>Movie/Album is about how society has become completely industrialized on every level and de-personalized every aspect of existence to the point to that we are made to believe nothing matters and we should all hate everything all the time; and how we failed to honor the sacrifices our ancestors made to give us the opportunity to make a better world
>It's also about how in the ways we try and cope with this new walled off and atomized society, we increasingly start to gravitate towards the very vices those previous generations fought to the death to destroy
>"LMAO such whiny boomer homosexualry, school sucks? yeah lol. Wah, your DAD DIED, IN WWII? Who the frick cares? The world sucks, it'll always suck the way it sucks now, get used to it. Stop giving a shit."
The weird, sudden hate for this movie from Millennials stems from it mirroring their reality. By all metrics it's a well-made, well-acted, well-produced movie that is very memorable and highly distinctive. It's more than worthy of the praise it's been given and the sudden hate for it if anything proves it's timeliness and increasing timelessness.
>sudden hate for this movie from Millennials
Trolls larping as Doug Walker don't count, almost everybody I know likes this movie
It's just a 90 minute music video from a boomer band. Only "Hey You" is worth listening to.
Nah, it's kino.
the dvd commentary for this is great. waters says "Black person" during it.
Based, got the clip? I saw it on Vimeo like a homosexual.
unfortunately no. i should digitize my copy someday.
it's been an unbelievably long time since I've listened to it, but I seem to recall it's when he's talking about the clip from The Dam Busters, because of the name of the dog
god damn where does the time go
nothing wrong with the film, you just have to ignore Roger Waters stupid crybaby views on education and how he lost his daddy.
Who hates this movie? /misc/ types love it, Cinemaphile loves it, normies don't know about it, and it's generally a good movie.
>Who hates this movie?
Douge Walker
Never forget
The Wall isn't about society at large. It's specifically autobiographical. Pink isn't the hero and his response to his circumstances is not applauded. In the end, he realizes that human connection is too valuable and worth the vulnerability he was conditioned to fear.
>It's specifically autobiographical
In some ways, but Pink is also a composite of Roger and Syd due to his descent into madness, delusion, and self-harm that Roger didn't have.
>Pink isn't the hero and his response to his circumstances is not applauded.
Yeah, that's the point. He's a neutral depiction of a man annihilated by modernity taken to its logical extreme.
>he realizes that human connection is too valuable and worth the vulnerability he was conditioned to fear.
That's... what I said.
You...didn't say anything of the sort.
It's not about general society. It's about one man.
Oh it definitely is about one man/character, but it applies that to the world at large and how it creates madness, delusion, violence, and hatred among young men.
I love the album but the movie is pretty shit.
Don't agree, but based take. Run Like Hell is my favorite from the album.
It's pretentious and badly made. Just because you can extract meaning from something doesn't mean it's good. You can tell people that industrialization is bad without being a pretentious homosexual showing dumb imagery and bad songs.
You morons are creaming your pants over basic word play
>society is le...walled off...umm wall...walls, we need to break the wall...umm we're like bricks in a wall, oh shit yeah that's a good one
That's not deep, that's looking up a word in a dictionary and seeing that the word has more than 1 meaning
You can't deny the animation and cinematography is mega kino even if you don't like the movie overall
i just relistened to the album. the concept is incomprehensible for śoyboys so i understand why you would hate the film.
That too. Quite literally, it calls them out
It's kino dude. Don't be weird about it.
Cinemaphile is wrong sometimes, they told me to watch Scott Pilgrim instead of Edge of Tomorrow
Hats off to those clever fellows
Nice troll, kek.
Both are kino but not a substitute for the other, frankly
No it isn't.
is about how society has become completely industrialized on every level and de-personalized every aspect of existence to the point to that we are made to believe nothing matters and we should all hate everything all the time; and how we failed to honor the sacrifices our ancestors made to give us the opportunity to make a better world
No, movie/album is about how you can turn your bad memories into an excuse to be apathetic and take distance from reality.
>>It's also about how in the ways we try and cope with this new walled off and atomized society, we increasingly start to gravitate towards the very vices those previous generations fought to the death to destroy
No, the wall is just an allegory to whatever you use to evade other people
>>"LMAO such whiny boomer homosexualry, school sucks? yeah lol. Wah, your DAD DIED, IN WWII? Who the frick cares? The world sucks, it'll always suck the way it sucks now, get used to it. Stop giving a shit."
Its the opposite again. It's about don't bury your painful memories. Each bad memory is another brick in a wall you built around yourself, your own echo chamber that you need to break and expose yourself to be free.
>No, movie/album is about how you can turn your bad memories into an excuse to be apathetic and take distance from reality.
Yeah, but it's also about having a society that encourages you to be apathetic and break your spirit.
>No, the wall is just an allegory to whatever you use to evade other people
Exactly.
>your own echo chamber that you need to break and expose yourself to be free.
Also.
It's mid
I think it's one of those movies that even though you may not like it you can't really hate because it's so well made. Bram Stoker's Dracula is similar in that regard.
Roger Waters managed to break up an entire band by moaning about his dad.
Happy Fathers Day everyone.
Hey now, David Gilmour made some shitty music afterwards
People hate it? It's a great film although it has some issues that stop it from being superior to the album.
The biggest one being the omission of Hey You. Plot-wise it is crucial. It's when he starts showing doubts for the mental state he has put himself in, and it's just a great song by itself.
They also change the story a bit to make him look more sympathetic. He finds out his wife is cheating on him and then starts looking for groupies, when in the album it's the other way around.
The orchestral arrangements are vastly inferior to the album tracks too.
Yeah since the Nostalgia Critic shitpost there's a couple unironic Wall haters lurking around
>Hey You
Such a crime.
>He finds out his wife is cheating on him and then starts looking for groupies, when in the album it's the other way around.
Probably a disagreement with the director, I hear him and Roger were constantly pissed off at each other and fighting about the direction of the movie constantly. I can forgive it though, I think the movie's interpretation does a good job of going at more of a misogyny angle than the more degenerate angle of the album.
>The orchestral arrangements are vastly inferior to the album tracks too.
All except the second appearance of In The Flesh, that second scene at the rally is perfect with the band playing the song
Reminder this whole concept album and film only came about because Roger Waters spat at a fan crawling on to the stage at a concert and realised he was alienated from his own identity purpose as a musician.
Should have been titled "Spittler On The Roof: On Stage" then
I want to frick that cat thing
Haven't seen the movie but I don't like the album very much, Wish You Were Here is their best album.