Would the tweest ending be that the health inspector is actually the hero and doing his community a service by shutting down the disgusting cat cafe where the animals are getting in the kitchen and nibbling on the ingredients and shitting all over the floor when they get stressed out?
those character comparisons are the reason shit sucks nowadays, characters have to be derivative in a way execs can easily understand or else they won't sign off on the pitch
damn this aesthetic is cute. it would 100% appeal to the girl audience disney is (was?) looking for.
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I feel it leans too heavily into it SVTFOE didn’t have buildings this overwhelmingly pastel
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Last pic
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Thanks op. The artist clearly had a passion for this project, it's sad to see her put so much of herself into something that never got greenlit.
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Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here [...] but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf
[...] >Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf
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https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
One big issue I'm seeing with Katz Cafe's pitch bible is that there isn't nearly as much art compared to the one for Primos. I can see that Cheyenne Curtis clearly put a lot of thought into the premise and themes and characters, but for a presentation meant to quickly sell a concept, visual aids would surely come a long way. TV executives have to sort through TONS of shit in development, so a bunch of slides with Google images of the movies and locations that "inspired" your show will just get boring very easily.
Natasha Kline's doodles are grotesque, but they at least keep your attention. The Latino representation likely also gave it an extra advantage, but that's another conversation
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Yeah that's the first thing I noticed comparing Katz with all the other pitch bibles in this thread, where's the art?
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Yeah that's the first thing I noticed comparing Katz with all the other pitch bibles in this thread, where's the art?
I think some pitches are like that, a lot of text. But to get greenlit the pitch has to be really solid, not just cat stuff.
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Now I'm curious how TV writers tend to pitch their cartoon ideas, the ones who've only WRITTEN on cartoons but have no artistic skill. The Molly McGee pitch packet shared in this thread is clearly from when Disney was already set to put it into production--very different from the Katz and Primos ones--but beforehand did Bill & Bob really just have a paragraph they'd read aloud whenever they'd pitch their shows over the years? How did the Hailey's On It guys pitch their cartoon?
Either way, Cheyenne should've commissioned some of her friends to help draw up some rough background concepts and at least add some COLOR to her character designs. Not everyone can play an instrument to accompany their pitch like Dan & Swampy or Pen Ward, so at least give me SOMETHING in your early art.
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*israeli representation*
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Rest in piss. I hope you never get a show greenlit
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Last pic
>Secret lineage that gives her powers
I bet a million that she was going to have her own super saiyan form in the finale
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She was going to turn into a cat
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Godomino?
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>Kids love food
Humans generally dislike starving
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> The kitchen is technically off-limits to the cats, but that never stops Crumpet from sneaking back there
health code violation waiting to happen STAT
Why was it never made? Is there anything more than a pitch bible for it? Is it true it got cancelled because of the Hollywood strikes in 2023? Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time?
Does anyone have the pilot animatic of Katz Cafe, or animation tests of it?
Someone prove or disprove the existence of Katz Cafe's pilot animatic. Words aren't strong enough to either disprove or prove that one was produced or not.
A pilot does exist as mentioned from Cheyenne in the Creative Block podcast at 28:00, but now its hidden away in the vault by Disney
I don't understand where the meme that this is fake came from. It was a very real development project that was never greenlit and was long rejected by the time it was leaked. Probably a visdev artist who worked on the pitch had it in their portfolio and gave their NDA password to someone socially engineering them.
https://litter.catbox.moe/y626fn.pdf
This. The only thing shared in this thread that's actually a show is cringe Molly shit and no one wants to see that show after it became The Ollie Show
Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here
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but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf
Why was it never made? Is there anything more than a pitch bible for it? Is it true it got cancelled because of the Hollywood strikes in 2023? Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time?
>Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf
Can someone please post the Primos pitch bible and leaked episodes while we're spamming "leaks"
>those fricking noses
Why did she think this would stick? Natasha Kline is free to keep those in her own personal doodles, but good GOD did she test everyone at Disney during development. My guess is she was so laser-focused on trying to give her cartoon its own "unique stylistic quirk" that she failed to realize how hideous the rough designs were becoming. Those "noses" are not the same as the Groening overbite or the Roiland eyes.
What we have in the final product may be easier to stomach, but it's still not for everyone.
Can we all agree this should've been made instead of Primos and Hailey? It sounded like the Hilda spiritual successor we all wanted in the best possible way and just fun all around. This is DTVA's Me and My Shadow.
Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here [...] but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf
[...] >Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf
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https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
Star Vs, Molly and Primos got deleted by Disney anyone saved them
>He still doesn't know what litterbox is
Gotta save those links when the iron is hot anon. But because I'm feeling nice:
https://litter.catbox.moe/r8rmsu.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/jsga2l.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/k023p3.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/vxfwf4.pdf
I thoroughly enjoyed Molly, but they already ended it in a satisfying way. Despite people shitting on the leaked third season pitches and scripts, I actually think there were good ideas in there which could've positively impacted the show, but either returning to those or even making new ones from scratch would just undermine what they wound up doing. Maybe a 5 episode revival special run to cover their best S3 ideas as a prelude to the existing finale would be my preference, though at this point just giving something entirely new a chance to exist would be the better option.
>The Ghost and Molly McGee Season 3
But I'd not adapt those S3 scripts, I'd like a movie or miniseries where Molly questions her positivity as she grows up and finds some of the nastier parts of life. Still has a positive tone, but a more existential and relatable topic than comedy fun fluff from the show.
I guess they'd already planned to touch on that more with Patty dying, and the ending itself obviously left her with mixed emotions. Interesting idea for a followup, though I don't know where they'd go with itto keep it feeling like the same show, unless they threw in backflashes to new Molly and Scratch antics.
I loved TGAMM, I don't even think the leaked scripts were that bad. One of my favorite things about the show was the fact that it was a non-serialized cartoon that still managed to have a cast of characters and side characters that developed as the show went on and I just wanted AT LEAST one more season of that to really see how much Brighton could evolve. Also the show was just genuinely really fun to watch, Mercury Filmworks is such a good studio to source your animation to.
I fricking adored Molly McGee. It had practically everything I could ever ask for in a cartoon: gorgeous art style, charming songs, loveable cast, consistent worldbuilding while still maintaining a pleasantly mundane atmosphere, hot milf, knew how to be diverse & progressive without sacrificing humor or sharp comedic timing, and best of all... it was ORIGINAL.
Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run, but I'll always treasure what we have and I'll always be grateful we at least got that final episode to wrap things up in a truly heartwarming way. It's because I hold the show in such high regard that I'm willing to admit there are still ways I feel it could've been better: minor things like utilizing its larger cast more or making the MC's love interest more distinct and interesting. Still, I have far more positive things to say about Molly McGee than negative. Would've been nice to have seen that potential third season fully realized, but I'm still enhappified all the same.
>Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run
Eh, I never really expected it to get such a broad audience as something like Amphibia or Owl show but I still feel like it found a suitable sized audience at least when you compare it to stuff like Kiff or Hailey's (rip to that show too). I was really hoping that would be enough to warrant a Season 3 but I guess Disney's a b***h and it probably would've never happened anyways.
I feel bad that Hailey has the distinction of being the first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season, but tbh I've always personally had it out for the show since I couldn't help but view it as a threat to Molly McGee, as if it was meant to be Disney's cheaper alternative to take Molly McGee's place and guarantee greater success simply by casting Moana's VA as the lead. Auli'i was always the headliner in press releases and even sang the theme song, so I could tell she was intended as the show's main selling point.
I also never found the premise or especially the art style all that alluring, but the TIMING of the show's premiere while I knew Molly McGee was simultaneously on its deathbed was what made my feelings toward Hailey go from indifference to outright malice. I was basically praying for its downfall. I guess I technically got what I wanted, but I just feel empty now. My heart goes out to the crew, but I'll just go right back to desperately hoping Wander Over Yonder gets its final season someday. That's all I've ever really wanted, and that show was left open-ended enough to still leave room for its proposed third season unlike Molly.
>first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season
Last one was either Billy Dilly or Caballeros
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Yeah that was the one I had in mind. Totally forgot about Caballeros since that one is such a peculiar case. Wasn’t it dumped onto Disney+ before they started airing it on Disney Channel in the U.S.?
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>first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season
Last one was either Billy Dilly or Caballeros
>Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run
What? It was somewhat popular early on but they squandered that popularity with dumb hiatuses that went on for months and season 2 being a wet fart. Don't blame the audience for the show's failure.
Patty's story never receiving the intended conclusion was one of the bigger losses, since the concept of her dying for real was probably something they had in mind since the beginning. The whole thing of her burying the hatchet and reconnecting with Linda, along with Molly helping her check off her list, would've tied in well with Molly's realization that Scratch is better off returning to his real life so he doesn't die unfulfilled. Her ghostless death would've made for a nice moment of death being treated as something other than a gag, as well as imply that Scratch/Todd living a similarly fulfilled life would mean that Molly won't just get him back as a ghost as soon as he dies.
I fricking adored Molly McGee. It had practically everything I could ever ask for in a cartoon: gorgeous art style, charming songs, loveable cast, consistent worldbuilding while still maintaining a pleasantly mundane atmosphere, hot milf, knew how to be diverse & progressive without sacrificing humor or sharp comedic timing, and best of all... it was ORIGINAL.
Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run, but I'll always treasure what we have and I'll always be grateful we at least got that final episode to wrap things up in a truly heartwarming way. It's because I hold the show in such high regard that I'm willing to admit there are still ways I feel it could've been better: minor things like utilizing its larger cast more or making the MC's love interest more distinct and interesting. Still, I have far more positive things to say about Molly McGee than negative. Would've been nice to have seen that potential third season fully realized, but I'm still enhappified all the same.
Wish the writing was better, but the animation and voice actors really make it a fun watch
>litter.catbox.moe
WHY THE FRICK DO YOU moronS DO THIS
Literally what part of TEMPORARY UPLOAD do you not understand? Why are you posting a link that 404s an hour after it's posted?
>CANCELED THING GOOD >EXISTING THING BAD >EARLY THING GOOD >FINAL THING BAD
What promotes this mindset? I see it all the time in videogame communities. Just a grass is greener thing?
There's this autism of "what COULD HAVE BEEN" being somehow more SOULFUL than the final result because if the show is medicoer or "censored" in any way it's thanks to "wokeness" and barely ever the blame is put on the companies that publish these IPs, it's just pure moronation. It's why I don't usually go to these threads that's fueled by bad takes on life issues, but I was lead here because a new leak showed up and I just wanted to understand what the frick was going on.
I'm glad I'm not like these generation of morons, it pays being a Millennialboomer that doesn't take this shit seriously. I care more about what the execs do to make something worse, not what the show could have been because it never was going to be that, it's called "brainstorming" for a reason. It's not ideas set in stone, which literally everything in art has gone through.
>What promotes this mindset?
Corporate execs ruining everything original for the sake of cheapness, mass marketability and to justify their own paychecks by adding their own brainless input. Denying this happens just feels like contrarianism for the sake of it.
Except not every example of the "original concept" not getting in is thanks to execs. Saying it isn't a factor is wrong of course, but saying it's ALWAYS a factor to the point nothing release is GOOD in any way is just as mentally moronic. If it wasn't how the creators wanted it, they'd just not make the fricking thing.
>If it wasn't how the creators wanted it, they'd just not make the fricking thing
Except that's not really true because creators are usually faced with the choice between: >insist on what you want and don't get your show made/get fired and someone else will do what we want with your show anyway (see: Lauren Faust) and end up with no job >cave to exec demands and keep earning a paycheck
The answer is really to work outside of the studio system entirely, which is not really hard now the internet exists. Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
>Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
I love that I'm not the only one to notice. The Amazing Digital Circus proves it can be done
The one and only issue is, Youtube gets all that money and they did jack shit for it. If the day people make their own places for art to flourish then that's when the art medium will heal.
>The answer is really to work outside of the studio system entirely, which is not really hard now the internet exists. Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
I've been thinking about this a lot recently after hearing about all the ways shows at DTVA are being just completely mishandled. I really don't understand why people decide to pursue and conform to the studio system in this day and age especially if you're genuinely a creative. Like yea obviously there's going to be struggles and shit associated with going the indie route but SURELY it can't be any worse than what the frick you have to deal with when selling your ideas to an animation studio owned by a multi-trillion dollar media company that barely cares about said studio in the first place?
The creative industries are genuinely one of the most nepotistic, that goes as much for the suits who get their relatives exec jobs doing virtually nothing besides sending emails giving their worthless corporate speak "input" as it does for the actual creatives. This is known by everybody in these industries so a lot of emphasis is put on making connections, particularly when you're studying to get into that kind of career. I think this instils in a lot of creative people the idea they can't possibly make it outside of those established networks, but in an age of streamers and youtubers pulling in millions making content from their bedrooms and artists making decent bank on patreon that's simply not true any more. You can take your content directly to the consumer and if you have a good idea people like, being able to connect with your actual target audience is massively more helpful to your success than connecting with out-of-touch industry insiders who don't understand or believe in it.
I think the only major barrier to independently producing high quality content that needs a lot of investment is how wary people are of things like kickstarter now after so many projects have just flaked on their promises and given crowdfunding a bad name. The same kinda goes for "early access" games.
You know why cats howl when they have sex? It’s because they have barbed penises that destroy the vegana on the way out, and it ruins you for all the other cats
Not to be the cat sex autist but it's to actually allow the last cat to screw the female a higher chance of impregnating her by scraping the semen of the previous cats out, so the opposite of what you stated.
>tfw Ginger would've absolutely turned into a cat at some point in the show and we would've gotten an episode from her perspective in cat form in this world
She wasn't the only woman to accuse Savino of workplace harassment. Apparently "a dozen women" were cited back when the news first broke. We'll never know how many of those other women had their own poor interactions with Savino versus how many were just siding with Cheyenne, but based on what Savino later revealed, Cheyenne specifically was a colleague he had an affair with who was so insecure and preoccupied with being part of an "animation power couple" that she must've felt slighted when The Loud House was finally bought by Nick.
I'd call it karmic justice that Savino's legacy continues to be spread by a major company while Cheyenne's dream cartoon couldn't even get to the pilot stage, but Katz Cafe honestly just didn't feel like it had much going on anyway. Their whole affair situation could've been handled better, but it also could've turned out MUCH worse.
You know, back int he early 10s shows got cancelled too soon (Tron, Motorcity) , in the late 10s shows where cancelled before they even came out ( Three Caballeros) and now they are getting cancelled before they are even before they are made.
A decade from now the pitch meeting will only be a room with a paper shrewder you send your pitch bible
>single mums >11 years old >have an animal sidekick >attract the supernatural unlike any other >both start their story by moving to a new town >said town introduces them to their new best friends >have a similar personality in wanting to help people >short as frick >live in a cozy ass world
>a spunky girl moves to an unfamiliar town where she comes into contact with the supernatural by chance and tries to befriend both it and her newfound relationships alongside an animal sidekick and her mother
Hilda, Molly, and Ginger are the same
This sounds similar to that manga that only had ova adaptations, where a girl (that is also a cyborg) attends the only cafe in a post apocalypse scenario >cal arts style
Nah i dont care
Will we ever get early Hamster & Gretel material? I'm super interested in how they came up with the final style. It's such a huge departure from the two previous Dwampyverse shows that I have to assume Disney rushed through its development.
Someone prove or disprove the existence of Katz Cafe's pilot animatic. Words aren't strong enough to either disprove or prove that one was produced or not.
No one knows for sure besides the concept art, which is the only thing made so far, looking for the animatics is far beyond approaching in the vault. As far as anyone knows, there was never an animatic made.
With all the layoffs and strikes and the messy state DTVA is in, I doubt Disney is going to revive the project and give it a second chance. While I want it and do believe there is an audience for it based on reactions, it would take a miracle for that to happen.
This guy is such a fricking loser. Leaks like these should be kept on the down-low either here on Cinemaphile, on Discord, or in private groupchats. You've gotta be the lamest person alive to want to spread this openly on Twitter every single time something is leaked.
The more people that work on something, the more likely one of them will have a reason to leak stuff. Sometimes it's unintentional like they send it to a friend for only them to see or they get hacked or upload to somewhere that others can access. But it's mostly a disgruntled employee.
And it's also worth keeping in mind that there are low level employees beyond the key production staff (illustrators, animators, writers, editors, etc) who wind up with access to these things who probably feel safe to leak shit and don't really care if it winds up hurting the IP or the company.
Either that or there was a hack.
I would assume a hack happened, usually show staff are limited to accessing only the show they're supposed to work on but these leakers seem to got everything from the 2010+ era of disney cartoons to the most recent stuff, even having access to full episodes that have not aired yet. That's not really the kind of content you let any single employee just be able to have.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140551992/#q140563433
and then there's of course the thread where ducktales model sheets only a staff member could have were posted
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140314666/#q140314666
and more recently, the molly mcgee model sheets leaking
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/141546052/#q141548945
just a lot of signs that I think point out that some breach happened if it wasn't obvious enough from all the leaks that have been happening in the last year, from pilots to pitch bibles and this stuff
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Oh hey, thanks anon. Could be cool seeing these. And yeah, something clearly happened that resulted in a lot of information falling into the wrong hands. Weird how it's all seemingly happening only recently.
This is the company that thought Three Cabs was going to offend Latinos but Primos was going to be seen as inspiring latinx content
They don't know what the frick they're doing
There's some rumors they are going to basically dump the entire thing at once and get it over with
Which I'd just not release the entire series, there's zero way this isn't going to be trashed as soon as it comes out no matter how much time they spend to fix the Spanish
It wouldn't be too surprising to see them dump the whole season at once. That would be one way for them to try to bury the show. But it's hard to know how they'll really handle that show. I mean they already delayed it at least once.
No they wouldn't
This was a dead concept that Ollie & Scoops brought to production first with better concept of what it was >But muh repre–
Frick you
I'm a israelite and I'm sick of seeing more israelites on tv
This was a crap pitch deck with the kind of moron woobies we'd find in 2000s deviantArt who have no real flaws or personalities
Frick you, move on and form a second idea if that's at all possible
Cat cafes are inherently disgusting and I hope the surprise moral at the end would've been that the health inspector shutting them down was best for the cats and the community
>Mc with a secret dosn't keep her secret
Man this sounded great
Would the tweest ending be that the health inspector is actually the hero and doing his community a service by shutting down the disgusting cat cafe where the animals are getting in the kitchen and nibbling on the ingredients and shitting all over the floor when they get stressed out?
>Ginger vs. the Cat World
So basically Littlest Pet Shop.
>404
You failed
must've gotten deleted.
Cute nerd
So...Darryl McGee
Same thought I had, but the design is cuter.
And in the end he turns out to actually be a depressed old human man.
Crumpet should have been voiced by Zach Hadel or Danny Devito
>Tee-hee the catbox never existed also here's some fake sketches on a white background
YOU HAVE BEEN SPAMMING YOUR LARP FOR 3 FRICKING YEARS
If a tree falls in a forest with no one around, does it make a sound?
Only if it gets leaked.
those character comparisons are the reason shit sucks nowadays, characters have to be derivative in a way execs can easily understand or else they won't sign off on the pitch
I think this is the only time I've seen "character comparisons" as part of a pitch bible
>character comparisons
>here's three characters whose only shared trait is being the main protagonist of a story
They teach this in art school?
When was the last time we had a redhead protagonist?
I thought this was fake.
damn this aesthetic is cute. it would 100% appeal to the girl audience disney is (was?) looking for.
I feel it leans too heavily into it SVTFOE didn’t have buildings this overwhelmingly pastel
Last pic
Thanks op. The artist clearly had a passion for this project, it's sad to see her put so much of herself into something that never got greenlit.
One big issue I'm seeing with Katz Cafe's pitch bible is that there isn't nearly as much art compared to the one for Primos. I can see that Cheyenne Curtis clearly put a lot of thought into the premise and themes and characters, but for a presentation meant to quickly sell a concept, visual aids would surely come a long way. TV executives have to sort through TONS of shit in development, so a bunch of slides with Google images of the movies and locations that "inspired" your show will just get boring very easily.
Natasha Kline's doodles are grotesque, but they at least keep your attention. The Latino representation likely also gave it an extra advantage, but that's another conversation
Yeah that's the first thing I noticed comparing Katz with all the other pitch bibles in this thread, where's the art?
I think some pitches are like that, a lot of text. But to get greenlit the pitch has to be really solid, not just cat stuff.
Now I'm curious how TV writers tend to pitch their cartoon ideas, the ones who've only WRITTEN on cartoons but have no artistic skill. The Molly McGee pitch packet shared in this thread is clearly from when Disney was already set to put it into production--very different from the Katz and Primos ones--but beforehand did Bill & Bob really just have a paragraph they'd read aloud whenever they'd pitch their shows over the years? How did the Hailey's On It guys pitch their cartoon?
Either way, Cheyenne should've commissioned some of her friends to help draw up some rough background concepts and at least add some COLOR to her character designs. Not everyone can play an instrument to accompany their pitch like Dan & Swampy or Pen Ward, so at least give me SOMETHING in your early art.
*israeli representation*
Rest in piss. I hope you never get a show greenlit
>Secret lineage that gives her powers
I bet a million that she was going to have her own super saiyan form in the finale
She was going to turn into a cat
Godomino?
>Kids love food
Humans generally dislike starving
> The kitchen is technically off-limits to the cats, but that never stops Crumpet from sneaking back there
health code violation waiting to happen STAT
>Constant discovery of turds in the flour
fricking dio
SHE'S SO FRICKING CUTE
Why did they have to make them israeli?
I already hate Fancy Todd
Instant shit. Like the b***h from the other show, they try to make terrible characters "fan favorites"
she would have been Cinemaphile's favorite
Would be better with her hair down
you know like the examples.
wild child should have unkempt wild hair
Oh, it's real alright. Real DEAD!
Anyone who unironically thinks this is real needs to be castrated
I guess you can say that the cat is now out of the back
>back
You had one job, Carlos
This is just Ollie and Scoops.
its really not. At least the girl here is cute
eh previous girl is cute
you just know they canceled it because the protag is a read head
don’t know what that means but sure.
A bookworm
Do you have the full molly mcgee pitch bible?
This is literally just Hilda and Gochuisa fused together
>The Cat And israelitey McGee.
Does anyone have the pilot animatic of Katz Cafe, or animation tests of it?
Doesn't exist, KC was a rejected pitch, nothing else. It was optioned but never went into further development than that.
Why was it never made? Is there anything more than a pitch bible for it? Is it true it got cancelled because of the Hollywood strikes in 2023? Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time?
>Why was it never made
Because it's a larp by the fake TVA/Anytown spammer
It doesn't exist and never has
>It doesn't exist and never has
I dunno, this seems pretty legit.
It's the fakest looking shit I've ever seen and this person has been spamming this larp with fake links for years
DTVA wants only reboots and franchise related shows now. This started before the strikes. Stugo was the last original greenlit AFAIK.
>white protagonist
>no forced gayslop mentioned anywhere
Gee I wonder why.
Isn't she a J?
Yes, but is she a brown lesbian israelite? Didn't think so.
The final show is such an upgrade in animation, we'll never get a show as good looking as that on DTVA ever again
Shame it was wasted on such a bad script though. The 8 Crazy Nights of DTVA
>The 8 Crazy Nights of DTVA
Fricking idiot
It's fun and surreal to see what could've been, but yes, the final designs and style were a definite upgrade from the test pilot.
>KC was a rejected pitch
Man, that's a shame.
A pilot does exist as mentioned from Cheyenne in the Creative Block podcast at 28:00, but now its hidden away in the vault by Disney
Does nobody have access to it?
Anyone got a reupload? I wanna see the Molly Mcgee test animations.
https://archive.org/details/molly-mcgee-pilot
>404 NOT FOUND
FRICK reupload please
I don't understand where the meme that this is fake came from. It was a very real development project that was never greenlit and was long rejected by the time it was leaked. Probably a visdev artist who worked on the pitch had it in their portfolio and gave their NDA password to someone socially engineering them.
https://litter.catbox.moe/y626fn.pdf
>Guyz I swear this is real
>404 not found
Lol
Lmao
This. The only thing shared in this thread that's actually a show is cringe Molly shit and no one wants to see that show after it became The Ollie Show
The Molly one too then? Good to see this one. You happen to have any others or a reupload of Katz?
Katz was just a pdf of the images that are being reposted here
but sure. https://litter.catbox.moe/0qrfoi.pdf
>Why was it rumored to be DTVA's 100th show for the longest time
No, and I don't fricking know, it's just a random development project that got leaked. There are literally hundreds of these you have never heard of. This just happened to get leaked out of those and for some reason a couple of DTVA autists latched onto it.
I don't understand why people are still being so schizophrenic about it. I guess this stuff I'm posting here is AI generated or something. https://litter.catbox.moe/tnh6my.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
>https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
Holy frick how is the art in the Bible even WORSE than the actual show? How did this get greenlit?
>https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
Wow, I can't believe it looked that bad. Those noses are genuinely disgusting.
>primos was even uglier in its pitch
dios mio…
Those hacks said that Alfonso and Ferguson were mandated by the suits but they were in the pitch bible all along
The Star one looks more like as show bible from the middle of development than an initial pitch.
You do know there can be changes even while the bible is being made, right?
>those fricking noses
Why did she think this would stick? Natasha Kline is free to keep those in her own personal doodles, but good GOD did she test everyone at Disney during development. My guess is she was so laser-focused on trying to give her cartoon its own "unique stylistic quirk" that she failed to realize how hideous the rough designs were becoming. Those "noses" are not the same as the Groening overbite or the Roiland eyes.
What we have in the final product may be easier to stomach, but it's still not for everyone.
Can we all agree this should've been made instead of Primos and Hailey? It sounded like the Hilda spiritual successor we all wanted in the best possible way and just fun all around. This is DTVA's Me and My Shadow.
not fair anything is better than the primos but yeah it seems cute.
Yes, but I think Katz will become a show in the near future
Star Vs, Molly and Primos got deleted by Disney anyone saved them
>He still doesn't know what litterbox is
Gotta save those links when the iron is hot anon. But because I'm feeling nice:
https://litter.catbox.moe/r8rmsu.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/jsga2l.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/k023p3.pdf
https://litter.catbox.moe/vxfwf4.pdf
NTA but do you mind reposting what I assume was the katz cafe animatic/pilot? I wanna watch it and I missed the links before because of work
It was the pilot for Molly McGee, not Katz. I don't have a copy saved.
>don't have a copy saved
of the Katz pilot?
Are you mentally challenged?
Do you happen to have The Owl House's bible? I think it's the only pitch bible left from DTVA that hasn't surfaced.
Anon, this board isn't the inbox for Disney Channel, you need to spam your pitches there not here.
pitch spam would be better than twitter screenshots if they just linked a pdf of all the images
Tell me other Disney leaks, what about that show about vampire kids from the Kiff creator.
Can someone please post the Primos pitch bible and leaked episodes while we're spamming "leaks"
God no frick off.
I'm guessing the show didn't move forward because room wasn't made for song bursts each episode.
This is something I'd expect to see as a Kickstarter.
No wonder Disney passed on it.
Man frick Bob Iger
Post the Kiff bible.
>sounds kino
>gets rejected
why is Disney like this?
1. She isn't brown
2. She isn't brown
Also no songs. This is the musical era.
Was Katz not meant to have any musical numbers?
Not a first time
%3D
Requesting a drawing of Frolie and Grandpa speaking with Ginger and Crumpet on the Katz Cat Cafe
Requesting Ginger telling a Disney exc to frick off in cat language, bonus points if it's Bob Iger
kino
it doesn't
Wow, Tater in the show is somehow a significant improvement.
>nose and eyes are a mutilated dick and balls
Also apparently the attic full of fiberglass from the pilot isn't actually her bedroom, which means it'll probably be in the final show after all
At least they actually addressed it
The bible dosn't mention the controversial names, it seems that those where forced by Disney without asking an actual latino
Link?
In this thread
The link's dead for me
frick man now i'm sad, specially cause i really like cheyenne curtis' art
>https://litter.catbox.moe/57h4rl.pdf
Link is dead, can someone reupload it or Disney lawyers want to revive it
Read the thread.
frick Disney
i do not like cheyenne curtis but this show looks like it could’ve been so cute.
Pick one for DTVA to revive
>Katz Cafe
>The Ghost and Molly McGee Season 3
Katz, we saw what Mc and Mortey season 3 would be like.
Molly had its time, I was already really looking forward to this show 🙁
Katz, and it isn't even close.
I thoroughly enjoyed Molly, but they already ended it in a satisfying way. Despite people shitting on the leaked third season pitches and scripts, I actually think there were good ideas in there which could've positively impacted the show, but either returning to those or even making new ones from scratch would just undermine what they wound up doing. Maybe a 5 episode revival special run to cover their best S3 ideas as a prelude to the existing finale would be my preference, though at this point just giving something entirely new a chance to exist would be the better option.
>The Ghost and Molly McGee Season 3
But I'd not adapt those S3 scripts, I'd like a movie or miniseries where Molly questions her positivity as she grows up and finds some of the nastier parts of life. Still has a positive tone, but a more existential and relatable topic than comedy fun fluff from the show.
I guess they'd already planned to touch on that more with Patty dying, and the ending itself obviously left her with mixed emotions. Interesting idea for a followup, though I don't know where they'd go with itto keep it feeling like the same show, unless they threw in backflashes to new Molly and Scratch antics.
I loved TGAMM, I don't even think the leaked scripts were that bad. One of my favorite things about the show was the fact that it was a non-serialized cartoon that still managed to have a cast of characters and side characters that developed as the show went on and I just wanted AT LEAST one more season of that to really see how much Brighton could evolve. Also the show was just genuinely really fun to watch, Mercury Filmworks is such a good studio to source your animation to.
I fricking adored Molly McGee. It had practically everything I could ever ask for in a cartoon: gorgeous art style, charming songs, loveable cast, consistent worldbuilding while still maintaining a pleasantly mundane atmosphere, hot milf, knew how to be diverse & progressive without sacrificing humor or sharp comedic timing, and best of all... it was ORIGINAL.
Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run, but I'll always treasure what we have and I'll always be grateful we at least got that final episode to wrap things up in a truly heartwarming way. It's because I hold the show in such high regard that I'm willing to admit there are still ways I feel it could've been better: minor things like utilizing its larger cast more or making the MC's love interest more distinct and interesting. Still, I have far more positive things to say about Molly McGee than negative. Would've been nice to have seen that potential third season fully realized, but I'm still enhappified all the same.
>Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run
Eh, I never really expected it to get such a broad audience as something like Amphibia or Owl show but I still feel like it found a suitable sized audience at least when you compare it to stuff like Kiff or Hailey's (rip to that show too). I was really hoping that would be enough to warrant a Season 3 but I guess Disney's a b***h and it probably would've never happened anyways.
I feel bad that Hailey has the distinction of being the first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season, but tbh I've always personally had it out for the show since I couldn't help but view it as a threat to Molly McGee, as if it was meant to be Disney's cheaper alternative to take Molly McGee's place and guarantee greater success simply by casting Moana's VA as the lead. Auli'i was always the headliner in press releases and even sang the theme song, so I could tell she was intended as the show's main selling point.
I also never found the premise or especially the art style all that alluring, but the TIMING of the show's premiere while I knew Molly McGee was simultaneously on its deathbed was what made my feelings toward Hailey go from indifference to outright malice. I was basically praying for its downfall. I guess I technically got what I wanted, but I just feel empty now. My heart goes out to the crew, but I'll just go right back to desperately hoping Wander Over Yonder gets its final season someday. That's all I've ever really wanted, and that show was left open-ended enough to still leave room for its proposed third season unlike Molly.
>first Disney TVA original in YEARS to get killed off after just one season
Last one was either Billy Dilly or Caballeros
Yeah that was the one I had in mind. Totally forgot about Caballeros since that one is such a peculiar case. Wasn’t it dumped onto Disney+ before they started airing it on Disney Channel in the U.S.?
Future-Worm! also lasted 1 season
>Caballeros
Not a TVA show.
>Really pissed me off to see so many people sleep on the show during its incredibly brief run
What? It was somewhat popular early on but they squandered that popularity with dumb hiatuses that went on for months and season 2 being a wet fart. Don't blame the audience for the show's failure.
Patty's story never receiving the intended conclusion was one of the bigger losses, since the concept of her dying for real was probably something they had in mind since the beginning. The whole thing of her burying the hatchet and reconnecting with Linda, along with Molly helping her check off her list, would've tied in well with Molly's realization that Scratch is better off returning to his real life so he doesn't die unfulfilled. Her ghostless death would've made for a nice moment of death being treated as something other than a gag, as well as imply that Scratch/Todd living a similarly fulfilled life would mean that Molly won't just get him back as a ghost as soon as he dies.
Wish the writing was better, but the animation and voice actors really make it a fun watch
>Katz Cafe is to Primos what Popeye is to The Emoji Movie
Disney you deleted the link, if you're reading this frick you
The link was dead when the thread went up, OP is just stupid and posted an old litterbox link.
>litter.catbox.moe
WHY THE FRICK DO YOU moronS DO THIS
Literally what part of TEMPORARY UPLOAD do you not understand? Why are you posting a link that 404s an hour after it's posted?
>he doesn't immediate archive every Litterbox leak he sees to his data packrat drive just in case it's useful later.
archive.org
>CANCELED THING GOOD
>EXISTING THING BAD
>EARLY THING GOOD
>FINAL THING BAD
What promotes this mindset? I see it all the time in videogame communities. Just a grass is greener thing?
There's this autism of "what COULD HAVE BEEN" being somehow more SOULFUL than the final result because if the show is medicoer or "censored" in any way it's thanks to "wokeness" and barely ever the blame is put on the companies that publish these IPs, it's just pure moronation. It's why I don't usually go to these threads that's fueled by bad takes on life issues, but I was lead here because a new leak showed up and I just wanted to understand what the frick was going on.
I'm glad I'm not like these generation of morons, it pays being a Millennialboomer that doesn't take this shit seriously. I care more about what the execs do to make something worse, not what the show could have been because it never was going to be that, it's called "brainstorming" for a reason. It's not ideas set in stone, which literally everything in art has gone through.
B-b-b-but WE WERE ROBBED
>What promotes this mindset?
Corporate execs ruining everything original for the sake of cheapness, mass marketability and to justify their own paychecks by adding their own brainless input. Denying this happens just feels like contrarianism for the sake of it.
Except not every example of the "original concept" not getting in is thanks to execs. Saying it isn't a factor is wrong of course, but saying it's ALWAYS a factor to the point nothing release is GOOD in any way is just as mentally moronic. If it wasn't how the creators wanted it, they'd just not make the fricking thing.
>If it wasn't how the creators wanted it, they'd just not make the fricking thing
Except that's not really true because creators are usually faced with the choice between:
>insist on what you want and don't get your show made/get fired and someone else will do what we want with your show anyway (see: Lauren Faust) and end up with no job
>cave to exec demands and keep earning a paycheck
The answer is really to work outside of the studio system entirely, which is not really hard now the internet exists. Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
>Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
I love that I'm not the only one to notice. The Amazing Digital Circus proves it can be done
The one and only issue is, Youtube gets all that money and they did jack shit for it. If the day people make their own places for art to flourish then that's when the art medium will heal.
>The Amazing Digital Circus proves it can be done
And Monkey Wrench demonstrates the struggles of going indie. Success isn't guaranteed.
No one said it was. But there's far more freedom from non company partnership.
>The answer is really to work outside of the studio system entirely, which is not really hard now the internet exists. Most people are just too wedded to the boomer way of doing things.
I've been thinking about this a lot recently after hearing about all the ways shows at DTVA are being just completely mishandled. I really don't understand why people decide to pursue and conform to the studio system in this day and age especially if you're genuinely a creative. Like yea obviously there's going to be struggles and shit associated with going the indie route but SURELY it can't be any worse than what the frick you have to deal with when selling your ideas to an animation studio owned by a multi-trillion dollar media company that barely cares about said studio in the first place?
The creative industries are genuinely one of the most nepotistic, that goes as much for the suits who get their relatives exec jobs doing virtually nothing besides sending emails giving their worthless corporate speak "input" as it does for the actual creatives. This is known by everybody in these industries so a lot of emphasis is put on making connections, particularly when you're studying to get into that kind of career. I think this instils in a lot of creative people the idea they can't possibly make it outside of those established networks, but in an age of streamers and youtubers pulling in millions making content from their bedrooms and artists making decent bank on patreon that's simply not true any more. You can take your content directly to the consumer and if you have a good idea people like, being able to connect with your actual target audience is massively more helpful to your success than connecting with out-of-touch industry insiders who don't understand or believe in it.
I think the only major barrier to independently producing high quality content that needs a lot of investment is how wary people are of things like kickstarter now after so many projects have just flaked on their promises and given crowdfunding a bad name. The same kinda goes for "early access" games.
>Like something you didn't get: grass is greener
>Dislike something you didn't get: sour grapes
The fakest larp ever posted to this board holy shit this is laughably fake and bad
You should feel bad for dragging this on for years
https://desuarchive.org/co/search/text/katz%20cafe/type/op/page/2/
2 1/2 years my god
Finally, some news about this
Frick, nevermind, read the rest of the thread
Exactly how I felt 🙁
What did you think it was?
I thought it was going to be neat SOL, maybe a talking cat or two, but it got increasingly outlandish and amateur
WE GOTTA GET KATZ CAFE BACK
>no love interest anywhere
Isn't that a good thing?
is that supposed to be a good or bad thing?
she's gonna get dyked bro
Nah she would have been "Disney's tm first asexual character"
You know why cats howl when they have sex? It’s because they have barbed penises that destroy the vegana on the way out, and it ruins you for all the other cats
Not to be the cat sex autist but it's to actually allow the last cat to screw the female a higher chance of impregnating her by scraping the semen of the previous cats out, so the opposite of what you stated.
It’s just a reference to an old thing
You fool, it would have been DTVAs first asexual character beacuse nobody cared about Lily Clawthorne.
>asexual
Not having her frick another character doesn't make her a good asexual representation.
>tfw Ginger would've absolutely turned into a cat at some point in the show and we would've gotten an episode from her perspective in cat form in this world
What is even the appeal of this leaked shit?
What is this show? Just a redhead doing normal life shit?
Hilda but in a cat cafe
And remind me, what the frick was Hilda about? Never watched it.
European folk tales creatures are real and a girls goes exploring the wilderness encountering giants, trolls and other sorts of magical creatures.
Get off Cinemaphile and go watch it, infinitely better use of your time, it's kino.
Looks like the schrodinger Katz was dead after all.
Wouldn’t the cat suffocate if the box was complete airtight?
Good point.
Isn't this the same person who got Chris Savino fired from Nickelodeon?
Yeah actually
What goes around comes around
She wasn't the only woman to accuse Savino of workplace harassment. Apparently "a dozen women" were cited back when the news first broke. We'll never know how many of those other women had their own poor interactions with Savino versus how many were just siding with Cheyenne, but based on what Savino later revealed, Cheyenne specifically was a colleague he had an affair with who was so insecure and preoccupied with being part of an "animation power couple" that she must've felt slighted when The Loud House was finally bought by Nick.
I'd call it karmic justice that Savino's legacy continues to be spread by a major company while Cheyenne's dream cartoon couldn't even get to the pilot stage, but Katz Cafe honestly just didn't feel like it had much going on anyway. Their whole affair situation could've been handled better, but it also could've turned out MUCH worse.
>Katz Cafe honestly just didn't feel like it had much going on anyway
neither does Loud House tbh. KC at least feels like a Hilda spiritual successor
>KC at least feels like a Hilda spiritual successor
That sounds more like a cope.
The funniest shit in the world would be if Katz Cafe pulled a Nimona and got revived at a different studio
Disney owns it according to Cheyenne,she inderectly told it on a tweet by Matt Braly, sadly she locked her account.
>https://twitter.com/VincentBecherer/status/1737479088359546940
Damn hopefully Disney will rethink and get it greenlight but then again one can hope.
You know, back int he early 10s shows got cancelled too soon (Tron, Motorcity) , in the late 10s shows where cancelled before they even came out ( Three Caballeros) and now they are getting cancelled before they are even before they are made.
A decade from now the pitch meeting will only be a room with a paper shrewder you send your pitch bible
let me sum up the thread for you
word salads + mucho texto killed the show
What is the difference between them?
Hilda is a quarter fairy, while Ginger is a pennypussy
Ginger can't take yards of troll dick
whats even similar between them?
The way the eyes are drawn I guess?
I'm not sure why people keep comparing the style, that's the only similarity.
I guess simple cozy setting with girl protag is enough of a comparison
>single mums
>11 years old
>have an animal sidekick
>attract the supernatural unlike any other
>both start their story by moving to a new town
>said town introduces them to their new best friends
>have a similar personality in wanting to help people
>short as frick
>live in a cozy ass world
Half of these are generic ideas present in like a million stories
Thoughts on the four episode plots we have?
>Mapple Butter Madness
>Five Gold Paws
>Oujia Bored
>Missing Meows
Reminder that one of the TGAMM S3 scripts has a reference to Katz Cafe
So it was going to be Molly's sister show
>WDAS: Gigantic
>Pixar: Newt
>DTVA: Katz Cafe
Lol those first two at least went through development. Seems Katz Cafe was gutted at just the pitching stage
Funny how this thread went from "This is Fake" to "This would have been the best new DTVA show, we were robbed."
I would sacrifice every ongoing DTVA show right now just so Katz could happen for real
>a spunky girl moves to an unfamiliar town where she comes into contact with the supernatural by chance and tries to befriend both it and her newfound relationships alongside an animal sidekick and her mother
Hilda, Molly, and Ginger are the same
>Molly
>animal sidekick
This sounds similar to that manga that only had ova adaptations, where a girl (that is also a cyborg) attends the only cafe in a post apocalypse scenario
>cal arts style
Nah i dont care
it looked super cute and comfy too as this generation's hilda 🙁
>this generation's Hilda
This generation's Hilda IS Hilda
Hilda came out six years ago
>all these shows are getting canned because they decided to bring back that geriatric homosexual to Disney in 2022
dope
God I hope there's still hope for this show
There's no way Disney actually revives the idea despite all the shit it has gone through, right?
there's a chance for it to go to another network, right?
>tfw Netflix gets it from Disney
cast her VA
Dolores Madrigal VA
Sapphire from Steven Universe
Dolores Madrigal from Encanto
Candy Wu from Gravity Falls
B-MO from Adventure Time
Darn, I missed all the file uploads. Could someone share, please?
Nope.
It's going to be funny as frick once the general public is aware of Katz Cafe's existence and rage at Disney even more for passing it to make Primos
>implying
The twits on blue bird site are praising Primos.
No one is “praising” Primos outside baiters
Well I hope you're right, because there's a homosexual on /trash/ who constantly praises it.
*Theres a pedophile on /trash/ somehow turned on by the disgusting designs and hypes it up because they want to frick one of the girls
any more art of Ginger?
Someone made fan art of her in 2023 once. I hope someone in here draws her.
I can immediately tell that htis artist does e-girl porn based on how he drew her here
>kitty is not a cat but with more focus on boring human characters
Why else would he draw a girl from a dead pitch?
For a girl whose show never got past the pitching stage, she sure has a lot of fanart.
This scene but with Libby and Ginger
?feature=shared
Did Chris Savino know of Katz Cafe?
Is there any chance this show gets picked up?
If they drop the creator who lied to ruin a man's life and career, sure.
>tfw no cute fan art of Hilda visiting Katz Cafe and becoming best friends with Ginger
🙁
Up you go.
Up where?
Up.
Up up
Will we ever get early Hamster & Gretel material? I'm super interested in how they came up with the final style. It's such a huge departure from the two previous Dwampyverse shows that I have to assume Disney rushed through its development.
Where did you find the pitch bible for H&G?
I didn't. That's just a casting call for Kevin someone shared here a while ago.
Someone prove or disprove the existence of Katz Cafe's pilot animatic. Words aren't strong enough to either disprove or prove that one was produced or not.
No one knows for sure besides the concept art, which is the only thing made so far, looking for the animatics is far beyond approaching in the vault. As far as anyone knows, there was never an animatic made.
Odds of this being real?
With all the layoffs and strikes and the messy state DTVA is in, I doubt Disney is going to revive the project and give it a second chance. While I want it and do believe there is an audience for it based on reactions, it would take a miracle for that to happen.
Is Iger's return the reason we haven't gotten any news on new DTVA shows?
This guy is such a fricking loser. Leaks like these should be kept on the down-low either here on Cinemaphile, on Discord, or in private groupchats. You've gotta be the lamest person alive to want to spread this openly on Twitter every single time something is leaked.
>on Discord, or in private groupchats
>Noooo! my leaks that I've been gatekeeping on discord for months have been posted on twitter whatever will I do?!
go cry about it
I have to ask: Why exactly do leaks happen? Is it because of disgruntled employees or what?
The more people that work on something, the more likely one of them will have a reason to leak stuff. Sometimes it's unintentional like they send it to a friend for only them to see or they get hacked or upload to somewhere that others can access. But it's mostly a disgruntled employee.
And it's also worth keeping in mind that there are low level employees beyond the key production staff (illustrators, animators, writers, editors, etc) who wind up with access to these things who probably feel safe to leak shit and don't really care if it winds up hurting the IP or the company.
Either that or there was a hack.
I would assume a hack happened, usually show staff are limited to accessing only the show they're supposed to work on but these leakers seem to got everything from the 2010+ era of disney cartoons to the most recent stuff, even having access to full episodes that have not aired yet. That's not really the kind of content you let any single employee just be able to have.
When did the Gravity Falls sheets leak?
Show me the Pacifica one.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140551992/#q140563433
and then there's of course the thread where ducktales model sheets only a staff member could have were posted
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/140314666/#q140314666
and more recently, the molly mcgee model sheets leaking
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/141546052/#q141548945
just a lot of signs that I think point out that some breach happened if it wasn't obvious enough from all the leaks that have been happening in the last year, from pilots to pitch bibles and this stuff
Oh hey, thanks anon. Could be cool seeing these. And yeah, something clearly happened that resulted in a lot of information falling into the wrong hands. Weird how it's all seemingly happening only recently.
People have been asking for Katz leaks since it first got rumored to exist
why was Disney thinking
>almost everyone here enjoyed the pitch bible for Katz Cafe
>Disney greenlits Hailey's on It, StuGo, and Primos instead
>almost everyone here enjoyed the pitch bible for Katz Cafe
why do you lie
This is the company that thought Three Cabs was going to offend Latinos but Primos was going to be seen as inspiring latinx content
They don't know what the frick they're doing
I generally hope Primos gets dunked so hard on its first episode the show gets cancelled immediately
>Primos gets dunked hard enough that Disney kills it right away and decides to revive Katz Cafe out of desperation
There's some rumors they are going to basically dump the entire thing at once and get it over with
Which I'd just not release the entire series, there's zero way this isn't going to be trashed as soon as it comes out no matter how much time they spend to fix the Spanish
It wouldn't be too surprising to see them dump the whole season at once. That would be one way for them to try to bury the show. But it's hard to know how they'll really handle that show. I mean they already delayed it at least once.
It comes out in four months I think
So June then? I had thought either that or July. Guess it checks out. Makes sense that the Summer of Tater would premiere on Summer.
The premise and design on KK is really nice, but as a pitch bible it kind of sucks
If it actually was Katz Cafe, people would've cared
No they wouldn't
This was a dead concept that Ollie & Scoops brought to production first with better concept of what it was
>But muh repre–
Frick you
I'm a israelite and I'm sick of seeing more israelites on tv
This was a crap pitch deck with the kind of moron woobies we'd find in 2000s deviantArt who have no real flaws or personalities
Frick you, move on and form a second idea if that's at all possible
Ollie & Scoops looks like shit tho, it's nothing like this.
They know now.
There are fates worse than death
Cat cafes are inherently disgusting and I hope the surprise moral at the end would've been that the health inspector shutting them down was best for the cats and the community