Krakoa Non-mutant laws?

Does the audience or even Marvel itself have an outline for non-mutant citizens on the island or is it like the interpretation of superhuman registration act where differents teams have different Visions on how it works and the country itself doesn't have a real outline on who and why not mutants can be citizens on the island in law?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    OP, clever as you're trying to be, their society is outright built on having three laws, and only three laws. Three laws with wording so broad and non-specific that it could be applied to in nearly any way they want to to allow them to punish anyone who breaks it with impunity or sidestep punishment entirely. And even then, said laws aren't applied equally across the board, considering specific positions like being head of X-Force made you exempt from the "Murder No Man" rule.

    Yes, it's lazy as frick. Yes, it's massively ripe for abuse. Yes, it's lead to the exact same situation as the superhero registration act where every writing team in the X-office has to make up their own interpretations of how Krakoa would give consideration for their few non-mutant citizens. And yes, trying to read them across the board means you're going to see inevitable contradictions. But no, the writers are not going to fix it or clarify anything. The X-office doesn't want to build a logically consistent mutant society. That's far too much fricking work when Marvel's inevitably going to just nuke the place. They want to keep Krakoa as a giant mutant playground where the social elites can wine and dine and backstab each other to their hearts content without the realities of the Marvel setting to drag them down from their fun.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly I was kind of expecting this but I think my experiences with fantasy settings like one piece warhammer fantasy Sigma and 40K made me kind of hope that they might have had some consistent ideas which has been going on for a while now but I guess nobody wants to really think how these will work. I wonder if people make it fanfiction about mutant orgy Island have actually thought about this stuff more than the actual X-Men office.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Trust me, everyone has put far more thought into this shit than the X-office would have. These people write comic books for a living. Nice as it would have been for Hickman to leave some kind of bible or even skeleton for what he wanted of Krakoa, he's not some kind of legal expert. He left a lot of plot holes open because he didn't give a shit about the details that didn't directly connect to his envisioned grand plot of mutants vs machine vs dominion.

        Like, consider this, something that's very important to establishing the X-men's political and economic power rests on: Do we know, in detail, how their drug trade is supposed to function, and how exactly it makes them as filthy rich as the comics imply it does?

        Cause I'll give you a tip, there's a certain office known as the FDA that didn't stop magically existing just because it was inconvenient to the story.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So if I take a piss on Krakoa, but it has a piss fetish, is that disrespectful?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anon you have mined this and the "Krakoa PR advisor" prompt for all it's fricking worth come up with a different question for once

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Anon you have mined this
      I never outlined this before once.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Goddamn why do you always lie when you get caught spamming, every fricking time

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not lying and I didn't get caught spamming you just saying that doesn't make it spamming.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            And that's just using the same image, you've made god knows how many with other images. Seriously nobody is gonna punish you for spamming but at least admit it instead of pretending like you don't even though it's really fricking obvious because you have a REALLY specific thing you want to talk about

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              lmao homie came through with the receipts

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Except most of those are just about the advisor thing with differences in exact topic none of them questioning the consistencies in the comic book themselves of not mutants on the island law .Also similar topics once apart is not spamming that's like saying every time somebody's story times it's spamming if they done it once before.

              lmao homie came through with the receipts

              No he just looked up the image and see some similar topics with each other not what it up similar to what I've discussed in here.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                cope

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That is not a rebut .That's just childish insults when your argument and flimsy evidence was disassembled.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Bro just admit it pretty sure both are you, same MD5 and everything, nobody is gonna punish you and you'll probably still get a few people who lack pattern recognition. Your topics and the way you word them are very specific and you don't even realize it. Hell even your response to being called out and how you say the thread is your first one, is the same every time

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I never denied all of those will be what I've denied is this is not repetitive to use the same image over and over again for different topics and just because it has a similar speech padded when you're asking a question does it mean it's the same question and it's especially not spamming when you're doing it months apart from each other it said that the same guy completed about a die person jokes with in the MCU multiple times a day. What I'm arguing is you called in Spanish when it is not and this thread is NOT anything yet to identical to any other ones you provided in that image . So stop distracted the real conversation by saying we done this before what we did not .

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >ranting when called out
                cope

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why would there be non-mutant citizens on the island in the first place? It's an explicit mutant haven. Non mutants aren't allowed through the gates

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It mostly comes down to situations like Broo, who is technically not homosexual Superior but is still a “mutant” of his species, and mutants who have non mutant romantic partners. I feel like the situation of mutants who have married non mutants is a big deal that should be explored more in the Krakoa era. Any anons who are more involved in the Krakoa era comics know if this has been addressed?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Broo, who is technically not homosexual Superior but is still a “mutant” of his species
        So would human mutants who aren't "Mutants" get a pass?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Warlock's a Phalanx, but a "mutant" by their standards and given a pass because of his and Cypher's value as a go-between with the living island. Broo is a mutant by his standards and their friend, so they gave him a pass. Northstar is married to a human, and since you can't have the X-men be homophobic, they overlook it except in snide comments from people like Magneto. Jubilee has an adopted baby, and since the other option would be to tell her to abandon a baby, they also just let it slide.

        Basically, the comics so far don't really care to delve into it beyond "Don't think about it too hard." It comes off as favoritism, but given that the Three Laws don't express any sentiment one way or the other, it's a lot easier to just deal with it on a case by case basis.

        >Broo, who is technically not homosexual Superior but is still a “mutant” of his species
        So would human mutants who aren't "Mutants" get a pass?

        No.

        Typhoid Mary's been a mutant for ages, she just doesn't get involved in the X-men's stories because she's too fixated on Daredevil to care a whit about the general mutant population. It's the equivalent of them trying to get Fisk a marriage green card.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's going to happen rather than realise it or not consider this one mutant man persecuted for being a mutant in his home country of theocracy. He has a loving legal wife she's not mutant they have 3 children at the moment none are old enough to have mutant Powers activated one or two is a mutant and 1 or 2 is not a mutant. His wife is pregnant with twins when they get to the island non-identical ones going to be a mutant ones not . He's got of brother or sister on the island who did orgy with another mutant that baby not a mutant . For this talk of Ethno State it's basically more like having a albino or gay state where you genetically make children you're not going to guarantee they have your condition but most functional people aren't going to care about that when they have their baby if they're also gay or albino.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Human spouses. That and two mutant parents don't necessarily guarantee they have a mutant baby together, and even then until their powers manifest said babies are basically normal humans in all but name.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'm behind on my Spider-Man books but in the last one he got over the death of his dead wife and revived his son. It's Kingpin talking about his dead wife or did he marry someone new and is this out of the blue him calling her a mutant with it not be mentioned it before or was it something mentioned or hinted at ?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Kingpins had an established on and off relationship with Typhoid Mary sincer Millers run in the 80s and shes been a mutant so wouldnt say this is new, he's currently a fugitive after the events of Devils Reign. Wilson obviously just married her in order to get that Krakoan amnesty

          Warlock's a Phalanx, but a "mutant" by their standards and given a pass because of his and Cypher's value as a go-between with the living island. Broo is a mutant by his standards and their friend, so they gave him a pass. Northstar is married to a human, and since you can't have the X-men be homophobic, they overlook it except in snide comments from people like Magneto. Jubilee has an adopted baby, and since the other option would be to tell her to abandon a baby, they also just let it slide.

          Basically, the comics so far don't really care to delve into it beyond "Don't think about it too hard." It comes off as favoritism, but given that the Three Laws don't express any sentiment one way or the other, it's a lot easier to just deal with it on a case by case basis.

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          No.

          [...]
          Typhoid Mary's been a mutant for ages, she just doesn't get involved in the X-men's stories because she's too fixated on Daredevil to care a whit about the general mutant population. It's the equivalent of them trying to get Fisk a marriage green card.

          Yes I know but that was just a response to asking why any human would be on Kraoka and Wilson Fisk is the latest example

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