You know the thing with capeshit, it needs to end. Batman's been going since the 60s. Let him die. All these superheroes need to be gone. Make new ones. Ironically that would also make the diversity memery more bearable. You wanna have a black superhero? Go ahead, make one. Instead they're just puppeteering these zombies forever, changing things about them, retconning shit, alternate universes, oh wait he's dead, no wait he's not. It's all so tiresome. Even if capeshit were not completely pozzed and actually written by competent people instead of Bendis and these other hacks I'd still have dropped it just because it's so fricking tired.
I'm not a fan of Worm but I'm pretty sure that this is the sentiment that made it popular: it was all new stuff, with no "deconstruction" spin, just new capeshit during a time when capeshit was really starting to rear its zombie face.
What they could also do is just fricking stop with all the continuity and just tell stories. Batman could still be a character, just tell completely different stuff. Maybe he now lives in Utah, who the frick knows. Joker poisoning the reservoir is done, stop it.
Most are still just Batman in gotham doing batman stuff. Have batman be in san fransisco shooting guns or something. I know I'm moronic, I just want to talk to people.
>also read something other than capeshit.
I actually never read capeshit and I'm making an ignorant statement from someone who past the age of 12 has only read french comics and some manga.
This is also why The Incredibles feels so fresh. You CAN still make good capeshit, the problem is that it needs to be about new characters, REALLY new characters, not "spiderman but he's black" or BatBoy and BatDude and BatGuy spinoffs. Fricking burn it all and start over from the ashes. It's the only way to save capeshit. Batman was great, I loved him as a kid. I loved spidey too. But they're old now, let them rest.
I wish the big two would just launch completely new books with original characters from industry newcomers and do a lot so that it's guaranteed at least a couple will be popular. It's a shame they probably never will because that would just raise costs even more and they really need all those bat and X books.
I wonder if it would be possible to do this and have it formatted as a magazine like manga. Newcoming artists and writers, new capes, new stories. Whatever gets a good feedback gets serialized. I'm no weeb but the magazine format is solid and the West had it for many comic venues. It works.
Magazine anthologies never fricking sell in the US, not in shops ,not in bookstores, not western, not manga. It’s still not like we haven’t thad them, the market here just dried up for it.
Look up 2000 AD, Heavy Metal, or Dark horse presents( which still is anchored by a license like Aliens/Predator )for an example of a western anthology mag
>Magazine anthologies never fricking sell in the US
Well that sucks. They do work in certain instances in Europe.
I think capeshit has untapped potential but it's held down by the old capes. Maybe they shouldn't be retired but at least attempting to give space to new people would be great. What puzzles me the most is that it would genuinely fit so well with the diversity agenda. Have black people make comics with black superheroes. That's actually great, you can really include people this way. I mean, why not. Wanna have a trans superhero, go ahead. If people don't like it, they won't buy it, but at least you represent people with stories that are organic. But no, they have to force this stuff onto well known and established capes. Why? Just make new shit and move the old stuff in the background. This would actually save Batman or Superman or whatever for the really good stories with the really good artists. I just don't understand why it doesn't work this way, it's actually better in every way.
But they do make new trans /minority heroes. The reason you don’t know about those is because no one fricking talks about them because they know talking about gay Superman or Robin gets more attention than Dreamer or Xanthe
You know the thing with capeshit, it needs to end. Batman's been going since the 60s. Let him die. All these superheroes need to be gone. Make new ones. Ironically that would also make the diversity memery more bearable. You wanna have a black superhero? Go ahead, make one. Instead they're just puppeteering these zombies forever, changing things about them, retconning shit, alternate universes, oh wait he's dead, no wait he's not. It's all so tiresome. Even if capeshit were not completely pozzed and actually written by competent people instead of Bendis and these other hacks I'd still have dropped it just because it's so fricking tired.
I'm not a fan of Worm but I'm pretty sure that this is the sentiment that made it popular: it was all new stuff, with no "deconstruction" spin, just new capeshit during a time when capeshit was really starting to rear its zombie face.
What they could also do is just fricking stop with all the continuity and just tell stories. Batman could still be a character, just tell completely different stuff. Maybe he now lives in Utah, who the frick knows. Joker poisoning the reservoir is done, stop it.
>Elseworlds literally exist
>Batman 89 universe, White Knight garbage, Animated Adventures etc etc.
What did anon mean by that
Most are still just Batman in gotham doing batman stuff. Have batman be in san fransisco shooting guns or something. I know I'm moronic, I just want to talk to people.
Speaking of Joker, when was the last time he had a good story?
Maybe Last Knight on Earth? Might have to do with the fact that he wasn't even a villain in the story
>Batman's been going since the 60s. Let him die. All these superheroes need to be gone.
and yet we've had multipled James Bond, Sherlock Holmes, Tarzan, Dracula, Frankenstein, etc adaptations. Why is old fine for those cases?
>Make new ones. Ironically that would also make the diversity memery more bearable. You wanna have a black superhero? Go ahead, make one.
They do have some. Black Panther, Luke Cage: Hero for Hire, Blade, Storm, Falcon, etc.
there's lots of characters that just aren't being used to their full potential
also read something other than capeshit. Marvel and DC used to have titles for other genres too.
>Why is old fine for those cases?
I never said it's fine. Those need to die too.
>I never said it's fine. Those need to die too
Cringe edgy 13 year old
>also read something other than capeshit.
I actually never read capeshit and I'm making an ignorant statement from someone who past the age of 12 has only read french comics and some manga.
>I actually never read capeshit
ok so you have no point then.
>Batman's been going since the 60s
Longer than that zoomer
This is also why The Incredibles feels so fresh. You CAN still make good capeshit, the problem is that it needs to be about new characters, REALLY new characters, not "spiderman but he's black" or BatBoy and BatDude and BatGuy spinoffs. Fricking burn it all and start over from the ashes. It's the only way to save capeshit. Batman was great, I loved him as a kid. I loved spidey too. But they're old now, let them rest.
I wish the big two would just launch completely new books with original characters from industry newcomers and do a lot so that it's guaranteed at least a couple will be popular. It's a shame they probably never will because that would just raise costs even more and they really need all those bat and X books.
I wonder if it would be possible to do this and have it formatted as a magazine like manga. Newcoming artists and writers, new capes, new stories. Whatever gets a good feedback gets serialized. I'm no weeb but the magazine format is solid and the West had it for many comic venues. It works.
Magazine anthologies never fricking sell in the US, not in shops ,not in bookstores, not western, not manga. It’s still not like we haven’t thad them, the market here just dried up for it.
Look up 2000 AD, Heavy Metal, or Dark horse presents( which still is anchored by a license like Aliens/Predator )for an example of a western anthology mag
>Magazine anthologies never fricking sell in the US
Well that sucks. They do work in certain instances in Europe.
I think capeshit has untapped potential but it's held down by the old capes. Maybe they shouldn't be retired but at least attempting to give space to new people would be great. What puzzles me the most is that it would genuinely fit so well with the diversity agenda. Have black people make comics with black superheroes. That's actually great, you can really include people this way. I mean, why not. Wanna have a trans superhero, go ahead. If people don't like it, they won't buy it, but at least you represent people with stories that are organic. But no, they have to force this stuff onto well known and established capes. Why? Just make new shit and move the old stuff in the background. This would actually save Batman or Superman or whatever for the really good stories with the really good artists. I just don't understand why it doesn't work this way, it's actually better in every way.
But they do make new trans /minority heroes. The reason you don’t know about those is because no one fricking talks about them because they know talking about gay Superman or Robin gets more attention than Dreamer or Xanthe
Wrong.
>seven years ago
*twelve years ago
Batman had tons of great stories, who cares if the current stuff mid, The Batman I grew up with ended in 2011 anyways.
>>last good run was seven years ago
That's being incredibly generous.