Calling the military conflicts that the US has engaged in since Vietnam (and arguably before) "wars" does an injustice to those earlier conflicts when the people we fought weren't dirt farmers essentially fighting from the stone age
Iraq had a massive army during the 90s. They had over a million men, 5000 tanks, 1000 aircraft, and they had a modern AA defense. No one expected them to get steamrolled so hard.
To understand the white mans burden of bringing civilization you need to do three things:
First read Heart of Darkness to understand where this notion comes from
Them watch Apocalypse Now Redux to understand how we can contextualize it in the modern world
And last: play Far Cry 2 so you can live it
Take up the White man's burden --
Send forth the best ye breed --
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild --
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.
Take up the White Man's burden --
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times mad plain.
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up the White Man's burden --
The savage wars of peace --
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hope to nought.
Take up the White Man's burden --
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper --
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go make them with your living,
And mark them with your dead!
Take up the White man's burden --
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard --
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light: --
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
"Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up the White Man's burden --
Ye dare not stoop to less --
Nor call too loud on freedom
To cloak your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your Gods and you.
Take up the White Man's burden --
Have done with childish days --
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
It's not about war, the movie is about insanity - both the descent into it, and asking the question if you can ever come back from it after you pass a certain point
the whole movie was basically 3 hours of going up the river slowly and then he just shows up and beheads kurtz without a fight. I watched this movie years ago though but I don't get the big deal about it
is le ptsd and war le bad a psyop?
certainly it has become that way, with every bad thing now supposed to cause ptsd. but war is so deep in our dna is it really so traumatizing? or is that because you are fighting for no reason in a culture that vilifies you?
cringe boomer slop ong
total zoomer death
>human rights are a luxury not everyone can afford
I don't know, I think it's one of the most based and harrowing messages a movie has brought up.
My uncle fought in the gulf war. He fricking loved it. He was in the airforce.
Calling the military conflicts that the US has engaged in since Vietnam (and arguably before) "wars" does an injustice to those earlier conflicts when the people we fought weren't dirt farmers essentially fighting from the stone age
Iraq had a massive army during the 90s. They had over a million men, 5000 tanks, 1000 aircraft, and they had a modern AA defense. No one expected them to get steamrolled so hard.
People, even today, legitimately do not understand how insanely powerful the US Military is
That war was easy win for the US so it doesn't surprise me. Gulf War Syndrome wasn't so funny though.
I used to talk with a vietnam vet a lot when I was in high school, hes the first person to recommend the movie to me and said it's mostly accurate
this movie is cringe asf ngl doubt its anything but realistic frfr
Imagine attempting to sarcasm post knowing it will be seen below/next to the distilled kino that is the poster.
Just read Heart of Darkness.
To understand the white mans burden of bringing civilization you need to do three things:
First read Heart of Darkness to understand where this notion comes from
Them watch Apocalypse Now Redux to understand how we can contextualize it in the modern world
And last: play Far Cry 2 so you can live it
Take up the White man's burden --
Send forth the best ye breed --
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness
On fluttered folk and wild --
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half devil and half child.
Take up the White Man's burden --
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times mad plain.
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.
Take up the White Man's burden --
The savage wars of peace --
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch Sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hope to nought.
Take up the White Man's burden --
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper --
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go make them with your living,
And mark them with your dead!
Take up the White man's burden --
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard --
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light: --
"Why brought ye us from bondage,
"Our loved Egyptian night?"
Take up the White Man's burden --
Ye dare not stoop to less --
Nor call too loud on freedom
To cloak your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your Gods and you.
Take up the White Man's burden --
Have done with childish days --
The lightly proffered laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years,
Cold-edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
It's not about war, the movie is about insanity - both the descent into it, and asking the question if you can ever come back from it after you pass a certain point
I was more blown away by the scale of the production. One of a kind, could never happen again.
It really is something special
Movie sucks dick starting with the dancer show. Slop
What movies do you like, Anon?
The Avengers
the whole movie was basically 3 hours of going up the river slowly and then he just shows up and beheads kurtz without a fight. I watched this movie years ago though but I don't get the big deal about it
Real jungle, real everything, absolute production hell, no cg in site, everything in it was there.
All of that is appreciable yeah, but it was just an anticlimax
is le ptsd and war le bad a psyop?
certainly it has become that way, with every bad thing now supposed to cause ptsd. but war is so deep in our dna is it really so traumatizing? or is that because you are fighting for no reason in a culture that vilifies you?
This movie convinced me I'll never join the military.
War, what is it good for?
Wait until you get drafted zoomer
Frick bridges.