Sword Master
You'll notice Allison has switched eating hands here, we're not quite sure how she's adjusting to doing her makeup but it seems to be going ok
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Kill Six Billion Demons?
>I want to visit your restaurant someday.
Maya needed this.
>Yeah, all this shit about fate and swords and shit is pretty cringe
>So anyway I just keep on moving forward
Yes, yes, much Royalty. I guess this is where it was always going to end up. Allison's character development is a drilling motion: completely circular but her power level keeps advancing nevertheless.
So can we finally get to learn what's been going on with Allison's friends now that she's done another lap around the monomyth track?
But how can she be royalty if she's stuck in her own cycle?
And therein lies the subtle problem.
Makes sense, Earthlings have been WAY beyond swords for years. All these martial artists running around hitting each other with their bodies is some cringe monkey behavior. They're all too shitty and disorganized to manage proper armies and weapons so they got culturally fixated on the pointy bit of metal as the ultimate 'tool of war' which is just laughable nonsense to anybody from modern Earth.
We need more gun-fu characters
Whatever happened to Lucky Felicia?
I want Allison to ride the lightning back to Earth and shanghai an F-16 pilot and his jet for the final battle. No excuse not to right? Kind of crazy that she knows about all these armies and weapons way more nuts than anything Throne has ever seen and doesn't even think to bring them in.
Then she can have a climactic swordfight with Incubus on top of the jet in midair while its going in for its attack run on Jagganoth! This shit writes itself.
>way more nuts than anything Throne has ever seen
Solomon can stop time. Within stopped time. And then punch hard enough to break the fabric of reality.
Thats magic though, he's gotta do his gay breathing techniques he studied for thousands of years and power up by getting the shit kicked out of him first before he can get it ready. Also he's dead!
Even if they're totally worthless and ineffective jets are cool enough that Jagganoth would def put off destroying the universe for at least a couple weeks to go check out Earth's unheard of killing machines first. One world making tools that can vaporize cities and kill faster than the human eye can comprehend with ZERO empowerment from the stolen words of God OR any contact with the rest of the universe is impressive, admit it! Normally somebody has to conquer 1/7th of creation to do shit like that but here we train 18 year old kids to do it in just a few years.
Abbadon has already stated Earth would hold out for a little bit from an invasion of Throne but would still fall. You're severely overestimating what people are capable of in KSBDs, you don't need the power of gods to wipe out cities nor kill faster than the human eye. Not to mention all that technology would be nearly useless to Jagganoth, since it can't be brought out of Earth's universe. Not to mention Jagganoth and his forces are the ultimate force in destruction, his army would know ways to end life that would make Earth blush.
>Not to mention all that technology would be nearly useless to Jagganoth,
Earth tech would actually be very useful to him. Some bleeding edge modern weapons would be useless, but the equally sophisticated machinery used to produce them could be repurposed to mass produce exportable equipment of extremely high quality. Perfect spring steel for swords and knives, inhumanly precise machining for guns and vehicles, super reliable ammo and such. He'd turn Earth into a miserable forge world.
> Perfect spring steel for swords and knives, inhumanly precise machining for guns and vehicles, super reliable ammo and such.
Mottom had all of that. She had an entire army of high-tech guys with firearms, armored vehicles and air support - we literally saw it when she invaded Yre. Jadis has super high-tech guys with laser halberds and teleporters and shit. Much use they were against guys who move at lightspeed and have 500 megaton sword swings.
Earth is pretty run of the mill in terms of powerful worlds that Demiurges hold.
Technology doesn't survive the passage through the void, anything beyond simple machinery just fricking breaks, so nothing high tech can be brought to other worlds.
Any sorcerer worth their salt in throne could turn a fighter jet into flowers.
And that is why sorcerer's blood is cheaper than salt.
They'd have to 1. See them and b. Move faster than them. Depending on the model this could be as high as Mach 23. Declassified. You'd need somethjng like Dave's time slowing mojo.
Though I guess some kind of line in the airspace where if you cross, you turn to flowers; could work. But these goddamn planes have a sniping (well with missiles) range that's nearly as bullshit as their speed. Both belligerants are in for a rough time. It's a comic I'd read.
>Whatever happened to Lucky Felicia?
She took her payout at the end of Book 3 and went off to do whatever it is she does.
She lucked the frick out of the main story which is a pretty big win for any character all things considered.
didn't she get vaporized in Rayuba
>Eris, Eris, what a name, a name for discord, a name for far cold orbits where no living thing should dare to go. I like this name.
>Let me give you a gift, Eris. Let me tell you about the power in the logic of the sword:
>A Shredder or a Boomer is a powerful weapon, but it kills acyclically. You see? It sends out harm and it takes nothing back. The bolt passes away into nothing. A sword, though, a sword is like a bridge, a crossing-point. The sword binds wielder to victim. It binds life to death. And when the binding is done—the sword remembers. When the Boomer's fire has burnt away into axion and neutrino scatter, the sword goes on, hungrier and sharper.
>Understand that this nightmare logic underpins His nightmare world, and you will see why the ascendant blade has so much power there. Whenever in our passage we find ourselves in need of power—remember that the greatest authority here is a blade made keen by eons of use.
>This is the world the Hive craves: a universe creased by the edge of the sharpest sword.
Aiat.
>Hive talking shit
>When Oryx is dead (and a gun), Savathun dropped her spaghetti and is desperately sucking Light dick for the sake of her own survival, the Worm Gods turned out to be chumps wrecked by an autist we just gunned down in our first encounter who were only obeying the Witness because HE ABDUCTED THEIR MOM, and right now Xivu Arath's dialogue amounts to coping and seething about being a loser and missing oniichan
The Hive are a clown species now.
Destiny 2 isn’t canon
(Yes I am coping eternally, D1 grimoire is the only good shit that entire abortion of a franchise has ever produced)
I do find it amusing that despite all her wank in lore and general air of "I know better than you" as an npc questgiver back in the day, the moment she comes back from Oryx's throne world and actually starts being plot-relevant Mara Sov gets wrecked over and over again.
Honestly Mara's whole arc since she showed up again is literally about how her previous approach of playing the mastermind and never telling anyone anything was stupid and ultimately backfired on her hard. Ikora literally spells it out for her that what happened to Uldren was her own damn fault and she has no one to blame but herself for everything that happened to him and her people after she left.
Then she literally got a job offer from the guy trying to destroy the universe because he thought she was doing such a great job at fricking everything up that she'd make a great evil goddess. It's actually been pretty fun watching Mara get taken down a peg and learn some humility.
The phrase ‘bomb logic’ still makes me want to kill myself.
>Talks about how her death is someday anyway.
>Got a cloak.
>Does the posture.
>And all i can do is keep on moving forward.
Frick you Isayama, frick you so much for poisoning this.
>Allison being nice to Maya
That's cute. I'm really enjoying her character in this update, also makes me hope that Maya survives all this bullshit and sets up her noodle shop after the war. The whole "only hate keeps me alive" thing just being what she wrongly assumed.
>Allison is the one to call out Meti's bullshit
THANK YOU, I was getting tired of everyone acting like she was some infallible authority.
>THANK YOU, I was getting tired of everyone acting like she was some infallible authority.
Was she actually trying to be though? If you read the sword manual it's almost all up to interpretation outside of just making sure you cut what you mean to cut and if you set out to cut you better put your all into it. She seems to be a diogenes/socratic pastiche to me, and the point of that line of questioning is to get you to question the things you truly think that you know.
I prefer this cute moron Allison over boring moron Allison any day.
>was was
>and I all I
Two frick ups, actually.
>Thirty-five years.
Thirty-one.
Alisson has grown on me, she's actually a good protag by now
Just give her a few more pages to disappoint you again.
>Cigs
At least use the pipe Allison, come on.
How boring. this revelation isn't going to mean shit unless Allison somehow psychologically breezes through the rest of the story.
He only has the stick because it deters idiots from starting shit, less likely to get robbed if you look armed.
Allison channeling big Hansa energy here.
>Knows exactly when she's gonna die
>Decides it doesn't matter
>Takes a smoke
>Moves forward anyway
What a magnificent idiot.
But unlike Hansa she isn't an butthole. She's channeling the best of Hansa, Aesma and Prim, as Royalty should. How could she be Royal if she's the exact same as previous Royalty?
>How could she be Royal if she's the exact same as previous Royalty?
Because those were failures and she needs to be different, new.
I actually adore this sequence. It cuts through the melodrama of Meti's philosophy without being ireverant to it.
Everyone always says that violence is inescapable, that sword law is a poison of the soul that leaves its mark in everything that you do, that if you strike down your enemy the blow will encircle the earth five times to strike yoursefl down. It's a very valid answer to ask just how true this is. Is violence really so cringe if you're using it to stop an omnicidal maniac?
And the Maybe Sword being the answer to Meti's question is really amazing. I love how it elevates the rather simple question of "what then." Because the Maybe Sword is both the ultimate answer and the ultimate negation of Meti's philosophy. It is the sword that isn't a sword. The sword that spares those who will themselves as seperate from violence. It proves that violence is escapable, and that someone who escapes violence can still inflict violence when necessary.
They've entered the quantum state of being a swordsman and not being a swordsman at the same time.
Also, Alicon describing swords as phallic is AMAZING payoff for Intra saying that men are too distracted by their swords. I'm so glad that Abbadon was able to be patient with this joke and not spring it out in an earlier book.
Good analysis. Also It's interesting that despite being phallic the comic makes a point that most great swordsmen in the setting are women.
are you telling me the Very Wise Frog is wrong?
Maybe 🙂
Joking asside, yeah. Understanding the maybe sword doesn't come from wisdom; it comes from being broken by violence. Kassardis could have learned the maybe sword, but the Very Wise Frog was not familiar with Sword Law and thus couldn't understand the maybe sword. Violence is inescapable to his perspective, but by being shaped by the sword and going beyond this perspective an escape becomes apparant.
I dont care enough to get it
>Violence is inescapable to his perspective, but by being shaped by the sword and going beyond this perspective an escape becomes apparant.
Until a sword kills him. Yeah yeah some in the k6bd world can ignore that but guess what that's a non answer. That isn't something that can actually happen, it's purest fantasy meant to answer a real question.
This whole thing fails so fricking hard.
>Yeah yeah some in the k6bd world can ignore that but guess what that's a non answer.
You don't understand. I'll try to break this down point by point.
1) The Maybe Sword is the ultimate fighting move, able to defeat anyone or anything. Now that Allison understands it, Maya is certain that Allison will be able to defeat Incubus, even though he is the fricking wheel turning king and Jadis's prophcy said he was invincible.
2) Anyone who understands the Maybe Sword is immune to toe Maybe Sword. If someone else who understands it tries to kill them with it, they can use their understanding to negate the wound perfectly.
This is an escape from violence in the most literal sense. You can defeat anyone weaker than you perfectly, and you can defend against anyone of equal skill perfectly. Someone who understands the Maybe Sword never has to worry about being killed if they don't want to.
Since violence has a literal physical escape, it also means that there is a metaphorical spiritual escape. It means that there is nothing inherently ciclical about violence.
You said a bunch of nothing.
Maybe Sword > every other attack or defense
Maybe Sword = immune to Maybe Sworde
Therefore, Maybe Sword = invincible
invincible = escape from violence, not in a wishy washy deeplore way but as in a physical 'your HP will never reach 0' way.
Yeah
It means nothing
That’s this entire comic and that’s the point.
>able to defeat anyone or anything
no it isnt, it didnt cut allison because she didnt want to be cut or some bullshit
kill six billion years in MS Paint
>"You. What are you doing here?"
>"Protecting a rat."
She wasn't going all out. just wait until later in the book, Incubus's death is coming.
i just think that anon is trolling you
Explaining it doesn't make it less stupid, I get it everyone gets it. It means nothing.
what gets me is that the maybe sword is literally just believing you cut someone and that guy believing it too. whats stopping jaggs from going "nu uh your maybe sword didnt cut me because I have the iron feathers"
Nothing
We're playground rules now
Literally nothing. Except that Jagg doesn't have/understand the Maybe Sword.
If he did, he wouldn't be an omincidal maniac. His whole thing is that he's motivated by how banal and disgusting violence is. If he understood the maybe sword, realize that violence is finally escapable. Then he'd vaporize 1 Metatron, and once done that never carry the sword ever again.
>If he understood the maybe sword, realize that violence is finally escapable
If he understood the maybe sword, HE WOULD realize that violence is escapable
please forgive me for posting on four hours of sleep and accidentally words, Cinemaphile
I'll eat my pant if allison teaches jaggs the maybe sword and he does just that. bonus points if she teaches it to everyone so they can all escape violence
>whats stopping jaggs
The Maybe Sword cuts you if you think you are dead. Jagganoth is already dead.
Maybe
Oh I hadn't thought about that connection! I like that a lot.
Man was literally called the "Lion of the Dead Men," and his backstory has him being broken down to view himself as already dead.
>defeat Jadis' prophecy
What gave you the impression that was possible?
Jaddis said that Incubus couldn't be beat. Maya said he could. Also, this comic would be incredibly cringe if he couldn't be beat. So I'm taking an educated guess that even perfect prophecies like Jadis's can be overcome by the Maybe Sword.
I'm also going to assume that the Maybe Sword can beat Metatron, or somehow overcome his time bullshit. IDK it just kinda feels like it's on the same level as Jadis's prophecies, you know?
She might just kill him, but also making Jagg understand the truth might work too. Certainly, Jagg's been broken by violence just as much as Maya and Alliosn, if not moreso.
I give it 60-40 odds that she kills him vs teaches him.
If Jadis' prophecies can be overcome after Abby did all that griping on twitter about people not taking Jadis at face value, then I'll seriously lose respect for him as a writer.
This is abby logic. Her prophecies are perfect and 100% correct but you can still overcome them if you're Royalty. The rules say it's perfect but the rules can be broken.
I.E. it follows exactly the same path as the rest of the comic.
And abby wondered why people weren't taking the determinism/nihilism stuff seriously.
Jadis is literally not wrong, that's straight up a rule of the setting.
>that's straight up a rule of the setting.
ksbd states that there are no rules. Everything has an exception if you bullshit enough. That's why every time someone cites anything as hard fact, someone else doubts the verity of it.
Maya seems pretty convinced that Allison is gonna do what Jadis said wasn't possible.
>kill six billion years in MS Paint
Sensible_Chuckle.gif
In Maya's hands the maybe sword couldn't even defeat Incubus.
>The Maybe Sword is the ultimate fighting move, able to defeat anyone or anything. Now that Allison understands it, Maya is certain that Allison will be able to defeat Incubus, even though he is the fricking wheel turning king and Jadis's prophcy said he was invincible.
I think you're overestimating the Maybe Sword here. If Jagg could be beaten by the sword why wouldn't Maya have done so already? For all her talk of destiny she's clearly not the type of person to sit by and let so many innocents suffer and die when she has the ability to stop it. The reason she's teaching Allison is clearly because she doesn't think she can beat Jagganoth herself, even with the Maybe sword.
Also, if the Maybe Sword is the ultimate fighting move how come Maya herself isn't unbeatable? She said she lost to Incubus when they fought on Rayuba, and we even directly saw her use the Maybe Sword against Juggernaut Star and still lose that fight, only living because Juggs decided to call it off. It's a powerful technique but it's clearly not a surefire win.
Yeah i can believe it's really fricking cool because it really does seem to be from her description of what i does but i can't get into all this RP hype that people have been giving it in discussions when i consider it's actual showings so far.
Maybe it's future use will prove me wrong but as of now this is a fricking awesome technique but not the end all be all in my opinion.
The maybe sword is the ultimate weapon, but it's a tool of willpower. It can't just work against Jagganoth because he doesn't care about dying or what comes next until he wins, and it didn't work against Allison because of the same. But if you can make him doubt that what he's doing is right, that there is another option, he dies.
> despite all religion, mythology, and culture in this fictional universe revolving around these exact ideas.
That's the point. Everything in the world revolves around mythical kungfu sword masters that are ultimately just jerking themselves off about being able to use sharper rocks than each other. Then when they finally win, the only thing they can do is further sharpen their rocks because that's just how it is. That's why the question scares them, because it questions how they function to their core in comparison to a dumbass who simply does not think or care about it even when asked.
All mythology in the setting is actually about how pursuing violence and royalty and power for their own sake are pointless and self destructive. Nothing glorifies that path as the one true way to live, but does the opposite. All the stories and little sayings and other shit are all about how it's fricking dumb and if you live like that you're going to be miserable and then die... and somehow there is an unlimited supply of people who are like "SURELY THAT WON'T HAPPEN TO ME!"
If he story's entire premise is "This shit is dumb" but it isn't a pure comedy then the story is shit.
The only fool is Abaddon, who spent 10 years writing a Kung Fu Anime Mysticism Action comic about people shouting their super special martial arts attacks at each other and wielding magical swords, only to say that it's all stupid and pointless because DUDE NIHILISM LMAO
>Violence is for morons
>But also violence is inescapable and you're a moron if you try to escape it
There is no way to not be moronic in the K6BD universe. The only thing you can do is to be deliberately moronic in a cool way. Id est, royalty.
Most of those sayings and stories are probably from the post-Allison world.
Would that imply that Allison is AL YISUN, but not in the usual way?
>The reason she's teaching Allison is clearly because she doesn't think she can beat Jagganoth herself
I think she could beat Jagganoth, if she believed in herself - which she obviously doesn't.
If the maybe sword isn't the deciding factor, then how is Allison able to defeat Jaggs now when she wasn't able to beat him before learning it?
>She said she lost to Incubus when they fought on Rayuba
She won that fight; she was able to protect Alison, which was her goal
>we even directly saw her use the Maybe Sword against Juggernaut Star and still lose that fight
She literally won that fight tho. There was an explosion afterwards but she won.
Also this is neither here nor there, but the Maybe Sword is so obviously based on the pankratosword from Elder Scrolls, which is supposed to be the ultimate sword move.
I thought the pankratosword was literally just slicing so quickly that you cut atoms and cause nuclear explosions.
This is a misconception. When the lore says that the pankratosword can "cut the atomos," that doesn't mean it can make nuclear explosions. Atomos in this case is the greek word meaning "indivisible," which was where the word atom came from (back before people thought there were subatomic particles).
Or in other words, the pankratosword can cut the uncutable. It can cut laws of nature by killing earthbones, "arcing the bones that otherwise cannot bend."
>are you telling me the Very Wise Frog is wrong?
No.
>The sword that spares those who will themselves as seperate from violence. It proves that violence is escapable, and that someone who escapes violence can still inflict violence when necessary.
frog: "violence is inescapable!"
anon: "violence is escapable"
anon, again: "the frog is not wrong"
Yisun is all
All-yisun
Allison
It's just a lesson about "stop criticizing yourself and just be happy"
>Yisun is all
>All-yisun
>Allison
All is one
I've always wondered if Zoss repeatedly calling her Allice (All is) rather than Allison has some significance.
He just heard her say her name is Alice-UN.
two different anons.
>Allison will be able to defeat Incubus
able to defeat Jagganoth, sorry
No, violence IS inescapable. But being poisoned by violence is not, at least not unless you let it. Samura isn't a place, it's a frame of mind, it's a choice.
You cannot run away from violence, but you can choose to remain yourself in the face of it. You don't have to completely embrace something to acknowledge its necessity, which I think is the thing that people like Incubus and the other demiruges miss.
>Samura
Saṃsāra
No Samura, the mystical city of peace and love that Kassardis was seeking in the story to escape violence. It's not a real place, you won't find it in the world no matter how much you search, you must find it within yourself. The only way to achieve peace is to accept that peace is unachievable, the only way to escape violence is to accept that violence is inescapable. Existence is an act of self deception on the part of God, this whole universe runs on paradoxes.
>this whole universe runs on paradoxes
This gives me a headache.
Remember anon, God is a liar and wants you to be one too.
>YISUN was questioned once by their disciples at their speaking house. The questions were the following:
>'What is the ultimate reason for existence?'
>To which YISUN replied, 'Self-deception.'
>'How can a man live in perfect harmony?'
>To which YISUN replied, 'Non-existence.'
>'What is the ultimate result of all action?'
>To which YISUN replied, 'Futility.'
>'How best can we serve your will?'
>To which YISUN replied, 'Kindly ignore my first three answers.'
The world began when everything decided that being everything was boring and committed suicide so it could pretend it wasn't. It's paradoxes all the way down.
>The world began when everything decided that being everything was boring and committed suicide so it could pretend it wasn't.
Wait
That's like the diametrical opposite of the process of CHIM. You believe you exist (I AM), but you realize the undeniable fact that you're a dream so you don't exist (I AM NOT), which should zero sum you (I AM + I AM NOT = Zero Sum). But if you have enough ego to say "frick you, I AM", you gain agency and control in the dream; you become a god.
So the world began when existence decided to zero sum itself?
Wait is Yisun the Dwemer?
>That's like the diametrical opposite of the process of CHIM. You believe you exist (I AM), but you realize the undeniable fact that you're a dream so you don't exist (I AM NOT), which should zero sum you (I AM + I AM NOT = Zero Sum). But if you have enough ego to say "frick you, I AM", you gain agency and control in the dream; you become a god.
you gain control of the dream but also realize that to strive for anything is pointless for yourself. It's the ultimate self-own.
You've got it the wrong way round. In Elder Scrolls YISUN would be the godhead. He is the dreamer, not a part of the dream. The math is reversed, the undeniable fact is that he exists, but he believes he doesn't. So a thing that does exist is pretending it's not real, and if it pretends hard enough and says "Frick you I don't exist", then it becomes the dream.
The world began when existence decided to dream it was something other than itself.
I think YISUN might be full of shit.
Now you're getting it
You're one step closer to royalty or are you?
maybe?
“Let there be no Genesis, for beginnings are false and I am a consummate liar.”
I saw that more as "Fight against the idea of the ultimate reason, the perfect harmony, the ultimate result. There is none. Just live well."
>Fight against the idea of the ultimate reason, the perfect harmony, the ultimate result. There is none. Just live well."
And YISUN is literally the embodiment of all those things, since he's, you know, God, and also everything, and also Truth-with-a-capital-T. God himself is telling you that he doesn't matter and you should ignore him. Which makes sense, since YISUN killed himself to create the universe, he finds being you much more interesting than being him.
Well, he was the Very Wise Frog, not the Very Correct Frog.
The Beetle has learned pankrash circle fighting
Tom's attempts at irreverent nihilism rub me the wrong way because it makes Allison into too much of an outsider in her own story. Everyone else is a stone-faced grimderp anime characters, all wound in up fate and destiny and
>THE BLOODY PATH OF THE SWORD SO RIGHTEOUS AND AWFUL THAT IT CURLS GOD'S PUBES TO DARE CONSIDER WHAT HORRID AND PITIFUL THINGS AWAIT THOSE WHO CHOOSE THE PATH OF BLOODSHED! WOE UNTO THE WARRIORS! TO BIG A KING IS TO BE A GUY WHO STABS HIMSELF IN HIS OWN DICK OVER AND OVER FOR ETERNITY!!! -The Book of Scrumbis, Part 9237
Somehow the question of what do you do after you kill your enemies and win is a fricking incomprehensible existential nightmare to all these morose kungfu angels and sword queens, but Allison just goes "lol swords are kinda dumb, but I'm a big fricking idiot so what do I know? I wanna eat noodles and hang out or whatever." because a dumb sorority girl had the answer all along that an endless cycle of people somehow more moronic than Allison could not comprehend without unmaking themselves, despite all religion, mythology, and culture in this fictional universe revolving around these exact ideas.
I'd agree with you, but I think Allison has had enough time to integrate with the setting that this seperation feels like a deliberate choice on her part, rather than tonal incongruence on the part of the author.
I can't fully hate it, as much as part of me wants to, because Allison is meant to be special. She is one idiot confronting an endless infinity of morons killing each other and she's the one person who breaks that cycle. That's the whole point, I guess.
her title drop should've been here, damn
No that panel is cringe enough as is.
I saw you frick up.
I know.
Anon is observant.
You'd know all about phalluses wouldn't you Allison?
Not unless Cio grew any wieners while they were together.
MAGAlyson
Abby's got a typo in left second from bottom panel:
>Your master was was pretty obsessed with swords
swords? don't you mean swords?
those are funny ways to say swords
>swords are lame
Frick you Allison I hope Jag wins
t. Incubus
Incubus get off Cinemaphile and jagg's dick. He's still gonna kill you when he gets out of the seal
Spears, arrows, and anti-sword daggers all easily frick with swords. Swords are fun but they're also an artless and overly simple tool.
>calling swords artless while listing the most casual weapon in all of history the spear
It literally exist to cover for the conscripted peasants lack of training.
>implying the conscripted peasant isn't the most dangerous motherfricker in the battlefield
tbph my favourite peasantpilled weapon is the goedendag, of Battle of the Golden Spurs fame
you put them between the pikemen and when heavy armor breaks spears, it won't break a fricking club pointed at your horse on the second row
>What is Peasantry?
>A continuous poking motion.
Pretty good anon
You realize Salami Daniel was a peasant farmer, yes?
Swords are things to cut stuff...you can do the same with a sharp rock.
>What then
Fricking boring. Everyone called it, and then half of the replies were "that's too obvious and doesn't actually mean anything."
It absolutely should have been
>what do you think of death?
Like why would "what then" fricking break you? "Then" you live your life, whether that is as a bloodthirsty tyrant or a guardian of peace with the threat of violence. It worked for Solomon David, he became the strongest and happily ruled over his worlds for centuries, uncontested until Jagganoth shows up. And it's not like that's on him, it's not like if he had walked away from the path of strength Jagganoth would have been any less of a threat.
The bullshit faux-wisdom from Allison is just bad writing, too. "Your master was pretty obsessed with swords," shut the frick up, half of Meti's fricking philosophy is about being a "swordsman" despite not even using a sword. It's about taking the principles of swordsmanship and applying them to your whole life, sword or no, AND about how futile and fruitless that is and that you'll be happier if you don't do that. "It's just a tool," yeah, so is a Key of Kings and the thirty iron nails. That's not profound, that's a non-statement.
It feels like Abby is trying real hard to present Allison as enlightened by virtue of having her mind be unclouded by the petty conflicts that lesser men have twisted their lives around, but it's just shallow and meaningless.
Are you just now realizing that one of the main weaknesses of the story is Alison's dialogue?
Anon, if you remember, it didn't instantly shatter her spirit and turn her into a desiccated husk. Maya kept arguing until the full meaning of it hit her and then she turned and ran.
>nooooo if I’m not constantly surprised by random asspulls it’s bad writing noooo
>Fricking boring.
Yeah. That's a pretty weak koan to break someone with.
>Maya kept arguing until the full meaning of it hit her and then she turned and ran.
That's the thing - any butthole can keep arguing on "what then" and feel pretty confident about it. You don't need intelligence, determination, courage or moron power - even a little bit of pride would be enough. You can't just >imply someone into existential futility who hasn't already convinced himself of it, and I don't really see which of Meti's lessons could make God Maya so fragile.
Also a fair point. It would be a strong turn if Jadis predicted a very soon death for her, with a date possibly fitting for a Maybe sword cut, but Allison just went "nah" - that would actually mean something.
It should've been "So what?"
>It worked for Solomon David, he became the strongest and happily ruled over his worlds for centuries
b***h what in this comic makes you think SD has ever been happy since his family died. dude has been splitting his time equally between his twin hobbies of coping and seething for centuries.
What then works because handling the responsability of being God for all eternity is something no one is equiped for. People called it because they've been paying attention.
>What then works because handling the responsability of being God for all eternity is something no one is equiped for.
That works if you assume good-faith engagement. The listener can easily be beyond reason or humility. Fricking Incubus was there with Maya and Meti and heard the question, and as we saw - that didn't get anywhere under his skin.
My impression is that if Maya was proud and violent enough to steal power from the brow of Jantris and claim the Middle Army, she already was poisoned enough by the sword to stop caring about "what then".
>That works if you assume good-faith engagement.
Well that's sort of the point, isn't it? Shit-tier or sword-poisoned Rulers like the Demiurges would ignore the question. Midwits like Maya would have to actively cope and break after realizing they're staring down eternity.
Enlightened morons who know they're gonna die admit they don't know and that that's okay.
>Maya was proud and violent enough to steal power from the brow of Jantris and claim the Middle Army
Jantris was an evil fricker though and immediately after "retiring" went about trying to start a family she was genuinely happy with, so I don't think she was wholly poisoned like Incubus or Jag who genuinely don't have anything like that.
>Jantris was an evil fricker though
That's the thing though. If "killing the evil fricker" is a good enough thing on it's own, then here's Maya's answer - she can just keep killing evil frickers as they crop up until either she or time itself breaks. Maya was a Sword Saint, that would kinda be her whole life's plan when she went out and fought Jantris. There's nothing novel to it even - most angels roll like that out of the box.
And the thing is - ultimately, that is all Maya actually does, even after her entire ark. She's working to kill an evil motherfricker. She's back at Step 1 - a little girl who wants to Punch The Bad Guy in the face.
The whole theme of cycle of violence just doesn't mesh well with "actively opposing evil" being presented as a viable option.
I think that's mentioned earlier, when Allison points out that even if she would have been happier as a barista, it would have meant Jagga reigning eternal resetting the wheel forever.
Fighting the evil is a valid option for your life sure.
It just sucks, and will cause you to lose loved ones, suffer, and no matter how much evil you strike down that caises short term good, new evil will crop up anyways in the future forever.
Allison's answer to the paradox is seemingly "Okay, well I'm going to go beat the shit out of Jagganoth now and after that, idk I'll do whatever feels right at the time."
>Incubus standing just off-panel:
>What then? We go get more cool swords.
>Then we do more swordfights with our b***hing new swords
>This shit is easy
>Wait Maya where are you going
>Are you going to get more swords?
>Can I come with you?
Maya was always a peasant/selfless type. She wanted to be a hero since childhood. She begged Meti for 14 years and Lord Mana for 6 years. She killed Jantris who was the biggest piece of shit in the multiverse. Even when she commited countless acts of violence she wasn't an Incubus type.
It's really convenient for the sake of the point the story is making that the only Demiurges that survived to become the seven all had at least somewhat humane qualities rather than being easily satisfied sociopaths truly happy on their thrones like Emperor Palpatine. Except maybe Incubus, and he's a quivering bundle of insecurity.
Then again, for all I know maybe Abby's trying to make a point that all the Yemmods and Jantrises and all the other truly war-happy Demiurges killed each other off and the Seven won because they had the basic capacity to band together.
Pre-senility Mammon was also a sociopath. Mottom too but she's also a coward. Solomon may be too prideful to let the question stop him and Jagganoth's entire goal is to proclaim the end of time and kill himself after achieving godhood. He'd flat out reply to Meti with a yes.
But God in this setting is a humanoid being with a humanoid mind so anyone could take up the role. 'Ruling well' is merely a matter of perspective of the subject, and irrelevant to fulfilling your design.
Of course the value of said design is a other matter but something doesn't have to be high quality to be valid.
Treat this reply as an upvote or whatever. Anytime I say something like what you say the white knights just dogpile on me as they have you.
I don't have the strength to complain anymore, not with this crowd. The last nice memory of these threads were when someone brought up Destiny's lore to contrast with this story. All the power to you.
>I don't have the strength to complain anymore, not with this crowd
I think the comic is much better than it has been for the most of it's run, but this moment here - yeah, it is weak.
You may be right but just how fricking fragile are you?
>All the power to you.
What then?
>Treat this reply as an upvote or whatever
Kindly frick off. Just say you agree without this stupid pretense.
>Destiny’s lore
Your statement is made all the funnier by how Destiny is doing it’s damndest to ruin it’s own lore more than KSBD.
>Guardian, secure the Radial Mast! What’s the Radial Mast? It must not be linked with the Veil! What’s the Veil? IMPORTANT! Don’t let the Witness get his hands on it? And who’s the Witness? W-well he’s the thing you’ve been talking to every time you’ve thought you’ve been talking to the Darkness (but isn’t the Darkness) and the mastermind behind the collapse and EVERYTHING and Unveiling may or may not just be his species’ allegory! We will wait several weeks after his release to reveal that he’s basically a shittier Anti-Spiral, and that’s how he can tank the fricking Traveller. Stop asking questions and do raids, we don’t have time to explain what we don’t have time to explain!
>Remember Calus? The guy who rejected enslavement to the “Darkness”? Ackshyually he’s a pathetic fraud and a loser and a cornered animal sucking up to it, and you should dismiss any mystery about him as shit he made up
>The Worm Gods weren’t paracausal ur-entities at all, but a formerly PEACEFUL group of ACTUAL WORMS corrupted by the Witness (and bullied by Rhulk, and their mom got taken hostage etc). As a matter of fact, they used to look like sea serpents and one is currently helping a black commander lady so strong and independent that with it’s help she’s staving off being Taken!
>Here’s Neomuna, lost city of Dark Age technology. The whole city is somehow protected by literally just two cybernetically augmented guys. One is old, and dies off soon. The other is flamboyant. Together, they’re holding off an entire Vex infestation
>Xivu Arath is such a mindbroken crybaby that she’s approving the resurrection of Oryx in a desperate bid to keep her family together/somehow prove the Sword Logic somehow hasn’t been totally refuted
>Cayde will return
>Eramis and Kelgorath are SOMEHOW STILL ALIVE
Just pretend D2 isn’t canon, it makes everything so much easier.
That being said I’m curious how you think the sword logic has been ‘refuted.’ The Hive being beaten doesn’t mean their philosophy is wrong, it means that they were *right,* because something stronger than them came along and destroyed them.
Boo-fricking-Hoo homie, cry me a river you weak-ass b***h
>It worked for Solomon David
Anon. The entire point was, no it fricking didn't. He got geeked. The civilization he owned stagnated and was crushed by Jag. And he made himself miserable in the meanwhile. The sole remote success David managed was keeping Jag contained. Except while he was doing that an army of emotionally manipulative OCs ran roughshod on Rayuba.
>Like why would "what then" fricking break you?
Because it's the question that destroyed the Demiurges. They all fought for the keys and for ultimate power, but they had no actual plan for what happens after.
>It worked for Solomon David, he became the strongest and happily ruled over his worlds for centuries
Solomon David, you mean the guy who sets up a pissing contest every year just so he can reassure himself that he's still the best fighter who ever lived?
>uncontested until Jagganoth shows up
That's the point you dingus. Jagganoth is the "what then?" to Solomon David. SD built the perfect kingdom, but what does it fricking matter when the big guy with a nuke sword can destroy it all in a day.
> it's not like if he had walked away from the path of strength Jagganoth would have been any less of a threat.
That's not what Maya is saying either. Maya tried to walk away and that got her family killed. Allison tried to walk away and that led to depression arc. You can't run away from your problems, but you also can't just kill everything in front of you
Brainlet spotted
na, allison is meant to be copletely moronic in aesma style here and that's fair game. however, meti's dumb fricking question probably *is* meant to be clever, which is pretty annoying and goes to show that you shouldn't expect too much from webcomics
It's easy to write stupid characters when you can draw from experience. Tom's biggest problem is that he's skimmed the surface of a ton of mythology and theology, but he hasn't actually studied or understood any of the deeper philosophy behind all the shit he's copying from.
>Tom's biggest problem is that he's skimmed the surface of a ton of mythology and theology, but he hasn't actually studied or understood any of the deeper philosophy behind all the shit he's copying from
That's how some of the greatest authors rolled, Howard, Lovecraft, Kirkbride and Anno are/were all professional skimmers, and yet their works are considered some of the greatest
back in fa/tg/uy land, we call this the "Forger of World" approach
>"Forger of World" approach
Tell me more about this
>dude you make the choice
>actually I'm immortal because my horoscope said I will live 30 more years lol
In one of my favorite films, Big Fish, one of the stories that the father tells us about how learning when he'd die granted him a freedom beyond belief.
Because up until that point, he wouldn't have to worry about anything and could try anything.
>Big Fish
Except that she supposed to be breaking fate so relying on it like that is hypocritical of her and using it to prop up her character's confidence is poor storytelling.
>making a character act hypocritical is poor storytelling
>why?
>because I don't like it
>lol who cares swords are kinda gay anyway
Now that there is true royalty
I'll admit I thought it was funny with the whole context of this world being what it is.
>Plus don't you think they're kind of... phallic?
You don't say.
Incubus' homosexuality is evident in his obsession with swords. He licks them and slobers all over them.
>Incubus on his knees in a filthy bathroom in Throne, slobbering over any sword shoved through the gloryhole
>Incubus literally licks his sword after trying to stab Jag
Gaaaaaay
>W-what do you mean they are just tools with no will of their own?
You can pinpoint the exact moment her blood-pumping sword was cut in half by Allison's word-sword
She really is Meti's dimmest pupil. How many time does she need to learn this lesson?
Meti: swords are for idiots
Maya: as your most true and ardent disciple, you are wrong and that's why I made myself a sword god.
Meti: still for idiots, idiot.
Maya: tgrpugh relentless focus, pain and degradation I have forged myself into a sword that can cut anything.
Alison: ...well that's dumb. You get that's dumb, right?
Meti would be howling.
Incubus would be much happier if he responded to "swords r dumb" with "Yup!!"
Incubus is a literal sword addict. Maya doesn't need a sword to cut. Incubus is basically useless without a metal stick despite holding 1/7th of the power of God.
>She really is Meti's dimmest pupil. How many time does she need to learn this lesson?
Powerful Aesma energy. Unyieldingly stubborn, yet impenetrably dense. Willing to come back every two weeks for fourteen years to demand Meti take her as her pupil, and completely unwilling to just shave her head like she told her to the first time she asked. Only does it after a fateful passerby overhears them arguing and does it on the spot.
Man, could you imagine Meti training Allison? Or...hanging out with her, rather, I guess.
>the question is
>WHERE'S MY SOUP?!?!
>spend your entire life anonizing over swords, their mastery, the lives they destroy and how you own life collapsed in on itself after you finally ran away from the blade
>come to accept your place and train your pupil to learn your op as frick sword technique you spent years honing under the constant abuse of a disgusting orge man
>engage your pupil in soulful conversation after teaching her your ultra secret move
>"swords are kind of cringe and look like dicks lol"
Absolute Stacey energy, laughed at the bluntness of it.
fat people deserve to be laughed at
I'm already laughing at you so that's convenient then.
True but not relevant to my post at all.
Shou Fu Kan did it better
What would be Meti's opinion on Shou Fu Kan, would she criticize his stick-sword?
She'd be cool with it, one of her lessons is about how you can cut with anything, whether it's the side of your shoe or your fingernail.
I'd like to see duck trying to frick with her
I think it works much better in TBF because shou's power is not a philosophical willpower mumbo-jumbo but just imbuing stuff with chi so it's unbreakable, which is just regular wuxia bullshit, much more easier to understand. also it is clearly harder to use and has no advantages so his reason to use it comes of as more impactful
I can't wait for people to start getting mad abbadon isn't going to try and answer the sort of impossible to answer question that all of humanity has failed to deal with in the context of a random guy writing a webcomic.
If abbadon actually wanted to answer this question definitively it would be shit and wrong we should all know this.
They wouldn't be happy either way.
>noooooo you can't engage with intractable existential questions in fiction unless you have a definitive answer!!
Sorry frickers it's one of the things that makes us humans and we're not about to stop any time soon
>I deliberately wrote a story that raises questions I don’t have answers for, and now my readers are dissatisfied. How can this be happening to me?
>my Dragon Bleach Z Slayer doesn't definitively give me the answers to universal meaning. How dare the author touch on themes of the meaning of life without solving the entire discipline of philosophy?
Some of you just genuinely don't want to enjoy anything
>give me the answers
No one said this and your instant strawmanning only highlights how this comic appeals to people who think they’re more mature than they are
Show me characters actually grappling with the paradoxes of living instead of having everything be thrown into flashbacks and text blurbs
It’s cool when the protagonist resolves a problem with “Frick I don’t care” but not eighteen fricking times. It makes the story feel shallow as frick, find more than one solution.
>No one said this
You're literally b***hing the story doesn't answer the question it's posing for its themes. Not every story has to die on the hill that it's a valid real world catch-all.
>people who think they’re more mature than they are
Projection. I just enjoy the comic for what it is, not seething over the fact it isn't a philosophy textbook
I’m b***hing that the story is dragging its feet with these Jadis and Maya subplots.
Do we really need to be told that Allison is gonna beat Jagganoth by being stubborn back to back like this, as if that wasn’t something we were just shown when she merged a fricking angel and demon together?
You’re lying if you think this final book was planned out well at all. Show some more interesting adventures that Allison resolves by punching really hard, not sitting and listening to walls of text for pages upon pages on end just for her to say “Uh what I wasn’t listening”
I don’t care about the theming the execution is sloppy and boring.
>nuuh give me muh dbz action
>I’m b***hing that the story is dragging its feet with these Jadis and Maya subplots.
then write that down in response first instead of going
>I deliberately wrote a story that raises questions I don’t have answers for, and now my readers are dissatisfied. How can this be happening to me?
and then complaining anons are replying to that instead of the argument you wished you had made you actual goofy goober
I think you guys are being a bit overly dismissive of Abbadon as a writer. That said, it does feel a bit vacuous to touch on big questions so directly and build it up just to turn around and shrug it off. I'll admit, though, that my expectations are possibly a bit skewed by the way Abby himself talks about his work in comparison to others, grumbling about "manichean, christo-parochial worlds" and such.
The best thing about KSBD are the sidestories, of the background of the characters etc. Every time the story goes back to the "main plot" it's a slog.
you're the kind of person who sees waiting for godot is furious when he never shows up, aren't you
Of course not the title is literally waiting for Godot and there is a lot of waiting involved. I would be furious if the title was "Godot showing up" and he didn't.
>Why do you sword guys always gotta talk about how cool your swords are
how would he do in the k6bdverse
i bet he would get along with princess
he'd get outviolenced
I mean he got wrecked by the crab costumed mafia dude in New York once they moved. I don't think he'd do that great.
Brock is like 95% will and 5% mullet I think he'd do fine.
>They hit me with a truck
>They hit me with a truck
So that's how he ended up on Throne!
Brock's Isekai backstory.
He has literally done multiple nuclear grade swordstrokes already.
Because swords are cool? I'm not sure I understand this question. Brock, you yourself carry a small sword with you and prefer it over firearms even in situations where it puts you at a strategic disadvantage.
>Brock, you yourself carry a small sword with you and prefer it over firearms even in situations where it puts you at a strategic disadvantage.
Yeah, but he doesn't talk about it though.
lol mayan was raped
technically she was just a sword prostitute
>le ignorance is bliss/too much of a airhead white girl to be bothered by big boy problems
We get it, being stupid is a blessing. Yay for Allison being one of the most boring and uninteresting characters I've ever read. Can we get back to Incubus or something?
The concept that there just happens to be a special sword that can instakill Jagganoth in the first place is laughably stupid, and I can't imagine it working out.
How the frick did you miss the point this hard
Jesus christ
the anon you're responding to sounds like a speedreader
they probably don't even know this comic gets posted to a website, I bet they only see it here in passing
>get trained to use a sword
>get told youre the sword thats gonna cut down god, save everyone and break the wheel
>get told doing so is a massive pain in the ass and youre gonna lose everything to do it
>"swords are kinda stupid"
alison is the smartest dumbest moron in history
zoss picked the perfect heir
>swords are actually kinda lame
>Jagganoth is bearer of the word Blade
Abby had a chuckle here. Jag might actually be offended at this.
What if jag isn't defeated physically by AL-YIS-UN but instead mentally. She calls him cringe and he runs off to the bathroom to cry about it
>invincible super-ultra-giga murder god of infinite swords
>flower print shorts
always gets me
hey if i was gonna be the end of all existence id wanna look pretty fricking good doing so
and those shorts are pretty aesthetic
Aspirants of Royalty recognize drip.
that is why incubus is the ultimate peasant. Why pursue excellence without being able to stylin on others?
>Aspirants of Royalty recognize drip.
Jagganoth is canonically the absolute total perfect opposite of Royalty.
Isn't Jag supposed to be actually very intelligent? Allison is his complete opposite, maybe she will be able mind-break him with her stupidity. Kinda like how that dumbass who didn't now how to fight beat that master Shaolin monk.
I can see that happening. Jagga was really poetic when he spoke a lot of the times, and he's basically so aware of the natural pain and inherent suffering of the world that he's decided to eternally bind himself in relation to opposing Metatron and acts to destroy all existence so that suffering may be removed entirely. If Allison walks up to him and says-
>"Yeah people suffer, it sucks, I've suffered too. Honestly it's pretty shit. I don't really think we can do anything about it though besides help people how we can. You know? I mean if you remake the Wheel to be without suffering, then what? Are you going to squat on top of it for eternity, and if anyone in that new existence figures out how to hurt people, you break the whole thing in half and do it over? How can you even try to make a world without suffering if you've spent your entire life suffering? Are you just gonna pull some crappy idea of a heaven out of your ass?"
Then he may actually die of a brain aneurysm.
>"dude you're holding like 10000 dicks right now"
>Jags immediately drops them all and recoils in fear
bing bong victory
>you only like swords because they remind you of Jantris's wiener lamfo
Then fall Jagganoth.
>tons of horns
>Allison just sees it as a crown of dicks
>only idiots become swordsmen
>Allison is too dumb to be an idiot
I know Abaddon has a lot to cover in the book, but I wish we'd gotten more from Gog, a canon backstory at least.
Almost assuredly a demiurge dying and getting devoured by worms.
Like I don't see how else Abbadon is gonna play her backstory tbph
Literally the very second they set foot on the original Gogworld.
why just one? Gog-Agog could have spent thousands of years devouring corpses until she managed to gather enough power to actually develop consciousness and go from there.
Isn't she a mass of worms that became a demiurge? Like a Lek'Golo or a Man O'War?
Same here.
If her backstory isn't shown in the comic I'll assume the backstory abbadon posted in the discord is the canon one. It makes sense.
What'd he post?
>Gog-agog was a peasant girl from a large family who fell in love with a prince. All her sisters were more beautiful than her (in her parent's eyes) and got married off to various other princes while she was doomed to stay at home and care for her family. Nobody cared about her or paid attention to her ever. The prince never noticed her or even spared her a glance because she was poor and she became consumed with hatred at her own perceived ugliness.
>She developed an awful obsession with the prince and her own inadequacy and eventually and hung herself in grief. Her obsession was so strong, however, that the worms that ate her corpse as it hung from the tree (her family didn't even bother to look for her) inherited that obsession and became imbued with supernatural power. She was reborn, taking the form of more beautiful, idealized version of her, whom the prince immediately noticed and resolved to marry.
>As princess, she eventually became jealous of the prince for his power and control over her, and without thinking, completely consumed him, becoming him. She had her family executed out of spite. The king became curious about the sudden change in behavior from his son and the strange disappearance of his daughter in lore, so Gog agog consumed and became the king.
>The peasantry rallied and tried to burn gog agog out from the castle, where she had eaten and consumed most of the staff and nobility out of petty jealousy. They failed. The land was scoured of most life when it was opened by Throne, and gog-agog consumed the first demiurge that came through the open gate, becoming semi-divine in power and gaining her own key.
>This continued to the present day, until Gog-agog had an entire seventh of the universe under her control, as factions and banners rallied to the cause of the monstrosity, seeing her strength. She is completely insane and completely unaware of her own power.
Gog-agog literally having "the Thing" as her backstory. Based.
Mad respect for the other demiurges for containing her to 1/7th of the universe. This is some Thing/Blob/Invasion of the Bodysnatchers shit.
Here: https://pastebin.com/kbg0BN3F
So this is the end of this sequence. Wonder what's next
>Allison meeting Zaid
>Catching up with the resistance
>Catching up with the demiurges
huh so anon was right, it was "and then what"
>literally Allison's character arc since the Jagg fight
Sometimes I wonder if Abby is just fricking with us at this point.
>Sometimes I wonder if Abby is just fricking with us at this point.
I'd find it funny, it seems like something Yissun would do.
>talks about violence
>not a single word about swords
>she sure talks about swords a lot huh
>anyway thanks for teaching me swords like I asked you, swords are lame
> These two conflictings things conflict, because the point the comic is trying to get accross is that Maya, at the end of the day, is not right about everything, at all. She is just kind of sad.
My final impression is that she is just kinda dumb and her entire story was a huge practical joke that she played on herself.
To better understand Royalty let us examine the terminology used to describe it. To be "Royalty" is to "Cut". Why these terms? Yisun's first act was to "cut" themself, the divine act of division/suicide that created "others". Others that sought to further "cut", to further divide and make more "others".
These "others" seek to be "Royalty". Royalty is the state of being better than "others", to lord over "others" and is the state all "others" seek and they do so by "cutting" creating more "others". But is there an end state or is the action itself the goal despite being depicted by all close to "Royalty" as being wrong.
The reason for this is that despite the constant production of "others" all "others" are still Yisun. None can be Royalty because none can be better than Yisun, they are Yisun. There is no "other" to be "Royalty" over Yisun, there is only Yisun.
Yisun is a sub devoid of domme
Yisun is a bottom but there is no top
Yisun is lonely but is truly alone
Yisun seeks an "other" that is not Yisun
There is none other than Yisun
The true act of "cutting" is to be "other" than Yisun
To be "Royalty" is lord over Yisun, to let Yisun not be all there is.
Yisun is a liar, though.
If cutting one's self is a divine act, then what is Gog-agog doing when she keeps adding more bodies to herself?
>If cutting
>keeps adding
YISUN, you are terrible at being Anonymous.
Gog is doing the opposite. Every new body is a new identity, but Gog will never cut away her act to find her true identity.
Anon are you saying Allison will have to kill everyone in Throne to achieve her(Yisun's) true self? She's only got about a decade left, no time for all that.
Do you cut yourself to fit the shape of the world?
Or do you cut the world to fit the shape of you?
>what then
I like it.
>All I can see is what's in front of me. All i can do is keep moving foward
just to make a note i dont think anyone else here mentioned, but allison finally said the words zaid said to her back in jadis' temple. he told allison she said it to cio before she died, and allison was confused because she never said them
She said something similar.
this is interesting
Time frickery bullshit, great.
I can hear Alyson tak about this what-ever sword with a jeysey shor b***h vocal fry
>you're a wiener-sucking homosexual metatron
>maybe
Emmet from the lego movie is royalty.
>They're actually kind of lame
Finally, somebody gets it!
How would he fare in the KSBD universe? Is he royalty?
It just hit me that Incubus is more or less a "virgin" version of Gintoki
>both are swordsmen
>both are pale with white hair
>both were orphans in fricked up situations who got picked up by a master swordsman as a student
>both got heavily involved in war after being trained
>both killed their master
However
>Gintoki only killed his master because he was forced to
>unlike incubus he doesnt depend on a proper sword, just uses some wooden one bought by phone
>or sometimes not even a sword at all
>broken ass who barely pays rent(chad) while incubus has a huge palace with loot and owns a 7th part of the universe(virgin)
>no shits given about death
>no shits given about a lot of things really
>has friends and a small business
Gintoki is the Incubus that Meti wishes Incubus was
>I know Im going to die in exactly 35 years, so that means I can do anything I want because everything I do is already decided by fate and is destined to happen anyway
In order to be another slave cog in the wheel, Allison would have to follow the script she was given. Good thing she's too stupid to do even that and will end up breaking the will through sheer moron "strength".
That would make Tom's assblasting over jadis not being taken as gospel seem even more pathetic than it already is.
What kind of a five year old ends up mindbroken to a question like this?
I feel like this comic used to have some truly interesting themes like the necessity of violence and now it's just descending into trite feel-good themes that every children's cartoon bleats out.
Go back to where you came from, anon.
Zoss' issue is that he did not address the fundamental issue of the Wheel and is being antagonised by Metatron-It has never been that he ruled in the first place.
>this thread
How christo-parochial.
Manichean too.
I still don't think we have the full picture yet. We're meant to be seeing Zoss sometime and find out what the frick kind of level he's operating on.
I feel like one book to answer all unresolved plot threads satisfyingly is not enough.
He could do ten more books and he still wouldn't answer anything satisfyingly. It's going to be dumb asspulls the whole way while his audience comments "lol royalty" at everything.
I don't have as dim a view as you seem to do, even if do agree that i probably won't be satisfied with his answers that doesn't really bother me.
But i will heartily agree with that the RP bullshit that affects every place that discusses this comic, including these threads is a fricking menace. It's the reason i was glad when he shut down the comments on the actual site since at that point it was nothing but roleplayers sucking each other off. It's probably the thing i like least about this fandom and it never stops being annoying.
>It's the reason i was glad when he shut down the comments on the actual site since at that point it was nothing but roleplayers sucking each other off. It's probably the thing i like least about this fandom and it never stops being annoying.
Wait, he did? Bless you Abby, it got to a point I just thought he was simply pretending it didn't exist. I sure was.
Xivu explains it quite well in between sobbing over her brother's grave. You beat down Oryx and DIDN'T take up his legacy. You beat down Savathun not by being more cunning, but by having knowledge she didn't that made her presumably abandon all the Imbaru she had stored up to come get you.
You're beating the Hive by proving you don't have to be part of their sword circlejerk to rule the universe with violence, and that's why Xivu is shitting herself that they're on the path to extinction instead of the Final Shape to the extent she wants to break the Sword Logic and get back Oryx. Hell the Lone Wolf isn't even aspiring to rule at all.
Ah well shut down is probably the wrong word from me there, more accurately it would be hid.
He made it so that the comments are something you actually have to click into instead of it being automatically present after it started getting filled with some shit he didn't like.
And people called me a troll back when i was b***hing about angel named rpers.
I'm reminded of Kungfu Panda.
>Villains: gives fiery speech about overwhelming power
>Kungfu Masters: waxes philosophically about the nature of inner peace
>Po: Cool, so do you want to get something to eat?
Po is 100% a candidate for Royalty, he doesn't think, he just *Does*