode where it simply shifted back to a previous reset as if this is a Stage Select moment, but with timelines.
Ace's powers = being a cult leader.
Geats is pro-cult like Revice was anti-vaxx/Zero One pro child labor/Saber pro-literacy.
What's gachashit gonna be then?
Pro gambling?
Pro Decade propaganda
Anon, you know something is wrong when you framed Saber as pro-literacy... "Books should not make people sad", Black person was trying to ban tragic and sad books. No, Saber was pro-happy feelings and feel good fantasies.
Geats being pro-cult is actually worse for it's story overall since he defeated the cult leader in Suel only to take place of it ideologically himself. Revice's message is kind of fricked up, but it wasn't anti-vaxx, it was essentially anti-mandate. Zero-One is built on negating the Humagear slave rebellion and appointing a few of them that started the rebellion in subjugated roles, of course it's going to be pro-child labor, it doesn't even care about the pretense it used to build up the Us vs Them story.
Touma's message is simply that the power/knowledge one can get from books should be used for good, not evil.
I love you headcanon gays who tries to rationalize the show every week.
I think the show is starting to become self-aware because several quotes from this episode are all about how tiresome this situation has become.
For a whole ass moment I thought he was stretching his right leg.
>I wish to frick Sara in front of Keiwa
>How will this help me bring the Bad End
>The what?
>when Keiwa comes back home he finds Sara naked
>she tells him she can't live without frog wiener anymore
>proceeds to be fricked in the ass by Kekera while Keiwa cries and jerk offs
Sounds like a Bad End to me.
Creepy coomers...
Behold, the same people who in the same breath will tell you "it's a kid's show!"
Sex with Neon.
I bet it will be strange for future newbies, who don't know the behind the scenes stuff, watching Geats and seeing essentially the second most prominent character being the only one who doesn't get a big new form at the end
It would be like if Baron whipped out Lemon Arms in the final battle
>It would be like if Baron whipped out Lemon Arms in the final battle
>Kouta you may have unlimited fruit works but I have an arrow sword
https://twitter.com/bandai_ridertoy/status/1685848406961561600
so if someone wants to live the amazon alpha lifestyle
should I be worried or proud?
it's a family member.
Find out which corporation hired him to create a race of monsters.
she 100% would take that gig.
Literally my sister wants to kill what she eats and just live that way. I dunno if it's based or hella weird.
Nothing wrong with it as long as she does it legally and safely. Encourage/help her to find out what the laws are on hunting and weapon ownership in your area. You might also consider raising chickens in your home, if you can.
the biggest problem is just deciding on where the hell we'd start this operation. remote jobs in the midwest sounds ideal.
as someone with a sister who absolutely hated how deku-coded steven universe ass good boy keiwa was I gotta say bujin sword moment was very relatable. So who's worse to be like? Amazon or Keiwa?
>Heh. Your followers aren't gonna turn themselves into Jamato.
>You can't die yet! You've got more murders to commit!
I mean they can't let him die until he tells them how to get the people out of the tree.
Said tree didn't need to continue to be a problem because Ace has world changing powers...
Buffa actually fights so well, he's carrying his first form into the finale. Geats used to fight amazingly as well but now he's just gear reliant.
>you have to forgive unrepentant terrorist murderers because... YOU JUST DO OK??
Do Acetards really?
They do, anon. It's kind of pathetic, but most of these tards just aren't media literate to begin with.
>Keiwa only stops being an edgelord once the heroes bring his sister back
He’s learned nothing, if he ever lost his sister again I don’t doubt he’d repeat all of this over again. All he learned is that…he should trust his friends and not evil people? No shit you idiot, why would you ever trust people who have said TO YOUR FACE they want misery for you and everyone like you? Keiwa had no trouble trusting his friends before, even when they tricked him he still accepted him. So he trusted his friends for 30+ episodes, didn’t trust them for like 6 episodes, and now is back to trusting them. How the hell is that character development.
Unless they’re from the future, then it’s okay to murder them mercilessly like the scum they are. How the hell is Ace gonna say this the same episode Buffa kills Beroba.
Don't think about it anon, just listen to people saying it's peak and open up your wallet for Bandai. Nobody came here to learn anything, they're just here to sperg about how much of a great fan they are for supporting a corporate toy company and try to make it their thing to recommend it to everyone just like how all these recent badly written main characters try to impose their morality on everyone.
The same shit happened with Zero-One, the robot terrorists got away with everything they did in the show. Thankfully they killed themselves in the v-cinemas.
I'd like it if Michinaga and Daichi killed themselves in the v-cinemas
Again I think Fuwa's death was something that the actor wanted to happen, since after that he pretty much vanished from public eyes. As for MBJR, as the Outsiders have shown there's no way they will remain dead
Aruto was at least a naive moron so him doing that is in character
Ace constantly acts like he knows what's going on but makes the stupidest fricking decisions or is just absent from helping in fights for no reason even though he has frick all else to do
Ace being this way just pleases a lot of homosexuals who needed their itch scratch for awhile now too. They've wanted a wienery, confident Rider in ages after so many shows of just naive twinks with no style, they were oozing with joy once they saw Kan Hideyoshi on screen, it completely blinds them from the show being bad or that he has no actual personality because it's all relying on Kan's natural charisma which isn't much either.
Sara is cute
>I apologize for killing you
>It's fine! Just don't do it again, alright?
Will she forgive Nadge tho?
I hope so!
I want to think she'll be more wary with him... but then again, we are also talking about Sara so, maybe.
Let me guess, Buffa's Vcinema is going to be about these two getting together and Keiwa being forced to call Michinaga nii-san at the end
"So how did you and mom meet?"
"I killed her"
This has to be one of the most forced coupling ever.
>was joking with my friend that buffa was going to suddenly get his power up back for zero reason after losing it for zero reason in the fight with hag
>it actually happens
What the frick, why is this show so bad.
It it is better(worse) than that. She used her giant CG form for literally no reason. The premium forms were supposed to be stronger. The writer just made her do it since the Premium form did not count as a Kamen Rider.
Kamen Rider Beroba is stronger in raw strength and size, and obviously would've won if he didn't get the power up. Premium Beroba is overall better, in terms of balance, but fighting ONE guy without powerful upgrades meant that Kamen Rider Beroba was unironically a better choice, purely by listed stats.
>but fighting ONE guy without powerful upgrades meant that Kamen Rider Beroba was unironically a better choice, purely by listed stats.
Premium Beroba was superior in strength and had a gun she can use for long range attacks. She already fought Buffa before and did fine enough of her own, not to mention that as a kaijin and not a real kamen rider, Buffa's rider killing powers wouldn't have worked and she'd have survived the attack. She made the worst choice possible for no good reason other than they needed her gone fast.
Both forms have guns, speedwatcher.
His point still stands despite his weird gun comment, Geatsgay.
>Buffa's rider killing powers wouldn't have worked
Nobody knew Buffa would get his rider killing powers back from a Takahashi asspull
She wanted to kill him in her big and scary smashy form so he'd die in maximum fear in despair at his own powerlessness and how he couldn't turn things around for himself. So she choose the big scary bull form instead. That's probably a dumb choice but it fit in character with her being a stupid arrogant b***h who's obsessed with causing misery first and foremost.
Out of universe it's obviously that Maou was supposed to be unlocked and defeat premium Beroba but something fricked up behind the scenes, so they had to do this instead. But it still at least makes sense according to how Beroba acts.
What makes your headcanon kinda fall apart is that she didn't use her Kamen Rider form when she was tormenting Neon and her family.
She wasn't fighting Neon and her father in a huge empty canyon. Sure she could have just nuked the hospital like that but that wouldn't cause them despair and misery just being crushed in an instant. With Buffa she had plenty of room to be huge and threatening to him
Well, crushing the hospital with Neon's parents inside in front of her certainly would've brought her despair and misery.
Let's be honest, Beroba wasn't behaving like a 350 year old hag, she was behaving like a high school girl would, giggling all over the place. For a 350 year old hag, she sure was fricking dumb.
Everyone in the future is to various degrees. When age effectively means nothing to you because you are effectively immortal and can look however you want and have no real responsibilities because everyone has already been done so your whole life revolves around fricking with the people of the past it doesn't really lead up to maturing
Nah, this is just lazy writing. Can't properly imagine up an actual dystopic reality and how people would be like in that type of setting, just make them all the same type of psycho who only care about fricking with people. Real brainer here.
Disagree. It's not about a dystopia. If anything it's the opposite. The future people due to living in a world without suffering and where they basically are godlike immortal beings with their every needs catered to treats everything includeing lifedeath struggles as just more gratification and entertainment for their immortal lives. That's one of the sins and lessons of the DGP how they turned the suffering and life/death struggles of the players trying to achieve their dreams into a form of entertainment and the contrast between the players who treat it as real and the sponsors who see it as entertainment due to their differing material conditions.
Why would you even expect Beroba to act like a seasoned immortal being when she's more like a 300 year old child who never needed to grow up and has graduated from kicking over anthills and frying ants with magnifying glasses to screwing with people from the past?
The opposite would be a Utopia anon, and clearly that is not the kind of world painted as the future. All needs are met, but they are sterile. All forms of entertainment is available, but they are unsatisfied. Apparently this makes perfect sense to you that future people all turn out to be infantile just because they don't deal with mortality anymore. This is not a Utopia in any sense of the word. A Utopian society is defined as a pacifist society, clearly not what these psychos are.
I think you're just justifying the bad writing with some head canon that doesn't actually have a logic to it besides the typical trope done even with vampires. "Live for thousand years, is bored" is an overused trope that doesn't actually add anything to the character. It's lazy and the easy answer out to everything.
If I had a dime every time someone wrote an immortal or hundreds of years old character as "bored", I'd be so fricking rich right now.
>This is not a Utopia in any sense of the word. A Utopian society is defined as a pacifist society, clearly not what these psychos are.
That's not true at all:
OED:
Utopia: An imagined or hypothetical place, system, or state of existence in which everything is perfect, esp. in respect of social structure, laws, and
Dystopia: An imaginary place or condition in which everything is as bad as possible; opposed to utopia, n. (cf. Cacotopia, n.).
That's more evident in Japanese where the word for utopia is 理想郷 is basically ideal-place.
On the surface the future-world is clearly something we would consider an ideal world where there's no death from biologial aging and where people's needs are either met or no longer even necessary and humanity are almost gods. That's the furtherest thing from a dystopia.
> Apparently this makes perfect sense to you that future people all turn out to be infantile just because they don't deal with mortality anymore
Again, why would you grow mentally like a regular preson if you are entirely divorced from the human condition and humanity in general and don't even have a "real" form, but rather a series of forms/shapes you assume based on your state/mood and situation from 16-year old girl to a giant robot cow to a plant jymato? That's barely human even in the context of Kamen Rider.
They also aren't all psycho's like Beroba and Kekera. Some of them were decent if still somewhat ill adjusted like Ziin and Kyun. The problem seems to be that Beroba's antics brought out the worst in sponsors who all decided they liked that and DGP management is happy to role with this because they're pissed at Ace for defying them and want another Goddess.
According to Kekera, Ziin only became a decent person due to Ace's influence. He noted that Ziin would've simply moved on to another player after Ace's death before his development.
I mean there's a difference between Ziin just moving on to another fave to like and being a psychopath who gets off on others misery and sees the non future time periods as playthings to step on. Ziin was looking for something to satisfy him yes but he wasn't an outright horrible person like Kekera and Beroba and even he seems to realize the flaws of the future while Kekera and Beroba love what they are
Ziin being willing to move on to a different favorite also shows that he has no regard for human life in general anon. To him, a person's life is like a firework. He wants to be wowed by it, and that's it. He doesn't actually care about the person, more about his self-satisfaction.
To be fair that's not necessarily evil. Lots of people in real life do that. Ziin is far of a more stable and decent person than Beroba.
It's not evil, but it's not exactly good either. The guy doesn't reek of a product from a Utopian society, is the point.
>On the surface
So you don't notice the irony of your own logic here. A Utopian society would have solved these issues. It would even address the issue humans have about not dealing with mortality and still find a way to teach them to respect life and protect it. Clearly, as a Pacifist society that a Utopian world would allow.
If the society that your future produces only shits out humans who have no care for life in general, then this should be chaos at all times since no one would have a regard for human life in general. In fact, it would have gotten so bad that they need to find an outlet for people instead of destroying one another, to destroy the past instead, it's literally the definition of a dystopic world. Just because societal conditions are made perfect, doesn't mean it's actually a Utopia, it needs to actually be a functioning society that is a complete pacifistic one.
A future where people are basically monsters is the definition of Dystopic, anon. On the surface, it can sound like a utopia, but it's actually a dystopia where people are sterile. How do you not understand a simple concept anon?
It's basically a play on reality tv and V-tubers and streamers. They even literally call their favorite Riders their "ooshi"s.
Like I said, this is just lazy writing. Copy and paste current day lazy and bored internet personalities onto a show and call it the future. All you've done is appeal to bored, angsty teenagers who want something a little more cynical for their viewing. It's not that different from anime like Mirai Nikki/Future Diary.
Ok, but why did Beroba say she was going all out while Kekera commented she's actually taking it seriously if she really isn't, like you claim?
Anon, I wasn't making the claim... I just said she was fricking dumb for a 350 year old hag, and then I made the point to other anon you're quoting that he was wrong about his definitions. You're quoting two different people here.
Don't play dumb now, both of those posts are justifying Beroba's choice as her being a dumb b***h who was just playing around, even though Beroba herself ando her partner in crime acknowledge she got serious for this.
Learn to read, moron. I pointed out that her entire characterization the whole show didn’t make sense for an immortal, the other anon pulled shitty logic out of his ass to say it made sense because she’s from a Utopic world without understanding the meaning of Utopic. You literal dumb fricking c**t.
All this shit just to justify a contrivance that was made to lead into an asspull, which was the writer's excuse to have his fave win a big climactic fight in the most unsatisfying way possible.
You can't explain the contrivance without broaching the subject of how ridiculous this whole shit comes off anon. Most other anons here just brush off the logic of the show breaking on itself (as early as the reveal that it's a reality TV show) in favor saying the show is good.
Stop samegayging
Cope more Geatsgay. People point out your show is shit and you think it's a conspiracy or some shit.
Cry more.
kek, Buffa is such a jobber that to win a fight he needs a bullshit powerup AND the person he's fighting needs to gimp themself
Buffa got character assassinated early on at the start of the show. You got this construction worker whose life probably sucks competing in a wish granting battle royal and it's turned into some whinny shit about his dead friend instead of focusing on how shit his life just is in general.
Buffa turning evil at all for a while made zero fricking sense. Literally in his dying moments the first time he gives Ace his blessing or whatever and then he immediately turns evil soon after.
I don't know if Keiwa turning evil or Buffa turning evil made less sense to me, it's pretty close for both but I think Keiwa edges it out since he was basically like Kouta before turning evil and the reason for it is supremely moronic.
He's the knock-off Baron, they didn't have actual motivations for him to portray him having a grudge against Ace, so it was forced upon his character for no other reason than "We need our ideological showdowns so morons can think this is a serious show and not just stupid cynicism"
Yeah, this entire show is like a shittier Gaim mixed with a shittier Ryuki.
Yeah, Raia was a two bit player, but even his dead friend arc was more impactful.
>the anti-geats schizos are circlejerking again
Go back to whatever SEABlack person discord you came from!
>triggered Geatsgay
Cope Black person.
Ex-Aid is being more and more of a fluke as Takahashi's writing continues.
You guys are miserable, holy shit. Find something else to watch if you hate the show so much.
I love Kamen Rider.
Shut up, Marcosatsu. Your videos are fricking lame.
Geats is way better than Revice and Saber so i don't know why people keep complaining around here.
>low bar show is better than two other low bar shows
this is not a real argument.
Saber is better
Die!
Most people have already forgotten that you need a Vision Driver to turn people into Stone God/Goddess, yet it just starts happening to Ace cause Takahashi now wants to artificially insert stakes.
>Ep 44 (Na-go Fantasy debut) and 45 (Ace vs Keiwa) didn't reach bump limit, but this episode does
Neon and Keiwa bros, how did we let this happen...
Neon is only liked by coomers
People's goodwill toward Keiwa ran out a long time ago
Coomers must have really low standards on being attracted to a pudgy pig girl like Neon
It's coomers with yellow fever or have a Jap fetish. There's no real appreciation of beauty going on here, it's just literally "grass is greener on the other side"
It's pure nitpicking and shitposting about how bad and flawed it was. Considering the fact they didn't hit the limit proof they're better episodes
lmfao, episode not hitting bump limit = quality episode must be some new cope that the show isn't actually a dumpster fire.
My point exactly
Alright then anon, cope more.
I will cope as much as I need to be happy. You fricks can just be miserable all the time.
Okay anon.
But I will be happier in the end than all of you
I'll just be happy when we get a good show
Is there any point in the previous episodes where they say the Premium forms are specifically better and more powerful? Because as far as I see he just says it makes them "premium" which could literally mean anything.
They don't mean anything. It would have made more sense if the Premium cards were what allowed Beroba and Kekera to remain in the past despite the Grand End happening and not the stupid wishes they made.
Jitto says the Cards would give Beroba and Kekera "appropiately premium powers". Premium is a word that's used for things that are better, higher quality or grant you more.
I mean giant CG Beroba nuked the entire Jyamato garden, which is way more power than either of the premium forms showed.
There's no point trying to power scale this shit anymore. Takahashi's been shitting the bed so fricking hard it'd be better for the show if it got more episode reductions, cause clearly, even his plans for what he would have done in Zero-One had it not been reduced would have just been repetitive shit. And people have been recently trying to shield Zero-One as it is by doing some pandemic blaming, as if that show itself didn't shit the fricking bed as well.
What's the point of noting the Cards' "Premium" powers and giving one to Beroba then? Premium Kekera can at least fight back against Geats IX, when the latter is supposed to be well above anything that came before it.
Nothing but new toy marketing, anon. They're cheap last minute add-ons.
Oh, please, PLEASE tell me Keiwa is not going to blame Michinaga for what happened to his sister. He can't be this dumb. He knows that Daichi is the real culprit, and that Beroba and Kekera (who are right there... laughing maniacally) are the ones pulling the strings. Also, this episode made me realize how utterly boring he is as a character. People shit on Neon and Michinaga, but they both grew and changed throughout the show. Keiwa has been this boring, dumb stray line from the beginning up to this point. The fact that people compared him to Kagami is downright insulting. Anyway, I'm almost done catching up.
Congratulations anon, you have now arrived at the point where most people woke up to how much of a trainwreck the show actually is. Ever since then, many people have come up with varied views on where and when this show wrecked itself. Me, I thought it was going to shit itself since day one.
>but they both grew and changed throughout the show
-waa I'm sad
-waa I'm even sadder
-wait no I'm happy now
-I'm bad but also maybe kinda good
-wait no I'm actually pure evil
-wait no I was actually good the whole time
Yeah great character arcs
Keiwa does go after Daichi (for all of one episode), but they find a way to make the stuff surrounding those two incredibly annoying.
The issue with Keiwa is while Michi and Neon were getting all the development, he was just kicked down a flight of stairs repeatedly. It genuinely feels like the director just wanted to spite the fact that people rooted for him more than anyone else in the cast at first. While Geats never reaches Revice levels of absolutely fricking moronic, it's sure as hell been in a decline since the Jamato Royale stuff
Anal sex with Neon.