You have no idea what you're talking about, the anime covers less than a chapter per episode and is filled with filler, recaps and drawn out panning shots to make it to that 20 min runtime
nope. they changed it recently and they keep putting out recaps so the eps can actually have good pacing and animation for once. act 3 of wano has basically been good animation the entire time.
Just from the little bit we’ve seen, it’s shot like a fan film. The camera work and cinematography is atrocious. How does that happen? Negligence? Budget? Amateur directors?
This started when Netflix had all the money in the world, then got into production right when they were cutting shows and slashing budgets. Not that this was ever going to be good, but it's being made at one of the worst times for Netflix. 5 years ago it would've at least been at Dragon Ball Evolution levels of visuals, now we get one run above the Sonic fan film.
>Oda has no power over Netflix
You say that but he's gone on record saying that he's butting heads with Netflix for not giving up on things that make One Piece One Piece.
>he's gone in record saying he's butting heads
Okay so he has to fight to get things right. He's not the producer nor the director, and he will lose most of those fights.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>He's not the producer
He is.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yet he doesnt have any power over them
11 months ago
Anonymous
Producer is a meaningless credit. 100% they put his name on there despite him only sending a couple of thoughts via email because it would give credibility to the show. He obviously said 'yes' because they probably upped how much he got paid for the ability to slap his approval on it.
It's so transparent, and I don't get how anyone could actually believe Oda's hitting deadlines on a mostly weekly series but still finds time to fly halfway around the world to be on the set and actively involved with or 'producing' this shit show.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He was taking a month break for a trip to filming set.
The first episodes are shit, specially with that terrible 90s animation, and Luffy is a shit main character so the trailer actually fits to the first episodes.
One Piece flopped in the US because of a perfect storm of fail (4Kids was forced to take/dub/air the show in exchange for getting the rights to Shaman Kings, which they wanted not One Piece). 4Kids BUTCHERED the show beyond belief because it aired on network tv on Saturday mornings and if not for Viz releasing the manga uncut and unmolested, it would have vanished into the ether except to be pointed at as how not to dub an anime.
While Funimation would partially salvage shit with them acquiring the dub the second 4Kids let the rights laps, the damage was done and One Piece NEVER recovered as far as Naruto and Bleach becoming super popular with normies while One Piece was relegated to that anime/manga only die hard nerds care about. The maker of One Piece NEVER fricking accepted it so when Netflix came a calling wanting the US live action rights, he basically took their money seeing the live action show as his last best chance of making One Piece be super popular in the US.
>4Kids BUTCHERED the show beyond belief
I don't know any imported media more butchered than anime tbh, anime has suffered a lot from protectionism that US and various european countries did, when they imported anime, they were basically stripped from any cultural identity that was specifically japanese.
First you had changes that could have made sense like a localized title, then they removed the original songs in japanese to a localized version, still understable, then they proceeded changing every character name, since stuff like "Kaori" was too hard to remember for the ears of the western and called them with stuff like "Lucia", then dishes were localized, every presence of kanji removed. Then suffered a lot from the western stigma of cartoons=for kids, ecchi removed, violence toned way down, blood colors inverted, mentions of death, some romances changed, entire plot points and dialogues removed or changed, it wasn't uncommon that a 50 episode series in the localized version was 45 episodes due to all the cuts.
It's like they didn't want anime, and you can still see it to this day with a lot of japanese proprieties that go through a "dejapanesization" and gets "westernized", always treated as second rate,
why was Tom Cruise the only one that pulled off the live action adaptation
even edge of tomorrow had similiar changes.
Tv helped popularize some anime, but the success of the anime in the west I think it can be attributed mainly to fansubs and fans pirating it, anime wouldn't have become huge otherwise, then streaming services etc... there are anime that every weeb knows that were never imported on tv or localized.
The major thing holding One Piece back (if you can even say it is held back considering decades of success) is how long the series is. New viewers see 1,000 episodes and go sour grapes on it. The best thing for One Piece right now, especially going into the 'final' arc, would be a One Piece Kai. Just take the original series, edit it down to remove filler and get 1,000 episodes down to 500. Release each arc as a single batch every 3 months, run with it until it's up-to-date. The money print itself with all the new fans, rewatches from older fans, and general improved watchability from a casual stand point. Plus it'd be a pretty cheap deal considering 95% of it would be reused footage. Slap on the dub and you'd have every casual this side of Japan on board.
But nah~ Let's dump millions of dollars into a live action series, stripped down adaptation that will bomb day 1.
yeah, and it's really popular, even with obvious fan editing. It's surreal that it's such a simple slam dunk and yet Netflix decided to set millions of dollars on fire for an obviously flop. It's like they went out of their way to make the worst decisions.
The problem really only presented itself around Thriller Bark when Toei began stretching out episodes to adapt about 1 chapter per episode pacing. Most of early One Piece has pretty decent pacing.
anon an episode of the One piece (anime) costs 100k to produce to toei.
Instead an episode of the live action costs 18 million.
One piece anime has 1050 episodes, making the whole expense of it a bit more than 100 million (well prices per episode, inflation, wages are variable in such a long period of time, but you get the point, let's say 200m to be safe) for the whole fricking anime until now.
Instead the netflix show for 8 episodes has a 144 million budget extimated. Enough to finance another 1000 episodes of the anime of one piece.
I don't get how budgets can be so fricked for producing trash, I really hope it's money laundering
yeah, it's even crazier when factoring in that a One Piece Kai would be 95% re-used footage. That 100k would drop like a rock. Hell, 100k would cover a Kai version through East Blue easy. Like
>Just take the original series, edit it down to remove filler and get 1,000 episodes down to 500
isn't there a website doing exactly that for free?
said, there are fans doing it for free.
There must have been some kind of contract issue where Netflix had to make their own version and couldn't touch the anime, or something. There's no reason they'd be dumb enough to blow so much money on a live action series when they could instead farm what they already have and not piss off fans or turn away new fans with this shit. Frickin Netflix
Why are they all so fricking ugly? There's pretty people of all these ethnicities, why do they have to be played by these ugly motherfrickers?
Sanji legit looks mentally moronic with those prominent front teeth, Zoro is so short and thin, couldn't they get a jomon guy? Nami has fat arms and no breasts, Luffy looks like the fricking Chavo del Ocho, did they just pick him up from a fricking favela?
Manga is considered the best, but the anime is still very solid through first 300 or so episodes. Basically, I didn't notice a slow down in the adaptation or filler in episodes until Thrill Bark (when they get Brooke), and by that point you're in deep enough to be able to decide for yourself if you'd rather swap to the manga. It's really personal preference up until then, and at that point, the anime still didn't really turn me off until after the timeskip around episode ~520 or so.
Because it was a relatively easy adaptation, All You Need Is Kill is a pretty Hollywood-friendly story in both plot and aesthetics, the more fantastical something japanese gets, the more likely Hollywood will frick it up.
Then again, this should have meant Death Note should have been an easy adaptation, nothing too out there besides the shinigami, but even when given everything to succeed, 9 times out of 10 gringos will find a way to frick it up.
>he more fantastical something japanese gets, the more likely Hollywood will frick it up.
I agree. It's annoying that western studios keep going for high concept shit that can never work in live action, when there's plenty of shows that can be done with little to know craziness. Hell, even something like Gundam can work in live action, as it's mainly just normal people talking with CGI robots in between. But watch them still frick that up. Already heard they're doing the Amuro/Char story and it makes no sense. They have a whole massive war they could make new stories in that fit live action, but nah~ It's gonna be the anime we've already seen but done worse. It just doesn't make sense.
>RX-78 and Red Zaku
They may recognize them, but they don't know anything about them. And like
Among nerds maybe. Most normies have no idea what a gundam even is tbh. They think it's a transformer.
said, it's usually 'transformer' or 'megazord.'
It would be so easy to just make another 0080 or 08th MS Team, just some stand alone story still set in UC so you can have RX-78 variations and green Zaku, but not end up just making an inferior version of the original 1979 series. Gundam is ripe for side stories, and considering no one in the west knows who Amuro is, there's no recognition for easy views.
Going Amuro/Char does nothing but piss on fans, and it makes no sense why they'd go in that direction when you could easily make an original story and still use what iconography normies do recognize.
All You Need is Kill was a slam dunk. As long as they didn't frick up the visuals, it's interesting enough conceptually to run on its own. They didn't even adapt the main character the same way and it was still fine.
In this version, Luffy is 12 feet tall and his crew are small and sit on his shoulder. He uses them to fight like Pokemon. Weird take from Netflix, but at least it's not an inferior version of something we've already seen.
why is ronaldinho there
Dinho is playing Usopp thanks to based Oda demanding his favorite player be in the show
Looks more like a ram than a GOAT
is Usopp a Black person-woman?
frick I hate netflix but one piece is so fricking kino
>brown
>coward crying all the time
yes
Luffy is already 30 years old?
Why does Usopp's slingshot looks like it comes from Toys R us? Also why didn't they give him a prosthetic nose?
He looks like a Somali pirate, great casting
QUE PAZA ESE, LET'S GO GET THE ONE PIECE QUE NO
Why does the Merry look hideous and nightmarish instead of cute?
americans and their obsession with realism in movies
Realism in films is our escape from the unreality we're forced to exist with in real life.
let's talk about actual kino, what ending fight was the best from onigashima?
Zoro vs King. Also, why does the animation look good now?
toei realizing that good production leads to even more popularity
because the manga is pretty far ahead so they dont have to draw things out a bunch like they used to.
You have no idea what you're talking about, the anime covers less than a chapter per episode and is filled with filler, recaps and drawn out panning shots to make it to that 20 min runtime
nope. they changed it recently and they keep putting out recaps so the eps can actually have good pacing and animation for once. act 3 of wano has basically been good animation the entire time.
Wano is based on Japan, also One Piece is heading into final saga so they want to make sure the finale is really fricking good.
Law and Kidd vs Big Mom
Trafalgar teleporting around Big Meme was so fluid and kino. Whole episode was really well made.
Zoro vs King was too, idk how to say it, non-physical. They were just doing crazy dragonball shit and changing into commets and stuff.
Merry looks sinister for some reason. Opening it's mouth was probably a poor choice. It doesn't open it's mouth unless for really cartoonish purposes.
Just from the little bit we’ve seen, it’s shot like a fan film. The camera work and cinematography is atrocious. How does that happen? Negligence? Budget? Amateur directors?
a japanese director maybe
That ain't it.
This started when Netflix had all the money in the world, then got into production right when they were cutting shows and slashing budgets. Not that this was ever going to be good, but it's being made at one of the worst times for Netflix. 5 years ago it would've at least been at Dragon Ball Evolution levels of visuals, now we get one run above the Sonic fan film.
nami soles on my face
HAKWINS-SAMA!
sweaty nami soles on my face after a long day of pirate adventures
Will Netflix keep her happiness punch technique?
Oda will make sure of so.
No, it's Wokeflix
Oda has no power over Netflix and he'd be ashamed to suggest it so he'll keep quiet as they censor everything
>Oda has no power over Netflix
You say that but he's gone on record saying that he's butting heads with Netflix for not giving up on things that make One Piece One Piece.
>he's gone in record saying he's butting heads
Okay so he has to fight to get things right. He's not the producer nor the director, and he will lose most of those fights.
>He's not the producer
He is.
Yet he doesnt have any power over them
Producer is a meaningless credit. 100% they put his name on there despite him only sending a couple of thoughts via email because it would give credibility to the show. He obviously said 'yes' because they probably upped how much he got paid for the ability to slap his approval on it.
It's so transparent, and I don't get how anyone could actually believe Oda's hitting deadlines on a mostly weekly series but still finds time to fly halfway around the world to be on the set and actively involved with or 'producing' this shit show.
He was taking a month break for a trip to filming set.
SET SAIL FOR BROWN PIECE
THE BROWN PIECE IS REAL
Buggy is Captain of Cinemaphile!
why do his teeth look weird and fake
This is gonna be so cringe-inducing. One Piece is not meant to be adapted to live action.
>no big usopp nose
dropped, frick off
usopp is literally that hide you kids, hide yo wife guy
I honestly might try to watch it but the actor playing Luffy's accent is so bad I might not make it far
This looks so cringe. Totally looks like a pajeet ripoff
anime is for children live action anime is for man children which is even worse
The first episodes are shit, specially with that terrible 90s animation, and Luffy is a shit main character so the trailer actually fits to the first episodes.
>The first episodes are shit
Bait. They're great setup and you don't get scenes like this in current One Piece.
>get the rights to one of the most cartoony popular animes
>adapt it to live action
Why are they so stupid? Even a "realistic" anime like bebop failed, this will be nothing more than cringe town
One Piece flopped in the US because of a perfect storm of fail (4Kids was forced to take/dub/air the show in exchange for getting the rights to Shaman Kings, which they wanted not One Piece). 4Kids BUTCHERED the show beyond belief because it aired on network tv on Saturday mornings and if not for Viz releasing the manga uncut and unmolested, it would have vanished into the ether except to be pointed at as how not to dub an anime.
While Funimation would partially salvage shit with them acquiring the dub the second 4Kids let the rights laps, the damage was done and One Piece NEVER recovered as far as Naruto and Bleach becoming super popular with normies while One Piece was relegated to that anime/manga only die hard nerds care about. The maker of One Piece NEVER fricking accepted it so when Netflix came a calling wanting the US live action rights, he basically took their money seeing the live action show as his last best chance of making One Piece be super popular in the US.
>4Kids BUTCHERED the show beyond belief
I don't know any imported media more butchered than anime tbh, anime has suffered a lot from protectionism that US and various european countries did, when they imported anime, they were basically stripped from any cultural identity that was specifically japanese.
First you had changes that could have made sense like a localized title, then they removed the original songs in japanese to a localized version, still understable, then they proceeded changing every character name, since stuff like "Kaori" was too hard to remember for the ears of the western and called them with stuff like "Lucia", then dishes were localized, every presence of kanji removed. Then suffered a lot from the western stigma of cartoons=for kids, ecchi removed, violence toned way down, blood colors inverted, mentions of death, some romances changed, entire plot points and dialogues removed or changed, it wasn't uncommon that a 50 episode series in the localized version was 45 episodes due to all the cuts.
It's like they didn't want anime, and you can still see it to this day with a lot of japanese proprieties that go through a "dejapanesization" and gets "westernized", always treated as second rate,
even edge of tomorrow had similiar changes.
Tv helped popularize some anime, but the success of the anime in the west I think it can be attributed mainly to fansubs and fans pirating it, anime wouldn't have become huge otherwise, then streaming services etc... there are anime that every weeb knows that were never imported on tv or localized.
I'll never understand Netflix's approach.
The major thing holding One Piece back (if you can even say it is held back considering decades of success) is how long the series is. New viewers see 1,000 episodes and go sour grapes on it. The best thing for One Piece right now, especially going into the 'final' arc, would be a One Piece Kai. Just take the original series, edit it down to remove filler and get 1,000 episodes down to 500. Release each arc as a single batch every 3 months, run with it until it's up-to-date. The money print itself with all the new fans, rewatches from older fans, and general improved watchability from a casual stand point. Plus it'd be a pretty cheap deal considering 95% of it would be reused footage. Slap on the dub and you'd have every casual this side of Japan on board.
But nah~ Let's dump millions of dollars into a live action series, stripped down adaptation that will bomb day 1.
I just don't understand Netflix.
>Just take the original series, edit it down to remove filler and get 1,000 episodes down to 500
isn't there a website doing exactly that for free?
yeah, and it's really popular, even with obvious fan editing. It's surreal that it's such a simple slam dunk and yet Netflix decided to set millions of dollars on fire for an obviously flop. It's like they went out of their way to make the worst decisions.
The problem really only presented itself around Thriller Bark when Toei began stretching out episodes to adapt about 1 chapter per episode pacing. Most of early One Piece has pretty decent pacing.
anon an episode of the One piece (anime) costs 100k to produce to toei.
Instead an episode of the live action costs 18 million.
One piece anime has 1050 episodes, making the whole expense of it a bit more than 100 million (well prices per episode, inflation, wages are variable in such a long period of time, but you get the point, let's say 200m to be safe) for the whole fricking anime until now.
Instead the netflix show for 8 episodes has a 144 million budget extimated. Enough to finance another 1000 episodes of the anime of one piece.
I don't get how budgets can be so fricked for producing trash, I really hope it's money laundering
yeah, it's even crazier when factoring in that a One Piece Kai would be 95% re-used footage. That 100k would drop like a rock. Hell, 100k would cover a Kai version through East Blue easy. Like
said, there are fans doing it for free.
There must have been some kind of contract issue where Netflix had to make their own version and couldn't touch the anime, or something. There's no reason they'd be dumb enough to blow so much money on a live action series when they could instead farm what they already have and not piss off fans or turn away new fans with this shit. Frickin Netflix
nami should've been significantly more attractive than this bawd they chose
it should've been hunter. every attractive woman in every modern show and movie should be hunter.
Why are they all so fricking ugly? There's pretty people of all these ethnicities, why do they have to be played by these ugly motherfrickers?
Sanji legit looks mentally moronic with those prominent front teeth, Zoro is so short and thin, couldn't they get a jomon guy? Nami has fat arms and no breasts, Luffy looks like the fricking Chavo del Ocho, did they just pick him up from a fricking favela?
>couldn't they get a jomon guy?
Stop being racist, distinction between Jomon and Yayoi is a vehicle of division to undermine the Nihonjin ethnostate.
>Nami has fat arms and no breasts
thats your typical american female these days. its why everything is so focused on ass.
>Usopp doesn't have a comically huge nose
Dropped.
Imagine fricking someone in a half-zoan state
I've never watched One Piece. should I start with the manga, anime or Tv show?
Manga is considered the best, but the anime is still very solid through first 300 or so episodes. Basically, I didn't notice a slow down in the adaptation or filler in episodes until Thrill Bark (when they get Brooke), and by that point you're in deep enough to be able to decide for yourself if you'd rather swap to the manga. It's really personal preference up until then, and at that point, the anime still didn't really turn me off until after the timeskip around episode ~520 or so.
thanks anon. I think ill give the anime a go.
why was Tom Cruise the only one that pulled off the live action adaptation
Because it was a relatively easy adaptation, All You Need Is Kill is a pretty Hollywood-friendly story in both plot and aesthetics, the more fantastical something japanese gets, the more likely Hollywood will frick it up.
Then again, this should have meant Death Note should have been an easy adaptation, nothing too out there besides the shinigami, but even when given everything to succeed, 9 times out of 10 gringos will find a way to frick it up.
>he more fantastical something japanese gets, the more likely Hollywood will frick it up.
I agree. It's annoying that western studios keep going for high concept shit that can never work in live action, when there's plenty of shows that can be done with little to know craziness. Hell, even something like Gundam can work in live action, as it's mainly just normal people talking with CGI robots in between. But watch them still frick that up. Already heard they're doing the Amuro/Char story and it makes no sense. They have a whole massive war they could make new stories in that fit live action, but nah~ It's gonna be the anime we've already seen but done worse. It just doesn't make sense.
Precisely, some stuff is best just left in animation.
That's because most normies only know of RX-78 and Red Zaku with the next most popular ones being the Nu-Gundam and the Sazabi.
Among nerds maybe. Most normies have no idea what a gundam even is tbh. They think it's a transformer.
>RX-78 and Red Zaku
They may recognize them, but they don't know anything about them. And like
said, it's usually 'transformer' or 'megazord.'
It would be so easy to just make another 0080 or 08th MS Team, just some stand alone story still set in UC so you can have RX-78 variations and green Zaku, but not end up just making an inferior version of the original 1979 series. Gundam is ripe for side stories, and considering no one in the west knows who Amuro is, there's no recognition for easy views.
Going Amuro/Char does nothing but piss on fans, and it makes no sense why they'd go in that direction when you could easily make an original story and still use what iconography normies do recognize.
>Hollywood Gundam
>Amuro drives a white Camaro that turns into the RX-78
All You Need is Kill was a slam dunk. As long as they didn't frick up the visuals, it's interesting enough conceptually to run on its own. They didn't even adapt the main character the same way and it was still fine.
Who the frick consumes so much of this same shit?
netflix is one of the most well known money laundering operations to date
Where are the girls? Is that Once Piece but for gay men?
>he doesn't like short haired Nami
I want to have sex with those 3 non-black boys
We want the kdrama audience
Is this an ai thread for a fake thing? I have literally no clue what you Black folk are on about.
>>over 1000 episodes
will we get the same here?
20+ years of One Piece live action
So fricking disappointing. The entire cast is fricking ass. Fricking diversity hires bullshit.
>this will sell our movie
what the FRICK is netflix doing???
Netflix Nami being black would've been the one time it worked
Do you mean Robin? They could at least claim black robin was accurate
No I just want big boobies
I would absolutely accept a huge-titted black actress as Robin.
>They didn't make Nami black
I will now watch your One Piece show.
the one piece is a devil fruit that gives you every power
bravo oda
Law ate the One Piece?
why is luffy in front of everyone, but his hat is behind everyone?
Fanmade poster.
In this version, Luffy is 12 feet tall and his crew are small and sit on his shoulder. He uses them to fight like Pokemon. Weird take from Netflix, but at least it's not an inferior version of something we've already seen.