Saber>Revice>Geats>>>>Zero-One
I notice all these endings have a main character who “perished” come back or still be present in spirit. Wish they stopped doing that.
>saber at the top
bro just watch sentai. this shit isn't made for you. I mean i guess it might be. Gotchard looks kiddy as hell and has that awful cg shit.
Both Saber and Geats ended with the main characters resolving everything thanks to the pure magic of belief and happiness, with the entire cast living happily ever after. So did Revice and Zero-One let terrorists go free. By those estimates, all Reiwa shows are "sentai". Go frick yourself.
Saber>Revice>Geats>>>>Zero-One
I notice all these endings have a main character who “perished” come back or still be present in spirit. Wish they stopped doing that.
Well. That was a an overpowered protag light novel disguised as a Kamen Rider series and ultimately it was just kinda meh. Geats had some really interesting ideas like just how ANYONE could get dragged into the DGP, the hotswapping buckles and the overall metanarrative around viewers and tragedy but they all ended up either pushed to the wayside or just didn't get used well enough.
Revice > Zero-One > Geats > Saber
I know Revice gets shit on but the entire exchange at the end where you can tell it's just Ikki's long goodbye kills me inside. Revice had a rough third leg but damn it, I love that group of morons so much.
Kinda got burnt out on the last 3~4 episodes, but solid overall; fantastic first half for the most part. Anyways, what did he do again to undo his god chains/petrification? Why did he need to die to become a full god (if he wasn't already)?
Wizard was a lot better than Revice.
Ghost might even be better than Revice. would need to rewatch to be sure but if memory serves at least the characters in ghost were entertaining enough to make up for shortcomings more than those in Revice.
Geats was not just better than revice. This was a lot better than Rider has been in a long while. We're not getting another season like this for a long while lads. Strap yourselves the frick in.
>Geats was not just better than revice. This was a lot better than Rider has been in a long while. We're not getting another season like this for a long while lads. Strap yourselves the frick in
Pfffft hahahaha
I'm confused, so Ace remade the world again. Presumably this time they don't have DGP or kamen rider. So nobody should remember shit from the previous world right? since there's no ID core to touch.
Then what's up with jamato still being around and futuregays showing up?
And what continuity is this? are all the dead people from the last DGP back as well?
Ace's world, Ace's rules. He probably just made exceptions for a few. Same with the future people, he erased the entire DGP management team specifically, not all the future people, hence Kyuun and Ziin are still around and free to visit. It also seems to be implied that everyone's forgotten him sans his closest allies/friends, given Keiwa still has his ID core. So presumably Michinaga and Neon also have theirs.
The first time Ace remade the world with his powers, he made it so that everyone kept their memories of past events, they didn't need to touch ID Cores to regain them. Presumably he did the same thing in this new world.
Also, there's no time resets when a new world is made, despite what you think.
>And what continuity is this? are all the dead people from the last DGP back as well?
I assume not everyone. At the very least we can assume Keiwa and Sara's parents are still dead.
It's been well-established by now that future people who come back to the past are in actual physical danger by doing so. The show's been very consistent about this.
Suel outright panics when he starts disappearing and we see the gate to the future/other dimension is closed, so nah, they're goners. It's kinda like the grandfather paradox, I think.
They were still in the past when the world got remade.
They're fricking dead. Suel is double dead because Ace not-possessed his body.
Why the frick do you think the woman was having a meltdown over not being able to go back?
>Coming up with complaints for geats is pretty difficult
It's the easiest thing in the world, so much so that the last 14~ episode threads were filled with them. Now, coming up with reasons why it's good, on the other hand...
I still need to catch up on a whole bunch of episodes, but are they doing the thing like Realizing Hopper or Wonder Almighty? I actually liked that and was hoping it would be the Reiwa trend, but Revice fricked it up like it does everything
so i might start a new character in baldurs gate 3 who is a bard named Neon. the real question is what do I subclass after starting bard? or do I at all? Rogue shit for cat-like? maybe more wizard shit for Fantasy?
I'm not, because I don't pick my opinions on stuff based on whether it's popular or not, but rather on my own personal experience with it.
You're only bringing up the fact that it's popular to cope because you can't handle others here disliking it for what it is, you
use it as a way to reassure yourselves that the show's good because genuine negative opinions bother you that much. Spend your time crafting actual arguments to praise the show with instead, that's what a good Geatsfrens are like, not the sorry excuses that have been plaguing these threads for months now.
I never brought up that it was popular? wtf im neither of the anons you were quonting lmao.
you're just assuming Im another anon. figures.small brain behavior for small brain tastes.
Maybe try to not butt into conversations if you don't wanna get mistaken for others then. This is an anonymous board, moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
maybe try to keep up and actually have a point outside of "muh popularity". this is an openly available message board, small brain.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>maybe try to keep up and actually have a point outside of "muh popularity"
That's the argument of the people I was replying to, you mouthbreathing moron. Take your own fricking advice and learn to follow conversations, you waste of air.
9 months ago
Anonymous
oh that makes sense, the onegay crying about the show.
you first waste of air 🙂
Samegay?
9 months ago
Anonymous
nope. its just easy to see you're the only guy here crying about this shit.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Stop posting those garbage wojaks and give me a screencap, moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>stop >literally the only one
Aint even him that's just bad form, anon.
>I don't pick my opinions on stuff based on whether it's popular or not, but rather on my own personal experience with it.
And why is somebody else "coping" for liking something you don't like? What are they coping with? Success is the only objective metric you can tell anybody to "cope" over.
>And why is somebody else "coping" for liking something you don't like?
The issue isn't that they like Geats (I personally think it's meh), the issue is that they're coping with non-arguments such as the desperate "b-but everybody else likes it, the people here have shit opinions". I hate when people pull the garbage non-argument of popular=good, even for things I do like, it reeks of desperation to prove something without putting actual effort to argue why.
>you can do whatever you dream of in life but it comes at the cost of the work you put into it
oh this is why /krg/ hates geats. this place is full of neets I forgot.
You can always achieve happiness and your Ideal world as long as you fight for it. Also Ukiyo Ace is our God and master
"You don't have to be a Kamen Rider to make your wish come true as long as you're willing to fight for it." And "Desires give humanity strength."
That is indeed the message, but when the world is saved just because your best friend conveniently became a god who you can now pray to, the message becomes convoluted. The day isn’t saved thanks to the hard work of people who’s desire pushed them to the limit, it’s saved because god was our pal. The message is good but the way you get to it is moronic.
this is copium from a NEET loser that takes the message too literally
it doesn't matter if Ace became a god, everyone had to suffer and put in the work and grind to get to where they end up regardless
To discard that shows that you're weka and you're ngmi
Ace-sama would be disappointed
Here's the thing: there was no other possible way for the fight to be resolved:
>Suel had the superior firepower, downright stronger. >He basically was toying with the trio >why? because he can reverse their personal time to a point before them getting powers, therefore they would never be able to do anything.
Ace appearing was him recognizing sincerely the trio's resolve to stop him, because otherwise they would NEVER have stop him... unless of course they own resolve gave them their powers back, but can you really say THAT would not be an asspull if that were the case?
tldr: Ace had to step in in one way or another, or else there wouldnt be an ending, or the ending would be just stupid...
Its weird how there was no greater evil or some monsters or anything here as the main villains.
Just some buttholes from the future with super technology fricking with people from the past for funsies. It's crazy how it took someone becoming a Kami to finally be able to make them frick off. And even so there's still plenty of buttholes in the future still like the ones Neon and Timefire managed to scare off, and people can still come and go as they will too.
Feels like things changed for the better but also not all too.
Am I the one with a mixed feeling like this?
Not really? The whole point of all of this was to first and foremost, stop the invisible hand of the DGP/future from puppeting the outcomes can have in the world. There's a reason why they keep emphasing that the new world is one where everyone CAN be happy (not "will")
No you're not alone. I dont hate geats at all, but after the reveal when future people got involved, my mind suddenly goes the real enemy is gonna be the future organization.
But nah, it's all just suel wanking the future audience which were not very clear need to be taken down or not.
That's god in future people/DGP terms. Ace basically became the equivalent of one of those local Japanese deities. Hence why he's got his own little temple shrine now
that is something that is just not going to be friendly to western audiences without the context of there are like way too many japanese gods and they all have a bunch of temples.
>maybe try to keep up and actually have a point outside of "muh popularity"
That's the argument of the people I was replying to, you mouthbreathing moron. Take your own fricking advice and learn to follow conversations, you waste of air.
Still doesn't made any sense, he's already a god when his mother died. And then become one, again, when tsumuri transfer her pussy juice to ace. So what is the difference?
He gained the creation powers, but in a mortal shell, physically speaking. Tsumuri juice turned him into a god proper, but that came with getting statue-fied so he rejected that, turning back into a mortal with creation powers (which Suel exploited last episode).
In this episode he basically took the route of turning into a Japanese deity (which by folklore, can come about from basically anything that embodies enough belief/ideas/etc). It's hard to explain.
Nah, everyone from the future not died just fricked off to their own time.
We see in vcinext preview beroba is already back when it's clear michinaga defeated her.
So clearly, that is not a killing blow. Same with ace and suel.
We'll have to wait and see how the "dead" future people come back in the V-Cinema. They said that future people that stay in the present during a Grand End are supposed to disappear and die, otherwise there would no point in them going through the gate to the future.
Is this the first Takahashi show where the current threat is 100% gone and has no hints of coming back? I remember the Bugster virus and Ark still being around. Anyway, good shit. I'll miss him so much.
They're basically artificial humans so couldn't they just be remade again?
>Is this the first Takahashi show where the current threat is 100% gone and has no hints of coming back? I remember the Bugster virus and Ark still being around.
The V-Cinema trailer showcases the Jyamato threatening the world, Beroba, and Niramu, so no.
I mean, I sure could have used a few more explanations about how the futureshit truly works, but does Suel really need a real identity? He's just the top powetripping butthole who runs the show who's got his head so up his ass he doesn't see anyone or anything but as mediums for edgelord funsies.
Well, making him a mysterious masked character meant some people would expect something to be under that mask, like what happened with PunkJack and the Game Masters. But in the end it was just done so we could have a cheap shock scene in this episode with Ace reappearing with his clothes.
Ever since his first appearance i had theorized he was Ace from a bad future where he abused his god powers and lost all of his ideals.
That theory is now down the drain but it was fun speculating about Suel's identity.
I blame the movie being about four Aces and the entire reincarnation idea. Like X00 Aces later and he ends up running the DGP and going back in time to be an evil bastard to timeloop events
He is strong on concepts but weak on character writing. His weakness can be saved by a good enough actor (Dan largely came about cause his performance was so over the top), but if they're even just okay it can feel like they've got very little to work with. Geats suffers from no one really pushing the material they were given further, Ace especially didn't reach the smug peaks he needed. I kinda wonder what would happen if he had a smaller cast to work with. It would help with his tendency to side line characters but he never does much with non-riders anyway.
He clearly learns from what worked and what didn't in each of his shows, Geats feels like what Zero-One would've been like if he had more creative freedom and the Covid break didn't happen
Ex-Aid is my favorite season but I thought Geats ended up just alright. I haven't seen Zero-One so I guess that'll be the tiebreaker but my hopes aren't very high for that turning out well.
Either he's bored of Rider or executives are making him do dumb things with all the NEW TOYS they need to sell.
I always looked forward to a new episode of Ex-Aid or Zero-One, but I had no anticipation for the next episode in Geats after the first 5 episodes or so.
>Daichi has a wish of wanting humans and Jyamato to live together at the end >V-Cinext teases the idea of the true nature of Jyamato
Why even bother making a wish?
fairly certain they're back. Keiwa has at least wished everyone the DGP killed back. just because his family was killed you shouldn't assume the rest of them were.
What about all the people that died unfairly before Ace decided to go the Jesus route like Ginpen, Michinaga's boyfriend and Keiwa's parents?
Their happiness doesn’t matter because Takahashi doesn’t care about them anymore.
Now Daichi and the Jyamato, their happiest matters! Murderers deserve to be happy more than innocent victims. Great job Geats.
It's a small thing, but Ace using his bike in the episode got me. And was this the first time the main four were actually united in battle?
Overall, I liked the series a lot. Definitely my favorite since Build. The final quarter was pretty frustrating, and I think there were much better ways they could have hit some of the same broad plot beats. But I found the characters endearing, and their growth maybe could have been smoother, but I do think they developed nicely. My expectations for Rider are low enough that the fun stuff helped me overlook the more annoying bits, but I still wish there was a series that was more consistent all the way through.
Some production note from back when Keiwa's sister was revived said "Oh yeah everyone probably got revived", though it's absolutely stupid that they didn't mention that in the show itself if that was the genuine intention.
>Scene of Tycoon, Naago and Buffa all fighting the final boss together >All three of them still struggling even when they lose their powers >Ace actually using his bike in the final fight >The final fight choreography being peak shit with everyone in base forms, stuff like the triple Revolve-On kick and Tycoon activating poison charge for Buffa >Ace becoming a local shrine deity at the end as opposed to an olympian or abrahamic god with infinite god bullshit >All the shrine talismans with everyone's wishes are displayed as we see where the characters are, we can see they don't automatically get them granted like in the DGP, but they're still achieving them/working towards them
This is the first series I've watched all the way through as it airs since getting into KR, and I gotta say Geats finished stronger than I was expecting considering how mid it was getting with stuff like botching Keiwa's villain arc, or all that time spent on Michinaga being a complete shitheel with the Jamato before we got a much more likable version for like the whole second half. The only main complaints I have about the finale is while the execution's great, it kinda feels unearned, especially since Ace just keikaku'd with everything going according to plan like he almost always does, and they fricking reveal that everyone won at the start of the episode, so there are no stakes for the rest of it except about what happens to Ace. Maybe it's just because I've been watching series recommended by others instead of in order, but this was a little weaker overall than the others I've seen. Also you can totally see the writer copying Ex-Aid a whole bunch, especially at the end. Still, some good suits, some good action, and some nice insert songs, so it kept me watching the whole way through.
I really would have liked Ace to have suffered a genuine setback in the show during the show at some point that lasted for even a few episodes.
>And was this the first time the main four were actually united in battle?
I think that was deliberate. In that there was always plot/character related something preventing all four of them from working together. Whether it was Ace being an butthole in Q1 and screwing Keiwa over for the Ninja Buckle, Neon being the Dezastar in Q2 or Buffa working with Beroba in Q3, Keiwa being an edgy butthole in Q4 etc. It's only near the end that these things are removed and there finally a reason for all four of them to finally band together and work together like they are a super sentai.
Neon came out the best out of everyone in this clusterfrick when you think about it. >Michinaga
Not butthurt anymore. >Keiwa
Same as episode 1 but now studying to become a cop. >Neon
Got a future bf and reconciliated with her parents.
I had similar thoughts, but the trailer made it look really REALLY kiddy, even kiddier than Fourze, and not in a good way.
I had barely any knowledge about Gotchard, but after the whole burnout that Revice caused me during Geats, I think I’m skipping a series for the first time.
I really don't feel appealed by Gotchard, and the “cutesy” annoying voice coming from the characterized card completely sealed my opinion.
Gotchard feels way too kiddy, and I can see the cards becoming annoying as frick during the whole run. I don’t need to watch the series to know that there will be an upgrade caused by “sobbing because my card is dying for me”.
Geats was just “eh” as a whole, the ending was fine, but Gochard doesn’t seem promising at all to not be another bad Reiwa series.
great ending IMO
feel good epilogue, positive message, all the characters grew into enacting their wishes instead of just wishing for them
I'm a sucker for the now gone hero watching over humanity type epilogues, but honestly with a show like this where asspulls and zero stakes are built into the rewrite reality premise, happy end for everyone could have wrapped up a lot more lamely than it did
they 'fixed' the GDP (until the inevitable Vcinema of course), led by good people and with no equivalence or price paid, back to just being for the sake of granting happiness
even the gotchard cameo felt well executed
can't believe the B side from the OP single was always meant to be the ending song, I've listened to it so much for months and then it's an insert for the final credits
and now it's time to start over a whole other year of this shit, imagine not loving kamen rider
>can't believe the B side from the OP single was always meant to be the ending song, I've listened to it so much for months and then it's an insert for the final credits
It's the song from the Geats x Revice movie.
>Scene of Tycoon, Naago and Buffa all fighting the final boss together >All three of them still struggling even when they lose their powers >Ace actually using his bike in the final fight >The final fight choreography being peak shit with everyone in base forms, stuff like the triple Revolve-On kick and Tycoon activating poison charge for Buffa >Ace becoming a local shrine deity at the end as opposed to an olympian or abrahamic god with infinite god bullshit >All the shrine talismans with everyone's wishes are displayed as we see where the characters are, we can see they don't automatically get them granted like in the DGP, but they're still achieving them/working towards them
This is the first series I've watched all the way through as it airs since getting into KR, and I gotta say Geats finished stronger than I was expecting considering how mid it was getting with stuff like botching Keiwa's villain arc, or all that time spent on Michinaga being a complete shitheel with the Jamato before we got a much more likable version for like the whole second half. The only main complaints I have about the finale is while the execution's great, it kinda feels unearned, especially since Ace just keikaku'd with everything going according to plan like he almost always does, and they fricking reveal that everyone won at the start of the episode, so there are no stakes for the rest of it except about what happens to Ace. Maybe it's just because I've been watching series recommended by others instead of in order, but this was a little weaker overall than the others I've seen. Also you can totally see the writer copying Ex-Aid a whole bunch, especially at the end. Still, some good suits, some good action, and some nice insert songs, so it kept me watching the whole way through.
Geats had some flaws, some bigger than others, but at the very minimum it was a somewhat consistently entertaining show.
It's not gonna be on my top 3 or anything but I had fun with it overall and even the things I didn't like very much weren't that big that I'll get hung up about it.
Was good enough.
Good enough is how I'd rate it, for sure. There hasn't been a Rider I watched yet that I didn't enjoy. Even if there are bits about a series I don't like, there's always something I like as well.
Geats had its ups and downs and at times it was a real struggle to get through, but overall I'd agree with that it's "good enough." I think the biggest letdown for me was that it was presented with huge potential and never quite delivered the way I was hoping it would. It isn't nearly as bad as people were trying to paint it for a while, there, but it's also not really one I'll be looking back on any time soon.
>I think the biggest letdown for me was that it was presented with huge potential and never quite delivered the way I was hoping it would
I mean I get what you're saying since each new show has to promise that it'll be great, but I think it was also overblown because Revice so bad everyone wanted Geats to be perfect from the get-go
>but I think it was also overblown because Revice so bad everyone wanted Geats to be perfect from the get-go
Geats genuinely stood out on its own with its strong start, we can't just put all the blame on Revice. Personally, I was cautious because of Takahashi's blunder with Zero-One, but the strong impression
left by Geats' first episodes genuinely tricked me into thinking this show was gonna be tight.
>they fricking reveal that everyone won at the start of the episode, so there are no stakes for the rest of it except about what happens to Ace
You mean like how it goes in every show? I don't see how it being "revealed" at the start of the episode changes anything. The heroes in a hero show obviously win. It's just a matter of watching how. Rider has stopped doing perma deaths for a while already. Even Build's much lauded Hazard kill got undone eventually. Same with everyone's memory loss at the end of the main show. Stakes just don't hold
Just because it’s expected doesn’t mean you don’t try. Every other episode Geats pretended the events mattered, why would the finale be any different?
I genuinely don’t know why you even bother to watch this series if you find everything so predictable
Meh, I’d still argue it ended badly. Cool action but the Ace god stuff is pretty dumb, it just deflates any tension or stakes the finale could have.
The ending montage is sweet in concept, but how we got there is so nonsensical I can’t ignore it, or pretend that it’s satisfying.
Final arc was a mess, they wrapped it up as well as they could all things considered but it's a shame the middle/final stretch of the series was such an aimless clusterfrick.
Also it's weird to me that Michinaga's friend wasn't with him, he should've been brought back too right? Glad Kyuun got that little scene at least. Dunno how to feel about the DGP continuing even if it's without all the extraneous bullshit supposedly, can't Ziin just watch boxing or MMA or whatever like a normal person?
>he should have been brought back too
Keiwa revived every dead kamen rider, but because the DGP gave belts to two shithead murderers, the story pretends it was a bad decision and Ace undoes every revival.
The show never acknowledges that Ace basically did a genocide and murdered people like the rider dad or the fireman just to revive Sara. They never answer if they are alive in the current timeline despite that being a big motivation for Keiwa.
>Comes back to help ace >Does it solely since he believes it's the right thing and wants to help ace fix the world despite their past >Gets wiped from existence
We found it. The Rider you can show to anyone.
Not too good to ruin other series you'd actually want to show someone.
Not too bad that the franchise leaves an awful aftertaste.
Not too ridden with references to past Rider that you have to pause and explain (sorry OOO anniversary episodes you don't make it easy)
Much like Kamen Rider Chronicle, The DGP as a game could be one of the most awesome things to ever participate if you take away the whole 'You can actually die' element.
you get to fight monsters, have superpowers AND get a nice-ass prize? sign me the frick in! now, we arent probably gonna know how Ziin's DGP is gonna work, but i do imagine that with the futures magic/tech you can still do a lot of the same shit done in the regular DGP, even without a goddess.
>Ace could have become a deity at any point after absorbing his mom’s powers if he had shot himself or let someone kill him >didn’t for no good reason
Theoretically if Keiwa had chopped him down a couple episodes ago he could have solved everything right there and then.
>Ace finally deletes the desire grand prix and stops the world of being stuck in another endless cycle >Ziin: Hey I want to do another desire grand prix, one that is good this time!
Motherfricker, Ace became a deity specifically to grant wishes without the need of a DGP, and you’re here wasting all that to start the cycle again. That line could have been cut entirely.
The DGP is not a bad idea. its problem from day one was the corrupt people behind it and its dependence of using a system that uses the happiness of people as a catalyst to make it work.
taking the goddess, the death and the happiness extraction element from the equation would make the DGP no more different from your average game show. the difference here, is that the DGP would have access to the future tech, that while not as powerful as the goddess power, im sure it can still help make a kickass game and still help fulfill the wishes of people without fricking over innocents like the original did.
>no more different from your average game show
Game shows by nature are predatory, they all involve making people go through painful or embarrassing things to get a cheap price with only one possible winner. The DGP has already proven to not be trustworthy due to the psychopaths in charge, overpowered tech that's deadly dangerous and is easily exploitable by sponsors and players.
Even if you wanted to make a perfect clean DGP, you're still putting people with individual wishes against each other, and sooner or later someone will do something horrible to get his way.
Her “true love” was her abusive parents decide they don’t wanna be abusive anymore. Her “prince charming” is an irrelevant simp who came at the last minute after she already sorted her shit out.
>your wish will come true if you believe them enough
Considering most of the dreams they pinned down were either very achievable dreams or superficial stuff, no shit. Keiwa was the only one who wrote something you actually have to work hard for.
Daichi was a silly character but I liked how they ended his story. Then I looked up the preview for the V-Cinema >In the film, the Riders make their final assault against the ever-growing Jyamato, hoping to discover the secrets of their existence and return peace to the world.
Daichi what the frick man?
two things I liked from geats is how they committed to the rule thing at the end of every single episode, and how they actually went with a lot of DGP/offshoot games from start to finish, instead of just abandoning the concept half way through, no matter how much I wish they did abandon it once chirami came and went
I want "Saber was good." trolls to leave right now. The show literally had no plot until its last arc. The bad guys sat in a room watching a disembodied hand write. Then COVID got manageable enough for them to actually do things and they quickly scraped something together.
On the other hand, I also want Kamen Rider to stop wrapping up the plot with four months left to go and then pulling something out of their ass. Bad George was one of the worst plots in recent memory. Geats' ending got OK but it struggled with them wrapping up the story after they introduced the final form and then having like four months of it. At least we got Keiwa's Black Shogun form which looked cool.
>and later redeemed itself until the end
Saber didn't do that, it started shit and got a bit better by the end but was never that good. Didn't get as bad as late Revice but never even got as good as early Revice either honestly.
Saber was terrible but it's perceived quality is higher for some people because it started like the worst garbage ever and then got better.
It never got good, but humans perceive the quality of something in the form
#enjoyment - #exectedEnjoyment
Once the expectations are down on the bottom, one can enjoy even trash.
>#enjoyment - #exectedEnjoyment >Once the expectations are down on the bottom, one can enjoy even trash.
This was why people loved Geats Q1 after Revice
Saber is liked now because every other Reiwa show aimed for the stars and fell down high, while Saber stayed what it always was with no subversion or cynicism, which is what people remember fondly compared to Revice's slop and Takahashi's hack writing. It does stand out for being next to trash, but it doesn't mean its as bad as the others.
>The show literally had no plot until its last arc
How did you miss Saber's plot when it's the easiest to digest story out of all the Reiwa series and even compared to the last few Heisei series too?
>and later redeemed itself until the end
Saber didn't do that, it started shit and got a bit better by the end but was never that good. Didn't get as bad as late Revice but never even got as good as early Revice either honestly.
>good as early Revice
I still don't understand the boner for early Revice when everything I watched (and when I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING) besides Ikki's and Daiji's dynamic and Demon's debut was utter trash.
>boner for early Revice
it wasn't anything amazing, was alright and a lot better than what happened in the show later. All I said was that it was better than Saber in general
>was alright and a lot better than what happened in the show later. >All I said was that it was better than Saber in general
And you'd be completely dead wrong. It was objectively mostly fricking dogshit with two or three redeeming qualities. The fact that your opinion can even exist, and is one of the more common ones about the show, baffles me to no end.
Overall I enjoyed Geats but the enjoyment massively took a nosedive since Ace go creation powers.
I am also generally unsure about his "making happiness unbounded" and "people getting their wishes as long as they desire them".
If happiness is unbounded then Keiwa's previous wish for the dead to be revived wouldn't be an issue anymore.
Also we see Keiwa working towards becoming a police officer to further is his dream of world peace.
That's vastly different than just wishing for it.
I thought the very obvious point was that you had to both wish for something and work towards it to make it happen. You simply can't do one or the other.
>Ex-Aid >01 >Geats >all started off strong and then become a bore fest in second half
It's your fault if you believe thing will be different this time.
no
it's not even as yuribait-y as most Precure seasons.
>Is this the first Takahashi show where the current threat is 100% gone and has no hints of coming back? I remember the Bugster virus and Ark still being around.
The V-Cinema trailer showcases the Jyamato threatening the world, Beroba, and Niramu, so no.
I mean in the show itself, from what I remember the last episodes of Ex-Aid and Zero-One explicitly show that their respective threats are still around.
>FRICK WE FORGOT THAT ACE PLANS FOR EVERYTHING JUST SAY HE PLANNED TO BE A DEITY THIS WHOLE TIME AND SOMEHOW PLANNED AROUND EVIL KEIWA AND THEN TURNING HIM BACK
>Keiwa failed on his wish of bringing but every dead rider
I would have been okay with this if the series acknowledged some deaths can't be stopped and you have to move on with your life, but the final message is that EVERYONE can be happy no matter what, and multiple deaths were undone, so clearly the point isn't to let others stay dead. So ignoring all the deceased riders in the bright and happy finale, not confirming if they survived or not while giving happy endings to characters like Buffa, Sparrow, and the fricking Jyamato, who were all responsible for ruining lives, is incredibly hypocritical and tone-deaf. Clearly, not everyone gets to be happy since a bunch of good people stayed dead.
I bet they'll say on some website that everyone who died totally revived off-screen, but if it's not in the show then it's bullshit.
>especially when Writer-san had the balls to say everyone who was converted to data was effectively dead in Ex-Aid
He didn't, Ex-Aid ends with the CR promising to find a way to bring them back, and Another Ending has them making progress thanks to Kuroto's God Maximum Mighty Gashat. Hiiro's even planning to propose to Saki once she's brought back according to the novel.
>if the series acknowledged some deaths can't be stopped and you have to move on with your life
They kinda did with Michinaga accepting his friend is gone. Though to be fair Keiwa was the only one that cared about bringing people back
>especially when Writer-san had the balls to say everyone who was converted to data was effectively dead in Ex-Aid
He didn't, Ex-Aid ends with the CR promising to find a way to bring them back, and Another Ending has them making progress thanks to Kuroto's God Maximum Mighty Gashat. Hiiro's even planning to propose to Saki once she's brought back according to the novel.
>I thought Masamune deleted her?
She was able to be restored temporarily thanks to his Reset, as shown in the V-Cins. Also, her data should be as "lost" as that of the other victims stored inside the Chronicle Gashat that Masamune destroyed when he was dying, and Kuroto was capable of bringing back some of those victims in his zombie game as well as Masamune during the V-Cins.
it's fine, cause not everyone that's dead is a good person and better if they stay dead and in hell
The people Keiwa wanted to say were not evil people who deserved to stay dead
>if the series acknowledged some deaths can't be stopped and you have to move on with your life
They kinda did with Michinaga accepting his friend is gone. Though to be fair Keiwa was the only one that cared about bringing people back
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I thought Masamune deleted her?
>Keiwa was the only one that cared about bringing people back
The final episodes of the show are all about everyone teaming up to revive Sara so Keiwa stops being a psycho butthole.
Is Geats set in the main rider world or its on its own? And if Ace said that people can wish for happiness, then why Gotchard gotta face conflict trying to get all the Chemmies?
Ace isn't an abrahamic deity by the end of it dude, he's just a local japanese shrine god, there's hundreds of those. He's not omnipotent anymore, he just made a "fair" world where you can struggle towards your wish.
Whoever's bright idea it was to have the finale fight of a rider show take place in the same warehouse that every other show has filmed in (to my knowledge) is out of his mind.
The atmosphere got entirely drained.
I don't even like Geats that much, you're the one complaining about filming locations in modern Toku where they only have a handful of places they film.
Anon has a point in that the warehouse was a poor choice for the final fight, especially for a show like Geats. It being the place of two previous, lesser fights in the show doesn't help either.
They needed a location that they could, one set off explosions
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and two ride the bikes on
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. The warehouse is one of the few private locations that they could do that in, they only other place would be the quarry or mountain and every other finale takes place in the quarry or mountain.
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>they only other place would be the quarry or mountain and every other finale takes place in the quarry or mountain
That's preferable to the inelegant rundowm warehouse imo.
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That would have cost more money sending everyone and the crew and as we all know Geats is a budget season.
I don't even like Geats that much, you're the one complaining about filming locations in modern Toku where they only have a handful of places they film.
What are your farewell messages to Geats' cast?
I love them all.
I'm gonna miss the Birthday Glasses
I will miss them. Kan and his glasses especially.
Good characters in a meh story
I’ll remember you fondly as you were before the final arc. What you became after that, not so much. You all deserved better.
Saber > Geats > Zero One > Revice
>saber at the top
bro just watch sentai. this shit isn't made for you. I mean i guess it might be. Gotchard looks kiddy as hell and has that awful cg shit.
The others are all Sentais too except maybe Zero-One. Just without the colored suits.
>The others
Both Saber and Geats ended with the main characters resolving everything thanks to the pure magic of belief and happiness, with the entire cast living happily ever after. So did Revice and Zero-One let terrorists go free. By those estimates, all Reiwa shows are "sentai". Go frick yourself.
Saber>Revice>Geats>>>>Zero-One
I notice all these endings have a main character who “perished” come back or still be present in spirit. Wish they stopped doing that.
Well. That was a an overpowered protag light novel disguised as a Kamen Rider series and ultimately it was just kinda meh. Geats had some really interesting ideas like just how ANYONE could get dragged into the DGP, the hotswapping buckles and the overall metanarrative around viewers and tragedy but they all ended up either pushed to the wayside or just didn't get used well enough.
Revice > Zero-One > Geats > Saber
I know Revice gets shit on but the entire exchange at the end where you can tell it's just Ikki's long goodbye kills me inside. Revice had a rough third leg but damn it, I love that group of morons so much.
Saber, Revice, and Geats all made me cry, so they're all good in my book
To no one's surprised, easiest Saber win.
Saber > Zero One > Geats = Revice
Feels like they wasted an entire year on this slop.
Should have been in the show.
Kinda got burnt out on the last 3~4 episodes, but solid overall; fantastic first half for the most part. Anyways, what did he do again to undo his god chains/petrification? Why did he need to die to become a full god (if he wasn't already)?
I liked Geats overall
Geats = Saber > Zero-One > Revice
https://twitter.com/krGEATS_toei/status/1695602207465549960
Goodbye, Geats. Your show is more fun than Revice.
the bar is on the floor. with that statement.
Wizard was a lot better than Revice.
Ghost might even be better than Revice. would need to rewatch to be sure but if memory serves at least the characters in ghost were entertaining enough to make up for shortcomings more than those in Revice.
Geats was not just better than revice. This was a lot better than Rider has been in a long while. We're not getting another season like this for a long while lads. Strap yourselves the frick in.
You're not allowed to say that
>Geats was not just better than revice. This was a lot better than Rider has been in a long while. We're not getting another season like this for a long while lads. Strap yourselves the frick in
Pfffft hahahaha
You respond like a child and it lets everyone know not to pay attention to your taste or opinion.
You look that way too seriously, are you autistic or something?
>so flustered he can't even type properly
Oh wow, that single typo sure rustled your autistic jimmies.
>[somethingsomething] lads
Never fails to be a moronic or meaningless statement with that formatting
was ben and john part of seal team six?
>I didn't even do anything!
I'm confused, so Ace remade the world again. Presumably this time they don't have DGP or kamen rider. So nobody should remember shit from the previous world right? since there's no ID core to touch.
Then what's up with jamato still being around and futuregays showing up?
And what continuity is this? are all the dead people from the last DGP back as well?
Ace's world, Ace's rules. He probably just made exceptions for a few. Same with the future people, he erased the entire DGP management team specifically, not all the future people, hence Kyuun and Ziin are still around and free to visit. It also seems to be implied that everyone's forgotten him sans his closest allies/friends, given Keiwa still has his ID core. So presumably Michinaga and Neon also have theirs.
That would simplify things so that the trio still have their memories intact for the winter crossover movie/V-Cinema.
The first time Ace remade the world with his powers, he made it so that everyone kept their memories of past events, they didn't need to touch ID Cores to regain them. Presumably he did the same thing in this new world.
Also, there's no time resets when a new world is made, despite what you think.
>And what continuity is this? are all the dead people from the last DGP back as well?
I assume not everyone. At the very least we can assume Keiwa and Sara's parents are still dead.
the look of a man ready to move on finally
Suel and Sama still alive, in the Future. Think Kang Return deal.
eh? weren't they killed by Geats in the episode?
fake bodies or avatars
It's been well-established by now that future people who come back to the past are in actual physical danger by doing so. The show's been very consistent about this.
Suel outright panics when he starts disappearing and we see the gate to the future/other dimension is closed, so nah, they're goners. It's kinda like the grandfather paradox, I think.
They were still in the past when the world got remade.
They're fricking dead. Suel is double dead because Ace not-possessed his body.
Why the frick do you think the woman was having a meltdown over not being able to go back?
Yeah I like Geats and Saber. Go get your pitchfork out.
people who like good things are still allowed to like bad things. saber did have 2 whole good scenes.
People who like good things are still allowed to like bad things. Geats did have... umm, uhhhh...
Geats had good things like Neon
I understand. Coming up with complaints for geats is pretty difficult.
>Coming up with complaints for geats is pretty difficult
It's the easiest thing in the world, so much so that the last 14~ episode threads were filled with them. Now, coming up with reasons why it's good, on the other hand...
>implying /krg/ has taste
Geats had Tom Constantine, which made it great. I hope he gets a V-Cinema.
>gaijin
>V-Cinema
As a jobber bad guy maybe
Saber was a much better Sentai than Donbrothers so i understand why you would like it.
I like all Riders, albeit to varying degrees.
Was this where they showed the sponsor message?
Yeah
I still need to catch up on a whole bunch of episodes, but are they doing the thing like Realizing Hopper or Wonder Almighty? I actually liked that and was hoping it would be the Reiwa trend, but Revice fricked it up like it does everything
Nope. He changes to his final form for the final finisher
The driver just add new sound instead of using new power up.
"READY FIGHT - FOR DESIRE"
so i might start a new character in baldurs gate 3 who is a bard named Neon. the real question is what do I subclass after starting bard? or do I at all? Rogue shit for cat-like? maybe more wizard shit for Fantasy?
Bards can already cast shit, just stick with Bard.
Geats is definitely a success in Bandai & Toei's eyes
/krg/ hasn't had good or valid opinions in a long time. Certainly not any that would matter to Toei at any rate
Keep coping.
I mean you are rn so?
I'm not, because I don't pick my opinions on stuff based on whether it's popular or not, but rather on my own personal experience with it.
You're only bringing up the fact that it's popular to cope because you can't handle others here disliking it for what it is, you
use it as a way to reassure yourselves that the show's good because genuine negative opinions bother you that much. Spend your time crafting actual arguments to praise the show with instead, that's what a good Geatsfrens are like, not the sorry excuses that have been plaguing these threads for months now.
I never brought up that it was popular? wtf im neither of the anons you were quonting lmao.
you're just assuming Im another anon. figures.small brain behavior for small brain tastes.
Maybe try to not butt into conversations if you don't wanna get mistaken for others then. This is an anonymous board, moron.
maybe try to keep up and actually have a point outside of "muh popularity". this is an openly available message board, small brain.
>maybe try to keep up and actually have a point outside of "muh popularity"
That's the argument of the people I was replying to, you mouthbreathing moron. Take your own fricking advice and learn to follow conversations, you waste of air.
Samegay?
nope. its just easy to see you're the only guy here crying about this shit.
Stop posting those garbage wojaks and give me a screencap, moron.
>stop
>literally the only one
Aint even him that's just bad form, anon.
>I don't pick my opinions on stuff based on whether it's popular or not, but rather on my own personal experience with it.
And why is somebody else "coping" for liking something you don't like? What are they coping with? Success is the only objective metric you can tell anybody to "cope" over.
>And why is somebody else "coping" for liking something you don't like?
The issue isn't that they like Geats (I personally think it's meh), the issue is that they're coping with non-arguments such as the desperate "b-but everybody else likes it, the people here have shit opinions". I hate when people pull the garbage non-argument of popular=good, even for things I do like, it reeks of desperation to prove something without putting actual effort to argue why.
Incorrect.
Thank you friend. It was a good time.
So.
Uh.
What was Geats' message?
strive for what you beleive in.
you can do whatever you dream of in life but it comes at the cost of the work you put into it? did you even watch it?
>you can do whatever you dream of in life but it comes at the cost of the work you put into it
oh this is why /krg/ hates geats. this place is full of neets I forgot.
That is indeed the message, but when the world is saved just because your best friend conveniently became a god who you can now pray to, the message becomes convoluted. The day isn’t saved thanks to the hard work of people who’s desire pushed them to the limit, it’s saved because god was our pal. The message is good but the way you get to it is moronic.
this is copium from a NEET loser that takes the message too literally
it doesn't matter if Ace became a god, everyone had to suffer and put in the work and grind to get to where they end up regardless
To discard that shows that you're weka and you're ngmi
Ace-sama would be disappointed
Here's the thing: there was no other possible way for the fight to be resolved:
>Suel had the superior firepower, downright stronger.
>He basically was toying with the trio
>why? because he can reverse their personal time to a point before them getting powers, therefore they would never be able to do anything.
Ace appearing was him recognizing sincerely the trio's resolve to stop him, because otherwise they would NEVER have stop him... unless of course they own resolve gave them their powers back, but can you really say THAT would not be an asspull if that were the case?
tldr: Ace had to step in in one way or another, or else there wouldnt be an ending, or the ending would be just stupid...
It literally in one of Ace's final lines in this very episode.
You can always achieve happiness and your Ideal world as long as you fight for it. Also Ukiyo Ace is our God and master
ganbare
>READY FIGHT FOR DESIRE
Didn't you hear what the buckle said?
"You don't have to be a Kamen Rider to make your wish come true as long as you're willing to fight for it." And "Desires give humanity strength."
Have faith in Geatsus.
To become a god you first must be shot by your waifu.
Do what you must, even if you have to screw over others and yourself.
What did you think of Ace's Outfits?
Pretty good on the whole. I'm a sucker for long coats
>ZOMBIE BEAT NINJA
HOW CAN KEIWA RECOVER!!!
wait wait, so sueru identity is ace from the future or what, i dont understand
Ace fricked him in the ass so he can actually died this time
Wait, grigori is erased too?
He stayed in the past as the world was remade so he should have, yes.
Only Tsumuri got Ace bias.
Its weird how there was no greater evil or some monsters or anything here as the main villains.
Just some buttholes from the future with super technology fricking with people from the past for funsies. It's crazy how it took someone becoming a Kami to finally be able to make them frick off. And even so there's still plenty of buttholes in the future still like the ones Neon and Timefire managed to scare off, and people can still come and go as they will too.
Feels like things changed for the better but also not all too.
Am I the one with a mixed feeling like this?
Not really? The whole point of all of this was to first and foremost, stop the invisible hand of the DGP/future from puppeting the outcomes can have in the world. There's a reason why they keep emphasing that the new world is one where everyone CAN be happy (not "will")
No you're not alone. I dont hate geats at all, but after the reveal when future people got involved, my mind suddenly goes the real enemy is gonna be the future organization.
But nah, it's all just suel wanking the future audience which were not very clear need to be taken down or not.
wait for vcinema for the answer
Any word of advice or support you want to give to the next protagonist?
Geats was fun. I dont know why but Tsumuri has grown on me, I guess she kinda has an unique voice doesnt she
>I guess she kinda has an unique voice doesnt she
Yup. I loved her voice. Soft and soothing.
Plus she's got a top notch design.
So how did Ace suddenly become a god without any drawback? I thought if he were to become a god, he would turn into that statue form with no will.
He wished for it really hard
That's god in future people/DGP terms. Ace basically became the equivalent of one of those local Japanese deities. Hence why he's got his own little temple shrine now
that is something that is just not going to be friendly to western audiences without the context of there are like way too many japanese gods and they all have a bunch of temples.
Who gives a shit about gaijins.
This moron
Kys, homosexual.
you first waste of air 🙂
oh that makes sense, the onegay crying about the show.
Still doesn't made any sense, he's already a god when his mother died. And then become one, again, when tsumuri transfer her pussy juice to ace. So what is the difference?
Double God + Telling Suel to frick off happy ends > bad ends = audience becoming hopegays = more fuel for him to truly ascend
He gained the creation powers, but in a mortal shell, physically speaking. Tsumuri juice turned him into a god proper, but that came with getting statue-fied so he rejected that, turning back into a mortal with creation powers (which Suel exploited last episode).
In this episode he basically took the route of turning into a Japanese deity (which by folklore, can come about from basically anything that embodies enough belief/ideas/etc). It's hard to explain.
Just say all of it were done by literal magic. No need to complicate the thing.
He basically just a Ghost wandering around. Everyone forgot about him except for his comrades.
Takahashi says you have to watch the Final Stage to get the answers surrounding Ace's current state.
Ha ha go frick yourself Takahashi
They keep putting too much cool stuff in the final stages. True Device, Bahumet
Buffa's wish
I mean look at this man. More food will be good for him
>All his life he wished for really violent and out-there things
>Now his final wish is very down to earth and simplistic
I loved this so much.
Screw that murderer, he doesn’t deserve shit and this show is a coward for acting like he’s a good guy
Michinaga's wish should've been to build the landmark Toru wanted in his hometown, as a way to honor his memory and turn his past trauma around.
Brought to you by my autism.
Nice
>Putting Archiemedal tasting Buffa
Kek based. Nice work anon
Nah, everyone from the future not died just fricked off to their own time.
We see in vcinext preview beroba is already back when it's clear michinaga defeated her.
So clearly, that is not a killing blow. Same with ace and suel.
We'll have to wait and see how the "dead" future people come back in the V-Cinema. They said that future people that stay in the present during a Grand End are supposed to disappear and die, otherwise there would no point in them going through the gate to the future.
Is this the first Takahashi show where the current threat is 100% gone and has no hints of coming back? I remember the Bugster virus and Ark still being around. Anyway, good shit. I'll miss him so much.
They're basically artificial humans so couldn't they just be remade again?
>Is this the first Takahashi show where the current threat is 100% gone and has no hints of coming back? I remember the Bugster virus and Ark still being around.
The V-Cinema trailer showcases the Jyamato threatening the world, Beroba, and Niramu, so no.
The Future buttholes can always come back. They're still doing DGPs, so all it takes is one bad apple to take it over.
Oh no not... Suel! Not the final boss who is basically still a literal who!
I still don't get how Suel had to much hax.
we dont even know his real identity, geats sucks coz it still leaves so much of its plotline
I mean, I sure could have used a few more explanations about how the futureshit truly works, but does Suel really need a real identity? He's just the top powetripping butthole who runs the show who's got his head so up his ass he doesn't see anyone or anything but as mediums for edgelord funsies.
Well, making him a mysterious masked character meant some people would expect something to be under that mask, like what happened with PunkJack and the Game Masters. But in the end it was just done so we could have a cheap shock scene in this episode with Ace reappearing with his clothes.
Ever since his first appearance i had theorized he was Ace from a bad future where he abused his god powers and lost all of his ideals.
That theory is now down the drain but it was fun speculating about Suel's identity.
I never got why people liked this theory, it reminds me too much of the dumb twist in the final chapter of Attack on Titan
I blame the movie being about four Aces and the entire reincarnation idea. Like X00 Aces later and he ends up running the DGP and going back in time to be an evil bastard to timeloop events
I get that but you think people would've realized
>wait he killed his own mother? That's stupid
What is your judgment on Yuya Takahashi now?
Fine. He's got his weaknesses, but his shows always entertain me well enough at the end of the day
>01
>ex-aid
>Amazons movie
>buncha Lupin shit
pretty good.
He wrote lupin ranger?
No. Lupin the 3rd movies.
He peaked with Ex-Aid.
He at takes very interesting set-ups and uses them to produce underwhelming material
He is strong on concepts but weak on character writing. His weakness can be saved by a good enough actor (Dan largely came about cause his performance was so over the top), but if they're even just okay it can feel like they've got very little to work with. Geats suffers from no one really pushing the material they were given further, Ace especially didn't reach the smug peaks he needed. I kinda wonder what would happen if he had a smaller cast to work with. It would help with his tendency to side line characters but he never does much with non-riders anyway.
He clearly learns from what worked and what didn't in each of his shows, Geats feels like what Zero-One would've been like if he had more creative freedom and the Covid break didn't happen
Geats is his best work and it went to shit in the last set of episodes, he’s among the worst rider writers ever
Ex-Aid is my favorite season but I thought Geats ended up just alright. I haven't seen Zero-One so I guess that'll be the tiebreaker but my hopes aren't very high for that turning out well.
Never come back please
Nips disagree with you, in fact you don't need to touch rider ever again. You kind is never the target audience. Just watch power ranger instead.
You say as if I'm not at the verge of dropping it again
Get new material, almost all of the plot points in Geats were reused from Ex-Aid
Either he's bored of Rider or executives are making him do dumb things with all the NEW TOYS they need to sell.
I always looked forward to a new episode of Ex-Aid or Zero-One, but I had no anticipation for the next episode in Geats after the first 5 episodes or so.
It has been clear since early Geats that Ex-aid was a fluke and that he can't write for shit.
not bad, but ex-aid was really fricking good and I'm still waiting for something around that level again
>Daichi has a wish of wanting humans and Jyamato to live together at the end
>V-Cinext teases the idea of the true nature of Jyamato
Why even bother making a wish?
I was glad he got a fairly happy end
Should've been Archimedel.
he had his happy ending. he was just that into vore.
I like Geats, it's good.
You have what it takes to be happy, everyone
What about all the people that died unfairly before Ace decided to go the Jesus route like Ginpen, Michinaga's boyfriend and Keiwa's parents?
Gone, literally no explanation.
Unless they going ex-aid vcins route, which will be revealed later on..
Technically they can wish for that but cramming all that stuff in a final is gonna fricked up the pacing even harder.
Oh, and Michinaga's countless innocent victims too.
fairly certain they're back. Keiwa has at least wished everyone the DGP killed back. just because his family was killed you shouldn't assume the rest of them were.
That world got reversed though.
Their happiness doesn’t matter because Takahashi doesn’t care about them anymore.
Now Daichi and the Jyamato, their happiest matters! Murderers deserve to be happy more than innocent victims. Great job Geats.
Who did Daichi murder
It's a small thing, but Ace using his bike in the episode got me. And was this the first time the main four were actually united in battle?
Overall, I liked the series a lot. Definitely my favorite since Build. The final quarter was pretty frustrating, and I think there were much better ways they could have hit some of the same broad plot beats. But I found the characters endearing, and their growth maybe could have been smoother, but I do think they developed nicely. My expectations for Rider are low enough that the fun stuff helped me overlook the more annoying bits, but I still wish there was a series that was more consistent all the way through.
Some production note from back when Keiwa's sister was revived said "Oh yeah everyone probably got revived", though it's absolutely stupid that they didn't mention that in the show itself if that was the genuine intention.
I really would have liked Ace to have suffered a genuine setback in the show during the show at some point that lasted for even a few episodes.
>was this the first time the main four were actually united in battle
Didn't Faiz and Ex Aid do this also? Been a while since I've watched either so I could be wrong
I think he might be talking about the main quartet of Geats fighting together specifically. Also, 555 only has 3 Riders in the show.
>And was this the first time the main four were actually united in battle?
I think that was deliberate. In that there was always plot/character related something preventing all four of them from working together. Whether it was Ace being an butthole in Q1 and screwing Keiwa over for the Ninja Buckle, Neon being the Dezastar in Q2 or Buffa working with Beroba in Q3, Keiwa being an edgy butthole in Q4 etc. It's only near the end that these things are removed and there finally a reason for all four of them to finally band together and work together like they are a super sentai.
Hey as long as we all agree the final stretch was worse than the rest, we're all good
They really did make Kyuun/Neon canon didn't they. Holy shit Keiwa got fricked hard
headcannon
Neon came out the best out of everyone in this clusterfrick when you think about it.
>Michinaga
Not butthurt anymore.
>Keiwa
Same as episode 1 but now studying to become a cop.
>Neon
Got a future bf and reconciliated with her parents.
Thinking about the effort she put in versus the quality of the wish she got it really draws home how good she good it.
THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MY WISH
Gotchard seems to go for the Fourze route of going to high school
I had similar thoughts, but the trailer made it look really REALLY kiddy, even kiddier than Fourze, and not in a good way.
>even kiddier than Fourze, and not in a good way.
revice 2!!
I had barely any knowledge about Gotchard, but after the whole burnout that Revice caused me during Geats, I think I’m skipping a series for the first time.
I really don't feel appealed by Gotchard, and the “cutesy” annoying voice coming from the characterized card completely sealed my opinion.
Gotchard feels way too kiddy, and I can see the cards becoming annoying as frick during the whole run. I don’t need to watch the series to know that there will be an upgrade caused by “sobbing because my card is dying for me”.
Geats was just “eh” as a whole, the ending was fine, but Gochard doesn’t seem promising at all to not be another bad Reiwa series.
>another time final boss rider in a game chronicle for a wish setting
Have they ran out of idea for a final boss?
great ending IMO
feel good epilogue, positive message, all the characters grew into enacting their wishes instead of just wishing for them
I'm a sucker for the now gone hero watching over humanity type epilogues, but honestly with a show like this where asspulls and zero stakes are built into the rewrite reality premise, happy end for everyone could have wrapped up a lot more lamely than it did
they 'fixed' the GDP (until the inevitable Vcinema of course), led by good people and with no equivalence or price paid, back to just being for the sake of granting happiness
even the gotchard cameo felt well executed
can't believe the B side from the OP single was always meant to be the ending song, I've listened to it so much for months and then it's an insert for the final credits
and now it's time to start over a whole other year of this shit, imagine not loving kamen rider
>can't believe the B side from the OP single was always meant to be the ending song, I've listened to it so much for months and then it's an insert for the final credits
It's the song from the Geats x Revice movie.
I'm not gonna lie.
I feel kind of wienerblocked that the dudes who killed Michinaga's bff never returned nor were relevant.
Fricking this. I've waited all this time for them to pop up but they never did.
How is this warehouse even still standing in the year of Our Lord Geats 2023? They blew it up in like every episode of Winspector in the 90s.
Geats is invincible right? Where's the thrill in that.
Just fricking believe bro, there is no space left for any type of logic.
Kouta became Fruit Jesus and he still got buttfricked many times by new randoms.
When will people learn that powerlevels ain't shit in Kamen Rider?
Every rider in existence have been nerf hard in post show contents.
>Being this much of a newbie.
I swear people don't actually watch Kamen Rider
bros...
Beroba got her happy end too... right...
In the end, she got to experience true despair. Her own.
yeah she fricking orgasmed and died
>Scene of Tycoon, Naago and Buffa all fighting the final boss together
>All three of them still struggling even when they lose their powers
>Ace actually using his bike in the final fight
>The final fight choreography being peak shit with everyone in base forms, stuff like the triple Revolve-On kick and Tycoon activating poison charge for Buffa
>Ace becoming a local shrine deity at the end as opposed to an olympian or abrahamic god with infinite god bullshit
>All the shrine talismans with everyone's wishes are displayed as we see where the characters are, we can see they don't automatically get them granted like in the DGP, but they're still achieving them/working towards them
This is the first series I've watched all the way through as it airs since getting into KR, and I gotta say Geats finished stronger than I was expecting considering how mid it was getting with stuff like botching Keiwa's villain arc, or all that time spent on Michinaga being a complete shitheel with the Jamato before we got a much more likable version for like the whole second half. The only main complaints I have about the finale is while the execution's great, it kinda feels unearned, especially since Ace just keikaku'd with everything going according to plan like he almost always does, and they fricking reveal that everyone won at the start of the episode, so there are no stakes for the rest of it except about what happens to Ace. Maybe it's just because I've been watching series recommended by others instead of in order, but this was a little weaker overall than the others I've seen. Also you can totally see the writer copying Ex-Aid a whole bunch, especially at the end. Still, some good suits, some good action, and some nice insert songs, so it kept me watching the whole way through.
Geats had some flaws, some bigger than others, but at the very minimum it was a somewhat consistently entertaining show.
It's not gonna be on my top 3 or anything but I had fun with it overall and even the things I didn't like very much weren't that big that I'll get hung up about it.
Was good enough.
Good enough is how I'd rate it, for sure. There hasn't been a Rider I watched yet that I didn't enjoy. Even if there are bits about a series I don't like, there's always something I like as well.
Geats had its ups and downs and at times it was a real struggle to get through, but overall I'd agree with that it's "good enough." I think the biggest letdown for me was that it was presented with huge potential and never quite delivered the way I was hoping it would. It isn't nearly as bad as people were trying to paint it for a while, there, but it's also not really one I'll be looking back on any time soon.
>I think the biggest letdown for me was that it was presented with huge potential and never quite delivered the way I was hoping it would
I mean I get what you're saying since each new show has to promise that it'll be great, but I think it was also overblown because Revice so bad everyone wanted Geats to be perfect from the get-go
>but I think it was also overblown because Revice so bad everyone wanted Geats to be perfect from the get-go
Geats genuinely stood out on its own with its strong start, we can't just put all the blame on Revice. Personally, I was cautious because of Takahashi's blunder with Zero-One, but the strong impression
left by Geats' first episodes genuinely tricked me into thinking this show was gonna be tight.
>Ace just keikaku'd with everything going according to plan like he almost always does
I see no problem with this
I do, unlike like Tendou, Ace has no charisma. Also, it's Kagami who saves the day in the final fight of Kabuto.
Ace doesn't have a concrete plan ever since he start screaming for his mother.
What the hell are you talking about?
>Ace doesn't have a concrete plan
He did, It involved him becoming concrete even.
>they fricking reveal that everyone won at the start of the episode, so there are no stakes for the rest of it except about what happens to Ace
You mean like how it goes in every show? I don't see how it being "revealed" at the start of the episode changes anything. The heroes in a hero show obviously win. It's just a matter of watching how. Rider has stopped doing perma deaths for a while already. Even Build's much lauded Hazard kill got undone eventually. Same with everyone's memory loss at the end of the main show. Stakes just don't hold
Just because it’s expected doesn’t mean you don’t try. Every other episode Geats pretended the events mattered, why would the finale be any different?
I genuinely don’t know why you even bother to watch this series if you find everything so predictable
Meh, I’d still argue it ended badly. Cool action but the Ace god stuff is pretty dumb, it just deflates any tension or stakes the finale could have.
The ending montage is sweet in concept, but how we got there is so nonsensical I can’t ignore it, or pretend that it’s satisfying.
Final arc was a mess, they wrapped it up as well as they could all things considered but it's a shame the middle/final stretch of the series was such an aimless clusterfrick.
Also it's weird to me that Michinaga's friend wasn't with him, he should've been brought back too right? Glad Kyuun got that little scene at least. Dunno how to feel about the DGP continuing even if it's without all the extraneous bullshit supposedly, can't Ziin just watch boxing or MMA or whatever like a normal person?
>he should have been brought back too
Keiwa revived every dead kamen rider, but because the DGP gave belts to two shithead murderers, the story pretends it was a bad decision and Ace undoes every revival.
The show never acknowledges that Ace basically did a genocide and murdered people like the rider dad or the fireman just to revive Sara. They never answer if they are alive in the current timeline despite that being a big motivation for Keiwa.
FOX GOD
>Comes back to help ace
>Does it solely since he believes it's the right thing and wants to help ace fix the world despite their past
>Gets wiped from existence
Dunno if it's just his actor or if it was direction he was doing intentionally/as told but Giroly looked so tired these past couple episodes.
He's just a cuck (affectionate) honestly, like he's willing to get deleted if it means the audience is happy
Good Riddance.
What do people like about Geats, everyone's sucking it off but since episode one I've been like, "This it?"
Geats really ended up being peak mediocre rider. A solid 5/10 with no redeeming qualities.
We found it. The Rider you can show to anyone.
Not too good to ruin other series you'd actually want to show someone.
Not too bad that the franchise leaves an awful aftertaste.
Not too ridden with references to past Rider that you have to pause and explain (sorry OOO anniversary episodes you don't make it easy)
The duality of man
This was possibly my favourite finale in all of Rider because of all the weird spiritual theming. Reminded me of Madoka a lot.
>Geats become deity and block off the Future People
>Happy ending
>SUDDENLY Vcinema have him being taken over and Beroba is back
I'm going to guess its another case of The victim of DGP have come to collect the debt, like Sabore...
wat? it's just like 01 in case you didn't know
wait, so buffa is going to die?
I miss Niram so much.
My favorite character, he deserved better.
Niram and Jitt were way better than Chiramu who stuck around for what felt like ages for some reason
stop taking after your mother Ace
Glad to see him again, was kinda worried that he basically disappeared after 38
Much like Kamen Rider Chronicle, The DGP as a game could be one of the most awesome things to ever participate if you take away the whole 'You can actually die' element.
you get to fight monsters, have superpowers AND get a nice-ass prize? sign me the frick in! now, we arent probably gonna know how Ziin's DGP is gonna work, but i do imagine that with the futures magic/tech you can still do a lot of the same shit done in the regular DGP, even without a goddess.
>Ziin's DGP
The realism group will be seething sadly
This had to be one of the most boring finales so far
>Ace could have become a deity at any point after absorbing his mom’s powers if he had shot himself or let someone kill him
>didn’t for no good reason
Theoretically if Keiwa had chopped him down a couple episodes ago he could have solved everything right there and then.
Ace isn't as powerful as his mom only after he absorb tsumuri power that he finally became a God.
suicide is a sin
Well he let Tsumuri shoot him so it’ll be as much suicide as letting Keiwa kill his mortal body
This is my wish too, but Ace won’t fulfill it because japan has shit taste and thinks all his work is genius.
>he let
he's pretty much powerless after regardo'd
Deities are powered by faith.
He needed Keiwa to have faith in him before he could become a god.
>Ace finally deletes the desire grand prix and stops the world of being stuck in another endless cycle
>Ziin: Hey I want to do another desire grand prix, one that is good this time!
Motherfricker, Ace became a deity specifically to grant wishes without the need of a DGP, and you’re here wasting all that to start the cycle again. That line could have been cut entirely.
The DGP is not a bad idea. its problem from day one was the corrupt people behind it and its dependence of using a system that uses the happiness of people as a catalyst to make it work.
taking the goddess, the death and the happiness extraction element from the equation would make the DGP no more different from your average game show. the difference here, is that the DGP would have access to the future tech, that while not as powerful as the goddess power, im sure it can still help make a kickass game and still help fulfill the wishes of people without fricking over innocents like the original did.
>no more different from your average game show
Game shows by nature are predatory, they all involve making people go through painful or embarrassing things to get a cheap price with only one possible winner. The DGP has already proven to not be trustworthy due to the psychopaths in charge, overpowered tech that's deadly dangerous and is easily exploitable by sponsors and players.
Even if you wanted to make a perfect clean DGP, you're still putting people with individual wishes against each other, and sooner or later someone will do something horrible to get his way.
So Neon's "true love" in the end was just getting dicked down by Chad
Her “true love” was her abusive parents decide they don’t wanna be abusive anymore. Her “prince charming” is an irrelevant simp who came at the last minute after she already sorted her shit out.
>your wish will come true if you believe them enough
Considering most of the dreams they pinned down were either very achievable dreams or superficial stuff, no shit. Keiwa was the only one who wrote something you actually have to work hard for.
Can children still develop terminal cancer in Geats's world?
until someone wishes cancer doesn't exist ever or wishes it away when diagnosed
I love trust last but the movie song for the final scenes was perfect with the vibe
Daichi was a silly character but I liked how they ended his story. Then I looked up the preview for the V-Cinema
>In the film, the Riders make their final assault against the ever-growing Jyamato, hoping to discover the secrets of their existence and return peace to the world.
Daichi what the frick man?
two things I liked from geats is how they committed to the rule thing at the end of every single episode, and how they actually went with a lot of DGP/offshoot games from start to finish, instead of just abandoning the concept half way through, no matter how much I wish they did abandon it once chirami came and went
I want "Saber was good." trolls to leave right now. The show literally had no plot until its last arc. The bad guys sat in a room watching a disembodied hand write. Then COVID got manageable enough for them to actually do things and they quickly scraped something together.
On the other hand, I also want Kamen Rider to stop wrapping up the plot with four months left to go and then pulling something out of their ass. Bad George was one of the worst plots in recent memory. Geats' ending got OK but it struggled with them wrapping up the story after they introduced the final form and then having like four months of it. At least we got Keiwa's Black Shogun form which looked cool.
>talking about Saber for no reason
Obsessed
I rather have a show that started like a slog and later redeemed itself until the end, than Revice.
>and later redeemed itself until the end
Saber didn't do that, it started shit and got a bit better by the end but was never that good. Didn't get as bad as late Revice but never even got as good as early Revice either honestly.
Saber was terrible but it's perceived quality is higher for some people because it started like the worst garbage ever and then got better.
It never got good, but humans perceive the quality of something in the form
#enjoyment - #exectedEnjoyment
Once the expectations are down on the bottom, one can enjoy even trash.
>#enjoyment - #exectedEnjoyment
>Once the expectations are down on the bottom, one can enjoy even trash.
This was why people loved Geats Q1 after Revice
Saber is liked now because every other Reiwa show aimed for the stars and fell down high, while Saber stayed what it always was with no subversion or cynicism, which is what people remember fondly compared to Revice's slop and Takahashi's hack writing. It does stand out for being next to trash, but it doesn't mean its as bad as the others.
>The show literally had no plot until its last arc
How did you miss Saber's plot when it's the easiest to digest story out of all the Reiwa series and even compared to the last few Heisei series too?
>good as early Revice
I still don't understand the boner for early Revice when everything I watched (and when I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING) besides Ikki's and Daiji's dynamic and Demon's debut was utter trash.
>boner for early Revice
it wasn't anything amazing, was alright and a lot better than what happened in the show later. All I said was that it was better than Saber in general
>was alright and a lot better than what happened in the show later.
>All I said was that it was better than Saber in general
And you'd be completely dead wrong. It was objectively mostly fricking dogshit with two or three redeeming qualities. The fact that your opinion can even exist, and is one of the more common ones about the show, baffles me to no end.
Overall I enjoyed Geats but the enjoyment massively took a nosedive since Ace go creation powers.
I am also generally unsure about his "making happiness unbounded" and "people getting their wishes as long as they desire them".
If happiness is unbounded then Keiwa's previous wish for the dead to be revived wouldn't be an issue anymore.
Also we see Keiwa working towards becoming a police officer to further is his dream of world peace.
That's vastly different than just wishing for it.
I thought the very obvious point was that you had to both wish for something and work towards it to make it happen. You simply can't do one or the other.
>Ex-Aid
>01
>Geats
>all started off strong and then become a bore fest in second half
It's your fault if you believe thing will be different this time.
Wait does Revice have canon yuri in it? Just started watching it and saw people say it does
Small spoiler but kinda yes. If Kinoshita was allowed he would have them scissor every time they were on screen, which was a lot.
no
it's not even as yuribait-y as most Precure seasons.
I mean in the show itself, from what I remember the last episodes of Ex-Aid and Zero-One explicitly show that their respective threats are still around.
Sex with Neon.
Kinoshitabros... yurikeks... this can't be happening ... and so soon after Bandai did that G-Witch retcon...
1/10 bait effort
>FRICK WE FORGOT THAT ACE PLANS FOR EVERYTHING JUST SAY HE PLANNED TO BE A DEITY THIS WHOLE TIME AND SOMEHOW PLANNED AROUND EVIL KEIWA AND THEN TURNING HIM BACK
>Keiwa failed on his wish of bringing but every dead rider
I would have been okay with this if the series acknowledged some deaths can't be stopped and you have to move on with your life, but the final message is that EVERYONE can be happy no matter what, and multiple deaths were undone, so clearly the point isn't to let others stay dead. So ignoring all the deceased riders in the bright and happy finale, not confirming if they survived or not while giving happy endings to characters like Buffa, Sparrow, and the fricking Jyamato, who were all responsible for ruining lives, is incredibly hypocritical and tone-deaf. Clearly, not everyone gets to be happy since a bunch of good people stayed dead.
I bet they'll say on some website that everyone who died totally revived off-screen, but if it's not in the show then it's bullshit.
That was weird, especially when Writer-san had the balls to say everyone who was converted to data was effectively dead in Ex-Aid.
>especially when Writer-san had the balls to say everyone who was converted to data was effectively dead in Ex-Aid
He didn't, Ex-Aid ends with the CR promising to find a way to bring them back, and Another Ending has them making progress thanks to Kuroto's God Maximum Mighty Gashat. Hiiro's even planning to propose to Saki once she's brought back according to the novel.
I was thinking...would his wish bring back every dead rider all the way back to 1 AD?
An interesting idea that's never explored
>if the series acknowledged some deaths can't be stopped and you have to move on with your life
They kinda did with Michinaga accepting his friend is gone. Though to be fair Keiwa was the only one that cared about bringing people back
I thought Masamune deleted her?
>I thought Masamune deleted her?
She was able to be restored temporarily thanks to his Reset, as shown in the V-Cins. Also, her data should be as "lost" as that of the other victims stored inside the Chronicle Gashat that Masamune destroyed when he was dying, and Kuroto was capable of bringing back some of those victims in his zombie game as well as Masamune during the V-Cins.
it's fine, cause not everyone that's dead is a good person and better if they stay dead and in hell
t. psycho
That goes against Ace-sama's teachings.
I wish Ace stayed tied up
It makes me feel things
After they pulled that bullshit of killing his parents immediately after being revived it was over for his character.
It was a good show.
Incorrect.
Was being the key word
will gotchard be a fun show ? i want to watch fun things
Sayonara, Star of the Stars of the Stars
Crazy good series and finale
No
The people Keiwa wanted to say were not evil people who deserved to stay dead
>Keiwa was the only one that cared about bringing people back
The final episodes of the show are all about everyone teaming up to revive Sara so Keiwa stops being a psycho butthole.
Is Geats set in the main rider world or its on its own? And if Ace said that people can wish for happiness, then why Gotchard gotta face conflict trying to get all the Chemmies?
People can wish for happiness, but Ace is not gonna grant those wishes.
No, they're all seperate until the story or cross over requires them to overlap. It simply makes no sense otherwise.
Ace isn't an abrahamic deity by the end of it dude, he's just a local japanese shrine god, there's hundreds of those. He's not omnipotent anymore, he just made a "fair" world where you can struggle towards your wish.
>He's not omnipotent anymore
He literally claims to be exactly that by the end
who subbed saber? I want to watch it weekly along with gotchard
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He got away with everything
Apparently the actor is prominent in game/variety shows, so I guess they were hoping to get more views by featuring him.
He's a homosexual that should be dead
Whoever's bright idea it was to have the finale fight of a rider show take place in the same warehouse that every other show has filmed in (to my knowledge) is out of his mind.
The atmosphere got entirely drained.
And that warehouse had been used twice before in the show already, at that.
Frick off moron.
Cry more, Geatsgay.
Frick off moron.
Keep crying, fragile Geatsgay.
Anon has a point in that the warehouse was a poor choice for the final fight, especially for a show like Geats. It being the place of two previous, lesser fights in the show doesn't help either.
They needed a location that they could, one set off explosions
and two ride the bikes on
. The warehouse is one of the few private locations that they could do that in, they only other place would be the quarry or mountain and every other finale takes place in the quarry or mountain.
>they only other place would be the quarry or mountain and every other finale takes place in the quarry or mountain
That's preferable to the inelegant rundowm warehouse imo.
That would have cost more money sending everyone and the crew and as we all know Geats is a budget season.
I don't even like Geats that much, you're the one complaining about filming locations in modern Toku where they only have a handful of places they film.
Worst finale in Reiwa
Why does she already look like a 40 year old mom at 18?
She was crying about how she didn't have a lot of fanart.
Thanks for the fun show. Geats may have had some not so great parts, but it was still entertaining. 8/10 would recommend.
I still don't get how Ace set up his ascension to a deity. If he just had to leave his mortal self, then why didn't he kill himself earlier?
because before he was killed, Judas betrayed Jesus