KFP will never recover from the pants-on-head moronic idea to let China "help" write KFP3. They wrote themselves into a corner. Once your martial artist can fly with chi-Superman shit, you can't go back to the fun Jackie Chan stuff, so you may as well settle for straight-to-streaming kids' shows
>This again
KFP2 isn't shit, but it did contribute to the problem that KFP3 solidified, if we're honest. Less Furious Five impact, Po masters himself (thus mastering Kung Fu), the notion of weapon progress is brought up which is its own can of worms...
But it's still decent. 1 is paced better but I like 2 more because, up until the third act, it feels like it's building into something good for 3. Then it does the "pandas are still around!" bullshit.
this, 60 fps only works fricking video games because you're actually playing the fricking game so you need to react, you don't need to have to do shit in a movie it's a passive experience.
watched the 1st episode and my god the animation is fricking horrendous, so much so im not watching the rest
kung fu panda ended at 2 the rest never happened
It's fairly mediocre. It's nice to have Jack Black on the role again and I'm glad it wasn't just episodic swill like LoA, but Po's character regresses still and it just lacks the energy and excitement that the premise should have.
>episodic swill
Nothing wrong with that, especially if those episodes help develop the setting and/or the characters in manners that would be normally considered too long for the regular movies. With that said, his show really would've benefited from being a special or even another movie.
>long ago, in ancient China, the peawieners ruled over Gongmen City. They brought great joy and prosperity to the city for they had invented fireworks. But their son, Lord Shen, saw darker power in the fireworks. What had brought colour and joy could also bring darkness and destruction. Shen's troubled parents consulted a soothsayer. She foretold that if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white. The young lord set out to change his fate. But what he did next only sealed it. Shen returned to his parents full of pride. But in their faces, he saw only horror. He was banished from the city forever. But Shen swore revenge. Someday he would return and all of China would bow at his feet
>my father's throne. He used to let me play here beside him, promising someday, this throne would be mine (throws it away from the window)
>(soothsayer about his parents) they loved you. They loved you so much that having to send you away killed them
>young Shen was in line to rule over Gongmen City, but he wanted more
literally all the information the film gives us about the peawiener or his family. Did they really think that was enough to make us give a shit about him?
between kung fu Panda 2 and Astro Boy film, i can't decide which one is the most incompetent "CG film for children trying to tell a serious/dark story with mature subject matters while also trying to be comedic". Both are shoddily constructed, badly paced and the humor doesn't mesh well with the serious elements (nor does it work on its own)
gonna have to pick Panda 2 as the worst. Astro is incredibly bland, but he isn't annoying or idiotic like Po in Panda 2. Likewise, while the jokes aren't funny, they aren't quite as embarassingly unfunny like Panda 2' jokes. The pacing is also slightly better thanks to a longer runtime. So yeah, Panda 2 is the most incompetent film
gonna have to pick Panda 2 as the worst. Astro is incredibly bland, but he isn't annoying or idiotic like Po in Panda 2. Likewise, while the jokes aren't funny, they aren't quite as embarassingly unfunny like Panda 2' jokes. The pacing is also slightly better thanks to a longer runtime. So yeah, Panda 2 is the most incompetent film
>hey, they're waiting for me >of course, of course. You have a job to do... far from home, in a strange city, filled with strange people, and strange noodles, facing horrible danger from which you might never return! Don't go, Po! >i gotta go. I'm the Dragon Warrior. It's kind of my job to save kung fu. And if i don't... what am i? >you're my son (Po opens his mouth but says nothing) Right? >(Tigress off screen) Po, it's time >um... goodbye
i lose all sympathy for Po when he leaves to go on that dangerous mission without answering Ping's question. I don't care if he found out recently that Ping isn't his biological father as he thought. He is still his son. Ping raised him and loved him since he was a baby, so Po having doubts and not answering yes is very inmature from him
they should've made it so that he answers "yes" a bit half heartedly, not fully sure of himself, instead of making him leave without answering anything. You feel bad for Ping there. He might never see Po again and isn't sure if Po considers himself his son anymore after telling him he adopted him as a baby
they should've made it so that he answers "yes" a bit half heartedly, not fully sure of himself, instead of making him leave without answering anything. You feel bad for Ping there. He might never see Po again and isn't sure if Po considers himself his son anymore after telling him he adopted him as a baby
whose idiot had the idea to reveal all of the peawiener's backstory in the first 2 mins? Shouldn't they have saved that information for later? They don't even provide context. Who is the soothsayer telling the story to? The audience? Someone else?
first movie did it right, waiting until halfway mark to reveal Tai Lung's backstory when Tigress tells it to Po. You watch the 1st half wondering what did Tai Lung do to be locked in that prison and what's his connection with Shifu, and then they answer it naturally at halfway mark. Works better than some character we don't know yet revealing his past in the first 2 mins
the peawiener's backstory doesn't awake sympathy because there's never a scene showing him being innocent before becoming corrupted. 1 showed Tai Lung as a kid, but 2 doesn't do this. Every scene with peawiener shows him as an butthole
Why is that necessary? Not every villain needs to be sympathetic. Sometimes it's just fun to watch an evil butthole do evil butthole things. Are you hoping that Disney announces a Jafar spinoff or some shit?
He's sympathetic because he wants to change his destiny, but that's a big no no in the KFP universe.
>Rio, Winnie the Pooh, Arthur Christmas, Tintin
seriously, frick the academy for nominating a sequel made on autopilot like Panda 2 instead of any of those films, which i assure you had more passion put into them during production
they also nominated the Puss in Boots film, so Dreamworks already scored a nomination. Why give them two instead of being fair to other studios? Tangled wasn't nominated the previous year (and HTTYD was), so Winnie the Pooh should've gotten one
All of the movies that got nominated that year didn't deserve it except for Rango.
>"i'll only be defeated by what i assume it's a panda if i don't change my ambitions of using fireworks for destruction. Should i change my ways and settle for ruling this powerful city, being the next heir, or should i destroy a village of pandas and kill everyone? I'm choosing the latter"
not sympathetic. He wasn't even sure if "warrior of black and white" meant pandas. It was just a hunch
>He wasn't even sure if "warrior of black and white" meant pandas
The goat lady said it was a panda during Po's inner peace scene.
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she doesn't say that in opening narration
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Anonymous
Yea but she still said it.
>"your story may not have such a happy beginning, but..."
i call bullshit on both Ping and soothsayer using the exact same words when comforting Po
>What is a callback?
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Anonymous
i know what a callback is, dummy. Just saying it's unrealistic for them to start the sentence in the same way. Ping didn't even know about the genocide, so him calling Po's beginnings "not happy" is far fetched
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>dummy
Didn't realize we were cutting deep today, anon. Also I think getting abandoned by your parents is pretty sad.
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he isn't the tragic character you want him to be. They don't explore his character at all. He also disrespected his father when throwing his throne from the window to make room for the cannon
The peawiener didn’t need one, his backstory was he wanted his father’s throne, saw a prophecy from goat women, killed all pandas out of pure fear which you can see throughout the film in his encounters with po, and then got outcasted because he overreacted.
The real question is how he would’ve turned out if goat women didn’t say anything for him to be afraid but he’s probably just a dicktator so it’s for the best.
>How to Train Your Dragon, Toy Story 3, Despicable Me, Megamind, Tangled, Rango, Rio, Arthur Christmas, Puss in Boots, Tintin
Panda 2 was one of the worst CG films of an otherwise pretty decent time for mainstream works. It doesn't offer any of the entertainment value from those films
>Kung Fu Panda : 83 mins >Monsters vs Aliens : 85 mins >HTTYD : 89 mins >Megamind : 86 mins >Kung Fu Panda 2 : 81 mins
you can tell Panda 2 was a cash in looking at the runtime. Why is it shorter than other Dreamworks films from that time, including the first one?
>2 minutes shorter than the first movie
"SEE GUYS ITS BAD GUYS ITS A CASH GRAB GUYS LOOK THEY DIDN'T HAVE 46 MORE SECONDS OF PO BEING FAT AS A JOKE THIS TIME"
Go frick a cactus
that's irrelevant. Panda 2 needed a longer runtime than 81 mins in order for the story to work. It also needed a better script, but that's another matter
I thought it was pretty good but still, if 2 mins gets left on the cutting room floor, who's really counting? Those 81 minutes got the story across. I'd call 3 a cash grab before 2.
a lot got left in the cutting room : Shen being albino, his wolves' army being former royal guards of which Shen was the only member of peawiener family to befriend them and be nice to them (which is why they're loyal to him), the soothsayer being Shen's nanny as a kid, Shen's parents not paying much attention to him growing up, the backstories of those new masters (Crocodile, Ox and Rhyno), etc. These story elements were all scrapped in the final film. We'd be looking at a slightly better film if they left them in
Kung Fu Panda 2 is so obviously the work of a newbie director. Jennifer Yuh Nelson never directed a film before and she had no co-director to help her out. It really shows. Panda 2 is a sloppy sequel that never clicks or finds its footing. Nelson stumbles towards the finish line
>Rio, Winnie the Pooh, Arthur Christmas, Tintin
seriously, frick the academy for nominating a sequel made on autopilot like Panda 2 instead of any of those films, which i assure you had more passion put into them during production
they also nominated the Puss in Boots film, so Dreamworks already scored a nomination. Why give them two instead of being fair to other studios? Tangled wasn't nominated the previous year (and HTTYD was), so Winnie the Pooh should've gotten one
If you look at it objectively the only difference Tai Lung and Shen have as characters is that Tai Lung had a connection to Shifu, a character that was well established in the first movie. If you take that away Tai Lung isn't sympathetic and imo is pretty boring. He's just an obstacle for Shifu and Po to overcome. Shen isn't as sympathetic as Tai Lung but he at least had a character.
>Shen is albino >wolves follow Shen because he's the only one who befriended them
where the hell is that information in the film? This is only mentioned in articles before the premiere. It isn't canonical if it isn't stated in the film
why wasn't that backstory with the wolves in the film? As a result of that scrapped info, audience is left wondering what's the wolves' relationship with Shen or why are they loyal to him
Even without them, the concept could've been pulled off in a less ropey, somewhat even toyetic fashion. Hell, you could even compound select ideas from that show and Dragon Knight onto one single show (or better yet, a movie) and it would've been much better off.
Shen did nothing wrong
it's all the Goat's fault for telling him about the prophecy
If she never does it. Shen doesnt go and genocide the panda village, Poo lives a happy life and Shen doesnt get outcasted.
Tai Long does murder everyone in the Valley of Peace tho because Poo never becomes the Dragon Warrior
i still can't fricking get over that horrendous design
looks like some shitty indian animal 3d film character design
KFP will never recover from the pants-on-head moronic idea to let China "help" write KFP3. They wrote themselves into a corner. Once your martial artist can fly with chi-Superman shit, you can't go back to the fun Jackie Chan stuff, so you may as well settle for straight-to-streaming kids' shows
Damn shame, the first two movies were good shit.
>the first two movies were good shit
KFP2 is plain old shit
>This again
KFP2 isn't shit, but it did contribute to the problem that KFP3 solidified, if we're honest. Less Furious Five impact, Po masters himself (thus mastering Kung Fu), the notion of weapon progress is brought up which is its own can of worms...
But it's still decent. 1 is paced better but I like 2 more because, up until the third act, it feels like it's building into something good for 3. Then it does the "pandas are still around!" bullshit.
>>This again
You're aware that's somebody trying to (poorly) imitate sharkgay, right?
Sharkgay is a homosexual but KP2 sucked
KP1 was such a good movie
This show thankfully didn't have any Chi shit
It has magical god weapons instead
Why is it 15fps?
Because muh cinematic exerience
Only morons enjoy anything under 60fps
>Only morons enjoy anything under 60fps
60fps looks like shit on non-vidya things though
This is your brain on 24fps
>This is your brain on standard tv/movie framerates
Yes.
this, 60 fps only works fricking video games because you're actually playing the fricking game so you need to react, you don't need to have to do shit in a movie it's a passive experience.
is it really?
I want to see a whole show in 60fps.
Go watch Storm Hawks in 60fps. It's available on Youtube.
Oh cool thanks
damn I had been thinking a lot about storm hawks as of late, thanks for the mention
Haven't heard of that show in years
As expected, it looks awkward.
Not really
Really
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not really
watched the 1st episode and my god the animation is fricking horrendous, so much so im not watching the rest
kung fu panda ended at 2 the rest never happened
It's fairly mediocre. It's nice to have Jack Black on the role again and I'm glad it wasn't just episodic swill like LoA, but Po's character regresses still and it just lacks the energy and excitement that the premise should have.
>episodic swill
Nothing wrong with that, especially if those episodes help develop the setting and/or the characters in manners that would be normally considered too long for the regular movies. With that said, his show really would've benefited from being a special or even another movie.
LoA actually managed to give the Five and Shifu the spotlight once in a while which is more than the movies ever did.
She cute
What's that thing?
Some kinda English bear
How much Tigress was there?
0.02%
None unless you count her action figure
the second movie is garbage. AWFUL humor, pacing and structure
>long ago, in ancient China, the peawieners ruled over Gongmen City. They brought great joy and prosperity to the city for they had invented fireworks. But their son, Lord Shen, saw darker power in the fireworks. What had brought colour and joy could also bring darkness and destruction. Shen's troubled parents consulted a soothsayer. She foretold that if Shen continued down this dark path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white. The young lord set out to change his fate. But what he did next only sealed it. Shen returned to his parents full of pride. But in their faces, he saw only horror. He was banished from the city forever. But Shen swore revenge. Someday he would return and all of China would bow at his feet
>my father's throne. He used to let me play here beside him, promising someday, this throne would be mine (throws it away from the window)
>(soothsayer about his parents) they loved you. They loved you so much that having to send you away killed them
>young Shen was in line to rule over Gongmen City, but he wanted more
literally all the information the film gives us about the peawiener or his family. Did they really think that was enough to make us give a shit about him?
between kung fu Panda 2 and Astro Boy film, i can't decide which one is the most incompetent "CG film for children trying to tell a serious/dark story with mature subject matters while also trying to be comedic". Both are shoddily constructed, badly paced and the humor doesn't mesh well with the serious elements (nor does it work on its own)
gonna have to pick Panda 2 as the worst. Astro is incredibly bland, but he isn't annoying or idiotic like Po in Panda 2. Likewise, while the jokes aren't funny, they aren't quite as embarassingly unfunny like Panda 2' jokes. The pacing is also slightly better thanks to a longer runtime. So yeah, Panda 2 is the most incompetent film
Samegayging
yeah sharktalegay needs to stfu
>hey, they're waiting for me
>of course, of course. You have a job to do... far from home, in a strange city, filled with strange people, and strange noodles, facing horrible danger from which you might never return! Don't go, Po!
>i gotta go. I'm the Dragon Warrior. It's kind of my job to save kung fu. And if i don't... what am i?
>you're my son (Po opens his mouth but says nothing) Right?
>(Tigress off screen) Po, it's time
>um... goodbye
i lose all sympathy for Po when he leaves to go on that dangerous mission without answering Ping's question. I don't care if he found out recently that Ping isn't his biological father as he thought. He is still his son. Ping raised him and loved him since he was a baby, so Po having doubts and not answering yes is very inmature from him
>He is still his son
But he isn't
they should've made it so that he answers "yes" a bit half heartedly, not fully sure of himself, instead of making him leave without answering anything. You feel bad for Ping there. He might never see Po again and isn't sure if Po considers himself his son anymore after telling him he adopted him as a baby
This didn't happen in Dragon Knight
What if, we redesigned the bear woman?
No, she's already hot
That looks terrible.
>posting fursuits as example of coombait
whose idiot had the idea to reveal all of the peawiener's backstory in the first 2 mins? Shouldn't they have saved that information for later? They don't even provide context. Who is the soothsayer telling the story to? The audience? Someone else?
first movie did it right, waiting until halfway mark to reveal Tai Lung's backstory when Tigress tells it to Po. You watch the 1st half wondering what did Tai Lung do to be locked in that prison and what's his connection with Shifu, and then they answer it naturally at halfway mark. Works better than some character we don't know yet revealing his past in the first 2 mins
the peawiener's backstory doesn't awake sympathy because there's never a scene showing him being innocent before becoming corrupted. 1 showed Tai Lung as a kid, but 2 doesn't do this. Every scene with peawiener shows him as an butthole
Why is that necessary? Not every villain needs to be sympathetic. Sometimes it's just fun to watch an evil butthole do evil butthole things. Are you hoping that Disney announces a Jafar spinoff or some shit?
then don't try to paint him as a tragic villain if he isn't going to have any sympathetic qualities or a flashback showing him being innocent
He's sympathetic because he wants to change his destiny, but that's a big no no in the KFP universe.
All of the movies that got nominated that year didn't deserve it except for Rango.
>"i'll only be defeated by what i assume it's a panda if i don't change my ambitions of using fireworks for destruction. Should i change my ways and settle for ruling this powerful city, being the next heir, or should i destroy a village of pandas and kill everyone? I'm choosing the latter"
not sympathetic. He wasn't even sure if "warrior of black and white" meant pandas. It was just a hunch
>He wasn't even sure if "warrior of black and white" meant pandas
The goat lady said it was a panda during Po's inner peace scene.
she doesn't say that in opening narration
Yea but she still said it.
>What is a callback?
i know what a callback is, dummy. Just saying it's unrealistic for them to start the sentence in the same way. Ping didn't even know about the genocide, so him calling Po's beginnings "not happy" is far fetched
>dummy
Didn't realize we were cutting deep today, anon. Also I think getting abandoned by your parents is pretty sad.
he isn't the tragic character you want him to be. They don't explore his character at all. He also disrespected his father when throwing his throne from the window to make room for the cannon
Hm? I'm talking about Po.
The peawiener didn’t need one, his backstory was he wanted his father’s throne, saw a prophecy from goat women, killed all pandas out of pure fear which you can see throughout the film in his encounters with po, and then got outcasted because he overreacted.
The real question is how he would’ve turned out if goat women didn’t say anything for him to be afraid but he’s probably just a dicktator so it’s for the best.
>How to Train Your Dragon, Toy Story 3, Despicable Me, Megamind, Tangled, Rango, Rio, Arthur Christmas, Puss in Boots, Tintin
Panda 2 was one of the worst CG films of an otherwise pretty decent time for mainstream works. It doesn't offer any of the entertainment value from those films
even Cars 2, released in that 2010-2011 era, has more entertainment value imo. Not saying it's good, but i would pick it over Panda 2 in a heartbeat
>Kung Fu Panda : 83 mins
>Monsters vs Aliens : 85 mins
>HTTYD : 89 mins
>Megamind : 86 mins
>Kung Fu Panda 2 : 81 mins
you can tell Panda 2 was a cash in looking at the runtime. Why is it shorter than other Dreamworks films from that time, including the first one?
>2 minutes shorter than the first movie
"SEE GUYS ITS BAD GUYS ITS A CASH GRAB GUYS LOOK THEY DIDN'T HAVE 46 MORE SECONDS OF PO BEING FAT AS A JOKE THIS TIME"
Go frick a cactus
that's irrelevant. Panda 2 needed a longer runtime than 81 mins in order for the story to work. It also needed a better script, but that's another matter
I thought it was pretty good but still, if 2 mins gets left on the cutting room floor, who's really counting? Those 81 minutes got the story across. I'd call 3 a cash grab before 2.
a lot got left in the cutting room : Shen being albino, his wolves' army being former royal guards of which Shen was the only member of peawiener family to befriend them and be nice to them (which is why they're loyal to him), the soothsayer being Shen's nanny as a kid, Shen's parents not paying much attention to him growing up, the backstories of those new masters (Crocodile, Ox and Rhyno), etc. These story elements were all scrapped in the final film. We'd be looking at a slightly better film if they left them in
sounds like a lot of pointless shit. Tai Lung didn't have all this shit in his backstory, why does Shen?
more kfp2 arguing
They did a Poochie
Kung Fu Panda 2 is so obviously the work of a newbie director. Jennifer Yuh Nelson never directed a film before and she had no co-director to help her out. It really shows. Panda 2 is a sloppy sequel that never clicks or finds its footing. Nelson stumbles towards the finish line
I really do not like KFP3
i really do not like KFP2. It's my least favorite CG film to come out from a major studio (Pixar, Dreamworks, Disney, Illumination, Blue Sky, Sony)
Anyone else liked the weasels? I also liked the design of the stag.
For the rest it was a mediocre serie, not too bad but not memorable either I suppose.
>Rio, Winnie the Pooh, Arthur Christmas, Tintin
seriously, frick the academy for nominating a sequel made on autopilot like Panda 2 instead of any of those films, which i assure you had more passion put into them during production
they also nominated the Puss in Boots film, so Dreamworks already scored a nomination. Why give them two instead of being fair to other studios? Tangled wasn't nominated the previous year (and HTTYD was), so Winnie the Pooh should've gotten one
If you look at it objectively the only difference Tai Lung and Shen have as characters is that Tai Lung had a connection to Shifu, a character that was well established in the first movie. If you take that away Tai Lung isn't sympathetic and imo is pretty boring. He's just an obstacle for Shifu and Po to overcome. Shen isn't as sympathetic as Tai Lung but he at least had a character.
Did Panda end up with Tigress or not?
No, but I did.
>"your story may not have such a happy beginning, but..."
i call bullshit on both Ping and soothsayer using the exact same words when comforting Po
The artist for these is named kabukiaku on twitter btw. Look her up
Why the frick is Sharkhomosexual sperging even harder now?
He hasn't seen the Dragon Knight so he isn't going to try and stay on topic.
newbie here, is it really THE sharktalegay that won't stop talking about KFP2 here?
yea
A trade mark of his is that he never has proper punctuation at the end of is comments while bringing up extremely irrelevant info.
Ah
>Shen is albino
>wolves follow Shen because he's the only one who befriended them
where the hell is that information in the film? This is only mentioned in articles before the premiere. It isn't canonical if it isn't stated in the film
>soothsayer was Shen's nanny
>Shen's parents neglected him
where is all of this information in the final film? Someone screwed up
hmm
why wasn't that backstory with the wolves in the film? As a result of that scrapped info, audience is left wondering what's the wolves' relationship with Shen or why are they loyal to him
dont care what she looks like. paper bag over the head and just frick her up the ass. done and done
Sold I guess
It should have ended with 3, Dreamworks should have just let Po rest in peace
It did end with 3, the shows arent canon
well i thought it was
it was fricking great, watched the whole 11 episodes
Was Paws of Destiny bad compared to Legends of Awesomeness? I forgot that Dragon Knight is the 3rd series
I honestly think it's an overall improvement unless you like the Furious Five.
Even without them, the concept could've been pulled off in a less ropey, somewhat even toyetic fashion. Hell, you could even compound select ideas from that show and Dragon Knight onto one single show (or better yet, a movie) and it would've been much better off.
I thought it was equally meh.
Shen did nothing wrong
it's all the Goat's fault for telling him about the prophecy
If she never does it. Shen doesnt go and genocide the panda village, Poo lives a happy life and Shen doesnt get outcasted.
Tai Long does murder everyone in the Valley of Peace tho because Poo never becomes the Dragon Warrior
>Poo
you just described the entire franchise after the first movie.
she didn't tell him anything. He overheard her talking to his parents
tai lung is still the best.
Yes
Shen reminds me of Thrax from Osmosis Jones. They're great villain character designs wasted on mediocre/bad films. No wonder they have so much fanart
I want to screw the hell out of Veruca. Surprised LBW hasn't r34'd her yet. How much older than Po is she supposed to be?
her mouth and caveman eyebrows bother me
>(fake) Knight
>kung fu master
>thief
Po slowly but surely is forming his own rpg party, now he only needs a healer or a mage that is not evil.
What is Mr. Ping's role in the party?
an npc party member or something like that merchant character from dragon quest 4 but with food instead of weapons.
So is po speaking english with her? or is she speaking chinese with him?
They speak cartoonese.
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