Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree their romance is probably one of the most satisfying and well-executed in recent /m/emory?
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Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree their romance is probably one of the most satisfying and well-executed in recent /m/emory?
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too obvious
also i hate women
I'm sorry OP. You did nothing wrong.
If the tourist could please drag his wrist across something sharp and rusty so we can be spared this 1984 five-minutes of hate bullshit threads for the foreseeable future, it would be appreciated.
If this tourist could please walk blindfolded into traffic so we could be spared this /m/ boomer shitspeak, it would be appreciated.
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree OP is a total homosexual that loves to gargle on giant wieners?
That we can.
Yes
You're a gay homosexualty gay OP
Frick off tourist piece of shit.
No. Hell no. Lyrical Nanoha and even Symphogear have better romance and character relationships.
because they took time to develop it inbetween the horny and fights, the things the fanbase probably signed up for initially before they revealed the lesbians
YURISCUM KEEP MOVING
THIS IS A FUDANSHI MAN'S NEIGHBORHOOD
>Lockon x Tieria confirmed by official manga after OO
>Suletta x Miorine thrown into the gutter by Bandai after WfM
>official
lol
lmao
Doujins aren't official
x Tieria confirmed by official manga after OO
It’s confirmed Tieria had a crush on Lockon but nothing past that. No need to lie about it bro.
It wasn’t a doujin, it was an officially published series of comics between runs that showed what the meisters were doing in between S1 and S2 for Setsuna, Tieria, and Allelujah, and what they were doing between S2 and the movie for Lyle. They’re out there somewhere translated.
>it was an officially published series of comics
So does Char Deleted Affair and Zeta Define, doesn't make it less moronic tho.
You’ve never even read it. It’s not just Tieria creaming over Lockon, the entire thing is a way of filling in the gaps in time and helping fill in back story. Setsuna’s explains why he knows Lyle exists, something that you can only find out he knew because Neil told him in the scene where he was going to shoot him after Tieria left. It’s an official part of the story. I’d recommend you read it before comparing it to things that I’m assuming actually mess with canon because that series of comics is meant as supplementary material to further your understanding of the source.
So by that logic, Setsuna x Marina is canon too because of the 00 movie manga?
You mean the manga that the director, creator, and most of the staff disavow because it missed the point? You’re also missing the fact that the all of the 00 manga outside of Yun Kouga’s and the In Those Days manga are just adaptations/reimaginings. They’re very blatant about not being canon and merely being an adaptation of it while the in between ones make it clear they’re answering questions people had about how things went down and clear up certain things like How Setsuna even knew Lyle existed to begin with.
Outta the way gays the kino couple have arrived.
Frick off tourist.
You first
have a nice day
>can we all agree their romance is probably one of the most satisfying and well-executed in recent /m/emory?
OP is bait but lesbians rule and its funny seeing these edgy tourists scream about other tourists in a blatant falseflag thread so I hope it stays up.
I just think Yaoigays and fujoshi generally make more creative and better for literally everybody type media vs the literal braindead coomer shit of yurihomosexuals. It’s a simple fact.
Reply like a normal person homosexual, this isn't Cinemaphile.
Guel deserves better than that.
He should frick his dog
Elan4 and Suletta unironically had more chemistry, that's why yurigays hate him.
reminder that Suletta only got with Miorine because El4n fricking died.
it's like Fa who only got with Kamille because Four died
"Romance" aside, Suletta was under the impression that he was alive for nearly the entire run of the show. She chose to be a Miorine simp.
She took him not interacting with her in the same way as rejection so she felt pushed to Miorine.
No, she begged Miorine to go to the incubation party just so she could see him and was relieved when she did. The whole reason that Miorine acts like a c**t in episode 10 is because she was still under the impression that Suletta liked El4n.
I mean after El4n died and didn't meet her when he was supposed to. She took that as rejection and pursued Miorine instead.
She didn't though, she still wanted to see him even when he "died". She even gets embarrassed when Miorine tells Shaddiq that that's the whole reason they're at the incubation party.
Yeah and then she's obsessed with Miorine. It's obvious she liked him, then she moved on.
It's only really twice. One of those times was her just being overwhelmed and the other was after he insulted her kek. Unless you're thinking of something else.
>She didn't though, she still wanted to see him even when he "died". She even gets embarrassed when Miorine tells Shaddiq that that's the whole reason they're at the incubation party.
And then Suletta fell hard for Miorine at said party.
Four (heh) times actually
Once while being fed prison slop by him
Then when she gets insulted by him (which is more of him insulting gundams as a concept which is pretty warranted)
Then when she's on the same bench she waited for him on after #5 tells her what little he knew about him as a fellow enhanced human.
Then during the ending the moment before goes full Unicorn
>Once while being fed prison slop by him
She cried because she's in jail, not because of him
>Then when she gets insulted by him (which is more of him insulting gundams as a concept which is pretty warranted)
And you think that's romantic?
>Then when she's on the same bench she waited for him on after #5 tells her what little he knew about him as a fellow enhanced human.
It's hardly a cry, of course you will drop a little bit of tears hearing your classmate/friend died, nothing special at all.
>Then during the ending the moment before goes full Unicorn
Poor writing to pander to yumejos, again, hardly a cry.
About as romantic as any moment with Miorine
>Literally show tears
>Hardly a cry
What?
>omg the girl cried for the boy, so romantic
>eh who wants to watch 2 girls helping each other to grow, it's so boring
Yup, that's exactly what heteronormativity is.
YWNBAW, even if you argue like one
>YWNBAW
Seriously, why would anyone want to become a woman?
Yes.
Imagine if instead of using body doubles to introduce Elan Prime, 4, and 5's characters, they depicted Elan suffering from dissociative identity disorder.
Why are yurigays so against the idea that El4n holds a special place in Suletta's heart? It's just like Four to Kamille. Or would it be more acceptable to you if he were a female?
The bittersweet tears should tell you how Suletta was genuinely happy to see El4n again.
It's funny they keep denying it even with all the hints and official info proving it. Why are yurigays like this.
Because it's only ever brought up to downplay Suletta's feelings for Miorine.
Thanks for reminding everyone how Suletta was obsessed with El4n.
Reminder that Suletta cried over him 4 times but only felt a similar level of emotion for Miorine once (and it was when she lost Aerial at the same time so it wasn't even completely for her)
It was directly said by Okuchi in interviews that El4n was Suletta's first love.
Really? First I've heard of this
It's been around for a while, but some delusional puritygays and lesbian twittards kept denying and said it was "mistranslated".
If you actually watched Gundam you would know El4n being no.4 but not 1, 2, 3 for a reason.
https://www.zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=9985
Post the translation here deacon, I'm not giving you any ad revenue.
>As for the three families, he can’t comment much on Shaddiq, but says Elan is the first love for Suletta, Guel is the first enemy. Emphasises that it’d be a waste to have a character like that just tossed away after the first ep, so he’ll be involved later.
You don't need to have watched Gundam or read some interview to know this. Puritygays are just morons. Ffs Miorine literally says "I can tolerate....some minor two-timing".
I know that much, I just find outright denial of a director's words to be funny
That's Kira and Cagalli.
there's more, the novel in the pov of Suletta literally has it talking about her heart going insane and her blushing.
Does some people just want to ignore bisexual or what?
The only part of the novel anyone paid attention to was Miorine's weird original character do not steal ex-girlfriend since I guess the writer wanted to soften the blow of her having a crush on Shaddiq or something
she wasn't really Miorine girlfriend. Basically, they were best friends when young. but the relation seemingly was completely one sided.
>her having a crush on Shaddiq
Are you talking about Miorine? Because she absolutely did not lol. She dismissed him every chance she got.
during the course of the show yeah but the entire point of the episode that ends with him getting giga cucked is that he didn't go for her when he had the chance, hence the EXTREMELY subtle and clever green tomato metaphor
>when he had the chance
That doesn’t mean she had a crush on him though. The green tomato wasn’t just to show that he lost his chance, it was to also show that she never felt anything for him up until that point. Could that have changed? Maybe, but her main issue with him was that he was untrustworthy and an opportunist.
That doesn’t change even if he does pursue her. It doesn’t even change AFTER he got megacucked. Ffs he doesn’t even give a shit about her outside of his crush. He basically leaves her out to dry with the holder shit in an attempt to seem like he’s above else and STILL only attempts to take it when Gund-arm gets formed. Oh yeah and I’m pretty sure he was the one who called the cops on Suletta in episode 2 lol. Absolutely hilarious character.
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Well in The first place what /m/ show really even cared for romance in recent times? Pretty much none. G-witch had no competition but epwrsonally I felt their relationship was weaker than Garrod and Tiffas.
>Well in The first place what /m/ show really even cared for romance in recent times?
Not gbitch, that's for sure.
Hayato Hayasugi and Azusa Ueda.
I know you're trolling but people really believe it and that's sad
Yurigays have to savour every bone tossed their way, lol
Imagine making a romance show where the main couple gets outdone by the schizo moron with a tenth of the screentime
>Would-be Magical Girl befriends a typical American protagonist
I love these feds like you wouldn't believe.
they have really hot doujins, at least. that zhuotian shit is excellent
I will be honest: Almost all couples in Gundam suck ass for some reason.
This one wasn't that good either and I'm tired of lettting people pretend otherwise. That said it's not like it has much competition for romance compared to other mecha in the last few years so of course shippers got attached to it.
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The best romance in recent /m/emory is Shinn and Lunamaria cheerfully double-teaming Kira on deployments after they learn that Lacus doesn’t put out.
I'm gonna be real for a second, despite knowing full well this is a bait thread, I was confused where all the SulettaxMiorine fanart and shit was coming from until the very last episode.
It felt like it was extremely shoehorned in to appeal to gays. Guel and Suletta had way more chemistry imo, doesn't help they are basically 2 of the very few likeable characters in the whole show.
Miorine doesn't even so much as think about Suletta for 9/10 of S2 for fricks sakes, and this is coming from someone who actually kinda likes the show.
The OP/ED and marketing mostly
GueSule is basically the second most popular ship besides the main ship (SuleMio). And it's the most popular M/F pairing.
>Miorine doesn't even so much as think about Suletta for 9/10 of S2 for fricks sakes
Confirms for not watching the show.
Delusional homosexual.
That's you. Suletta is usually the sole thing on Miomio's mind for 90% of season 2.
Eh, more like 70%
Halfway through S2 she just magically decides that the company she made on a whim to save Suletta is something she now sincerely cares about apparently and apparently the earthians she pressed ganged into working for her are now close friends with her even though the only house member with something approaching a personality barely tolerates her
Careful, one of these trannies might claim "she's just tsundere".
>I am going to abandon and screw over the person I love to "protect" her and then go no contact and frick off to space
Bro Miorine straight up helps sabotage Aerial so that Guel could become her fiance again
Did YOU watch the show?
But it was for her own good! (but in the end doesn't help at all and Miorine just lets Earth house do all the emotional support for her lol)
Lol yep, not to mention she straight up tells Miorine she wants nothing to do with her because she watched her tomato paste a man right in front of her, but like you (I'm assuming) said, she's just tsundere (is the excuse these morons regurgitate)!
I love Suletta, she's really cute in her own autistic way, and I hate Miorine because she's a total fricking c**t, but I'll admit she was justified in avoiding Suletta because that was pretty fricked up.
>but I'll admit she was justified in avoiding Suletta because that was pretty fricked up.
Killing someone to protect your fiance and her dad is completely justified. Suletta is just autistic and didn't express her emotions very well. Miorine is unironically ableist, and clone-ist.
I like the show and I thought Elan numero Cinco / Norea was far more interesting as a couple. Or Guel and Suletta. Or Norea and Sophie. Literally anyone else, Miornie was a dickhead.
The problem is not her killing the person. The problem that how Suletta reacted with the way she killed the person.
It creeped out Miorine, and made here realize just how brainwashed Suletta is to follow her mother's binding.
Shame the show didn’t do Juche to follow up with that and Miorine ends up agreeing it was a good thing
She didn't, rewatch ep 16.
>It creeped out Miorine, and made here realize just how brainwashed Suletta is to follow her mother's binding.
Like I said, suletta is just very autistic. It was a clear case of self defense
The show has the kira yamato problem where even the things that Suletta is supposed to have done "wrong" and feel guilty about are still things that she's ultimately justified in doing
Suletta has a whole in the entire show has zero lose beside the rigged one against Guel. She's not even that good of a pilot too, overusing her permet shit and having god tier MS.
Either she completely dominates her opponent due to simply having much much better technologies, or her opponents take it easy/refuse to kill her when they could.
She's not allowed to really lose by the story itself. Yet no one calls her jesus like Kira.
She goes toe to toe with Eri at the end of the show on her own and does fine. She's the best pilot in the setting by a long margin. She also fights most of the battle royale without Eri helping. There really isn't any question about her skill.
Good point. Always thought it was interesting how Eri sort of just tanked the bulk of the pharact effect just for Suletta, recalling the time El5n tried to pilot Aerial and had it totally wreck his shit the very moment he tried.
One thing the show never really answered was whether Suletta could pilot Aerial on her own without negative effects. We know she has some kind of buff from Eri's genetics, Bel said so and she didn't die from the pilot fryer 3000. But does she have the full ability? Or is a different one?
And we don't know the true nature of Eri's abilities either. Could she sync up with any gundam? Or was it specifically Lfrith/Aerial that she was attuned to? Prospera makes it sound like it might be the latter. She said that Eri's biosignature perfectly synced with Aerial's gund system. But we don't really know what that means.
Nice quads, the way I saw it, Eri acted as the lightning rod for the pharact (or whatever the negative effect is called) in Aerial specifically, so Suletta could pilot it without issue.
Eri never expressed any discomfort in the show, but every time we see "her" (for it's not actually the real Eri, just her "biocode" or whatever), she has the blush effect everybody else got.
Which, to me, seems even more fricked up on their mom's behalf. She's keeping Eri "alive" through Aerial, but she's probably suffering the pharact effect nonstop any time Aerial is running. I could be wrong though as this is all just speculation on my part.
>Eri acted as the lightning rod for the pharact
Pharact is the name of piel's gundam. Its the one that looks like its from Armored Core (because it is)
What you are referring to is the gundam curse.
So the TLDR is this. Permet is the magic space material in the show. All electronics use it and its kick ass. The GUND format is a man-machine interface technology that uses permet. GUNDams use the GUND format, hence their name. Normal mobile suits don't. GUND tech means you can control things as if they are part of your body. At first they made prosthetics with this and it works well. But controlling a giant robot this way is really hard on the body and can give you a heart attack. This is all quickly covered in the prologue.
Eri does act like a "lightning rod" for her. Everyone is amazed that she doesn't have negative effects and thinks they fixed the problem, or Suletta is special. She is but not in that way. Eri even goes so far with the ruse in EP6 to make El4n think that Aerial is normal and lets him feel the GUND format but taking it easy on him.
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>Eri never expressed any discomfort in the show, but every time we see "her" (for it's not actually the real Eri, just her "biocode" or whatever), she has the blush effect everybody else got.
Those lines have to do with the permet links that pilots have. They don't explain in detail but it might literally be permet injected into their bodies. What's important is everyone had red permet marks, except Eri. (And later Suletta) That is supposed to signal her special ability. Eri does not have negative effects from using the GUND format. Or maybe she does? She did fricking die. Prospera says she died because space but doesn't explain things. We know even using GUND at low permet score will eventually kill you. Maybe it killed her? This is another reason we need more info.
>Which, to me, seems even more fricked up on their mom's behalf. She's keeping Eri "alive" through Aerial, but she's probably suffering the pharact effect nonstop any time Aerial is running. I could be wrong though as this is all just speculation on my part.
I don't think she has any discomfort. But Prospera did upload her dying daughter into a Gundam to save her. That is fricked up. Eri is basically Johnny Silverhand and Suletta is V. Except Eri isn't taking over her sister's body. Digital un-life, especially when you spend most of that time unable to talk to anybody sounds awful.
>when you spend most of that time unable to talk to anybody sounds awful.
Obviously being stuck in a gundam like that is awful but she did have Suletta around 90% of the time. They both essentially grew up together and Suletta talked to her like a normal person.
No, but I remember there being a part in Vandais Heart where the research lady Vilma talks about how its possible to create a stronger link with the GUND format by forming some sort of bond with the machines or stimulating your brain activity.
Also, when Elnora is trying to sync with the Lfrith, she's doing so using "layers" and not permet score (she even gets scolded when she asks to raise it). Permet score seems like a brute force way of using the GUND format while layers are used to try and perfectly sync without negative effects.
Afaik we never see any other gundam use layers, so we can assume that the Lfrith was specifically made with them in order to protect the pilot from data storms and all it needed was someone to perfectly sync with it. My theory is that Eri's special genes + her talking and bonding with the Lfrith is what allowed her to perfectly sync with the gundam.
>Afaik we never see any other gundam use layers,
We see Suletta go through a similar process with Calibarn. I think that process is there for all Gundams, we just dont see it all the time for practical reasons. And raising the permet score helps with making the connection but yeah its a brute force method and dangerous.
>We see Suletta go through a similar process with Calibarn
We don't though. She's still using permet score and it's explicitly said that the Calibarn has no data storm filters.
>Except Eri isn't taking over her sister's body.
They should've explored this angle, and had more uploaded people. If they're gonna rip off the. contact experiment from Eva just go all the way
>Digital un-life, especially when you spend most of that time unable to talk to anybody sounds awful.
I wonder how many problems would have been fixed by just giving Eri a speaker. Or is she only conscious when Suletta is there?
>somehow the gacha keychain Suletta got allowed Eri to speak to everybody around her
>but not fricking Aerial
lmfao
>Show has ridiculously advanced cybernetics
>Prospera has experience with this technology
>It never occurred to her to just build a body for Eri
Also
>the most advanced fighting machine in existence which houses an uploaded human can't communicate with anyone on its own
I mean we saw Suletta talking to Eri and the others when she fought Shadman, why was that never expanded on?
I dunno, but I will go on a tangent here and say that I hated Prospera with all my heart. I wanted to strangle her every time she appeared on screen. Just completely irredeemable in every way.
If that's what they were going for, then I applaud them, but I feel like they tried to get the audience to sympathize with her, especially towards the end, which they absolutely failed at.
She's a completely terrible person with zero redeeming qualities, and I dont understand the ending of her just chilling in a wheel chair. I have to assume it's a cultural difference but if I found out my mother had put my older sister into a gundam and sacrificed 12 other clones of me, and wanted to take over the world, I'd have just shot her.
Agreed, I was hoping it was suggested that she got the Kateijina treatment, but I kind of get the feeling that's not the case, as I think I remember Suletta saying she's recovering or something like that in the closing scene.
I think its another case of suffering for run time. Going off the tempest what's supposed to happen is Prospero gives up on his plan for revenge at the end. That happens in Gwitch, Prospera gives up on killing Delling. But we never really see her consciously do that. Its just dropped? So it leaves you feeling wtf is so redeeming about her. They had to make some tough choices on what to animate and what not but I think they should have cut back on side stuff majorly in order to fit the key plot threads.
Agreed. His return to Jeturk and lack of self awareness seems really odd. I expected him to be more empathetic and less self absorbed. But instead he took everything on himself and went inside his shell. Like the other Anon said, I thought it was a cultural thing. But then the writers showed what he did was wrong with Lauda's issues. So now I'm just baffled.
I guess I can understand him not wanting to share his oopsie with Lauda, he went through a lot in barely two weeks in-universe. But it's just badly done, his PTSD magically disappears after his duel with Suletta, he barely interacts with anyone after episode 17, his implied suicidal issues are barely touched upon and of course his conclusion in the epilogue barely made any sense imo.
Agreed.
Because we needed absolute victory for Suletta and all the bitter sweetness in the ending was boilerplate.
The funniest thing is how it's framed. Guin getting away with everything still doesn't feel wrong since it's clear he's a fugitive who now lives a life in hiding. Prospers, the piece of shit who gladly caused a massacre between factions she wasn't even directly involved with, gets away scott free because she's miorine's mother in law.
And apparently i should feel sad for her because she was actually crippled from the waist down this entire time too? Frick off gwitch.
What was even the point of GUND arm "developing" prosthetics if they are no more advanced than the prosthetics from 20 years ago? The more you think about GUND arm as a company the more moronic it becomes
I think GUND prosthetics cripple you further too (see Prospera)
That’s just because all the other pilots in the AU are braindead and there’s no sense of strategy or anything.
against a pilot that doesn't really wish to harm her in a mobile suit that still has the GUND format, meaning she doesn't even need to control it manually. The moment she needs to fight without the GUND format she's explicitely stated to be average
>meaning she doesn't even need to control it manually
She does, Eri only ever takes control of the Aerial from her in ep 14.
No, i mean that she doesn't actually need to control the machine manually because it pretty much reads her mind. From score 2 upwards the controls are pretty much superficial and the mobile suit is linked to the pilot's brain seamlessly which you can see when Elan 4 tests out Aerial in episode 5.
Gundams in Ad Stella completely outclass conventional mobile suits, which is why the SAL still kept caches of pre-production Lfrith's around. They're so powerful they could flatten every other mobile suit despite being 20 years out of date
She took on Grassely house in the rumble on her own for most of the fight and couldn't use the GUND format Anon. Chu Chu saved it at the end but Suletta did most of the work herself. I think that's a good showing. I wish the show did give us an episode where she kicked ass in a grunt suit. Like that time Heero piloted a Leo with the alliance remnant for an EP or two.
None of what she did was a good showing because the only reason she won was because things happened to fall in her favor. There's a difference between being lucky a few times but on top of that when facing her, most of her opponents always lose a few braincells and she's able to do any and everything needed. She has no proper rival nor any proper growth or showing as a pilot. She's only good because everyone else around her who pilots sucks at it or simply doesnt do it. Aerial carried her on top of her just always facing people during theie dumbest moments.
Saying that doesn't make it so. If you want people to believe you then you will need to explain why and give examples.
>Aerial carried her on top of her just always facing people during theie dumbest moments.
The RX-78 carried Amuro through the first half of MSG Anon. What's your point?
Rather than trying anything different, pilots take the exact same approach. Rather than it being an arms race where the companies develop their own ways to deal with the gundam, they try and steal it which defeats the purpose of the setting. Characters miss easy shots and there are times where the only reason Aerial doesn’t lose is because characters are forced to not let her lose. Shaddiq could have taken out Aerial and Chuchu still could have gotten the winning shot for Earth House but Aerial couldn’t actually be put out of commission because it means Suletta loses which they refused to let happen because of anyone being better than her.
>The RX-78 carried Amuro through the first half of MSG Anon. What's your point?
You can’t really use that as an example because Amuro had to grow out of that and grow as a pilot himself. Suletta never outgrew Aerial. Getting Calibarn was because she got kicked out of it not an actually interesting way to show the change in fighting preference or to show where she came from like with Amuro. As a pilot, Amuro started matching the Gundam, Suletta has a moment where she tries to but it falls flat when it’s only preceded by victory after victory where for her, there’s no doubts about her piloting skills or whether she’s relying too much on the machine or not. Explaining it feels like an unnecessary effort when it’s so blatantly in the face of anyone who’s watched any other mecha. There’s 0 strategy and so many battles are just basic shootout except the pilots have -100 accuracy until they really really need to get a hit in to raise the stakes and then Suletta gets her second wind and entirely dominates with the bits. Fricking Mika tethering himself to a suit too quick for him to catch and getting thrown around because of it had more strategic thought put into it than anything Suletta or Miorine ever did regarding the fights and that manlet was dumb as bricks. There’s no strategic flare, just bright lights.
Suletta should been using some random MS first before getting Calibarn.
It's pretty much common trope in mecha anime that work.
I guess writer really want to subvert lot's of common trope, but the end result kinda lack luster.
I mean she piloted a grunt for school and did some training. I was more disappointed that she never got to get with Nika to see if they could play with Aerial’s capabilities more. Like if you go through the effort of having the mechanic character, let them show off their skills more. It would have been an interesting way to also get them to see more of Ochs Earth records hidden within Aerial and further give them insight into Gund Arm tech as well. So just by letting anyone work on it you further Suletta’s specialty in the suit, Give more crumbs fir Ochs Earth, and let Nika be more involved in important things. Suletta as she is just doesn’t allow for much plot to happen involving her and it drags down her entire ensemble cast. She should have been allowed to lose way before the 2nd season so Earth house had something actually to do.
>I mean she piloted a grunt for school and did some training.
I know, but i'm talking about during active conflict on screen.
It's so they can established her piloting skill more.
I do agree with wasting on mechanic character but shoved her to the "wait for plot" gulag.
>Rather than trying anything different, pilots take the exact same approach.
I felt the named pilots all had distinctive enough fighting styles. Guel's was the dumbest and fits your description but he's depicted as not very smart and stubborn.
>Rather than it being an arms race where the companies develop their own ways to deal with the gundam, they try and steal it which defeats the purpose of the setting.
They all have very distinctive designs and approaches Anon. I'm not sure how you got to that conclusion. Guel goes through three distinct suit upgrades over the course of the show and even integrates the Jeturk AI to control his funnels. Piel switches up the build of Pharact from a sniper rifle to double trigger AC style when El5n takes over.
>Characters miss easy shots and there are times where the only reason Aerial doesn’t lose is because characters are forced to not let her lose. Shaddiq could have taken out Aerial and Chuchu still could have gotten the winning shot for Earth House but Aerial couldn’t actually be put out of commission because it means Suletta loses which they refused to let happen because of anyone being better than her.
This isn't really a complaint about her piloting skill and more a complaint about narrative structure and fight choreography. That's not the in universe fault of the characters.
>You can’t really use that as an example because Amuro had to grow out of that and grow as a pilot himself. Suletta never outgrew Aerial
Suletta had half the episodes. Gwitch ended when most pilots would get their mid show upgrade.
>. Explaining it feels like an unnecessary effort when it’s so blatantly in the face of anyone who’s watched any other mecha.
Anon, the entire fighting "strategy" of Wing was to stand there, tank shots and shoot back. I'll agree that there are some stand out shows with excellent fight choreography. But Gwitch is not sub par by the standards of the genre. I think its generally above average.
>I felt the named pilots all had distinctive enough fighting styles
They really didn’t. Most fights in G-Witch follow the same structure of taking pot shots, fail to get close, Suletta says up permet score and then the bits win it. Guel’s style is just missing his shots except when he hits then and endlessly charging forward. Only difference between him and Suletta is Suletta lets the bits charge forward for her.
>They all have very distinctive designs and approaches Anon
In terms of design? Absolutely. In function? No, not really. Every suit feels like it functions the exact same. There aren’t any different approaches they like to take outside of maybe one battle where they use their gimmick and then it’s never used again. It’s boring and makes the fights feel samey.
>That's not the in universe fault of the characters.
Technically it is since Shaddiq let his pride get the better of him and most pilots do the same when it comes to Suletta.
>Suletta had half the episodes. Gwitch ended when most pilots would get their mid show upgrade.
That’s not an excuse considering IBO’s 1st season managed to show off Mika’s growth as a pilot who learned better ways to deal with his opponents effectively. Suletta is just the perfect pilot, full stop. She doesn’t grow or anything it’s boring.
>Anon, the entire fighting "strategy" of Wing was to stand there, tank shots and shoot back. I'll agree that there are some stand out shows with excellent fight choreography. But Gwitch is not sub par by the standards of the genre. I think its generally above average.
Did I ever say that Wing was good or a good example of good fights? I meant more modern shows that do put effort into the mech fights instead of covering everything with bright lights and hoping people scream kino as the screen blinds them.
IDK Anon, it feels like you just watched a completely different show. The fights were fine.
>Did I ever say that Wing was good or a good example of good fights? I meant more modern shows that do put effort into the mech fights instead of covering everything with bright lights and hoping people scream kino as the screen blinds them.
Such as? The only other show you've mentioned was IBO. What other modern mecha show have you watched? I mentioned Wing because its cheap animation and choreography is par for most mecha anime. Gwitch at least didn't reuse animation in its fights which is more than you can say for pretty much every Gundam AU.
No? We see her struggle in the land mine test but that's because the other students sabotaged her. She persisted and managed to pass it blind after a lot of attempts.
They weren’t, they were only “fine” because of the spectacle of the light show.
> The only other show you've mentioned was IBO. What other modern mecha show have you watched?
00 hd distinct fighting styles for each different grunt suit throughout the 1st season before they moved to a standard, G-Reco actually had interesting movement and clashes, and A/Z for as bad as it was, had eggs winning because he usually pulled of some really outlandish strategic move. Most mecha I’ve seen has the pilots win due to an absurd strategy which is outlandish but it’s interesting. Suletta only ends up winning and the fight is only a fight because he never goes all out from the beginning and waits until a super climactic moment to use the bits effectively rather than doing that from the outset. I’d rather her just outright win when she has the button to and no one ever counters it so when the fights are needlessly dragged out it’s boring.
He would be if he was allowed to use his brain more or at all. He just holds forward for as long as he can. A lot of the pilots in Ad Stella could be good but they’re all literally bottom of the barely in the grand scheme of pilots but somehow it’s passable here.
>Suletta says up permet score
She literally never says that.
She may as well have
Instead for her it's automatic and we just get prospera going "wow her permet score is getting higher and higher" in the background
Okouchi really saw Zeta and Unicorn handwaving away mobile suits at the end of their respective stories and decided to make an entire show out of it
Literally it only goes up in the Shaddiq fight and her third fight with Guel.
Because it’s already so high in the first place.
it's a very boring way to show technological superiority
>need funnels to be more funnely-er? raise permet score
>need to ignore antidote? raise permet score
>need to overide everything? raise permet score
>need to ignore being overidden? raise permet score
Be sure to remind me when we get the ZZ remake where everyone announces their "newtype level" after doing something impressive
>Be sure to remind me when we get the ZZ remake where everyone announces their "newtype level" after doing something impressive
Kek, that raises a valid point imo. Whenever newtype shenanigans happened (like when Laina was shot and Judau gets pissed) it's really cool and makes me root for them. Whenever it happened in G Witch, it was just kind of lame and felt mary sue.
I'm sure the loser ITT will say it's because of sexism, but I think it's more because it was overused and didn't have much impact. Oh the underdog is getting the upper hand, guess Suletta will activate god mode now. Became eye roll inducing after the 5th time.
I mean but when someone like Louise or Soma did it it was interesting and well regarded. Suletta is just a mary sue protagonist who has false struggles just to make you sympathetic to her rather than to actually have her struggling.
>because it was overused
Literally only in ep 9 and 17.
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Nice strawman. You aren't sexist. You are just incapable of liking new things and feel a need to be a contrarian. Z and ZZ are both slogs. And not because they are "dark" and "brutal" but because they are mediocre. Funny how this place will make fun of them for years but then put them on a pedestal just to shit on a new show they decide people shouldn't like.
I remember people liking Zeta even in 2008.
They've got good stuff in them but they are hardly perfect. ZZ has a massive tone shift and the first chunk of the show is a joke.
What compels someone to post shit like this? Americans are so moronic.
Post hands.
Lol I like how you know I was calling you out because you already said some dumb shit like
but you're too prideful to just shut the frick up, put a trip on if you're going to attentionprostitute that hard.
Also, hilarious that you accuse me of not liking new things, as I actually like G Witch, and I like it for the same reason I like ZZ, and have since first coming to /m/ in 2010, because they're goofy ass jap toy commercials, and anybody who overanalyzes them for how deep they are and how these stupid cartoons rep trannies and homosexuals is either one of these deluded perverts themselves, or worse, a simp ass b***h and enabler, and I'm willing to bet you're the latter. Now it's your turn to post hand pussy
>Lol I like how you know I was calling you out because you already said some dumb shit like
>omg the girl cried for the boy, so romantic
>eh who wants to watch 2 girls helping each other to grow, it's so boring
Yup, that's exactly what heteronormativity is. but you're too prideful to just shut the frick up, put a trip on if you're going to attentionprostitute that hard.
There's more than one person on this site moron. I called you out because of the stupid Zeta comments.
>how these stupid cartoons rep trannies and homosexuals is either one of these deluded perverts themselves, or worse, a simp ass b***h and enabler, and I'm willing to bet you're the latter. Now it's your turn to post hand pussy
I swear, you homosexuals let that shit live rent free in your heads 24/7. I'll give you credit though. You did post hands.
Holy greaseballs.
>I swear, you homosexuals let that shit live rent free in your heads 24/7.
There are actual people, in this very thread, accusing people of homophobia, I even responded to that post to make it easy for you. How is that rent free? They're actively shitting up the community, and you're defending them. So I was 100% correct, you're a simp, and you're also fat.
Its rent free because you are sperging out about an unrelated post made by someone else 2 days ago. I didn't bring that shit up. You did. And I said you weren't sexist, you're just a contrarian.
>I even responded to that post to make it easy for you.
Kek dont pretend you were doing me a service. You thought that was me and you were trying to be clever by calling "me" out.
>Kek dont pretend you were doing me a service. You thought that was me and you were trying to be clever by calling "me" out.
I never pretended otherwise dipshit, I was only stating that you can stuff your head in the sand all you want, but people are actively shitting up any discourse about the show with idpol trash that the creators of the show patently disagree with.
Doesn't help you throw around accusations of sexism (and you can pretend you don't, despite the fact you felt you needed to bring it up out of the blue, completely unprovoked (supposedly)). Just goes to show you share the same mindset as the loser from two days ago, which hardly matters since /m/ moves at a glacial pace.
>Doesn't help you throw around accusations of sexism (and you can pretend you don't
Anon, you said sexism not me. I know it was bait. Because you wanted to strawman people. You said,
>I'm sure the loser ITT will say it's because of sexism, but I think it's more because it was overused and didn't have much impact.
And I said,
>Nice strawman. You aren't sexist. You are just incapable of liking new things and feel a need to be a contrarian.
How is that ME bringing up sexism?
> I was only stating that you can stuff your head in the sand all you want, but people are actively shitting up any discourse about the show with idpol trash that the creators of the show patently disagree with.
Bullshit. Everyone can read what you said. My advice, ignore those types. They are clearly getting to you. Since this is Cinemaphile chances are they are just shitposting looking to piss off people like you anyways. Get over yourself and we can continue to talk about the show.
How do you build models with your fat ape hands?
Very carefully. God hands and glass files help.
And thw fight against elan and ofcourse also the earth witch fight.
>They really didn’t.
They did actually, and it's all about how their mobile suits are designed.
Suletta's is to close the distance between the opponent while using her rifle and bits to either shield her or keep the opponent occupied while she waits for an opening then rush in for a final blow or using herself to keep the opponent distracted and have the bits get the finish.
Guels charges in head first using his suit's massive shields to tank shots to get in close.
El4n uses the Peil machines speed to keep distance while using his rifle/bits to debilitate the opponent, only getting in close when they are basically already defeated.
Shaddiq uses his wired weapons to catch his opponents off guard and then rush in while they are staggered.
They feel like that for one second then go back to having negative accuracy and just dancing around the same standard way. They’re designed uniquely but hardly ever used as such. They have too similar a play style in practice
Guel is unironically the best pilot of the AU. He just has the weakest MS, even Darilblade is inferior to many MS.
lol
complaint about no strategy actually applies to Guel and Shaddick calls him out on it in their fight.
Shaddiq was the one who kept pushing like a moron during his fight with Guel, in the end the latter outsmarted him
We don't know who the best pilot is because the show didn't care about that.
I'd say so, he managed to dodge most of pharact's stun beams in a dilanza
>couldn't use the GUND format Anon
If she couldn't use the gund format she wouldn't be able to beam spam with bits again
Well Elan 5 with Norea had potential but that's as far as it goes. I couldn't even get attached to Norea or Sophie and I'm surprised anyone did. Sophie was barely in the show. I swear people only got attached to them through secondary creations.
Your other ships are kinda garbage though. Though I guess Norea and Sophie would be a bettter Yuri couple than the main one.
I remember not even caring about Norea/Sophie until Norea's basement breakdown. The acting kind of sold it for me, even if it was ridiculously rushed.
I see you lack media literacy.
>media literacy
Cmon now lmao
You have none so it's fine that I call it out.
Kino
Go back to your board you globohomosexual dyke lover loser
They never got married or anything of the sort.
Why did Bandai make the Four counterpart a boy in an yuri Gundam show, yuri fans would be less frustrated if they made Elan a girl.
Because I guess Okouichi felt like he was being clever when he thought "what if I Mae the Cinderella Four plotline... but genderswapped?"
No, WFM is trash frick off back to twitter.
This couple was so good, Fukada had to rewrite Seed just to stop it.
Is that Azrael
nah this show sucked
also, I LOVE how Bandai scaled back the gay wedding and it drove people crazy
get rekted mf
damn
why is there no MODEL KIT of the Lfrith Pre Production. the only MS i like in this shit anime
The next Gundam AU can't come soon enough
The best Gundam AU is returning next year. Gb***h will be a forgotten memory the moment leaks start coming.
CAUSE I'M NOT LOOKIN' FOR A LOVE AFFAIR
I NEED THE MAGIC WHEN I HOLD YOU NEAR
Unseen Trap is tragic
Was it ever explained why Ericht is able to bear the weight of the Data Storm outside of ‘she just can’
When Bel confronts Prospera about Eri she explains her biometric code synced with Aerial perfectly. That's as good of an explanation as we ever get.
Doesn't the show directly says she's a pretty meh pilot without gundam suits? As even before being rigged, she doesn't really excel much with the demi trainer.
yeah
>She says before being beaten.
Her point is that she's a normal pilot without the GUND format, which isn't contradicted by being beaten when Suletta gets the GUND format back
They fought her 6v1 and lost Anon. If she was normal then they would have knocked her out of the match right then and there. But they didn't. Even if she had to get it back to win, she still didn't lose when depowered. 6 normal pilots versus 1 normal pilot would be an instant victory.
The point of the show is that nothing really compares to a Gundam. Its not a fair fight, never was. Kenanji, an ace, only beats one in the prologue because he had antidote. They are terrifying, cursed super weapons. Its why Delling had them banned and everyone murdered. Suletta's story was never about beating a bunch of who's at school. That was a means to an end.
Besides, the show make's its stance pretty clear with every duel.
>"Victory is never decided by mobile suit performance alone.
>Nor by the skill of the pilot, alone.
>The result itself is only the truth!"
They made a reference to Char and Amuro with the scene of Suletta and El4n floating in space.
This is the superior /m/ yuri couple.
didn't one character literally raped the other?
Yeah but it was for her own good
Yes, thats what yuri is before purity waifugay taking over.
Hi, OP. You'll never stop being a homosexual.
What Mecha show even actually has a focus on the character relationship between MC and FeMC?
No. Not really. Also kinda boring.
What's that from? Looks cool
There's quite a few
No one had a problem with Haman doing her bullshit after all. But she did it when she was the final boss.
There’s one thing that always bothered me about Aerial: the lore behind its creation.
Every time I try and piece together the timeline from what information we have, three questions come to mind.
1. How did Prospera gather the materials for Lfrith’s transformation in Aerial? Did she frick for money?
2. How was she able to create twelve clones of Eri despite that alone being a possibly prosecutorial offense? Did she blackmail Mercury’s leader or something?
3. How in god’s name did no one on Mercury not figure out that Lfrith was a Gundam? Delling’s speech and formation of Cathedra was fairly recent at the time, so somebody must have put two and two together. Or is everybody on Mercury just that fricking stupid?
I know Okouchi was lazy, but this is downright moronic to the max.
1. She just does
2. She just does
3. Part of me thinks that because Mercury is such a backwater shithole utterly detached from the rest of the world not none of them got the memo or they didn’t even know what a Gundam was. But that’s just speculation so I’ll just They Just Didn’t
When you think about it.
We never got flashback about Prospera aren't we? Other than prologue that is.
Like, i guess Okuochi want the story to have same structure as Tempest, but a flashback of Mercury ironically would helped a lot.
There’s a very brief scene in episode 18 (I think) that shows Eri dying and her biometric whatever transferring to Aerial but that lasts maybe 10 seconds and it’s just a hanger bay
Yeah, you’d think Mercury would play a central role in the Witch from Mercury. Anyone know why that happened?
There's nothing special about the place, it's just a mining colony. The entire point was that it was a quiet hiding place for the fugitive mother and child to stay while they finished work on the incomplete Lfrith. Them being "from Mercury" isn't what makes them different or special, it was them being "witches". The only reason the "from Mercury" part even gets tacked onto nicknames like that is because they're mysterious and nobody knew anything about them other than where they claimed to come from
1. Aerial is still busted 4 years after the Vanadis incident when Eri dies so she probably slowly fixed it as she worked her way up Shin Sei's corporate ladder.
2. Resource wise? No fricking clue lol, but no ones bats an eye at the idea of Suletta being a repli-child so we can assume that it's something that does happen but is probably looked down upon.
3. They probably did because of how much they disliked Suletta and Prospera but its unclear. It was only when Suletta became a rescue pilot and Prospera their boss that some of them began to tolerate the Mercury family.
>I know Okouchi was lazy
One of many ways to describe the writing of this show.
The greatest romance in recent seasons but there were no youtubers or twitter meme accounts talking about it so /m/ didn't notice.
That’s true. They were cute.
Kira and Lacus are the best couple and the only one that matters.
Guel deserved to be in a better anime.
He deserved more development, like most characters in the show. S2 treated him pretty hard. Looks like he was going in a good direction at the end of S1 but I feel like S2 was a bit of character assassination.
>I feel like S2 was a bit of character assassination.
He had so much potential after episode 15 yet after his alliance with Miorine he was just...there. He also seemed to be interested in the whole Earthian situation but that went nowhere.
Personally I'm hoping for some guel side story, probably the only good thing Gwitch will produce going forward besides Vanadis Heart
Even the main characters needed fricking development. Suletta took way too long to develop for a 25 episode show.
The writers decided to make an unholy fusion of Puru and Rosamia and decided it would be a good idea to make that character the protagonist, in doing so providing an excellent case for why the oblivious brainwashed cyber newtype character should never take that role.
In their defense, it's work people were eating it mindlessly.
After all "Cute is Justice".
Sometimes i wonder if the final Guel VS Suletta duel was supposed to ended with total Suletta lose and ended up with her/Aerial went berserk.
we deserved SOL earth witches
No way I hated those shits
>Hehe onee chan, I'll kill you/your friends/etc
Terrible character archetype, it was cringe with Nena in 00, and it's cringe with Sophie
And yet its somehow worse here since they literally spout their backstory seconds before dying
It’s not just that, in 00 especially they made it clear that you weren’t really supposed to feel bad for the Trinitys or excuse them. The main Meister team hold them accountable despite them being “on the same side” and being similar in wanting to change the world with the Gundams. In G-witch however, you’re meant to sympathize with them and even believe one of the main characters falls in love with one just because they had a similar experience, completely ignoring that they’re ready to murder at a moments notice and won’t reconsider for anything. A lot of shows do this now. If two characters have a similar experience, they must get along even if their stance on things are entirely at odds. It makes for cheap relationships and characters. Nena worked because she wasn’t instantly forgiven and got what she deserved, Sophie and Norea don’t because they’re trying too hard to be likable despite being horrible people and doing nothing to change that.
El5n/Norea could have worked, the appeal is that they don't get along, but do share the same stance of not wanting to die in a gundam.
The problem was the writers deciding that sticking them in a basement for half the cour was the perfect way to develop it. (It wasn't)
That part was bad, I liked them more for actually challenging Suletta’s ideals on gundams. Which barely gets delivered on unfortunately.
Making it take 17 episodes for the main character to go through their "mobile suits kill people?" Phase was a mistake
They should have pushed this and the psycho splat stuff more.
But that would mean Suletta wouldn't be perfect anymore
That's the reason the writers decided that Sophie should kill herself instead of Aerial/Suletta killing her, even though the distinction between those two outcomes is negligible
Suletta even blames herself for Sophie dying later when she talks to Mio. Makes zero sense why they didn’t just let Suletta do it herself.
Because Suletta follows Kira Yamato rules where everything she beats herself up about or is framed as being in the wrong has at least 2 layers of being ultimately justified and have her hands clean by the end of it. Even when she is "wrong" she must eventually be proven right.
I dont think those murdering psychos are capable of SOL.
>well-executed
I wish. It's good, but god damn could it have been handled better.
S1 was so kino.
have a nice day tourist.
Stay mad homosexual.
S1 was good, but it being kino depended on S2 properly following through. It did not.
I felt bad for the tanuki in this scene, but it was probably the only actual character development she got in the whole show
Suletta's character development is a narrative abortion
It's funny, I like Suletta because she's cute and her simplicity is endearing, she makes a good SOL character. But in every other capacity, you can barely call her a character at all, more like a caricature.
>I felt bad for the tanuki in this scene
S2 has a lot of good scenes, but none of them have any time to breathe or enough lasting consequences after them. Suletta gets abandoned by everyone she cares about, maybe half an episode latter and boop, she's fine, despair ain't shit.
>but it was probably the only actual character development she got in the whole show
I guess her arc is that she stops being her mom's puppet? That could have been good, but again, didn't work out. Hell, even the way I phrase that is more a case of what I wanted to happen than what actually did.
Dunno there's never any follow up to the scenes that are supposed to develop her
>Suletta realizes Prospera, Eri and Miorine abandoned her for her sake
>Next episode she's depressed browsing twitter on class
>Sort of befriends Petra
>Sees her getting crushed by debris
>Doesn't mention her again
>Sees Nika almost getting murdered
>Nika disappears
>Suletta doesn't mention her again
Exactly what I'm saying.
That's the most frustrating part of G-Witch. So many of these plot elements work great conceptually, but then are handled just terribly.
Nah just admit you want to like it because you find the grotesque character designs cute.
I don't need to want to like it, I already do.
>Grotesque
But they're one of the only good parts? If you want to lay into the show talk about the writing.
>So many of these plot elements work great conceptually, but then are handled just terribly.
Wait, Gwitch was AGE 2 all along?
AGE should have had gay shit to be popular? it was all it took?
There are those scenes, you are just ignoring them.
She was clearly internally processing it but we didn't get an internal monologue to hear her thought process. It would have been nice to have one. But knowing Okouchi it would have been at a million miles an hour and everyone would then complain that the show tells you everything and needs to be more subtle.
Given the choice of the two extremes, I think what we got was preferable because you can see she is lost and directionless but then get clues about a way forward over the next few episodes. She then lays out her conclusions to Miorine.
but she monologued before that too
Internal monologue Anon. I think the closest we ever got was Suletta talking to Aerial.
When she still monologued both to Earth House and Miorine you can't really say the show was any more subtle about it than an internal one. Even a fast paced internal monologue is more subtle than her fricking opening an episode telling someone she changed the halfway through we stop so she can explain exactly what she meant to band together her rag tag team. It's as subtle as a brick to the face. Internal monologue would have been miles better in terms of subtlety
Which is it Anon? Is it as subtle as a brick? Or like
says, we have no idea what she was thinking? These are mutually exclusive.
Anon, you can catch someone’s attention without hitting them with a brick. And You’re entirely misunderstanding what that anon was saying. They’re saying that we never get to see her follow up on those situations which is entirely different since rather than being subtle, they’re just ignored outright. It’s not mutually exclusive cause as G-Witch shows multiple times, they have no problem going to the extreme on both sides where they both say too much about some things and then absolutely nothing at all about others.
Well I disagree about the show's lack of subtlety, at least by the standards of mecha shows. Its not eva levels of the characters sitting there and telling you exactly what the feel. And as for never bringing things back up. Well, some frankly didn't need to be. Could they have been? Sure but there were far more important things that didn't than what the other Anon mentioned that I would have rather had them give more time too.
The only reason it was more "subtle" than other mech shows was because it couldn't agree on a message it wanted to send without contradicting itself in a way most mech shows avoid by having clarity. I think youre misconstruing clarity as exposition when most shows, at least the ones I've watched, let the viewer infer things while also being able to follow up on the "less" important stuff since they dont have to spend so much time making the obvious known to the viewer.
S2 squandered all the kino buildup that S1 had.
A lot of it but there was good scenes at the end. Didn't totally make up for it. Calibarn got about 1 episode total of time in the sun.
Nope. Ryosuke Takahashi's romance are where it's at for good /m/ romance.
No
This is
I am telling you Skyfire/Starscream is the way better pairing.
>G-Witch
>Subtle
>When Secelia literally says "you've changed, Suletta"
Anon, when picrel is the standard for "art" in the genre, then gwitch doesn't have a subtlety problem. Its problem is they tried to make a 50 episode show work in 25. Shit got rushed and dropped to make it happen.
No
It didn't need an extra 25 episodes, it needed staff that knew what they were doing
Can I get a QRD on how/why the writers retconned the wedding and how that led to terrorist threats at Bandai HQ? Sounds hilarious
What wedding?
Miorine and Suletta's
There is no Suletta Miorine wedding. The only wedding in Gwitch was that still frame in Prologue of a based cripplefricker (straight)
Funny how they emphatized disabilities in the prologue yet suletta is magically recovering in the epilogue. Dunno maybe it would have made more sense for Suletta to use a GUND prosthetic instead of a tertiary character like Petra.
Lauda is still in love with his brother, he fricks Petra only out of pity.
Why can't homosexuals have personal relationships without reducing it to sexuality?
It's canon tho, there's no straight couples in Asticassia in this show.
Reading comprehension
When?
The writers didn't. Bandai made a press release saying they wanted the ending to be open to interpretation by the fans and it caused an uproar. They didn't actually retcon anything on screen.
That's hilarious, and probably the best possible outcome.
I could list the things I enjoyed about it on one hand, but yeah the rest was pretty bland at best
>Guel
>Felsi
>Suletta
>The OP themes
>The ED themes
I really don't see a reason to defend this show other than agenda purposes and personally being pandered to through one or two of the characters, it wasn't fun, it wasn't cool, it wasn't even original, the style was ugly and they tried to cover it up with a ton of post processing that made the whole thing look like vomit with the constant 2D to CG back and forth.
Kill tourists. Behead tourists. Roundhouse kick a tourist into the concrete.
The worst part about Sulemio is its enabling of abuse. Miorine treated Suletta like shit, tossed her away because she ‘loved her’ despite having a good reason, and practically screwed herself by siding with Prospera’s idiotic plan.
When she moped over the deaths on Earth, I cheered. And honestly, she never deserved Suletta. Suletta’s a moron, but her marriage to Miorine is akin to suicide.
Frick Sulemio and the fans supporting it.
Also, I hate women.
Its the same reason why people like Tsundere.
Its abusive behaviour that presented as cute due to omnipresent PoV.
Also that shit you found to be abusive would drowned in the sea of art describing their relation to be cute and wholesome due to meme.
It also makes little sense why any Earth house member still likes her after she pretty much forced them to work with her, would have tried to force them to make weapons if she could get away with it, and then gave them the duty of emotionally supporting Suletta because she can't clean up her own mess. But all that gets disregarded and the only time she's displayed as the piece of shit she actually is is when she had her badly written lelouche-esque accidental massacre
I don't know how we're supposed to believe that Miorine is friends with Earth house when she barely interacts with them and objectively speaking she has always acted like an entitled brat towards them (see Miorine pulling the reverse racism card against Chuchu)
The fact that the episode 2 started with Prospera unironically using the absence of evidence as an argument, I lost all faith In the quality any rhetoric in this show
>I accuse you of being a witch
>with what evidence
>I have none, but you are still a witch
Yes, it is.
What romance
I recall a lot of discourse and a lot of confidence from people that the anime will end tragically with Suletta dead, as it is tradition with various Gundam series to go darker, more violent and depressing towards the end, ignoring the fact that WfM has been the most all-ages mainline iteration of Gundam since the pile of nothing that was AGE.
I feel like those who thought that was going to be the case must be feeling as stupid as when idiots thought Olga was going to be this year's anniversary servant.
What a bizarre comparison. Also frick you.
I'm glad she survived. It'd be a real downer to have her get shit on so much and then just die.
>her get shit on so much and then just die.
That was the case for years as it was the original plan.
Citation needed.
...also I'm talking about Sulleta, not Olga. I just realized this could apply to either of them.
For Olga, i'd say it's a safe bet since the time between her appearances was like 7 years.
Suletta barely got shat on compared to Nika, the Elans or Guel
If you ask me, I didn't want her to die. I just wanted her to be more cutthroat badass fighter. But that required more than 25 episodes and the production team to have taken the setting they established more seriously, neither of which happened.
Does Miorine ever act this way during the show?
The epilogue.
When?
Hi, show of hands!
Which characters would you cut out entirely?
You could ablate every earth house member besides Chuchu, Shaddiq's gang, the peil CEOs and nothing changes
Earth house is at least important to Suletta's development, can't cut them.
One day, /m/
One day you will learn not to fall for obvious bait like this thread.
I knew it was bait, but I replied so I could talk about G Witch
That's a feel I know well.
I WOULD do it on Cinemaphile, but I took a look at the first 5 posts in the G Witch general, became disgusted, closed the tab and never looked back.
For all the shitposting ITT, it still pales in comparison to that shithole
What thin skin you have. You're still half-right, though; it's a shitshow either way.
That's not Garrod and Tiffa, the actual best /m/ otp.