Knowing how to throw a punch probably wouldn't have hurt since I can't imagine a situation other than this single episode where Bobby would really abuse it, though Hank really wasn't bringing his A game in trying to get Bobby into the idea of it.
This episode is handled pretty badly because Bobby was always defending himself or other people when he kicked them in the nuts. Low blows sure but in a regular fight anything goes.
Worst thing about the episode is that the writers bascially wrote the episode with the idea that us the audience would agree with what Bobby was doing was wrong.
Not necessarily. Hank was teaching Bobby poorly by just jabbing at him. I can see why Bobby would do what he learned (and worked). I would change it to Hank instead defending while Bobby trying and failing to get a successful hit on Hank only for Bobby to get frustrated and then kick Hank.
Probably. Most of the bullies like Chane and Clark Peters would frick off if he fought back physically in any form.
Besides Chane, the rest of the fights Bobby started himself.
The moral of the story should've had a male character kick Bobby in the balls back to show why guys don't kick each other in the balls. And at the end have him throw a solid face jab towards a bully wearing a cup.
Every kick was on Chang (defends himself), the two kids in detention (they circled on him ready to attack him before Bobby stuck first, I'd still count this as him defending himself) and on Clark (not defending himself but was defending another kid Clark was bullying so Bobby was still good.)
Literally the only kick (we see) Bobby did that was bad was on Hank but it made sense Bobby would do what he learned what Hank didn't teach.
Bobby still started it with the kids in detention and then proceeded to aim for the testicles. It's irresponsible no matter what. Especially in a realistic scenario where other guys would beat his shit in if he hit one or two of them in the balls.
With Clark, Bobby was on an obvious power streak and not trying to be a good person.
actually I think this might be a guns metaphor?
like yeah you should know how to use one, and have one to protect yourself
but because it's an insta-win against anyone no matter how much stronger they are than you, the confidence of carrying starts taking you to places you never would have gone before, and conflicts you wouldn't escalate. Bill Cosby had a whole thing about this, he lived it. Having a gun made him act tough, which was stupid where he lived. And like he said, even the cops call the cops.
Bobby didn't have the strength needed to throw an effective punch. Kicking his adversaries in the jimmy was the only move he had, and only he was shameless enough to use it.
i like how this is continuity with Bobby doing the high-step aerobics with Peggy and Luanne
otherwise those tiny lil legs wouldn't be able to kick above most people's knees let alone below their belt.
Any form of combat training requires some degree of tenacity, and that is something you need to instill when they're young.
Theoretically, a true beatdown could serve as motivation, as that's how some get into mma. Problem is, the episode doesn't really take things that far, so there's no way to know.
I wouldn’t call it a beatdown, as much as a threat of a beatdown or something embarrassing . I don’t think Chane and his friends actually hit Bobby given he’s got no bruises
I mean definitely not, but also the kind of guys who pick on Bobby are hoping for zero resistance. A decent fighting stance and a single bloodied nose and.. well, he'd have his candy ass handed to him, but they would probably leave him alone going forward. At least most of the time.
What he does have going for him is weight, stability, and to some extent shortness. It's harder to hit someone anywhere but the head when they're a lot shorter than you. and hitting someone in the head hurts your hands a lot.
No because bullies are going to fight dirty either way, whether by having his goons jump in or go for the eyes.
It's a funny episode and one of the best humor wise but as actual "advice" it's terrible because Hank is teaching Bobby all this with the extreme naivity that someone that activily seeks the harm of others is going to give a shit about fairness.
>teaching Bobby all this with the extreme naivity that someone that activily seeks the harm of others is going to give a shit about fairness.
Regardless of fair fighting, boxing is pretty good for self defense given ir can help you with timing and hitting, it’s just best used as long as you don’t expect boxing rules
I’m saying it’s more useful than useless. It doesn’t need to even help him win but knowing how to dive and block punches would definitely reduce any injuries.
>just fight back I'll cover ya
I know Hank's supposed to be old-fashioned, but lol. You'd think the episode would be teetering it's moral dick over Hank thinking self-defense in school is reasonable at all.
Yes absolutely, especially given how most the fights Bobby was getting in were against noncommited goobers and cowards. Chane would've been just as humbled by a decent punch as he was by a low blow. In general knowing how to fight with decent form and a clear head is better than most losers who throw nothing but the most telegraphed haymakers, not to imply that it'd save Bobby from a bunch of hicks chimping out and ganging up on him or an idiot who can actually take a punch, but similarly Bobby would be screwed if he wiffed any of those kicks or met someone who knew how approach perpendicular to Bobby.
Knowing how to throw a punch probably wouldn't have hurt since I can't imagine a situation other than this single episode where Bobby would really abuse it, though Hank really wasn't bringing his A game in trying to get Bobby into the idea of it.
This episode is handled pretty badly because Bobby was always defending himself or other people when he kicked them in the nuts. Low blows sure but in a regular fight anything goes.
Worst thing about the episode is that the writers bascially wrote the episode with the idea that us the audience would agree with what Bobby was doing was wrong.
It turned wrong when did it to Hank. You can think whatever you want up until that point where you're supposed to realize Bobby is power mad
Not necessarily. Hank was teaching Bobby poorly by just jabbing at him. I can see why Bobby would do what he learned (and worked). I would change it to Hank instead defending while Bobby trying and failing to get a successful hit on Hank only for Bobby to get frustrated and then kick Hank.
Probably. Most of the bullies like Chane and Clark Peters would frick off if he fought back physically in any form.
Besides Chane, the rest of the fights Bobby started himself.
The moral of the story should've had a male character kick Bobby in the balls back to show why guys don't kick each other in the balls. And at the end have him throw a solid face jab towards a bully wearing a cup.
Every kick was on Chang (defends himself), the two kids in detention (they circled on him ready to attack him before Bobby stuck first, I'd still count this as him defending himself) and on Clark (not defending himself but was defending another kid Clark was bullying so Bobby was still good.)
Literally the only kick (we see) Bobby did that was bad was on Hank but it made sense Bobby would do what he learned what Hank didn't teach.
Bobby still started it with the kids in detention and then proceeded to aim for the testicles. It's irresponsible no matter what. Especially in a realistic scenario where other guys would beat his shit in if he hit one or two of them in the balls.
With Clark, Bobby was on an obvious power streak and not trying to be a good person.
actually I think this might be a guns metaphor?
like yeah you should know how to use one, and have one to protect yourself
but because it's an insta-win against anyone no matter how much stronger they are than you, the confidence of carrying starts taking you to places you never would have gone before, and conflicts you wouldn't escalate. Bill Cosby had a whole thing about this, he lived it. Having a gun made him act tough, which was stupid where he lived. And like he said, even the cops call the cops.
Bobby didn't have the strength needed to throw an effective punch. Kicking his adversaries in the jimmy was the only move he had, and only he was shameless enough to use it.
Or reach. Or speed. And he might get winded throwing a few punches. What’s really sad is that Chane didn’t know how to guard his crotch.
i like how this is continuity with Bobby doing the high-step aerobics with Peggy and Luanne
otherwise those tiny lil legs wouldn't be able to kick above most people's knees let alone below their belt.
Any form of combat training requires some degree of tenacity, and that is something you need to instill when they're young.
Theoretically, a true beatdown could serve as motivation, as that's how some get into mma. Problem is, the episode doesn't really take things that far, so there's no way to know.
I wouldn’t call it a beatdown, as much as a threat of a beatdown or something embarrassing . I don’t think Chane and his friends actually hit Bobby given he’s got no bruises
martial arts or any other shit like that are useless for the weak.
I mean definitely not, but also the kind of guys who pick on Bobby are hoping for zero resistance. A decent fighting stance and a single bloodied nose and.. well, he'd have his candy ass handed to him, but they would probably leave him alone going forward. At least most of the time.
What he does have going for him is weight, stability, and to some extent shortness. It's harder to hit someone anywhere but the head when they're a lot shorter than you. and hitting someone in the head hurts your hands a lot.
Then they would just kick him
No because bullies are going to fight dirty either way, whether by having his goons jump in or go for the eyes.
It's a funny episode and one of the best humor wise but as actual "advice" it's terrible because Hank is teaching Bobby all this with the extreme naivity that someone that activily seeks the harm of others is going to give a shit about fairness.
>teaching Bobby all this with the extreme naivity that someone that activily seeks the harm of others is going to give a shit about fairness.
Regardless of fair fighting, boxing is pretty good for self defense given ir can help you with timing and hitting, it’s just best used as long as you don’t expect boxing rules
You really expect Bobby to 1V3 people who are more physically fit them? That's a big ask for even a professional boxer.
I’m saying it’s more useful than useless. It doesn’t need to even help him win but knowing how to dive and block punches would definitely reduce any injuries.
You can at least teach him how to slip a punch
Training builds character, which Bobby Hill desperately needs
Kinda, but y'know what would really help? POCKETSAND!
>just fight back I'll cover ya
I know Hank's supposed to be old-fashioned, but lol. You'd think the episode would be teetering it's moral dick over Hank thinking self-defense in school is reasonable at all.
Yes absolutely, especially given how most the fights Bobby was getting in were against noncommited goobers and cowards. Chane would've been just as humbled by a decent punch as he was by a low blow. In general knowing how to fight with decent form and a clear head is better than most losers who throw nothing but the most telegraphed haymakers, not to imply that it'd save Bobby from a bunch of hicks chimping out and ganging up on him or an idiot who can actually take a punch, but similarly Bobby would be screwed if he wiffed any of those kicks or met someone who knew how approach perpendicular to Bobby.