Katz Cafe

https://litter.catbox.moe/g1sf0v.pdf

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
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          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mc with a secret dosn't keep her secret

            Man this sounded great

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would the tweest ending be that the health inspector is actually the hero and doing his community a service by shutting down the disgusting cat cafe where the animals are getting in the kitchen and nibbling on the ingredients and shitting all over the floor when they get stressed out?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ginger vs. the Cat World

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So basically Littlest Pet Shop.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >404
    You failed

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      must've gotten deleted.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
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          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cute nerd

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So...Darryl McGee

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Same thought I had, but the design is cuter.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And in the end he turns out to actually be a depressed old human man.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Crumpet should have been voiced by Zach Hadel or Danny Devito

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tee-hee the catbox never existed also here's some fake sketches on a white background
        YOU HAVE BEEN SPAMMING YOUR LARP FOR 3 FRICKING YEARS

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If a tree falls in a forest with no one around, does it make a sound?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only if it gets leaked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        those character comparisons are the reason shit sucks nowadays, characters have to be derivative in a way execs can easily understand or else they won't sign off on the pitch

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cute nerd

        I think this is the only time I've seen "character comparisons" as part of a pitch bible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >character comparisons
        >here's three characters whose only shared trait is being the main protagonist of a story

        They teach this in art school?

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When was the last time we had a redhead protagonist?

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought this was fake.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
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              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                damn this aesthetic is cute. it would 100% appeal to the girl audience disney is (was?) looking for.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel it leans too heavily into it SVTFOE didn’t have buildings this overwhelmingly pastel

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Last pic

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks op. The artist clearly had a passion for this project, it's sad to see her put so much of herself into something that never got greenlit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonyrnous

                Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here [...] but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf
                [...]
                >Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
                No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
                I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf
                [...]
                https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf

                One big issue I'm seeing with Katz Cafe's pitch bible is that there isn't nearly as much art compared to the one for Primos. I can see that Cheyenne Curtis clearly put a lot of thought into the premise and themes and characters, but for a presentation meant to quickly sell a concept, visual aids would surely come a long way. TV executives have to sort through TONS of shit in development, so a bunch of slides with Google images of the movies and locations that "inspired" your show will just get boring very easily.

                Natasha Kline's doodles are grotesque, but they at least keep your attention. The Latino representation likely also gave it an extra advantage, but that's another conversation

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that's the first thing I noticed comparing Katz with all the other pitch bibles in this thread, where's the art?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that's the first thing I noticed comparing Katz with all the other pitch bibles in this thread, where's the art?

                I think some pitches are like that, a lot of text. But to get greenlit the pitch has to be really solid, not just cat stuff.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now I'm curious how TV writers tend to pitch their cartoon ideas, the ones who've only WRITTEN on cartoons but have no artistic skill. The Molly McGee pitch packet shared in this thread is clearly from when Disney was already set to put it into production--very different from the Katz and Primos ones--but beforehand did Bill & Bob really just have a paragraph they'd read aloud whenever they'd pitch their shows over the years? How did the Hailey's On It guys pitch their cartoon?

                Either way, Cheyenne should've commissioned some of her friends to help draw up some rough background concepts and at least add some COLOR to her character designs. Not everyone can play an instrument to accompany their pitch like Dan & Swampy or Pen Ward, so at least give me SOMETHING in your early art.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *israeli representation*

              • 3 weeks ago
                The Demon

                Rest in piss. I hope you never get a show greenlit

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Last pic

                >Secret lineage that gives her powers
                I bet a million that she was going to have her own super saiyan form in the finale

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She was going to turn into a cat

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Godomino?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Kids love food
                Humans generally dislike starving

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > The kitchen is technically off-limits to the cats, but that never stops Crumpet from sneaking back there
                health code violation waiting to happen STAT

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Constant discovery of turds in the flour

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fricking dio

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              SHE'S SO FRICKING CUTE

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why did they have to make them israeli?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I already hate Fancy Todd

          • 3 weeks ago
            The Demon

            Instant shit. Like the b***h from the other show, they try to make terrible characters "fan favorites"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          she would have been Cinemaphile's favorite

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would be better with her hair down

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you know like the examples.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wild child should have unkempt wild hair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, it's real alright. Real DEAD!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who unironically thinks this is real needs to be castrated

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess you can say that the cat is now out of the back

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >back
        You had one job, Carlos

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is just Ollie and Scoops.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its really not. At least the girl here is cute

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        eh previous girl is cute

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you just know they canceled it because the protag is a read head

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      don’t know what that means but sure.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A bookworm

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have the full molly mcgee pitch bible?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is literally just Hilda and Gochuisa fused together

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The Cat And israelitey McGee.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have the pilot animatic of Katz Cafe, or animation tests of it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't exist, KC was a rejected pitch, nothing else. It was optioned but never went into further development than that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why was it never made? Is there anything more than a pitch bible for it? Is it true it got cancelled because of the Hollywood strikes in 2023? Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why was it never made
          Because it's a larp by the fake TVA/Anytown spammer
          It doesn't exist and never has

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It doesn't exist and never has
            I dunno, this seems pretty legit.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's the fakest looking shit I've ever seen and this person has been spamming this larp with fake links for years

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DTVA wants only reboots and franchise related shows now. This started before the strikes. Stugo was the last original greenlit AFAIK.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >white protagonist
          >no forced gayslop mentioned anywhere

          Gee I wonder why.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't she a J?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, but is she a brown lesbian israelite? Didn't think so.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The final show is such an upgrade in animation, we'll never get a show as good looking as that on DTVA ever again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shame it was wasted on such a bad script though. The 8 Crazy Nights of DTVA

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The 8 Crazy Nights of DTVA
            Fricking idiot

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's fun and surreal to see what could've been, but yes, the final designs and style were a definite upgrade from the test pilot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >KC was a rejected pitch
        Man, that's a shame.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does anyone have the pilot animatic of Katz Cafe, or animation tests of it?

        Someone prove or disprove the existence of Katz Cafe's pilot animatic. Words aren't strong enough to either disprove or prove that one was produced or not.

        A pilot does exist as mentioned from Cheyenne in the Creative Block podcast at 28:00, but now its hidden away in the vault by Disney

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does nobody have access to it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone got a reupload? I wanna see the Molly Mcgee test animations.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://archive.org/details/molly-mcgee-pilot

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >404 NOT FOUND
    FRICK reupload please

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand where the meme that this is fake came from. It was a very real development project that was never greenlit and was long rejected by the time it was leaked. Probably a visdev artist who worked on the pitch had it in their portfolio and gave their NDA password to someone socially engineering them.
    https://litter.catbox.moe/y626fn.pdf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Guyz I swear this is real
      >404 not found
      Lol
      Lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. The only thing shared in this thread that's actually a show is cringe Molly shit and no one wants to see that show after it became The Ollie Show

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Molly one too then? Good to see this one. You happen to have any others or a reupload of Katz?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here

        [...]

        but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf

        Why was it never made? Is there anything more than a pitch bible for it? Is it true it got cancelled because of the Hollywood strikes in 2023? Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time?

        >Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
        No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
        I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf

        Can someone please post the Primos pitch bible and leaked episodes while we're spamming "leaks"

        https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
          Holy frick how is the art in the Bible even WORSE than the actual show? How did this get greenlit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
          Wow, I can't believe it looked that bad. Those noses are genuinely disgusting.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >primos was even uglier in its pitch
          dios mio…

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those hacks said that Alfonso and Ferguson were mandated by the suits but they were in the pitch bible all along

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Star one looks more like as show bible from the middle of development than an initial pitch.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You do know there can be changes even while the bible is being made, right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >those fricking noses
          Why did she think this would stick? Natasha Kline is free to keep those in her own personal doodles, but good GOD did she test everyone at Disney during development. My guess is she was so laser-focused on trying to give her cartoon its own "unique stylistic quirk" that she failed to realize how hideous the rough designs were becoming. Those "noses" are not the same as the Groening overbite or the Roiland eyes.

          What we have in the final product may be easier to stomach, but it's still not for everyone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can we all agree this should've been made instead of Primos and Hailey? It sounded like the Hilda spiritual successor we all wanted in the best possible way and just fun all around. This is DTVA's Me and My Shadow.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not fair anything is better than the primos but yeah it seems cute.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, but I think Katz will become a show in the near future

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here [...] but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf
      [...]
      >Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
      No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
      I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf
      [...]
      https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf

      Star Vs, Molly and Primos got deleted by Disney anyone saved them

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He still doesn't know what litterbox is
        Gotta save those links when the iron is hot anon. But because I'm feeling nice:
        https://litter.catbox.moe/r8rmsu.pdf
        https://litter.catbox.moe/jsga2l.pdf
        https://litter.catbox.moe/k023p3.pdf
        https://litter.catbox.moe/vxfwf4.pdf

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but do you mind reposting what I assume was the katz cafe animatic/pilot? I wanna watch it and I missed the links before because of work

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was the pilot for Molly McGee, not Katz. I don't have a copy saved.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >don't have a copy saved
              of the Katz pilot?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you mentally challenged?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you happen to have The Owl House's bible? I think it's the only pitch bible left from DTVA that hasn't surfaced.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, this board isn't the inbox for Disney Channel, you need to spam your pitches there not here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pitch spam would be better than twitter screenshots if they just linked a pdf of all the images

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me other Disney leaks, what about that show about vampire kids from the Kiff creator.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone please post the Primos pitch bible and leaked episodes while we're spamming "leaks"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God no frick off.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm guessing the show didn't move forward because room wasn't made for song bursts each episode.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is something I'd expect to see as a Kickstarter.

    No wonder Disney passed on it.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man frick Bob Iger

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post the Kiff bible.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sounds kino
    >gets rejected
    why is Disney like this?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1. She isn't brown
      2. She isn't brown

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also no songs. This is the musical era.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Was Katz not meant to have any musical numbers?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not a first time

      %3D

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Requesting a drawing of Frolie and Grandpa speaking with Ginger and Crumpet on the Katz Cat Cafe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Requesting Ginger telling a Disney exc to frick off in cat language, bonus points if it's Bob Iger

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kino
      it doesn't

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, Tater in the show is somehow a significant improvement.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >nose and eyes are a mutilated dick and balls

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also apparently the attic full of fiberglass from the pilot isn't actually her bedroom, which means it'll probably be in the final show after all

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least they actually addressed it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The bible dosn't mention the controversial names, it seems that those where forced by Disney without asking an actual latino

      • 3 weeks ago
        truteal

        Link?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In this thread

          • 3 weeks ago
            truteal

            The link's dead for me

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick man now i'm sad, specially cause i really like cheyenne curtis' art

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf

    Link is dead, can someone reupload it or Disney lawyers want to revive it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read the thread.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick Disney

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i do not like cheyenne curtis but this show looks like it could’ve been so cute.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pick one for DTVA to revive
    >Katz Cafe
    >The Ghost and Molly McGee Season 3

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Katz, we saw what Mc and Mortey season 3 would be like.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Molly had its time, I was already really looking forward to this show 🙁

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Katz, and it isn't even close.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thoroughly enjoyed Molly, but they already ended it in a satisfying way. Despite people shitting on the leaked third season pitches and scripts, I actually think there were good ideas in there which could've positively impacted the show, but either returning to those or even making new ones from scratch would just undermine what they wound up doing. Maybe a 5 episode revival special run to cover their best S3 ideas as a prelude to the existing finale would be my preference, though at this point just giving something entirely new a chance to exist would be the better option.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The Ghost and Molly McGee Season 3
      But I'd not adapt those S3 scripts, I'd like a movie or miniseries where Molly questions her positivity as she grows up and finds some of the nastier parts of life. Still has a positive tone, but a more existential and relatable topic than comedy fun fluff from the show.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I guess they'd already planned to touch on that more with Patty dying, and the ending itself obviously left her with mixed emotions. Interesting idea for a followup, though I don't know where they'd go with itto keep it feeling like the same show, unless they threw in backflashes to new Molly and Scratch antics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I loved TGAMM, I don't even think the leaked scripts were that bad. One of my favorite things about the show was the fact that it was a non-serialized cartoon that still managed to have a cast of characters and side characters that developed as the show went on and I just wanted AT LEAST one more season of that to really see how much Brighton could evolve. Also the show was just genuinely really fun to watch, Mercury Filmworks is such a good studio to source your animation to.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonyrnous

        I fricking adored Molly McGee. It had practically everything I could ever ask for in a cartoon: gorgeous art style, charming songs, loveable cast, consistent worldbuilding while still maintaining a pleasantly mundane atmosphere, hot milf, knew how to be diverse & progressive without sacrificing humor or sharp comedic timing, and best of all... it was ORIGINAL.

        Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run, but I'll always treasure what we have and I'll always be grateful we at least got that final episode to wrap things up in a truly heartwarming way. It's because I hold the show in such high regard that I'm willing to admit there are still ways I feel it could've been better: minor things like utilizing its larger cast more or making the MC's love interest more distinct and interesting. Still, I have far more positive things to say about Molly McGee than negative. Would've been nice to have seen that potential third season fully realized, but I'm still enhappified all the same.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run
          Eh, I never really expected it to get such a broad audience as something like Amphibia or Owl show but I still feel like it found a suitable sized audience at least when you compare it to stuff like Kiff or Hailey's (rip to that show too). I was really hoping that would be enough to warrant a Season 3 but I guess Disney's a b***h and it probably would've never happened anyways.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I feel bad that Hailey has the distinction of being the first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season, but tbh I've always personally had it out for the show since I couldn't help but view it as a threat to Molly McGee, as if it was meant to be Disney's cheaper alternative to take Molly McGee's place and guarantee greater success simply by casting Moana's VA as the lead. Auli'i was always the headliner in press releases and even sang the theme song, so I could tell she was intended as the show's main selling point.

            I also never found the premise or especially the art style all that alluring, but the TIMING of the show's premiere while I knew Molly McGee was simultaneously on its deathbed was what made my feelings toward Hailey go from indifference to outright malice. I was basically praying for its downfall. I guess I technically got what I wanted, but I just feel empty now. My heart goes out to the crew, but I'll just go right back to desperately hoping Wander Over Yonder gets its final season someday. That's all I've ever really wanted, and that show was left open-ended enough to still leave room for its proposed third season unlike Molly.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season
              Last one was either Billy Dilly or Caballeros

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that was the one I had in mind. Totally forgot about Caballeros since that one is such a peculiar case. Wasn’t it dumped onto Disney+ before they started airing it on Disney Channel in the U.S.?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season
                Last one was either Billy Dilly or Caballeros

                Future-Worm! also lasted 1 season

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Caballeros
                Not a TVA show.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run
          What? It was somewhat popular early on but they squandered that popularity with dumb hiatuses that went on for months and season 2 being a wet fart. Don't blame the audience for the show's failure.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Patty's story never receiving the intended conclusion was one of the bigger losses, since the concept of her dying for real was probably something they had in mind since the beginning. The whole thing of her burying the hatchet and reconnecting with Linda, along with Molly helping her check off her list, would've tied in well with Molly's realization that Scratch is better off returning to his real life so he doesn't die unfulfilled. Her ghostless death would've made for a nice moment of death being treated as something other than a gag, as well as imply that Scratch/Todd living a similarly fulfilled life would mean that Molly won't just get him back as a ghost as soon as he dies.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I fricking adored Molly McGee. It had practically everything I could ever ask for in a cartoon: gorgeous art style, charming songs, loveable cast, consistent worldbuilding while still maintaining a pleasantly mundane atmosphere, hot milf, knew how to be diverse & progressive without sacrificing humor or sharp comedic timing, and best of all... it was ORIGINAL.

        Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run, but I'll always treasure what we have and I'll always be grateful we at least got that final episode to wrap things up in a truly heartwarming way. It's because I hold the show in such high regard that I'm willing to admit there are still ways I feel it could've been better: minor things like utilizing its larger cast more or making the MC's love interest more distinct and interesting. Still, I have far more positive things to say about Molly McGee than negative. Would've been nice to have seen that potential third season fully realized, but I'm still enhappified all the same.

        Wish the writing was better, but the animation and voice actors really make it a fun watch

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Katz Cafe is to Primos what Popeye is to The Emoji Movie

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Disney you deleted the link, if you're reading this frick you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The link was dead when the thread went up, OP is just stupid and posted an old litterbox link.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >litter.catbox.moe
    WHY THE FRICK DO YOU moronS DO THIS
    Literally what part of TEMPORARY UPLOAD do you not understand? Why are you posting a link that 404s an hour after it's posted?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't immediate archive every Litterbox leak he sees to his data packrat drive just in case it's useful later.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      archive.org

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >CANCELED THING GOOD
    >EXISTING THING BAD
    >EARLY THING GOOD
    >FINAL THING BAD
    What promotes this mindset? I see it all the time in videogame communities. Just a grass is greener thing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's this autism of "what COULD HAVE BEEN" being somehow more SOULFUL than the final result because if the show is medicoer or "censored" in any way it's thanks to "wokeness" and barely ever the blame is put on the companies that publish these IPs, it's just pure moronation. It's why I don't usually go to these threads that's fueled by bad takes on life issues, but I was lead here because a new leak showed up and I just wanted to understand what the frick was going on.

      I'm glad I'm not like these generation of morons, it pays being a Millennialboomer that doesn't take this shit seriously. I care more about what the execs do to make something worse, not what the show could have been because it never was going to be that, it's called "brainstorming" for a reason. It's not ideas set in stone, which literally everything in art has gone through.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B-b-b-but WE WERE ROBBED

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What promotes this mindset?
      Corporate execs ruining everything original for the sake of cheapness, mass marketability and to justify their own paychecks by adding their own brainless input. Denying this happens just feels like contrarianism for the sake of it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except not every example of the "original concept" not getting in is thanks to execs. Saying it isn't a factor is wrong of course, but saying it's ALWAYS a factor to the point nothing release is GOOD in any way is just as mentally moronic. If it wasn't how the creators wanted it, they'd just not make the fricking thing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If it wasn't how the creators wanted it, they'd just not make the fricking thing
          Except that's not really true because creators are usually faced with the choice between:
          >insist on what you want and don't get your show made/get fired and someone else will do what we want with your show anyway (see: Lauren Faust) and end up with no job
          >cave to exec demands and keep earning a paycheck
          The answer is really to work outside of the studio system entirely, which is not really hard now the internet exists. Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
            I love that I'm not the only one to notice. The Amazing Digital Circus proves it can be done

            The one and only issue is, Youtube gets all that money and they did jack shit for it. If the day people make their own places for art to flourish then that's when the art medium will heal.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The Amazing Digital Circus proves it can be done
              And Monkey Wrench demonstrates the struggles of going indie. Success isn't guaranteed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one said it was. But there's far more freedom from non company partnership.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The answer is really to work outside of the studio system entirely, which is not really hard now the internet exists. Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
            I've been thinking about this a lot recently after hearing about all the ways shows at DTVA are being just completely mishandled. I really don't understand why people decide to pursue and conform to the studio system in this day and age especially if you're genuinely a creative. Like yea obviously there's going to be struggles and shit associated with going the indie route but SURELY it can't be any worse than what the frick you have to deal with when selling your ideas to an animation studio owned by a multi-trillion dollar media company that barely cares about said studio in the first place?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The creative industries are genuinely one of the most nepotistic, that goes as much for the suits who get their relatives exec jobs doing virtually nothing besides sending emails giving their worthless corporate speak "input" as it does for the actual creatives. This is known by everybody in these industries so a lot of emphasis is put on making connections, particularly when you're studying to get into that kind of career. I think this instils in a lot of creative people the idea they can't possibly make it outside of those established networks, but in an age of streamers and youtubers pulling in millions making content from their bedrooms and artists making decent bank on patreon that's simply not true any more. You can take your content directly to the consumer and if you have a good idea people like, being able to connect with your actual target audience is massively more helpful to your success than connecting with out-of-touch industry insiders who don't understand or believe in it.

              I think the only major barrier to independently producing high quality content that needs a lot of investment is how wary people are of things like kickstarter now after so many projects have just flaked on their promises and given crowdfunding a bad name. The same kinda goes for "early access" games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Like something you didn't get: grass is greener
      >Dislike something you didn't get: sour grapes

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The fakest larp ever posted to this board holy shit this is laughably fake and bad
    You should feel bad for dragging this on for years

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/katz%20cafe/type/op/page/2/
    2 1/2 years my god

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Finally, some news about this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick, nevermind, read the rest of the thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly how I felt 🙁

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick, nevermind, read the rest of the thread

      What did you think it was?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought it was going to be neat SOL, maybe a talking cat or two, but it got increasingly outlandish and amateur

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    WE GOTTA GET KATZ CAFE BACK

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no love interest anywhere

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that a good thing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is that supposed to be a good or bad thing?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      she's gonna get dyked bro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah she would have been "Disney's tm first asexual character"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know why cats howl when they have sex? It’s because they have barbed penises that destroy the vegana on the way out, and it ruins you for all the other cats

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not to be the cat sex autist but it's to actually allow the last cat to screw the female a higher chance of impregnating her by scraping the semen of the previous cats out, so the opposite of what you stated.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s just a reference to an old thing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You fool, it would have been DTVAs first asexual character beacuse nobody cared about Lily Clawthorne.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >asexual
        Not having her frick another character doesn't make her a good asexual representation.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw Ginger would've absolutely turned into a cat at some point in the show and we would've gotten an episode from her perspective in cat form in this world

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is even the appeal of this leaked shit?
    What is this show? Just a redhead doing normal life shit?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hilda but in a cat cafe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And remind me, what the frick was Hilda about? Never watched it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          European folk tales creatures are real and a girls goes exploring the wilderness encountering giants, trolls and other sorts of magical creatures.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Get off Cinemaphile and go watch it, infinitely better use of your time, it's kino.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like the schrodinger Katz was dead after all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wouldn’t the cat suffocate if the box was complete airtight?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good point.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't this the same person who got Chris Savino fired from Nickelodeon?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah actually
      What goes around comes around

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah actually
      What goes around comes around

      She wasn't the only woman to accuse Savino of workplace harassment. Apparently "a dozen women" were cited back when the news first broke. We'll never know how many of those other women had their own poor interactions with Savino versus how many were just siding with Cheyenne, but based on what Savino later revealed, Cheyenne specifically was a colleague he had an affair with who was so insecure and preoccupied with being part of an "animation power couple" that she must've felt slighted when The Loud House was finally bought by Nick.

      I'd call it karmic justice that Savino's legacy continues to be spread by a major company while Cheyenne's dream cartoon couldn't even get to the pilot stage, but Katz Cafe honestly just didn't feel like it had much going on anyway. Their whole affair situation could've been handled better, but it also could've turned out MUCH worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Katz Cafe honestly just didn't feel like it had much going on anyway
        neither does Loud House tbh. KC at least feels like a Hilda spiritual successor

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >KC at least feels like a Hilda spiritual successor
          That sounds more like a cope.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The funniest shit in the world would be if Katz Cafe pulled a Nimona and got revived at a different studio

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disney owns it according to Cheyenne,she inderectly told it on a tweet by Matt Braly, sadly she locked her account.

      >https://twitter.com/VincentBecherer/status/1737479088359546940

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn hopefully Disney will rethink and get it greenlight but then again one can hope.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know, back int he early 10s shows got cancelled too soon (Tron, Motorcity) , in the late 10s shows where cancelled before they even came out ( Three Caballeros) and now they are getting cancelled before they are even before they are made.

    A decade from now the pitch meeting will only be a room with a paper shrewder you send your pitch bible

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    let me sum up the thread for you
    word salads + mucho texto killed the show

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the difference between them?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hilda is a quarter fairy, while Ginger is a pennypussy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ginger can't take yards of troll dick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      whats even similar between them?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The way the eyes are drawn I guess?
        I'm not sure why people keep comparing the style, that's the only similarity.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I guess simple cozy setting with girl protag is enough of a comparison

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >single mums
        >11 years old
        >have an animal sidekick
        >attract the supernatural unlike any other
        >both start their story by moving to a new town
        >said town introduces them to their new best friends
        >have a similar personality in wanting to help people
        >short as frick
        >live in a cozy ass world

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Half of these are generic ideas present in like a million stories

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on the four episode plots we have?
    >Mapple Butter Madness
    >Five Gold Paws
    >Oujia Bored
    >Missing Meows

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that one of the TGAMM S3 scripts has a reference to Katz Cafe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So it was going to be Molly's sister show

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WDAS: Gigantic
    >Pixar: Newt
    >DTVA: Katz Cafe

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol those first two at least went through development. Seems Katz Cafe was gutted at just the pitching stage

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how this thread went from "This is Fake" to "This would have been the best new DTVA show, we were robbed."

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would sacrifice every ongoing DTVA show right now just so Katz could happen for real

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >a spunky girl moves to an unfamiliar town where she comes into contact with the supernatural by chance and tries to befriend both it and her newfound relationships alongside an animal sidekick and her mother
    Hilda, Molly, and Ginger are the same

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Molly
      >animal sidekick

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This sounds similar to that manga that only had ova adaptations, where a girl (that is also a cyborg) attends the only cafe in a post apocalypse scenario
    >cal arts style
    Nah i dont care

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it looked super cute and comfy too as this generation's hilda 🙁

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this generation's Hilda
      This generation's Hilda IS Hilda

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hilda came out six years ago

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all these shows are getting canned because they decided to bring back that geriatric homosexual to Disney in 2022
      dope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I hope there's still hope for this show

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's no way Disney actually revives the idea despite all the shit it has gone through, right?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there's a chance for it to go to another network, right?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tfw Netflix gets it from Disney

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cast her VA

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Dolores Madrigal VA

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sapphire from Steven Universe
          Dolores Madrigal from Encanto
          Candy Wu from Gravity Falls
          B-MO from Adventure Time

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Darn, I missed all the file uploads. Could someone share, please?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nope.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to be funny as frick once the general public is aware of Katz Cafe's existence and rage at Disney even more for passing it to make Primos

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying
      The twits on blue bird site are praising Primos.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one is “praising” Primos outside baiters

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well I hope you're right, because there's a homosexual on /trash/ who constantly praises it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            *Theres a pedophile on /trash/ somehow turned on by the disgusting designs and hypes it up because they want to frick one of the girls

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    any more art of Ginger?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Someone made fan art of her in 2023 once. I hope someone in here draws her.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can immediately tell that htis artist does e-girl porn based on how he drew her here

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >kitty is not a cat but with more focus on boring human characters

          Why else would he draw a girl from a dead pitch?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Someone made fan art of her in 2023 once. I hope someone in here draws her.

      For a girl whose show never got past the pitching stage, she sure has a lot of fanart.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This scene but with Libby and Ginger

            ?feature=shared

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did Chris Savino know of Katz Cafe?

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there any chance this show gets picked up?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If they drop the creator who lied to ruin a man's life and career, sure.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw no cute fan art of Hilda visiting Katz Cafe and becoming best friends with Ginger
    🙁

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Up you go.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Up where?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Up up

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will we ever get early Hamster & Gretel material? I'm super interested in how they came up with the final style. It's such a huge departure from the two previous Dwampyverse shows that I have to assume Disney rushed through its development.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where did you find the pitch bible for H&G?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't. That's just a casting call for Kevin someone shared here a while ago.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone prove or disprove the existence of Katz Cafe's pilot animatic. Words aren't strong enough to either disprove or prove that one was produced or not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one knows for sure besides the concept art, which is the only thing made so far, looking for the animatics is far beyond approaching in the vault. As far as anyone knows, there was never an animatic made.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Odds of this being real?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      With all the layoffs and strikes and the messy state DTVA is in, I doubt Disney is going to revive the project and give it a second chance. While I want it and do believe there is an audience for it based on reactions, it would take a miracle for that to happen.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Iger's return the reason we haven't gotten any news on new DTVA shows?

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This guy is such a fricking loser. Leaks like these should be kept on the down-low either here on Cinemaphile, on Discord, or in private groupchats. You've gotta be the lamest person alive to want to spread this openly on Twitter every single time something is leaked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >on Discord, or in private groupchats

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Noooo! my leaks that I've been gatekeeping on discord for months have been posted on twitter whatever will I do?!
        go cry about it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have to ask: Why exactly do leaks happen? Is it because of disgruntled employees or what?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The more people that work on something, the more likely one of them will have a reason to leak stuff. Sometimes it's unintentional like they send it to a friend for only them to see or they get hacked or upload to somewhere that others can access. But it's mostly a disgruntled employee.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And it's also worth keeping in mind that there are low level employees beyond the key production staff (illustrators, animators, writers, editors, etc) who wind up with access to these things who probably feel safe to leak shit and don't really care if it winds up hurting the IP or the company.
          Either that or there was a hack.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I would assume a hack happened, usually show staff are limited to accessing only the show they're supposed to work on but these leakers seem to got everything from the 2010+ era of disney cartoons to the most recent stuff, even having access to full episodes that have not aired yet. That's not really the kind of content you let any single employee just be able to have.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              When did the Gravity Falls sheets leak?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Show me the Pacifica one.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140551992/#q140563433
                and then there's of course the thread where ducktales model sheets only a staff member could have were posted
                https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140314666/#q140314666
                and more recently, the molly mcgee model sheets leaking
                https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/141546052/#q141548945

                just a lot of signs that I think point out that some breach happened if it wasn't obvious enough from all the leaks that have been happening in the last year, from pilots to pitch bibles and this stuff

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh hey, thanks anon. Could be cool seeing these. And yeah, something clearly happened that resulted in a lot of information falling into the wrong hands. Weird how it's all seemingly happening only recently.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People have been asking for Katz leaks since it first got rumored to exist

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why was Disney thinking

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >almost everyone here enjoyed the pitch bible for Katz Cafe
    >Disney greenlits Hailey's on It, StuGo, and Primos instead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >almost everyone here enjoyed the pitch bible for Katz Cafe
      why do you lie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the company that thought Three Cabs was going to offend Latinos but Primos was going to be seen as inspiring latinx content
      They don't know what the frick they're doing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I generally hope Primos gets dunked so hard on its first episode the show gets cancelled immediately

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Primos gets dunked hard enough that Disney kills it right away and decides to revive Katz Cafe out of desperation

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's some rumors they are going to basically dump the entire thing at once and get it over with
        Which I'd just not release the entire series, there's zero way this isn't going to be trashed as soon as it comes out no matter how much time they spend to fix the Spanish

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It wouldn't be too surprising to see them dump the whole season at once. That would be one way for them to try to bury the show. But it's hard to know how they'll really handle that show. I mean they already delayed it at least once.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It comes out in four months I think

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So June then? I had thought either that or July. Guess it checks out. Makes sense that the Summer of Tater would premiere on Summer.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The premise and design on KK is really nice, but as a pitch bible it kind of sucks

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it actually was Katz Cafe, people would've cared

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they wouldn't
      This was a dead concept that Ollie & Scoops brought to production first with better concept of what it was
      >But muh repre–
      Frick you
      I'm a israelite and I'm sick of seeing more israelites on tv
      This was a crap pitch deck with the kind of moron woobies we'd find in 2000s deviantArt who have no real flaws or personalities
      Frick you, move on and form a second idea if that's at all possible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ollie & Scoops looks like shit tho, it's nothing like this.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They know now.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are fates worse than death

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cat cafes are inherently disgusting and I hope the surprise moral at the end would've been that the health inspector shutting them down was best for the cats and the community

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