>What are its downsides?
It's a highly experimental, unreliable piece of junk that depends too much on unproven science and ultimately can be nothing more than a crutch for lazy pilots.
It's voodoo bullshit that makes psycoframe look like a predictable well understood technology, also "will to force" is such an irrational physics defying concept that it doesn't consistently work if the user is incapable of channeling dumb anime bullshit logic while under its effect.
And lemme tell you, I just finished volume 1 of the LN. Kaname goes to some colorful extremes when explaining to Sosuke what sort of mental state would get the Lambda Driver to proc.
No the Lambda Drivers make WAY more sense than psychoframe and are definitely predictable.
All the lambda drives do is allow the user to exert physical force seemingly without interacting physically in space, but it’s implied they’re just some kind of advanced gravity control/manipulation device.
The shown feats of lambda drivers are simple exertions of physical force that can be explained that way.
Also the full name of it is the “false axis repulsive field generator system”. Which describes this.
Psychoframe on the other hand makes zero sense if you try to look at it as some kind of explainable sci-fi technology. When it’s introduced we’re told it’s just microscopic computer chips but it does shit like channeling soul energy and connecting peoples souls along with a range of physical phenomena ranging from simply pushing a rock to time travel.
And there’s also the inexplicable crystallization.
Both devices “turn human will into force” but one does that using a more theoretical and scientific concept.
yeah this is the difference between bullshitrions and an applied bullshit field
both are completely separated from anything resembling real life and might as well be "a wizard did it" with more science-sounding jargon
yeah this is the difference between bullshitrions and an applied bullshit field
both are completely separated from anything resembling real life and might as well be "a wizard did it" with more science-sounding jargon
>both are completely separated from anything resembling real life and might as well be "a wizard did it" with more science-sounding jargon
You can say that about all sci-fi, the point of these stories and ideas isn't to just be 1:1 with real life. It's to explore what-ifs sprouting from some theoretical ideas across various fields of science, many of which we aren't even certain are possible in reality. In the Lambda Driver's case its simply "what if you could 'violate' Newtonian physics/manipulate gravity?".
The way you dress up and present a fantastical idea like that is very important in sci-fi storytelling and what separates it from just being pure fantasy even if the end result could be described in the same way.
FMP does that well, the Lambda drivers are a simple and straightforward example of a theoretical technology that behaves predictably.
It's implementing the same technological leap/suspension of disbelief you would see in Black Mirror or an Asimov story to justify the existence of things like sentient AI, or digitizing consciousness, artificial gravity, or warp drives.
Psychoframes are literal magic because they aren't extrapolated from any scientific concept or have any rules or consistency to how they behave. They're far too ambiguous and ill-defined.
Shit writing.
You put characters in a situation that can't be logically resolved?
Fricking magic lambda driver will save the day!
Frick this stupid ass series, even gundam is more consistent with it's newhalf magic.
FMP is only good for porn and toys.
It's a tense and emotional fast paced action scene.
Having an extremely technical lore dump on the Lambda Driver here would be awkward and break the momentum.
Also Chidori's supposed to come off as a genki hot-headed teenage girl in contrast to Sagara's awkward and literal personality, she's describing how it's used in a way that fits her character's behavior here.
The underlying way the Lambda Driver works is still based in some kind of understandable and predictable concept that lines up with what she's saying despite how she's conveying it.
It's not like this is the first time a character in sci-fi has described fictional technology in an emotional way.
Gym Ghingham, Lowe Guele, Noa, Nohman, Mikazuki, Heero and many others do the same thing.
if you operate on the ideas explained in the gateway process then the psychoframe makes sense >https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9qag/how-to-escape-the-confines-of-time-and-space-according-to-the-cia >https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
>matter is a result of energy fields >your mind also has an energy field >you can use your own mind's energy field to control and communicate with other energy fields if you put yourself in a certain mental state
Ergo, a machine that amplifies the psychic abilities of a newtype would be able to have the effects a psychoframe has been shown to create
Furthermore, it describes spacetime being like a swirling torus, and that a sufficiently "synced" mind would be able to see into the past and future. Sounds like Unicorn right? Not to mention Turn A being represented as an "avatar" Gundam that's able to go beyond spacetime
>No the Lambda Drivers make WAY more sense than psychoframe and are definitely predictable.
The entire thing is that the Lambda Drive doesn't actually make sense and is entirely powered by magical nonsense.
>All the lambda drives do is allow the user to exert physical force seemingly without interacting physically in space, but it’s implied they’re just some kind of advanced gravity control/manipulation device.
wrong, moron
you didn't read the books
Speaking of books, whomever translated the current official translations better hope Gatoh was the one misusing clip over magazine, because lemme tell you only a rank amateur would confuse a clip with a magazine.
Any of them, but I'm on 4 right now and left off right at the bit where they're extracting the Mithril mole out of Italy, specifically the moment Sosuke casually mentions that if they're going to lighten the weight of the Fiat they're driving, they should start not by killing and dumping the capture target, but rather the small arsenal he stashed in the car but conveniently forgot to mention, in typical Sosuke fashion.
I mean, I get a lot of people still think the term is interchangeable, but throwing around clip when you mean magazine actually kinda fricks with the verisimilitude, it's the most amateur gaffe you can make with these kinds of stories.
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>it's the most amateur gaffe you can make with these kinds of stories.
How about the Patlabor subtitles that converted all the gun calibers like 5mm or whatever to inches?
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Only if they swap the measurement units. If they do the math and convert mm cal to in cal it's fine, and to be fair caliber measurements in the US flip flop between freedom units and normal people units regularly.
I dunno if that's because the two big standardization groups for boolits are American and French respectively, but shootbangery is up their with train watching on how autistic people can get with their subject matter.
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弾倉 = magazine
The translator got it wrong
Oof.
Again, I get why the mistake endures, but it's a glaringly unfortunate one and one that only gets me because I have the misfortune of knowing better. Still fun reads though.
Any of them, but I'm on 4 right now and left off right at the bit where they're extracting the Mithril mole out of Italy, specifically the moment Sosuke casually mentions that if they're going to lighten the weight of the Fiat they're driving, they should start not by killing and dumping the capture target, but rather the small arsenal he stashed in the car but conveniently forgot to mention, in typical Sosuke fashion.
I mean, I get a lot of people still think the term is interchangeable, but throwing around clip when you mean magazine actually kinda fricks with the verisimilitude, it's the most amateur gaffe you can make with these kinds of stories.
Not him but, isn't that what it was doing basically every time? >Behemoth lets it move when it would otherwise be impossible due to its mass >Sosuke creates a barrier to push things away and so that he can stand on things that can't supposed Al's weight. In the case of the Laevateinn it can either enhance the power of attacks or shut down all other Lambda Drivers in the area >Gauron imagined it as an invisible hammer to crush his enemies with >Leonard used it to let the Belial fly and to amplify the force of his bow's shots
Other than the Laevateinn's trump card, they're basically all some application of force projection.
(You) are literally moronic. They are literally the same bullshit. Neither explained how they translate power of the mind to physical power other than that they did and give it some sci-fi jargon. It's the same old space psychic trope since the golden age of SF. It's just SF wizardry
there are some theories emerging on the fringes of physics that consciousness is fundamental and creates reality rather than the other way around, so using this logic a lambda driver is just a consciousness amplifier. makes sense to me, we might even make something similar in reality eventually when we figure out consciousness
Shit writing.
You put characters in a situation that can't be logically resolved?
Fricking magic lambda driver will save the day!
Frick this stupid ass series, even gundam is more consistent with it's newhalf magic.
FMP is only good for porn and toys.
You have to be chuuni or a fighting shonen anime protag to really get the hang of it, but if your thought processes have more in common with an autistic person you're fricked.
What said.
Its downsides are that it's essentially a getter ray/spiral power super robot weapon that runs on hot blooded fighting spirit and the power of heart, locked to a disspassionate emotionally repressed dude whose worldview is grounded intractably in logic. It's actually a pretty fun concept. The Lambda Driver would work great for a Japanese highschooler who's short on brains but long on guts, but is stuck with a realist war veteran who deals in practacalities and pragmatism, not hopes and dreams.
It also produces waste heat that needs managed, and is dependant on the pilot's mental/emotional state, which makes it unreliable under normal circumstances unless they take special crazy-pills that let them work it more consistently.
To be fair, it's also the case that Sosuke doesn't get much explanation on the LD as a weapon system for a while, and while he can intuit systems similar to what he's used in the past, the LD is unlike anything he's used before.
This. It's amazing how many morons fail to get the entire point, which is "the premise is what if Chirico was forced to pilot a super robot which is powered up by how angry you get".
It doesn't get negated, all the fairy eye does is let them see the force fields and even then several Mithril pilots struggled against even 1 Amalgam unit
Unironcially, the only not bullshit mech mcguffin tech I can think of comes from Uchuu no Stellvia.
>Complex machines requiring direct human interface >Explicitly explained neurological connection devices with clear drawbacks and caveats >Requires colossal autists to even begin functioning with high risk to the user
A show that was considered bottom of the barrel when it aired, but now seems like pure kino compared to what even mainline Gundam offers.
The Behemoths used their lambda drivers to sustain their frames so that it wouldn't collapse under its weight.
Belial used it to fly.
Arbalest/Laevatein used it to augment their weaponry's firepower and do telekinetic punches and shit.
Also, all Lambda Driver equipped machines in the series get some kind of limited forcefield that provides a certain amount of defense to conventional weaponry.
It's actual displayed scope of abilities is very limited. In fact, it's pointed out multiple times in-universe that they're generally an unstable and unreliable piece of technology. It's nowhere near as absurd or overpowered as something like Spiral Power as some people here are saying.
My memory of the series is hazy since it's been years since I've read it, but isn't Sophia's stupid plan something else entirely? I mean, Black Technology is bullshit in general, but the time travel shenanigannery was another invention completely.
Lambda Drivers are just another product of out of place black technology just like Armslaves themselves.
The time frickery from what I understand is another spinoff of TAROS application, alongside the far more mundane seeming Lambda Driver. Anything to do with TAROS from where I'm at seems to be the realm of esper voodoo.
Not him but, isn't that what it was doing basically every time? >Behemoth lets it move when it would otherwise be impossible due to its mass >Sosuke creates a barrier to push things away and so that he can stand on things that can't supposed Al's weight. In the case of the Laevateinn it can either enhance the power of attacks or shut down all other Lambda Drivers in the area >Gauron imagined it as an invisible hammer to crush his enemies with >Leonard used it to let the Belial fly and to amplify the force of his bow's shots
Other than the Laevateinn's trump card, they're basically all some application of force projection.
Well for one you have to be clinically insane to use it. Every one who ever uses a Lambda driver has severe mental issues without exception. >Souske
Is the living personification of every PTSD stereotype ever >Gauron
Has a death wish and a murder boner >Takuma
His memory is fricked and he projects every woman he wants to bang as his big sister >Gates
Is fricking Gates >Lenard
Has mommy issues so bad that he decided to try and rewrite reality >every nameless pilot
Is described as being heavily drugged up because they can't use it otherwise
I dunno, the Canadian Muslim guy seems like he could've pulled it off.
Though maybe wielding the power of God and anime means he too counts as a tad batshit in his own way.
>Weeaboo katana man
You answered it. >Secretary Lady
She's a crazy b***h under all that demeanor. Has history of abuse if I remember correctly. >Sniper Dude
Just cold blooded. Probably the most normal of the 3.
LNs are over (and the sequel too)
The PS4 game (which is only the reason why it got an S4 in the first place i.e. to serve as an ad for the game) already covered events up to the ending
Shouji Gatoh got cancelled due to making fun of that enviromentalist kid whose name I'm already forgetting.
And the other manga not named Sigma ended (or is in endless hiatus) because of the mangaka cutting ties with Gatoh due to his involvement in aforementioned incident.
You'd just shitpost it into oblivion anyway.
At least we got Bandai figures out of it. I can't begin to tell you how much of a Metal Build Gernsback addiction I've developed.
I'm on four of them.
I kinda want a 5th.
I could have the entire TDD SRT from before the Gauron On The Boat incident by my reckoning.
It'll happen one day, it took 13 years for Invisible Victory so there is still hope.
You'd just shitpost it into oblivion anyway.
At least we got Bandai figures out of it. I can't begin to tell you how much of a Metal Build Gernsback addiction I've developed.
I'm on four of them.
I kinda want a 5th.
I could have the entire TDD SRT from before the Gauron On The Boat incident by my reckoning.
The fact that it's inconsistent and if I remember correctly only 2 pilots have ever been able to really use it without being drugged out of their minds
LNs are over (and the sequel too)
The PS4 game (which is only the reason why it got an S4 in the first place i.e. to serve as an ad for the game) already covered events up to the ending
Shouji Gatoh got cancelled due to making fun of that enviromentalist kid whose name I'm already forgetting.
And the other manga not named Sigma ended (or is in endless hiatus) because of the mangaka cutting ties with Gatoh due to his involvement in aforementioned incident.
Better question: why does the Arbalest have the ability to carry an extra anti tank dagger via mouth hard points?
Am I underestimating the value of an extra exploding throwing knife in the hands of a Lambda Driver equipped AS? Or was it some kind of elaborate whispered shitpost?
Not that I know of. Someone that's read the novels would be more of an authority, obviously, but I doubt there was more of an explanation there if at all
Don't get me wrong, I can accept that being the case, I just wanted to know if there was anything further to it beyond looking cool.
If the M9s are commandos, the Arbalest is a ninja. The hard point looks like its holding a kunai in its mouth. It also has a massive forehead protector and can use magic.
But he also uses the dagger when he thinks he can't just blast something with a shotgun.
Yknow it's so much more obvious when fully spelt out, and that's even with the book being upfront about it.
Though, it describes it more with the scroll in mouth cliche rather than kunai in mouth.
It's probably more on point if following the original novel designs. I've been amassing a bunch of Metal Build FMP figures and never really did catch onto the ninja angle with Arbalest, rather I kept thinking of Rambo or any similar caricature of a jungle warrior in 'Nam, while the Gernsback was more like a fighter pilot with that bulbous head.
Yknow it's so much more obvious when fully spelt out, and that's even with the book being upfront about it.
Though, it describes it more with the scroll in mouth cliche rather than kunai in mouth.
It's probably more on point if following the original novel designs. I've been amassing a bunch of Metal Build FMP figures and never really did catch onto the ninja angle with Arbalest, rather I kept thinking of Rambo or any similar caricature of a jungle warrior in 'Nam, while the Gernsback was more like a fighter pilot with that bulbous head.
Higher energy consumption?
>What are its downsides?
It's a highly experimental, unreliable piece of junk that depends too much on unproven science and ultimately can be nothing more than a crutch for lazy pilots.
Downsides? It lives in an unfinished anime.
It's voodoo bullshit that makes psycoframe look like a predictable well understood technology, also "will to force" is such an irrational physics defying concept that it doesn't consistently work if the user is incapable of channeling dumb anime bullshit logic while under its effect.
And lemme tell you, I just finished volume 1 of the LN. Kaname goes to some colorful extremes when explaining to Sosuke what sort of mental state would get the Lambda Driver to proc.
No the Lambda Drivers make WAY more sense than psychoframe and are definitely predictable.
All the lambda drives do is allow the user to exert physical force seemingly without interacting physically in space, but it’s implied they’re just some kind of advanced gravity control/manipulation device.
The shown feats of lambda drivers are simple exertions of physical force that can be explained that way.
Also the full name of it is the “false axis repulsive field generator system”. Which describes this.
Psychoframe on the other hand makes zero sense if you try to look at it as some kind of explainable sci-fi technology. When it’s introduced we’re told it’s just microscopic computer chips but it does shit like channeling soul energy and connecting peoples souls along with a range of physical phenomena ranging from simply pushing a rock to time travel.
And there’s also the inexplicable crystallization.
Both devices “turn human will into force” but one does that using a more theoretical and scientific concept.
They're both anime bullshit field projectors.
yeah this is the difference between bullshitrions and an applied bullshit field
both are completely separated from anything resembling real life and might as well be "a wizard did it" with more science-sounding jargon
>both are completely separated from anything resembling real life and might as well be "a wizard did it" with more science-sounding jargon
You can say that about all sci-fi, the point of these stories and ideas isn't to just be 1:1 with real life. It's to explore what-ifs sprouting from some theoretical ideas across various fields of science, many of which we aren't even certain are possible in reality. In the Lambda Driver's case its simply "what if you could 'violate' Newtonian physics/manipulate gravity?".
The way you dress up and present a fantastical idea like that is very important in sci-fi storytelling and what separates it from just being pure fantasy even if the end result could be described in the same way.
FMP does that well, the Lambda drivers are a simple and straightforward example of a theoretical technology that behaves predictably.
It's implementing the same technological leap/suspension of disbelief you would see in Black Mirror or an Asimov story to justify the existence of things like sentient AI, or digitizing consciousness, artificial gravity, or warp drives.
Psychoframes are literal magic because they aren't extrapolated from any scientific concept or have any rules or consistency to how they behave. They're far too ambiguous and ill-defined.
Newtypes have never been close to consistent.
psychics are as real as FRICK GRAVITY
>Both devices “turn human will into force” but one does that using a more theoretical and scientific concept.
You Kamehamewhat
It's a tense and emotional fast paced action scene.
Having an extremely technical lore dump on the Lambda Driver here would be awkward and break the momentum.
Also Chidori's supposed to come off as a genki hot-headed teenage girl in contrast to Sagara's awkward and literal personality, she's describing how it's used in a way that fits her character's behavior here.
The underlying way the Lambda Driver works is still based in some kind of understandable and predictable concept that lines up with what she's saying despite how she's conveying it.
It's not like this is the first time a character in sci-fi has described fictional technology in an emotional way.
Gym Ghingham, Lowe Guele, Noa, Nohman, Mikazuki, Heero and many others do the same thing.
if you operate on the ideas explained in the gateway process then the psychoframe makes sense
>https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9qag/how-to-escape-the-confines-of-time-and-space-according-to-the-cia
>https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
>operate on the ideas explained in the gateway process then the psychoframe makes sense
Can you elaborate on what ideas would be applied to where?
>matter is a result of energy fields
>your mind also has an energy field
>you can use your own mind's energy field to control and communicate with other energy fields if you put yourself in a certain mental state
Ergo, a machine that amplifies the psychic abilities of a newtype would be able to have the effects a psychoframe has been shown to create
Furthermore, it describes spacetime being like a swirling torus, and that a sufficiently "synced" mind would be able to see into the past and future. Sounds like Unicorn right? Not to mention Turn A being represented as an "avatar" Gundam that's able to go beyond spacetime
For fricks sake that better not be that LSD study during the old MKULTRA days at the CIA.
>No the Lambda Drivers make WAY more sense than psychoframe and are definitely predictable.
The entire thing is that the Lambda Drive doesn't actually make sense and is entirely powered by magical nonsense.
Not him but while how it's powered and what makes it work makes no sense, what it actually does makes perfect sense.
But why it does is the super bullshit part, what even is the TAROS for?
What even -is- an omni-sphere!? Why is everything gonna happy!?
>what even is the TAROS for?
So that the Whispered can access the Whisperers at will
>All the lambda drives do is allow the user to exert physical force seemingly without interacting physically in space, but it’s implied they’re just some kind of advanced gravity control/manipulation device.
wrong, moron
you didn't read the books
Speaking of books, whomever translated the current official translations better hope Gatoh was the one misusing clip over magazine, because lemme tell you only a rank amateur would confuse a clip with a magazine.
I can check the Japanese text right now, give me a book and chapter name.
Any of them, but I'm on 4 right now and left off right at the bit where they're extracting the Mithril mole out of Italy, specifically the moment Sosuke casually mentions that if they're going to lighten the weight of the Fiat they're driving, they should start not by killing and dumping the capture target, but rather the small arsenal he stashed in the car but conveniently forgot to mention, in typical Sosuke fashion.
I mean, I get a lot of people still think the term is interchangeable, but throwing around clip when you mean magazine actually kinda fricks with the verisimilitude, it's the most amateur gaffe you can make with these kinds of stories.
>it's the most amateur gaffe you can make with these kinds of stories.
How about the Patlabor subtitles that converted all the gun calibers like 5mm or whatever to inches?
Only if they swap the measurement units. If they do the math and convert mm cal to in cal it's fine, and to be fair caliber measurements in the US flip flop between freedom units and normal people units regularly.
I dunno if that's because the two big standardization groups for boolits are American and French respectively, but shootbangery is up their with train watching on how autistic people can get with their subject matter.
Oof.
Again, I get why the mistake endures, but it's a glaringly unfortunate one and one that only gets me because I have the misfortune of knowing better. Still fun reads though.
弾倉 = magazine
The translator got it wrong
Not him but, isn't that what it was doing basically every time?
>Behemoth lets it move when it would otherwise be impossible due to its mass
>Sosuke creates a barrier to push things away and so that he can stand on things that can't supposed Al's weight. In the case of the Laevateinn it can either enhance the power of attacks or shut down all other Lambda Drivers in the area
>Gauron imagined it as an invisible hammer to crush his enemies with
>Leonard used it to let the Belial fly and to amplify the force of his bow's shots
Other than the Laevateinn's trump card, they're basically all some application of force projection.
(You) are literally moronic. They are literally the same bullshit. Neither explained how they translate power of the mind to physical power other than that they did and give it some sci-fi jargon. It's the same old space psychic trope since the golden age of SF. It's just SF wizardry
Reminder that the psycoshard is totally Black Technology.
>Char's ghost whispered it to Full Frontal
oh wow it literally is
Full Frontal is a Whispered
Psycoframes are powered by Newtype's mental magic
Lambda Drivers are magic masquerading as science
What can you tell me about...voodoo?
Well, it reminds me of the power of the babe.
WHAT BABE
Who do?
there are some theories emerging on the fringes of physics that consciousness is fundamental and creates reality rather than the other way around, so using this logic a lambda driver is just a consciousness amplifier. makes sense to me, we might even make something similar in reality eventually when we figure out consciousness
"Fringes of physics" is in this case being used to mean "some physicists took hallucinogens".
>some physicists took hallucinogens
and that's how the related experiment results confirmed their theories
is this a thread of Sosukes complaining???
Shut up, Al.
It's unreliable and defensively it's useless against anything the pilot doesn't see coming.
Shit writing.
You put characters in a situation that can't be logically resolved?
Fricking magic lambda driver will save the day!
Frick this stupid ass series, even gundam is more consistent with it's newhalf magic.
FMP is only good for porn and toys.
>You put characters in a situation that can't be logically resolved?
nobody does this by mistake
>nobody does this by mistake
Yeah, it's caused by laziness.
Unicorn is a satire of its own franchise, even if that wasn't the intention.
>even gundam is more consistent with it's newhalf magic.
no it's not. The unicorn can straight up control time and even destroy the universe
>no it's not. The unicorn can straight up control time and even destroy the universe
That's literally what Sophia was doing in FMP, moron.
>newhalf magic
I lol'd
They've evolved be better adapted to space where the dudes can't get it up as well as under gravity or something.
you have to use your imagination.
Its downside is main protagonist suffering from aphantasia
You have to be chuuni or a fighting shonen anime protag to really get the hang of it, but if your thought processes have more in common with an autistic person you're fricked.
What said.
Its downsides are that it's essentially a getter ray/spiral power super robot weapon that runs on hot blooded fighting spirit and the power of heart, locked to a disspassionate emotionally repressed dude whose worldview is grounded intractably in logic. It's actually a pretty fun concept. The Lambda Driver would work great for a Japanese highschooler who's short on brains but long on guts, but is stuck with a realist war veteran who deals in practacalities and pragmatism, not hopes and dreams.
It also produces waste heat that needs managed, and is dependant on the pilot's mental/emotional state, which makes it unreliable under normal circumstances unless they take special crazy-pills that let them work it more consistently.
To be fair, it's also the case that Sosuke doesn't get much explanation on the LD as a weapon system for a while, and while he can intuit systems similar to what he's used in the past, the LD is unlike anything he's used before.
This trolls him for a good bit.
This. It's amazing how many morons fail to get the entire point, which is "the premise is what if Chirico was forced to pilot a super robot which is powered up by how angry you get".
Now I wonder if there are any SRW 4komas on Chirico piloting a supah robo
Just inject enough PCP and other aggression inducing drugs into him while piloting the Getter, that should make thing work.
That's exactly what Amalgam did to its pilots.
It gets negated by the Fairy's Eye system, which allowed Mithril to curbstomp the Lambda driver-equipped Behemoths, Codarls and Erigors..
It doesn't get negated, all the fairy eye does is let them see the force fields and even then several Mithril pilots struggled against even 1 Amalgam unit
The Fairy Feather does negate it though, it was the only reason why Belial lost
You need to be in touch with your emotions and have a very vivid imagination, otherwise it won't do shit
>downside
It is named after one of the lamer-sounding Greek letters
yeah it's basically "lame-da" like literally declaring to be lame
It doesn't work well if you don't have much of an imagination
Unironcially, the only not bullshit mech mcguffin tech I can think of comes from Uchuu no Stellvia.
>Complex machines requiring direct human interface
>Explicitly explained neurological connection devices with clear drawbacks and caveats
>Requires colossal autists to even begin functioning with high risk to the user
A show that was considered bottom of the barrel when it aired, but now seems like pure kino compared to what even mainline Gundam offers.
>magic is more realistic than magic because one can make your thoughts become reality while the other can make your thoughts become reality
It’s not that it’s more realistic, but one make more sense in the story and seems less like an asspull
Isn't it basically just applied telekinesis?
The Behemoths used their lambda drivers to sustain their frames so that it wouldn't collapse under its weight.
Belial used it to fly.
Arbalest/Laevatein used it to augment their weaponry's firepower and do telekinetic punches and shit.
Also, all Lambda Driver equipped machines in the series get some kind of limited forcefield that provides a certain amount of defense to conventional weaponry.
It's actual displayed scope of abilities is very limited. In fact, it's pointed out multiple times in-universe that they're generally an unstable and unreliable piece of technology. It's nowhere near as absurd or overpowered as something like Spiral Power as some people here are saying.
>Isn't it basically just applied telekinesis?
No
Sophia was literally using it for time travel
My memory of the series is hazy since it's been years since I've read it, but isn't Sophia's stupid plan something else entirely? I mean, Black Technology is bullshit in general, but the time travel shenanigannery was another invention completely.
Lambda Drivers are just another product of out of place black technology just like Armslaves themselves.
The time frickery from what I understand is another spinoff of TAROS application, alongside the far more mundane seeming Lambda Driver. Anything to do with TAROS from where I'm at seems to be the realm of esper voodoo.
Tartaros is a super lambda driver
That's just lack of imagination
Well for one you have to be clinically insane to use it. Every one who ever uses a Lambda driver has severe mental issues without exception.
>Souske
Is the living personification of every PTSD stereotype ever
>Gauron
Has a death wish and a murder boner
>Takuma
His memory is fricked and he projects every woman he wants to bang as his big sister
>Gates
Is fricking Gates
>Lenard
Has mommy issues so bad that he decided to try and rewrite reality
>every nameless pilot
Is described as being heavily drugged up because they can't use it otherwise
I dunno, the Canadian Muslim guy seems like he could've pulled it off.
Though maybe wielding the power of God and anime means he too counts as a tad batshit in his own way.
What about weeaboo katana man, sniper dude, and secretary lady?
>Weeaboo katana man
You answered it.
>Secretary Lady
She's a crazy b***h under all that demeanor. Has history of abuse if I remember correctly.
>Sniper Dude
Just cold blooded. Probably the most normal of the 3.
Season 5 when?
>Season 5 when?
Never ever.
LNs are over (and the sequel too)
The PS4 game (which is only the reason why it got an S4 in the first place i.e. to serve as an ad for the game) already covered events up to the ending
Shouji Gatoh got cancelled due to making fun of that enviromentalist kid whose name I'm already forgetting.
And the other manga not named Sigma ended (or is in endless hiatus) because of the mangaka cutting ties with Gatoh due to his involvement in aforementioned incident.
It'll happen one day, it took 13 years for Invisible Victory so there is still hope.
You'd just shitpost it into oblivion anyway.
At least we got Bandai figures out of it. I can't begin to tell you how much of a Metal Build Gernsback addiction I've developed.
I'm on four of them.
I kinda want a 5th.
I could have the entire TDD SRT from before the Gauron On The Boat incident by my reckoning.
The fact that it's inconsistent and if I remember correctly only 2 pilots have ever been able to really use it without being drugged out of their minds
I can't believe we made it this far into a FMP thread without anyone mentioning the Twitter drama
>What are its downsides?
The writers aren't particularly creative with it given it's apparent lack of limitations.
Is the novel worth reading even after watching the anime?
And i mean reading the volumes already adapted.
It's fun stuff, though I'm taking the oldschool route here as someone reading and not having watched much if any of the animated stuff.
Better question: why does the Arbalest have the ability to carry an extra anti tank dagger via mouth hard points?
Am I underestimating the value of an extra exploding throwing knife in the hands of a Lambda Driver equipped AS? Or was it some kind of elaborate whispered shitpost?
Because. It. Looks. Cool.
Don't get me wrong, I can accept that being the case, I just wanted to know if there was anything further to it beyond looking cool.
Not that I know of. Someone that's read the novels would be more of an authority, obviously, but I doubt there was more of an explanation there if at all
If the M9s are commandos, the Arbalest is a ninja. The hard point looks like its holding a kunai in its mouth. It also has a massive forehead protector and can use magic.
But he also uses the dagger when he thinks he can't just blast something with a shotgun.
Yknow it's so much more obvious when fully spelt out, and that's even with the book being upfront about it.
Though, it describes it more with the scroll in mouth cliche rather than kunai in mouth.
It's probably more on point if following the original novel designs. I've been amassing a bunch of Metal Build FMP figures and never really did catch onto the ninja angle with Arbalest, rather I kept thinking of Rambo or any similar caricature of a jungle warrior in 'Nam, while the Gernsback was more like a fighter pilot with that bulbous head.
I thought Arbalest was sportscar