Good. >WHAT IF KID SHOW BUT ACTUALLY IT NOT FOR KID IT SCARY? >WHAT IF OLD SHOW BUT HYPERREALISTIC BLOOD AND BIG BLANK SCARY EYES AND LOUD STATIC?
This would've been interesting in 2008 when creepy pastas were still a novel idea. Frick Pibby and frick analog horror and frick ARG horror and frick mascot horror
I just straight up don’t understand the premise >a blob is corrupting the shows
Ok? Everything is just more staticy, what threat is happening?
WHAT LORE?! It’s blob…and it corrupts. Who the frick can care about this lore except complete autists and greedy Youtubers?
It’s honestly reminiscent of an amusement park halloween ride where we just move from show to show
this entire premise would have been a legal nightmare if it relied solely on crossovers
it was fricked since day 1
The short didn't have a synopsis and that's where they really blew it, it just relied on showing cameos getting le heckin' corrupted without really explaining why
But judging from dialogue? Pibby was gonna be forced to grow up from her own kindergarten world and face shit she wasn't meant to see (i.e. the bleeding)
If that's what the show would've been like, then all the crossover slop would've only been superficial and could've been excused
exactly if it was presented with a drawn together-like premise with knock off characters subtly being nods to existing IPs, it could have been excused
but no it relied solely on the CN multiverse gimmick
it doesn't even make sense as a series!! it's literally a meme. a fun concept. she needs to come around every halloween or april fool's day with something new, that's it.
I'm sure adult swim were eager to greenlight the show but didn't want to deal with the legal nightmare of dealing with all those copyrighted characters, they shot themselves in the foot by depending on other IPs.
the trailer showed Pibby visiting O-Town from Rocko and Bikini Bottom. the artists that worked on Pibby were goddamn braindead for thinking Nick would wanna collaborate with them on something like this
They likely didn't intend for them to actually go to those places. It's not like we got to see the actual characters from those shows in the short. For all we know we could have gotten bootlegs but the backgrounds will be our cue to know 100% what show is being parodied. I don't think they would have had issues if they did it like that, but it's likely not anything too deep.
Take Ok KO as example. They did 1 just 1 crossover with older CN shows and had a lot of red tape to deal with. Now imagine that but is a full series and half of the character become ghouls.
>hell wasn't Adult Swim built on this shit? (Sealab 2021, Birdman, Space Ghost Coast to Coast)
No? Sealab, Space Ghost, Birdman, and all the shit on Birdman were all Hanna Barbera properties, owned by Warner Brothers. It's one thing to do cameos and frick around with characters you own that the writers have some level of respect for. It's another thing entirely to be some unproven schmuck going around asking other, far more popular and successful properties if you can violently butcher their characters to make your own look good.
It also should be noted all of those came out during a time when WB was clearly fricking around with the Hanna Barbera stuff more and they seem more protective of the IP now if Bird Girl is any indication
You would be shocked by how fricked the US copyright system is.
You can’t just use characters you own, you have to go through the process of giving yourself the rights to use the characters, and even further, any sort of totality or co-ownership also needs to be negotiated. It’s stupid and makes no sense, but that’s America
Williams Street shows were >You're airing reruns of these cartoons but we also want original programming. But very cheap. >"Uhhh, can we repurpose old art?" >Sure, but only as comedy. Don't take it really seriously or anything.
That is very different from having an original property that crosses over with old shit and is serious about it.
CN may own these properties, but they'd probably have to pay royalties to the showrunners, producers, possibly even writers every time they use them, just as they would have to pay every time they re-air something.
>have to pay royalties to the showrunners, producers, possibly even writers every time they use them, just as they would have to pay every time they re-air something.
And with the strikes it's just gonna get worse.
Maxwell Atoms explained a while back that for using a character from another department - like using Yogi or Fred Flinstone in Billy and Mandy - takes CNS paying a fee to the WB division to use their likeliness, depsite them all being under the same parent company. OKKO had a hurdle in their crossover. It's really dumb.
>takes CNS paying a fee to the WB division to use their likeliness
thats really stupid. i get there being checks in case of the IP being misused but why a fee lmao
back when those shows were on, WB was a lot less moronic
then they started telling venture bros 'no, you can't have johnny quest characters on your show' and any DC stuff like "no way you can't use (important DC characters), we're doing a movie with them later!" as if they think the characters are literally physical entities that can only be in one place at a time.
I'm wondering if the series bible also has things we haven't seen that the execs did.
Namely plot shit. The pitch and general idea for the show is good, right? But what the frick do you do with that in terms of a long form serialized plot where every episode is >they end up in world of show you like >Entity chases them and destroys the place about 5 minutes in >They fight to survive and one or two survivors from whatever show is left
This thing just doesn't seem like it had much plot potential for a full season of television outside of a few episodes. Maybe if it were about how different worlds try to face the entity in different ways but that would both limit the crossovers and wear its welcome when you realize the entity operates by brute force as it overcomes things in a wave and every unique approach would be undone by this.
The hype around this was about the core concepts, yet no one really questioned how it would work in terms of a full fledged show.
Getting the rights to all the characters, for one. Not all of them are under the CN/AS umbrella, some might have reverted to the creators.
aren't they owned by the same company?
hell wasn't Adult Swim built on this shit? (Sealab 2021, Birdman, Space Ghost Coast to Coast)
The real factor you guys aren't looking at is how studios feel about crossovers. To highlight. Looney Tunes, and Flintstones. (And dear lord lets just hope the creators aren't looking to get something like DC)
If these characters are crossed over in ways where they aren't just clearly being parodied? Typically the teams and companies behind the more 'sacred' properties have huge rules around protecting their image in terms of how they're used, what they can do, what they can't.
Wreck-It-Ralph is an example where you can really see this. They had all the permissions to use these characters but the teams behind said characters and their portrayal still jumped in to say what could or couldn't be done and a huge impasse was just character heights during the support group scenes.
This, and I bet there was a lot of discussion over the idea of Zoomers not being media savvy enough to understand references to older properties. Millennials grew up with re-runs of cartoons like Tom & Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, etc. They'll understand what these characters are and can easily connect the dots.
Zoomers didn't grow up the same way. Can you carry a show like that for a newer generation? Maybe you could if these older characters were trending on tiktok or other relevant platforms but I don't believe you can carry a show like Pibby for a younger demographic.
So '98 myself and now I'm wondering. Did the popularity of Boomerang drop at some point?
I know it's now showing shit from when I was a kid like Teen Titans but that is a fairly recent development.
I'd argue that "early zoomer" were probably the key demo since we were the ones with the most balance in terms of old and new. Hell, we were the ones who grew up on the first wave of creepypastas where "game/show but something's wrong because supernatural shit " was the prominent trope.
In that regard, I'd say the problem is it's one of the hardest age groups to market to in general, having inherited the cynicism of their Gen X parents and actively mock the people older than them for falling for nostalgia based marketing
They have been on the internet for a long time, but they only have knowledge of what the "algorithm" shows them. If it's not part of that fricked up tiktok or youtube algorithm, then they have no clue what it is.
Anon do you realize that the average Zoomer is in their 20s right? I think your conflating Gen Alpha with Zoomers again.
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Anonymous
Yes, I'm aware of that. But I still think what I said is correct. These apps and the way their algorithms dictate what people see have a huge influence on zoomers and even gen alpha.
Wow how shocking absolutely fricking zoomer child cringe concept did not get picked up. >B-B-BUT THE PREMISE WAS AMAZING LE KNOWN CHARACTER BUT LE CREEPYPASTA CORRUPTION AND AND THEY'RE SAVED BY MARY SUE OC DOUGHNUT STEEL AND ALL THE LEGACY CHARACTERS CONSIDER HER THE GREATEST EVER AND EVERYONE WANTS TO BE HER BEST FRIEND KINOKINOKINOKINO
Said no one with more than two brain cells. The fact they even aired the pibby pilot on [AS] is fricking insulting. Its on par with [AS] airing that fricking moronic gmod animation I keep seeing be shilled by zoomers thats fricking garbage I watched two videos and would rather watch a back ally coathanger abortion in the third world.
Lmao no anon companies israelite each other hard especially if its a parent company or a subsidiary or frick even the same company but another country divisoin or just fricking another department in the same building. Corporate culture well boomer corpo culture is beyond fricking cringe self destructive and cancer.
Why don't you just play Kingdom hearts, read The NeverEnding Story, and view other good stuff instead of begging for corporate slop that's just a shitty twist on those things
Matpat, Roundtable and all other YouTube prostitutes are having mental breakdowns that they lost their creepypasta theory ad revenue subject
KEK good no more Hazbin-tier terrible fandom
That subgenre only exists because of the newfound anxiety modern audiences have over asking questions. Blind obsession over mystery is a symptom of an overly obedient audience
To be honest, it had potential if it focused more on a preschool character going through a meta existential crisis like Don't Hug Me I'm Scared. There was the chance it turned out bad, but it could have at least been interesting. What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty? This was a chance for them to try to be experimental again.
I enjoyed the idea of it being a meta-show in a literal "there is no pibby show" kinda way with the live stream they had, where the characters would hijack other shows. It seemed like it could be a fun experimental type of show adult swim would do.
>What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty?
Smiling Friends, Primal, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, that one Superman show, and I believe a new season of Aqua Teen Hunger Force is in the works. I think they'll be fine without Pibby, bro.
You can’t properly gauge reception to anything going off this site alone. Almost everything has gotten strong hate bases here because being contrarian and having bad faith reads for literally any story beat is the norm on here. Look anywhere else online and Unicorn was warmly received just as much as pretty much anything else released this year.
Even Reddit was giving it shit for just being dull, disjointed slop. But not too aggressively because it’s illegal to hold negative opinions towards Genndy. UWE was a miss. It aired and was forgotten immediately
>smiling friends
Won’t last long >Primal
Trash >UWE
Nope, was one season only >Superman
True, S2 locked in and currently the best rated AS original in 2023 >ATHF
Won’t last, it was slipping in quality way back when they did the title change and the recent shorts showed they still don’t have it
>What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty?
They only have the superman show and unicorn as far as I know since primal Aqua teen hunger force and smiling friends are done.
That’s another thing I really fricking hate. How dare you be a lore horror whatever AND POLITICAL?! Frick you, go back to scaring babies out of their money.
Doesn't help that the UK's films and TV have historically been either softly or overtly pro-fascist. V For Vendetta is the only anti-fascist British film
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Anonymous
Right. I need to remember that this is under the lens of a UK perspective. Censorship is a real nightmare for them and DHMIS is taking advantage of their fury at it in a way only the British can. Cold, dry wit.
>when it started lore baiting >I felt relieved when yellow guy shredded the book
congratulations that was the fricking joke, the "lore bait" was taking the piss out of people trying to overanalyse DHMIS
>This was a chance for them to try to be experimental again.
Insincere self-aware 4th wall breaking crossover meta fiction is the opposite of ‘experimental’. It’s rote and tiresome.
To be honest, it had potential if it focused more on a preschool character going through a meta existential crisis like Don't Hug Me I'm Scared. There was the chance it turned out bad, but it could have at least been interesting. What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty? This was a chance for them to try to be experimental again.
They got Primal mainly. If you want to be generous theres Superman and Unicorn
I didn't know that it was getting another season. I do remember Genndy speculating on how it could look like but nothing official. I'm hesitant on a continuation but I'll see how it plays out.
Probably an experiment from the marketing department to further gauge interest? This could be another case like Korgoth the Barbarian where Adult Swim execs wanted to greenlight it but the costs were too high.
Probably an experiment from the marketing department to further gauge interest? This could be another case like Korgoth the Barbarian where Adult Swim execs wanted to greenlight it but the costs were too high.
Not just the costs. I noticed that a lot of the humor was carried by that episode’s side characters and I’m not sure how it would’ve worked out in the other ones.
I’M GONNA SAY IT: Korgoth is the least compelling character in his own show. I found myself enthralled with the other characters just having their asses handed to them or being general weirdoes.
I get the idea that's intentional. Sort of a Mad Max setup where the story isn't really focused on the protagonist, but he keeps getting caught up in everyone's shit anyways. Korgoth not being greenlit was a damned shame.
It really, really was, but I’m saying that the problems don’t stop with costs of productions. As interesting as a premise that is, coming up with a new “everyone’s shit” is probably difficult to do and, unlike in Mad Max, make funny every time. Shit, would they have to have new voice talent every episode if it were green lit? New character designers?
Even Dave the Barbarian with a similar but toned down premise, legendary as it was, could only last one season. And that was with an established cast and the occasional guest star.
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Anonymous
Ohhh. Yeah, okay, I can definitely see where you're coming from here. That would not be an easy production cycle in the least.
Marketing was going yes yes yes everyone else was going frick no please fire these social media addicts they're losing everyone billions of dollars on stupid shit they keep telling the suits will make them rich as frick when it reality people do not want woke trash tumblr trash or any other fanfiction trash their friends made. Frick me thank god for AI being able to read every piece of media about a topic and push out good IC OC or fricking around with it try and find stuff that isn't fully IC for X but works rather well rather than le subversion le "deconstruction" Le modern woke culture reimaging.
AS April Fools pranks are usually low-budget shitposts, not sure what's up with all the kids thinking that was a sign the show was greenlit.
Anyone who actually watched that particular prank live and not the supercut knows it was EXTREMELY low effort and cheap.
Yeah, but the show wanted to go beyond WB properties
Not sure why they couldn't stay in their own lane but I could definitely see something like this causing some legal issues, since Adult Swim/Cartoon Network would definitely not have the rights to shit outside of those properties. Add on that it was going to involve violent, 'adult' depictions of the characters that the creators and original networks may have not approved of...well, it becomes very obvious where the problem would lie.
If this show couldn’t survive with original characters as a fill-in and solely had to rely on using existing properties to work and be shock value then this show and concept was absolute shit and it is the right decision to never let it get made
I literally never said that it wasn't the right decision to never let it get made. The show was always a tryhard disaster from day one. But tryhard disasters have gotten full seasons before, so it just being a bad idea isn't enough to explain why it won't get greenlit. Pibby has way more problems than just 'it's edgy and stupid', even if those are both very true.
I think the best way to put it is "Smash Bros Brawl and it's consequences."
Before that game, Roger Rabbit and shit was recognized as a living hell to make. Smash came along made it look fricking easy because the devs all knew each other and Japan is usually more lax about crossovers as promotional material.
Nah, Jap crossovers are typically all about crossover banter, crossover fights, crossover dynamics and a bunch of other fanservice-y stuff with the story being an excuse to get all these characters in the same room.
Usually, Japanese will nail it on the crossover shit in terms of giving what people came for but the bad stuff is when that shit ends up underwhelming like the infamous "Super Saiyan Blue vs Super Saiyan 4 beam clash" moment (or a lot of Dragon Ball Heroes)
>Japan is usually more lax about crossovers as promotional material.
Japan? Lax? The country that does not have the concept of fair use in its laws being lax about cross overs.
There was one time where the gambling girl manga author wanted to do an isekai crossover, with expies subbing for real manga characters. That was shut down and cancelled before the 2nd chapter.
I meant lax in terms of studios allowed to organize them. Granted even that has the catch that it usually has to be a video game, an OVA, or a 4-koma. It's an ad of sorts. Godzilla and Gamera can meet in all the stage shows and mobile phone games they want but never on the big scrrrn
I think this is one reason why 'Villainous' is struggling. It seems Alan is spending just a bit too much on cameos from other CN properties rather than actual worldbuilding.
honestly that was probably a good idea on behalf of the weird butt group; not only would licensing be a hassle, it'd also kinda be a downer for anyone expecting full-on, no-f's crossover material only to get bootleg spunch bop
i think you can see that with the world of the totally not robin character "beta kid" where they avoided glitching off the DC characters because of their sacred cow-ness
They could have succeeded if they pitched it as "Harvey Birdman meets Adventure Time" but instead they had sniff their own farts and present it as being original
Frick's sake, this. Having some dollar-store knockoff brand versions of famous cartoon characters would have served the exact same purpose while also completely circumventing any legal issues. I can only assume that the people trying to make Pibby are either too prideful or too uncreative to do something like that, though, or it would have been that way from the start.
Not exactly, they still used Scooby, Flinstones and Jetsons, used all the same official actors and even made fun of all the stoner and drug theories. It will never happen now though.
No fricking shit. That show would've been a legal nightmare, and I guarantee it would not have been good or popular enough to justify it.
In any case, good riddance. Seems like some shitty edgy crossover an autistic 12 year old on deviantart would come up with. Judging from what the people who actually wanted this are like, I'm pretty sure I'm not too far off.
I'm glad it's not being made. I would've been forced to hear about the "SCARY FACE CARTOON" for literal years. I bet some CN exec felt the same way about it and said frick that
The online looks seemed to indicate a metaphor for online fandom culture and how it effects shows or whatever. Yet I don't think it really had a plan for that beyond >Fandoms can be mean or whatever
Like it hits George Jetson, and he becomes fome kind of super alpha male that seems great at the time, but slowly morphs him into either a monster or a dictator who controls everything in the Jetsons show?
I started that as a joke, but it sounds like fun. It'd be unique too, since it wouldn't be "BOO SCARY!" and more like actiony and drama.
Like it hits George Jetson, and he becomes fome kind of super alpha male that seems great at the time, but slowly morphs him into either a monster or a dictator who controls everything in the Jetsons show?
I started that as a joke, but it sounds like fun. It'd be unique too, since it wouldn't be "BOO SCARY!" and more like actiony and drama.
I actually like this much more. Here, it seems like it could work as a metaphor for producers trying to modernize old series, but instead destroying their charm. Much better than a vague "fandoms ruin stuff goo".
I'm wondering if the series bible also has things we haven't seen that the execs did.
Namely plot shit. The pitch and general idea for the show is good, right? But what the frick do you do with that in terms of a long form serialized plot where every episode is >they end up in world of show you like >Entity chases them and destroys the place about 5 minutes in >They fight to survive and one or two survivors from whatever show is left
This thing just doesn't seem like it had much plot potential for a full season of television outside of a few episodes. Maybe if it were about how different worlds try to face the entity in different ways but that would both limit the crossovers and wear its welcome when you realize the entity operates by brute force as it overcomes things in a wave and every unique approach would be undone by this.
The hype around this was about the core concepts, yet no one really questioned how it would work in terms of a full fledged show.
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The real factor you guys aren't looking at is how studios feel about crossovers. To highlight. Looney Tunes, and Flintstones. (And dear lord lets just hope the creators aren't looking to get something like DC)
If these characters are crossed over in ways where they aren't just clearly being parodied? Typically the teams and companies behind the more 'sacred' properties have huge rules around protecting their image in terms of how they're used, what they can do, what they can't.
Wreck-It-Ralph is an example where you can really see this. They had all the permissions to use these characters but the teams behind said characters and their portrayal still jumped in to say what could or couldn't be done and a huge impasse was just character heights during the support group scenes.
These questions concerning plot were raised for Don't Hug Me I'm Scared and look how it turned out. Each episode followed a formula of a teacher and spooky shit happening to the puppets. Since Pibby was just a short pilot there was the chance the final product would be different. DHMIS added more comedic elements to the show compared to its web episodes. Who knows what they could have added to make a full show work.
>This show was not going to be a comedy.
We don't know that. All we have is a short, and a pitch bible that could easily become out dated. Look at the pitch bible's for a bunch of other shows that ended up completely different when it premiered. This happens all the time.
DHMIS also plays with more surreal stuff instead of bizarre. The actual plot pieced together over time but it mostly revolved around the commentary and the puppets were allowed to flat out die episode to episode.
This wouldn't be allowed to do that, it's a continuing story with an at least somewhat serialized narrative from step one.
The writing was on the wall all this time so this isn't even a surprise
But it doesn't matter anyway, by this point the homosexuals who care still will make their own pibby series if [as] will not do it
I think that one of the real reasons it wasn't greenlit was the behavior of Pibby's creators, that they possibly tried to claim ownership of the pre-existing show's ideas and characters
It really is a shame Pibby got overrun by clickbait youtuber content because that shit definitely altered people's perception of what the show could've actually been but oh well
There's no good reason for this to not have aired on Cartoon Network itself, it's about as "mature" as some of the darker episodes of Gumball, the only thing that makes it more "adult" is that it has slightly more blood.
Oh right the darkness was supposed to be internet slang
And that the internet was the ones corrupting everything
I forgot about that detail, and now even more glad that they aren't moving forward with it
Yes, but I’m sure it wasn’t a complete wimp about it. I never played it, but it looks mature enough to show you that war happens and you need to be an adult about the killings.
I also just can’t stand the compete homosexualry from Undertale, it feels like I’m being lectured by a vegan about killing in an RPG.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>it feels like I’m being lectured by a vegan about killing in an RPG
kek that's an great analogy
7 months ago
Anonymous
Thank you. I think these horror stories are all being spearheaded by vegan-type mentalities. They want to spook you with white guilt instead of something truly scary, like transgender surgeries.
Some people say the game finger wags the people who play it. Like "How dare you enjoy a fictional first person shooter!?". Other people say its not judging you, but giving you something to think about. Like we're supposed understand we aren't the player character, but we're supposed to sit back and contemplate how war is ugly and brutal.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>war bad, killing bad
How deep... I'll be thinking about this for days...
Frick you, Undertale. I bought 100% of the game, why shouldn't I play 100% of the game?
7 months ago
Anonymous
This
Undertale was mocking you for being a completionist and not engaging with the media you consume critically.
Fricking vegans and their resistance to manifest destiny. That’s what this is, man’s a naturally curious creature that wants to explore everything and every avenue in every way, but vegans will go up to then and say “NUH UH, MUH STUPID ANIMALS” then come up with ways that are worse for the environment just to feel like they’ve finally won against someone.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't engage in video games organically. >Probably looks up guides.
Cringe.
Frick you, Undertale. I bought 100% of the game, why shouldn't I play 100% of the game?
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Fricking vegans and their resistance to manifest destiny. That’s what this is, man’s a naturally curious creature that wants to explore everything and every avenue in every way, but vegans will go up to then and say “NUH UH, MUH STUPID ANIMALS” then come up with ways that are worse for the environment just to feel like they’ve finally won against someone.
I hate it when media tells me that I am the problem for following my instincts and consuming it properly. I think it started with Undertake.
>People still think Undertale was actually mocking/lecturing them about completionism and not just doing metanarrative in 2023
Wew
I hate it when media tells me that I am the problem for following my instincts and consuming it properly. I think it started with Undertake.
Yes, but I’m sure it wasn’t a complete wimp about it. I never played it, but it looks mature enough to show you that war happens and you need to be an adult about the killings.
I also just can’t stand the compete homosexualry from Undertale, it feels like I’m being lectured by a vegan about killing in an RPG.
Especially when the “bad guy” is a poorly written caricature.
Another problem with undertale/deltarune is that they literally worship an angel in that universe THAT IS SATAN! TOBY FOX’S IPS ARE SATANIC IN NATURE. I CAN’T FRICKING BELIEVE IT. A israelite IS PROMOTING SATANISM, YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.. I hope chapter 3 never comes. I can’t handle the autism
Well that looks better than your usual content farm channel
7 months ago
Anonymous
What kind of autism drives a man to use his skills in animation to produce something like this thing
7 months ago
Anonymous
>*Mutes the videos*
Now it's watchable
7 months ago
Anonymous
I really hope I live long enough to witness what children who grew up watching and playing this shit will become
7 months ago
Anonymous
They're going to be mentally irreparable, but it's gonna be a laugh-riot to see them crumble, that's for sure.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's gonna be a trainwreck for civilization
Or not, it all ultimately depends how they behave in the high school years
7 months ago
Anonymous
some will become internet weirdos clinging to their fleeting relevance, some will go on to become the next generation of industry names, and the rest will drop off this side of the internet and live repetitively normal lives.
same as its always been
7 months ago
Anonymous
I fully respect the creators here. If you're gonna be autistic as frick, you should have the balls and the talent to be awesome about it, too.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Same. Even if it's not my preference, the effort is demonstrably impressive.
Just like fetish porn.
>millions of views (literally 33 million) >the top 4th most viewed video on adult swim's channel >tons of fanart >already has fan songs, game mods, fan fiction, animations >no greenlight despite there already being a massive fanbase constantly waiting for new news like vultures
I don't get it. Even if you don't like it, it's not hard to see that this already has franchise potential and could literally be the next big show they make it. It's already highly anticipated by the people that do like it. What is stopping them from making this is a show? It's art style makes it cheap as hell to produce and logically any executive should be having fricking dollar eyes popping out of their head in this situation. Are they just stupid? >checks notes
Oh right. This is warnermedia we're talking about, the same people who cancel a bunch of shit and are literally causing cartoon network to fall. I guess they just really don't want their buisness to be successful...
Who's gonna pay for all the royalties for utilizing people's IPs? Who's gonna pay all the lawyers who need to navigate the legal shithole this show would be? Who's gonna deal with potential lawsuits? What if I file a class-action lawsuit against this nonsense and stop it dead in its tracks? Think beyond your instant gratification, zoomer.
>What if I file a class-action lawsuit against this nonsense and stop it dead in its tracks?
Are you implying you wouldn't immediately get dismissed by a judge? You are just a literal who.
this entire premise would have been a legal nightmare if it relied solely on crossovers
it was fricked since day 1
>noo you can't make a cartoon about other IPs even though warner has a frick ton of IPs to utilize
It was pretty obvious from the teaser they never intended to use anything outside of their brand
The hypothetical expies of all the classic WB characters could potentially be more interesting than the originals if they're written well enough. They made one original property ("pibby" itself), why not simply make more? Brand recognition? That doesn't matter at all for a story like this, it's about the archetypes of the characters and what you do with them, which will be the same even if they're dollar store knockoffs.
Why can't we get some autistic homosexual CEO that'd greenlight fun and experimental shit like this? Everything's so bland and tired now; I'd like to see some wacky stuff like a Flintstone's action RPG, a Johnny Quest Souls Like, and a Jetson's FPS where you shoot robots with cartoony future guns/sound effects.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>reusing old IPs >for modern trends >experimental >and fun
Seriously, just make expies or original shit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Personally, I've never hated reusing old IPs or trend chasing. My issue is they're always cynically done or basic b***h ideas. Something like "Uhh...Flintstones cartoon, but everyone's an butthole, Barney's black, and we'll push a heavy agenda. People will love it!" and never anything fun.
Don't forget they actually spent money to do an April Fools joke, and bought a billboard advertising this. What a waste of money if this wasn't going to be anything.
Adult Swim always had limited funds. For example, Venture Bros took a long time to produce due to the budget they had. There is a reason why they always did cheaper productions like Aqua Teen Hunger Force and 12 Ounce Mouse. Right now the most money they are pouring into is Rick and Morty since it is their current flagship. Dodge said the show just hasn't been greenlit instead of being rejected. Maybe the network wants to wait for a time where they can have enough money to fund Pibby. The licensing fees will probably take up most of the budget. I wouldn't be surprised if other factors like the strike played a part, but there is no way to know for certain.
You can tell they gave up on the whole industry after kids networks went back to episodic comedies and every project to milk got cancelled or passed by the networks.
I'm moronic because I've always thought this concept would be better for an adventure game. You're a cartoon character, but you have to leave your world to fight some kind of corruption, and along the way you meet up with classic cartoon characters from a variety of IPS.
So, Kingdom Hearts, but you can have Fred Flintstone in your party.
Did anyone ever answer this? What did the blob do? Does it just corrupt things? Do corrupted things die? Is this some of that homosexual stuff where writers are too afraid to explain their bullshit, so they go "its SCARIER if we leave it ambiguous!"?
Anything which wasn’t Rick and Morty or Adventure Time was almost certainly cancelled.
Heck, they even cancelled and wrote off the Regular Show spin-off, WBD literally don’t care
The only thing autists love more than trains or sonic the hedgehog is crossovers. Massive crossovers where everything crosses over with everything else. I never understood it myself.
>Massive crossovers where everything crosses over with everything else. I never understood it myself.
Autist here. I see the appeal, seeing all your favorite characters in one place and imagining how'd they'd interact is really interesting to me. I guess it's an extension of autists being obsessed with lore.
>Creepypasta: The show won't be greenlit
Thank God, did people actually thought this show was going to actually be made? Maybe back in the early 2000s but nowadays?
Don't Hug Me I'm Scared got picked up for a show, and everyone fricking loved the first season. Even Cinemaphile. It's not unusual to think Pibby could get picked up nowadays.
Pibby is just safe and corporate edgy it would have never been something memorable apart of maybe tackle the idea of "death of innocence"
Good because edge without restraint fricking sucks. Read Crossed or The Boys to see how bad it can get.
>unhinged facial expression >gross hairstyle >gore
You’re not wrong, but that’s not the first thought to come to my mind. Edgelord shit is more like it.
>memorable apart of maybe tackle the idea of "death of innocence"
Ironic, because a concept like this can only come up by innocent kids who don't understand what is mature content
Not a surprise at all, I know autists on the internet were clamoring for it to get made but I highly doubt any of the creators of CN shows wanted their characters involved in this
>but I highly doubt any of the creators of CN shows wanted their characters involved in this
Not like they had any choice in the matter besides the guy who made Ed, Edd n Eddy.
He didn't say it was outright cancelled. It seems like Adult Swim might not be in a good position to green light this show right now, and things kept coming up. >There was the strikes this year that began in March and only ended recently at the end of September. Delayed a lot of productions in the process. >Company merger likely slowed down the execs from making a greenlight decision while Zaslav looked over the assets of the company for tax write-offs. >Covid slowing things down. >There is the other AS projects they been working on which likely took up the money they could have used to kickstart production for Pibby like Primal or Rick and Morty.
If nothing comes out of this in a few more years then it is safe to say it is done. However, there is a clear interest from AS if they were willing to use Pibby for April Fools and buy a billboard. Adult Swim announced the Uzumaki adaptation since 2019 and we barely got an update on it this year after production delays. Pibby will likely be a while unless nothing is going on to prevent AS. Their only obstacle should be licensing if things were better.
Giga copium. Uzumaki had yearly updates, they were always “next year” but we never were in the dark longer than that. More importantly, Uzumaki actually did have the greenlight before all those delays. Pibby has always been a short and nothing more >muh April fools
Have you seen how uninspired April fools has been the past few years? Having a cheap idea to use for a year was convenient, not some grand setup for Pibby to be made
I wouldn't be surprised if Pibby hasn't been picked up is because of distribution of resources. Adult Swim already pours a lot of money into Rick and Morty, and for Genndy Tartakovsky to produce two action heavy cartoons. That is not mentioning the develop of the Venture Bros movie which was always an expensive show to make for AS. They probably haven't gave the greenlight due to not having a good time to secure the money needed for licensing or whatever we could expect out of the production for Pibby.
Happy Tree Friends did it for comedy. All the characters would come back unharmed, and the gore was cartoony and ironically childish in how gratuitous or over the top it was.
Pibby's different. It was meant to be serious, but a lot of people just want to see the cute main character tortured. I'll be honest, I can't stand gore gays for that reason.
It doesn’t matter what “route” the damn thing took, either way it would’ve been taken over by gen alpha and would’ve become the same as Skibidi, only worse. The autism of this pitch is unsalvageable.
Imagine having a show pitch that's already gone massively viral multiple times before a single episode was ever even made, has basically infinite marketing and merchandising potential, and not picking it up because you "know better."
It seems like the modern entertainment industry has basically become an endless circle of people telling you exactly what they want to buy, and then executives ignoring it and hocking other things nobody wants.
I feel the “trendyness” of pibby is over now, so it wouldn't do as well with the youtube zoomer audience, but i can imagine it getting a sizeable amount of "ironic hate watchers" like a lot of shows get.
realistically how many people are going to actually watch it and like it?
>It's not that they know better, it's that they know better! They know it won't be profitable before it even gets made even though it's already had the kind of exposure and success companies pay thousands of dollars in marketing to get
They do know better though. Do you think some executive just said "I won't greenlight this because I'm old and dumb, haha massive L for us boomers again" without having a bean counter run the numbers? The premise of the show demands ridiculous licensing costs that would surely have outweighed the potential revenue.
Anon, This was dead in the water the moment they turned it into a “Kingdom Hearts” crossover thing
Because on one hand, nobody will give a frick about Walmart Robin or Walmart Ursula if you put them next to Fred Flintstone or Steven Universe.
But on the other hand, They would have to get all those legal rights to use the characters and that’s never going to happen, (especially since they use SpongeBob as part of the teaser, AS ARENT GETTING THE RIGHTS TO SPONGEBOB FOR NICK, especially for a modern take on “What if cartoon… but BAD!!!!” horror stories of the mid to late 2000s.
Read his statement again.
Pibby was already built upon an unrealistic expectation that IPs owned by competing entities can be featured as an integral part of one show.
Sure, multiversal crossovers happen - but among IPs of a single owner.
>Because on one hand, nobody will give a frick about Walmart Robin or Walmart Ursula if you put them next to Fred Flintstone or Steven Universe.
You're wrong because people love Sora. The same goes for Ralph from Wreck-It Ralph for the first film. He was surrounded by characters like Sonic and Bowser yet he was still a liked protagonist audiences didn't ignore. There is also Roger and Eddie from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. They were in the presence of legendary characters like Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse.
I don't think you can use Ralph, we only got relatively brief crossover appearances, everything else was mostly original stuff. And we didn't even get Mario.
I pretend the second movie didn’t happen except there was a trailer with a bunny getting the pancakes. That’s just too hot to ignore. Fricking cowards cut it out of the film and now there’s just nothing noteworthy about it. So why bother remembering it?
No one is going to be upset at Pibby and her OC crew jumping into universes. Let me take your examples and spin them to where they match what would have to happen.
Sora, instead of going to Frozen, and interacting with Elsa and Anna, would instead go to the Snow Queen world and meet Gerta and the Snow Queen. Ralph wouldn't be alongside Sonic and Bowser, he's alongside Mach Hedgehog and the Turtle King. For Roger Rabbit, instead off all the classic Warner and Disney characters, you'd instead see Rickey Rabbit, and Michael Mouse.
The draw of a crossover fiction is being able to see a character you know in a new light, or interacting with things they normally wouldn't. If all the crossover stuff is knockoffs with the serial numbers filed off, it loses that draw.
>Sora, instead of going to Frozen, and interacting with Elsa and Anna
I know what you're trying to say but Sora hardly even interacted with the Frozen characters last I remember.
I think one of the biggest jokes about Frozen's world is how they legitmately just had Sora in the background half the time and they even had Elsa do the entirety of Let it Go when no other world got a musical number.
Weren't the developers kneecapped by Disney in that regard? There's a rumor going around of there being an Elsa boss fight that was planned, and she'd have created that ice castle part, but that got shitcanned because the Disney/Pixar said no.
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Honestly the entire section of the game scream "Disney Meddling" with the entire "Let it go" song being the biggest tell.
I thought anon's point I was replying to was that having a protagonist who is an original character would have them be outshined by the character who comes from an established IP. They argued that people would not care about the original character to drive the plot so long as they see those established characters on screen when we know that is not true.
executives use companys as personal toys a lot of the time. its half of the reason behind corporate meddling, with the other half being executives wanting to make more money by following data rather than whats good
It’s got no substance. It’s just characters either running from or being consumed by a thing. The characters themselves either already being established or hollow archetypes.
Ok, lest say that by some miracle a executive gives it a chance and announces it
The sheer amount of expectations that will not be meet will just break the "novelty" of the show
>Imagine having a show pitch that's already gone massively viral multiple times before a single episode was ever even made
On that basis, you might as well just go and watch Skibidi Toilet like everyone else.
>L
ok moron zoomie, the one without his shitty cartoon here is you
thats the biggest "L" you morons like to phrase and belongs to you
the same garbage with at least more content has been done to death already, we don't need more "LEEE CUTE BUT EDDGYY CARTOOON" shit you homosexuals like to eat, & most of the zoomers have eaten the tidepods, that doesn't mean it's good
Did anyone care about that outside of the couple gays who wanted a new lesbian couple to obsess over?
It’s still sad. I liked the concept, but they could have used parody’s of the characters
Considering the parody character they did make for the pitch… Yea, that’s not a good idea either
>Narrative's shifted from 'this is clearly just the CEOs being moronic, Pibby is a great idea!'
to >W-Well, they should just make... bootlegs!
Suddenly there's no point watching the show, because it just removed half of its relevant ideas.
>because it just removed half of its relevant ideas.
I mean, the whole connected cartoon multiverse between all the showing WAS the whole idea, so without idea, it’s just a basic zombie show but with a glitchy blob instead of flesh eating corpses.
The Pibbygays seething at the company because they don't understand basic legal and financial maneuvering is hilarious
When you realize you'd have to pay money to people EVERY SINGLE TIME you push out an episode because they legally need to be paid royalties for the use of their characters, YES EVEN THEIR SETTINGS, you understand why even the most braindead of network CEOs wouldn't pick this slop up.
Geez, those are some lethal levels of autism all over this spergfest. I'm actually having much harder time scrolling through this than through gore threads.
Ohhh. Yeah, okay, I can definitely see where you're coming from here. That would not be an easy production cycle in the least.
Don’t get me wrong, I would have loved to have seen a new cast getting their shit kicked in every episode by this unstoppable force. That’s an impracticality I can get behind, way better than just having characters avoid being swallowed up by a whatever.
You were already told why this show wasn't feasible little bro, but clearly financial and legal terms are too big for your pea brain, so we have to resort to speaking to you this way.
I feel like we dodged a bullet here. Pibby wasn’t even a real series and the fandom was already really bad. It probably would have been brony-tier if it actually got greenlit.
It would be the best justification for its existence, but it has to be the most impractical thing I can imagine. No way would these lazy asses go through with it.
If licensing was an issue why not stick to Adult Swim properties for the first season? That way they wouldn't have to worry about the stupid bureaucracy involved in using characters from other companies under Warner Bros.
He didn't say it was outright cancelled. It seems like Adult Swim might not be in a good position to green light this show right now, and things kept coming up. >There was the strikes this year that began in March and only ended recently at the end of September. Delayed a lot of productions in the process. >Company merger likely slowed down the execs from making a greenlight decision while Zaslav looked over the assets of the company for tax write-offs. >Covid slowing things down. >There is the other AS projects they been working on which likely took up the money they could have used to kickstart production for Pibby like Primal or Rick and Morty.
If nothing comes out of this in a few more years then it is safe to say it is done. However, there is a clear interest from AS if they were willing to use Pibby for April Fools and buy a billboard. Adult Swim announced the Uzumaki adaptation since 2019 and we barely got an update on it this year after production delays. Pibby will likely be a while unless nothing is going on to prevent AS. Their only obstacle should be licensing if things were better.
. Movies get stuck in development despite getting greenlights due to small or big events going on around production.
If there's one thing the theories surrounding the DT2017 cancellation taught me, it's that we want it to be unprofessional staff behavior because we love the idea of staff behavior being the reason for cancellation when the show runner has a particular level of autism about the properties they're working.
There's just something extremely funny about the idea of that one fan living their dream making that level of official fanfiction, only for the studio to decide they're fricking annoying and drop the hammer
The number one theory on here around it's cancellation, at least at the time, was that Frank Angones was just so insufferable for his bosses that they didn't wanna work with him anymore.
...so just make parodies the same way other franchises make parodies/bootlegs - have her meet the Fleenstoans, Dooby Don't, Mick & Rorty, Cstman & Canary...
>Narrative's shifted from 'this is clearly just the CEOs being moronic, Pibby is a great idea!'
to >W-Well, they should just make... bootlegs!
Suddenly there's no point watching the show, because it just removed half of its relevant ideas.
The only way I could see this working is if
A. They used parodies of cartoon characters instead of the actual characters (except maybe very old and obscure Hanna Barbara characters if they really wanted some crossover) and
B. The corrupting “glitch” turned characters into mean-spirited parodies of themselves instead of generic zombies.
The latter can be used as a metaphor on how fans want to force darker themes onto shows that don’t need them and even provide commentary on how Adult Swim got successful turning old child-friendly characters into buttholes
>Japan is usually more lax about crossovers as promotional material.
Japan? Lax? The country that does not have the concept of fair use in its laws being lax about cross overs.
There was one time where the gambling girl manga author wanted to do an isekai crossover, with expies subbing for real manga characters. That was shut down and cancelled before the 2nd chapter.
>They used parodies of cartoon characters instead of the actual characters
Pic related was cancelled in Japan. In US legal land, a crossover of Pibby's scale is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
People like him just project things they like onto Japan. No matter how nonsensical it is to people who actually know about Japan. Like the anti consumerists who say we need to be like Japan, which is possibly the most consumerist country there is.
People like him just project things they like onto Japan. No matter how nonsensical it is to people who actually know about Japan. Like the anti consumerists who say we need to be like Japan, which is possibly the most consumerist country there is.
I've seen people do this with race, too. People will say "I can't wait to get to Japan so I can be free of nogs and crime!" but in Japan, they'll treat any outsider like a Black person. You can live a good life in Japan, though. Just move with friends, buy a beautiful piece of land, and understand that most Japanese people will never accept you as a Japanese citizen.
I've said it once, I've said it a dozen times, I'm saying it, again.
Pibby's main problem is that it's being released too late. If it came out 15 years ago, it would have been AMAZING. If it came out 10 years ago, it would have been cool. But alas, Pibby made its debut when "meta-fiction" was already so commonplace that it's basically its own genre. In a world where every media company is trying to do its own Cinematic Universe or "Ready Player One" kitchen sink setting, Pibby just isn't interesting to modern audiences.
You're speaking of quality though. You're completely correct, but quality has very little to do with success. Pibby might have been a hit 15 years ago, or it might have been too extreme and subversive for the time, because popularity is determined by how digestible something is for the masses. Pibby basically ONLY would be a massive hit nowadays, for the exact same reasons that the quality would suffer.
And each skit was SECONDS long, two to three minutes maximum. You’re asking for a whole show with characters, motivations, and storylines that execs can’t just give to some alog horror schlock
I love how desperate Pibbygays are getting to try and push this crap, in the hopes the executives change their mind
First you people want it a serious edgekino creepypasta, next you wanted bootleg characters, now you're trying 'b-but Pibby is satire!'
Maybe you guys need to latch onto Skibidi Toilet or something, that must soothe your autism.
Why do you make it sound like this is a collective opinion that is shifting and not multiple people with their own perspective on the matter? Are you lurking this thread to autistically talk shit?
Yes, I believe Pibbygays have a sort of hive mind and they shift whenever one take is debunked.
The inverse is assuming they’re all brain dead who can’t bother to understand they’re destroying the premise of the show with their vain attempts to bypass the several hurdles, and I would rather give you all the benefit of the doubt here.
And each skit was SECONDS long, two to three minutes maximum. You’re asking for a whole show with characters, motivations, and storylines that execs can’t just give to some alog horror schlock
>Animation being dumped to save money >homosexual Writer's strike kicked off a market contraction, meaning less shows being made with fewer episodes
It never had a chance
the whole idea was shit from the get go
looks like saner heads prevailed this time, which is unusual. (I also hope this guy and all his friends NEVER get a show, they suck on a fundamental, underachieving, loser level)
From the sound of it, this is a case where it can be but it is not a priority to the execs. He would have said if it was outright rejected like so many other creators regarding their pilots.
GKNDgays faded away a few weeks after that years April Fools event that they convinced themselves would be GKND. They occasionally pop up but have otherwise faded away
Pibby fueled one of the most autistic types of person on the internet and they latched on hard and have been shitting up AS discussion about the show since the trailer dropped
a damn shame, I was really looking forward to it and seeing content that wasn't fnf related.
I suspected royalties would've been a problem with the show coming into existence though.
Pibby is over so no more news in the foreseeable future and that means there are no reason for more pibby threads in Cinemaphile ever again
Amen to that
Honestly this concept would have never worked for a full show. It gained popularity exclusively by shock value. And while shock value is a good gimmick to get people interested in the studio or network, it can’t be used to prop up an entire animated series, Pibby was nothing more than a Too Many Cooks scenario. Something just made to get people talking about adult swim.
And let’s face it, Pibby was trying to do the creepy pasta thing years after it was relevant. This is a 2014 era pilot that got released in 2023
In all honesty, when the trailer dropped, i couldn't believe autistic prepubescent teens were cheering for another "dark and edgy" creepypasta (ugly, unoriginal and unfunny one at that) with a Sigourney Weaver gen-alpha ripoff as the MC who needs to "believe in herself" (ugh).
Everything about Pibby spells "creative bankruptcy". If you kept the OG concept but all the franchises were all fake and made-up (i.e. : Wreck It Ralph but applied for cartoons), it could have been an interesting (not great, just interesting) commentary on network TV and the collective unconscious, but with raunchy visuals and weird meta humor.
>almost
Damn I almost have had you
One would have thought they'd have something it show after giving three of their most popular IPs a movie but instead they were just released with nothing to chase them
>Trending on Twitter for two days straight >People b***hing on all social media >Comment sections filled with angry pibby fans
Shit, this is gonna be another Venture Brothers/Smiling Friends situation where the fans bully the studio into making their show, isn't it? Because that's hilarious and awesome and I highly approve. Bullying corporations is fun and productive.
That is how movie Sonic became less ugly. Sometimes something looks so hideous that every anti-bullying convention taught in schools falls to the wayside.
Either way, I hope Pibby never gets made because this generation needs to learn the word “no”.
That reminds me, how old is George Jetson now? I remember when we were memeing his date of conception. And I know we complained about rehashing IPs, but what if we focused on a Jetsons prequel set in the modern day?
It's a real damn shame that it won't be made into a series because I wanted to see fanart of Pibby getting violently raped by wieners of corruption until she becomes a cum zombie in graphic details.
What would be the point? From what I've seen, the crossover element is one of the only stand out features, even then, all preexisting characters were part of the glitch and weren't their actual characters, essentially only having them for recognition reasons.
What exactly would this show have had to offer? I don't understand the potential people seemed to think this idea had. Subversion of children's media is a lame and overused trope.
The development of a character from a preschool show having to leave their sheltered life and learn to mature. The crossover aspect was a bonus for the character to see how bigger things really are.
The fanbase was, and this is not a lie or exaggeration, Friday Night Funkin' fans because it wove in effortlessly with the FNF Sonic.exe subculture. Zoomers and Gen A have an endless appetite for this shit and anyone outside of that age bracket will never understand.
This. People had an absolutely delusional idea about how deep and supposedly mature this shit was going to be. It was going to be bottom of the barrel, Sonic.exe tier content and the most that would come out of it would be hundreds of fan theories that are clearly looking way too deep into it.
At first I thought this seemed like a neat concept for a cartoon, but then I took a look at the TV Tropes Nightmare Fuel page for Villanos and realized that I do NOT want this kind of autism unleashed upon this world,
You remind me of the zoomer gays clamoring for Infinity Train lol
The biggest problem was that it would have been made by corporations so they were going to play it safe and not do the shit people actually want from this kind of media
It's like if they were trying to make something like Black Souls but sanitized and corporate
This. People had an absolutely delusional idea about how deep and supposedly mature this shit was going to be. It was going to be bottom of the barrel, Sonic.exe tier content and the most that would come out of it would be hundreds of fan theories that are clearly looking way too deep into it.
At first I thought this seemed like a neat concept for a cartoon, but then I took a look at the TV Tropes Nightmare Fuel page for Villanos and realized that I do NOT want this kind of autism unleashed upon this world,
Pibby, Bluey, Ohio, Bowser fart, Peppino.
Chungus, 'mong us, Jumbo Josh, Skibididi Toilet and Ghetto Smosh
Kino, canny, reddit gold, Freddy FNAF, so retro.
Pickle Rick and SMG4, keep your rizz memes what a snore!
>Pibby not greenlit >Already at bump limit.
I guess this sign off from Pibby is appropriate to post. It's unfortunate we probably won't ever see how it would all play out. The wholesome art and discussion of Pibby and Joe Pera was nice after the April Fools event.
Just dropping my 2 cents on this: There is clear interest in this Pibby thing on both sides and there is yet to be a "we dropped the pitch and don't care for it anymore" announcement, but production has never started for reasons that may or may not be obvious. I personally don't think it'll be a thing and I'm not exactly ecsatic or outraged about its current limbo status either, but theres a lot of shit going around it that could (or should) go wrong that would make it stink. I'd like for it to be metakino but I think it'll just be crossovershit
>liked by awestruck vox
Ew
Good.
>WHAT IF KID SHOW BUT ACTUALLY IT NOT FOR KID IT SCARY?
>WHAT IF OLD SHOW BUT HYPERREALISTIC BLOOD AND BIG BLANK SCARY EYES AND LOUD STATIC?
This would've been interesting in 2008 when creepy pastas were still a novel idea. Frick Pibby and frick analog horror and frick ARG horror and frick mascot horror
That is not what the show was gonna be like, it's only what the FNF creepypasta gays made it seem like
>FNF creepypasta gays
This is--or rather /was/ your entire fanbase, Pibbygay. Grow up.
>Grow up
>He says while posting on a board about comics and cartoons
What the frick are you talking about, we all saw the short, and if it wasn't representative of the show then what the frick was it going to be about?
The short didn't have a synopsis and that's where they really blew it, it just relied on showing cameos getting le heckin' corrupted without really explaining why
But judging from dialogue? Pibby was gonna be forced to grow up from her own kindergarten world and face shit she wasn't meant to see (i.e. the bleeding)
If that's what the show would've been like, then all the crossover slop would've only been superficial and could've been excused
exactly if it was presented with a drawn together-like premise with knock off characters subtly being nods to existing IPs, it could have been excused
but no it relied solely on the CN multiverse gimmick
it doesn't even make sense as a series!! it's literally a meme. a fun concept. she needs to come around every halloween or april fool's day with something new, that's it.
you need to go away, you're not helping
But I liked the Mengele Betamax catalog!?
I'm sure adult swim were eager to greenlight the show but didn't want to deal with the legal nightmare of dealing with all those copyrighted characters, they shot themselves in the foot by depending on other IPs.
aren't they owned by the same company?
hell wasn't Adult Swim built on this shit? (Sealab 2021, Birdman, Space Ghost Coast to Coast)
Yeah, but the show wanted to go beyond WB properties
Source? I don't remember them wanting to go beyond. If they dead they could simply trim it down.
the trailer showed Pibby visiting O-Town from Rocko and Bikini Bottom. the artists that worked on Pibby were goddamn braindead for thinking Nick would wanna collaborate with them on something like this
>the artists that worked on Pibby were braindead.
FTFY
They likely didn't intend for them to actually go to those places. It's not like we got to see the actual characters from those shows in the short. For all we know we could have gotten bootlegs but the backgrounds will be our cue to know 100% what show is being parodied. I don't think they would have had issues if they did it like that, but it's likely not anything too deep.
Take Ok KO as example. They did 1 just 1 crossover with older CN shows and had a lot of red tape to deal with. Now imagine that but is a full series and half of the character become ghouls.
>hell wasn't Adult Swim built on this shit? (Sealab 2021, Birdman, Space Ghost Coast to Coast)
No? Sealab, Space Ghost, Birdman, and all the shit on Birdman were all Hanna Barbera properties, owned by Warner Brothers. It's one thing to do cameos and frick around with characters you own that the writers have some level of respect for. It's another thing entirely to be some unproven schmuck going around asking other, far more popular and successful properties if you can violently butcher their characters to make your own look good.
It also should be noted all of those came out during a time when WB was clearly fricking around with the Hanna Barbera stuff more and they seem more protective of the IP now if Bird Girl is any indication
I mean, Billy & Mandy did it.
One thing is doing it for laughs and clever jokes
It's another completely different doing it for serious moments and no humor
You would be shocked by how fricked the US copyright system is.
You can’t just use characters you own, you have to go through the process of giving yourself the rights to use the characters, and even further, any sort of totality or co-ownership also needs to be negotiated. It’s stupid and makes no sense, but that’s America
Absolute moron.
Williams Street shows were
>You're airing reruns of these cartoons but we also want original programming. But very cheap.
>"Uhhh, can we repurpose old art?"
>Sure, but only as comedy. Don't take it really seriously or anything.
That is very different from having an original property that crosses over with old shit and is serious about it.
CN may own these properties, but they'd probably have to pay royalties to the showrunners, producers, possibly even writers every time they use them, just as they would have to pay every time they re-air something.
>have to pay royalties to the showrunners, producers, possibly even writers every time they use them, just as they would have to pay every time they re-air something.
And with the strikes it's just gonna get worse.
Maxwell Atoms explained a while back that for using a character from another department - like using Yogi or Fred Flinstone in Billy and Mandy - takes CNS paying a fee to the WB division to use their likeliness, depsite them all being under the same parent company. OKKO had a hurdle in their crossover. It's really dumb.
>takes CNS paying a fee to the WB division to use their likeliness
thats really stupid. i get there being checks in case of the IP being misused but why a fee lmao
back when those shows were on, WB was a lot less moronic
then they started telling venture bros 'no, you can't have johnny quest characters on your show' and any DC stuff like "no way you can't use (important DC characters), we're doing a movie with them later!" as if they think the characters are literally physical entities that can only be in one place at a time.
I'm wondering if the series bible also has things we haven't seen that the execs did.
Namely plot shit. The pitch and general idea for the show is good, right? But what the frick do you do with that in terms of a long form serialized plot where every episode is
>they end up in world of show you like
>Entity chases them and destroys the place about 5 minutes in
>They fight to survive and one or two survivors from whatever show is left
This thing just doesn't seem like it had much plot potential for a full season of television outside of a few episodes. Maybe if it were about how different worlds try to face the entity in different ways but that would both limit the crossovers and wear its welcome when you realize the entity operates by brute force as it overcomes things in a wave and every unique approach would be undone by this.
The hype around this was about the core concepts, yet no one really questioned how it would work in terms of a full fledged show.
The real factor you guys aren't looking at is how studios feel about crossovers. To highlight. Looney Tunes, and Flintstones. (And dear lord lets just hope the creators aren't looking to get something like DC)
If these characters are crossed over in ways where they aren't just clearly being parodied? Typically the teams and companies behind the more 'sacred' properties have huge rules around protecting their image in terms of how they're used, what they can do, what they can't.
Wreck-It-Ralph is an example where you can really see this. They had all the permissions to use these characters but the teams behind said characters and their portrayal still jumped in to say what could or couldn't be done and a huge impasse was just character heights during the support group scenes.
This, and I bet there was a lot of discussion over the idea of Zoomers not being media savvy enough to understand references to older properties. Millennials grew up with re-runs of cartoons like Tom & Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, etc. They'll understand what these characters are and can easily connect the dots.
Zoomers didn't grow up the same way. Can you carry a show like that for a newer generation? Maybe you could if these older characters were trending on tiktok or other relevant platforms but I don't believe you can carry a show like Pibby for a younger demographic.
So '98 myself and now I'm wondering. Did the popularity of Boomerang drop at some point?
I know it's now showing shit from when I was a kid like Teen Titans but that is a fairly recent development.
I'd argue that "early zoomer" were probably the key demo since we were the ones with the most balance in terms of old and new. Hell, we were the ones who grew up on the first wave of creepypastas where "game/show but something's wrong because supernatural shit " was the prominent trope.
In that regard, I'd say the problem is it's one of the hardest age groups to market to in general, having inherited the cynicism of their Gen X parents and actively mock the people older than them for falling for nostalgia based marketing
>Did the popularity of Boomerang drop at some point?
Some providers (ie. Comcast) have never even offered Boomerang.
Comcast used to offer Boomerang in some markets.
Anon Zoomers were raised on the internet, they probably have better media knowledge than millilails do.
They have been on the internet for a long time, but they only have knowledge of what the "algorithm" shows them. If it's not part of that fricked up tiktok or youtube algorithm, then they have no clue what it is.
Anon do you realize that the average Zoomer is in their 20s right? I think your conflating Gen Alpha with Zoomers again.
Yes, I'm aware of that. But I still think what I said is correct. These apps and the way their algorithms dictate what people see have a huge influence on zoomers and even gen alpha.
Shut up dad
Why would WB care how their own IP is handled when they've shown Fred as a mobster and Scoob getting high on one of their own shows?
Just sticking to WB and low key CN franchises with a mix of "off brand" WB properties would have been plenty.
Wow how shocking absolutely fricking zoomer child cringe concept did not get picked up.
>B-B-BUT THE PREMISE WAS AMAZING LE KNOWN CHARACTER BUT LE CREEPYPASTA CORRUPTION AND AND THEY'RE SAVED BY MARY SUE OC DOUGHNUT STEEL AND ALL THE LEGACY CHARACTERS CONSIDER HER THE GREATEST EVER AND EVERYONE WANTS TO BE HER BEST FRIEND KINOKINOKINOKINO
Said no one with more than two brain cells. The fact they even aired the pibby pilot on [AS] is fricking insulting. Its on par with [AS] airing that fricking moronic gmod animation I keep seeing be shilled by zoomers thats fricking garbage I watched two videos and would rather watch a back ally coathanger abortion in the third world.
Lmao no anon companies israelite each other hard especially if its a parent company or a subsidiary or frick even the same company but another country divisoin or just fricking another department in the same building. Corporate culture well boomer corpo culture is beyond fricking cringe self destructive and cancer.
>absolutely fricking zoomer child cringe concept
You don't come off as a mature yourself with this autistic string of words
Adult swim aired skibidi toilet?
They cant just parody IPs that arent owned by them?drawn together did that and it worked I dont get the issue.
Loses the entire point of doing the project at all if you use parodies
For once executives make a good choice, thank god.
shame, there was potential for some kingdom hearts-tier autism fun, oh well
Good. Homestuck fans should get to make nothing.
Why don't you just play Kingdom hearts, read The NeverEnding Story, and view other good stuff instead of begging for corporate slop that's just a shitty twist on those things
Matpat, Roundtable and all other YouTube prostitutes are having mental breakdowns that they lost their creepypasta theory ad revenue subject
KEK good no more Hazbin-tier terrible fandom
I'm sure they'll survive just fine without it, theory-bait horror fiction are a dime a dozen nowadays.
That subgenre only exists because of the newfound anxiety modern audiences have over asking questions. Blind obsession over mystery is a symptom of an overly obedient audience
Thank frick.
To be honest, it had potential if it focused more on a preschool character going through a meta existential crisis like Don't Hug Me I'm Scared. There was the chance it turned out bad, but it could have at least been interesting. What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty? This was a chance for them to try to be experimental again.
I enjoyed the idea of it being a meta-show in a literal "there is no pibby show" kinda way with the live stream they had, where the characters would hijack other shows. It seemed like it could be a fun experimental type of show adult swim would do.
Feels like these big black spook blobs are something that writers are forced to add to stories for ESG funding
>What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty?
Smiling Friends, Primal, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, that one Superman show, and I believe a new season of Aqua Teen Hunger Force is in the works. I think they'll be fine without Pibby, bro.
>Unicorn Warriors Eternal
Didn't people hate that?
No? It was such a success it was one of the reasons adult swim’s entire time slot got extended by two hours.
Uh, no. AS was getting an expansion regardless. UWE was a flop, meanwhile Superman was the highest rated original of AS this year
Do you actually believe this? Like unironically? Are UWEgays trying to change the narrative this badly?
It was a success although a lot of people found it sorta average with the plot going all over the place in a fricky manner by the end.
You can’t properly gauge reception to anything going off this site alone. Almost everything has gotten strong hate bases here because being contrarian and having bad faith reads for literally any story beat is the norm on here. Look anywhere else online and Unicorn was warmly received just as much as pretty much anything else released this year.
Even Reddit was giving it shit for just being dull, disjointed slop. But not too aggressively because it’s illegal to hold negative opinions towards Genndy. UWE was a miss. It aired and was forgotten immediately
>smiling friends
Won’t last long
>Primal
Trash
>UWE
Nope, was one season only
>Superman
True, S2 locked in and currently the best rated AS original in 2023
>ATHF
Won’t last, it was slipping in quality way back when they did the title change and the recent shorts showed they still don’t have it
>Primal
>Trash
Opinion discarded
>What else does Adult Swim have besides Rick and Morty?
They only have the superman show and unicorn as far as I know since primal Aqua teen hunger force and smiling friends are done.
DHMIS got lame as frick when it started lore baiting 300% more blatantly lore baiting, I felt relieved when yellow guy shredded the book
DHMIS got lame as frick when they decided to do 30 min episodes. What’s wrong with just the web series?
At least their original puppeton pilot politically commentating on UK Surveillance didn’t get picked up.
That’s another thing I really fricking hate. How dare you be a lore horror whatever AND POLITICAL?! Frick you, go back to scaring babies out of their money.
Doesn't help that the UK's films and TV have historically been either softly or overtly pro-fascist. V For Vendetta is the only anti-fascist British film
Right. I need to remember that this is under the lens of a UK perspective. Censorship is a real nightmare for them and DHMIS is taking advantage of their fury at it in a way only the British can. Cold, dry wit.
The show's actually amazing though
Meh, I only liked the songs, the main three, and Red Guy’s journey.
I just like the puppets. I wish I could make the, but I don't have the time or materials.
>when it started lore baiting
>I felt relieved when yellow guy shredded the book
congratulations that was the fricking joke, the "lore bait" was taking the piss out of people trying to overanalyse DHMIS
>This was a chance for them to try to be experimental again.
Insincere self-aware 4th wall breaking crossover meta fiction is the opposite of ‘experimental’. It’s rote and tiresome.
It's one of the creators of Pibby, they think they own other people's characters
But the billboard? The adult swim april fools prank? Why would you do those things for a show that hasn't been greenlit?
Yeah seems kinda odd.
They got Primal mainly. If you want to be generous theres Superman and Unicorn
I would have mentioned Primal but it is over now.
Its getting a third season.
That's unrelated to the previous 2. It's the Halloween III of the series
I don't think they've said if the whole season will be one story or every episode will be different. It could be really cool.
It will still suffer from mandated nihilistic endings for all stories
Checked, I like that. The original cast’s story is done, let’s bring in a new one.
I didn't know that it was getting another season. I do remember Genndy speculating on how it could look like but nothing official. I'm hesitant on a continuation but I'll see how it plays out.
It won't be a continuation, its going anthology.
Per season or per episode, we don't know yet.
They're working on the third season
Pre-Zaslav
Probably an experiment from the marketing department to further gauge interest? This could be another case like Korgoth the Barbarian where Adult Swim execs wanted to greenlight it but the costs were too high.
>Korgoth
Frick
Frick, indeed.
Not just the costs. I noticed that a lot of the humor was carried by that episode’s side characters and I’m not sure how it would’ve worked out in the other ones.
I’M GONNA SAY IT: Korgoth is the least compelling character in his own show. I found myself enthralled with the other characters just having their asses handed to them or being general weirdoes.
I get the idea that's intentional. Sort of a Mad Max setup where the story isn't really focused on the protagonist, but he keeps getting caught up in everyone's shit anyways. Korgoth not being greenlit was a damned shame.
It really, really was, but I’m saying that the problems don’t stop with costs of productions. As interesting as a premise that is, coming up with a new “everyone’s shit” is probably difficult to do and, unlike in Mad Max, make funny every time. Shit, would they have to have new voice talent every episode if it were green lit? New character designers?
Even Dave the Barbarian with a similar but toned down premise, legendary as it was, could only last one season. And that was with an established cast and the occasional guest star.
Ohhh. Yeah, okay, I can definitely see where you're coming from here. That would not be an easy production cycle in the least.
Marketing was going yes yes yes everyone else was going frick no please fire these social media addicts they're losing everyone billions of dollars on stupid shit they keep telling the suits will make them rich as frick when it reality people do not want woke trash tumblr trash or any other fanfiction trash their friends made. Frick me thank god for AI being able to read every piece of media about a topic and push out good IC OC or fricking around with it try and find stuff that isn't fully IC for X but works rather well rather than le subversion le "deconstruction" Le modern woke culture reimaging.
Did an AI write this post? Did you get enough buzzwords in or maybe wanna fit in a couple more?
AS April Fools pranks are usually low-budget shitposts, not sure what's up with all the kids thinking that was a sign the show was greenlit.
Anyone who actually watched that particular prank live and not the supercut knows it was EXTREMELY low effort and cheap.
You're insane if you think it would have ever survived the red tape Hell it would have had to go through.
Such as...?
Getting the rights to all the characters, for one. Not all of them are under the CN/AS umbrella, some might have reverted to the creators.
Apparently this
Not sure why they couldn't stay in their own lane but I could definitely see something like this causing some legal issues, since Adult Swim/Cartoon Network would definitely not have the rights to shit outside of those properties. Add on that it was going to involve violent, 'adult' depictions of the characters that the creators and original networks may have not approved of...well, it becomes very obvious where the problem would lie.
If this show couldn’t survive with original characters as a fill-in and solely had to rely on using existing properties to work and be shock value then this show and concept was absolute shit and it is the right decision to never let it get made
This. That's the only fricking reason it even has/had a following in the first place.
I literally never said that it wasn't the right decision to never let it get made. The show was always a tryhard disaster from day one. But tryhard disasters have gotten full seasons before, so it just being a bad idea isn't enough to explain why it won't get greenlit. Pibby has way more problems than just 'it's edgy and stupid', even if those are both very true.
I think the best way to put it is "Smash Bros Brawl and it's consequences."
Before that game, Roger Rabbit and shit was recognized as a living hell to make. Smash came along made it look fricking easy because the devs all knew each other and Japan is usually more lax about crossovers as promotional material.
So the solution is… Make Pibby a Anime?
Nah, Jap crossovers are typically all about crossover banter, crossover fights, crossover dynamics and a bunch of other fanservice-y stuff with the story being an excuse to get all these characters in the same room.
Usually, Japanese will nail it on the crossover shit in terms of giving what people came for but the bad stuff is when that shit ends up underwhelming like the infamous "Super Saiyan Blue vs Super Saiyan 4 beam clash" moment (or a lot of Dragon Ball Heroes)
>Japan is usually more lax about crossovers as promotional material.
Japan? Lax? The country that does not have the concept of fair use in its laws being lax about cross overs.
There was one time where the gambling girl manga author wanted to do an isekai crossover, with expies subbing for real manga characters. That was shut down and cancelled before the 2nd chapter.
I meant lax in terms of studios allowed to organize them. Granted even that has the catch that it usually has to be a video game, an OVA, or a 4-koma. It's an ad of sorts. Godzilla and Gamera can meet in all the stage shows and mobile phone games they want but never on the big scrrrn
I think this is one reason why 'Villainous' is struggling. It seems Alan is spending just a bit too much on cameos from other CN properties rather than actual worldbuilding.
Eh he seems to be doing world building in the extra stuff and the args. There's also the ongoing canon comic and stuff following that
Good. This shit was never a good idea.
It was at least a lot more interesting than a lot of the garbage happening on streaming sites
honestly that was probably a good idea on behalf of the weird butt group; not only would licensing be a hassle, it'd also kinda be a downer for anyone expecting full-on, no-f's crossover material only to get bootleg spunch bop
i think you can see that with the world of the totally not robin character "beta kid" where they avoided glitching off the DC characters because of their sacred cow-ness
>weird butt group
Nice.
They could have succeeded if they pitched it as "Harvey Birdman meets Adventure Time" but instead they had sniff their own farts and present it as being original
Even Harvey Bridman only used old, irrelevant Hanna-Barbera characters. Unless that’s what you meant?
Pippy should’ve used original parody characters. It’s not that hard to come up with them, is it?
>Pippy should’ve used original parody characters.
Frick's sake, this. Having some dollar-store knockoff brand versions of famous cartoon characters would have served the exact same purpose while also completely circumventing any legal issues. I can only assume that the people trying to make Pibby are either too prideful or too uncreative to do something like that, though, or it would have been that way from the start.
Not exactly, they still used Scooby, Flinstones and Jetsons, used all the same official actors and even made fun of all the stoner and drug theories. It will never happen now though.
>they avoided glitching off the DC characters because of their sacred cow-ness
not like DC treats them any better lol
I wouldn't mind knock offs of existing characters. It can be done well sometimes.
Yeah, "sometimes".
It's impossible to make a proper subversion of well known and established franchises in this modern era. It would never work.
No fricking shit. That show would've been a legal nightmare, and I guarantee it would not have been good or popular enough to justify it.
In any case, good riddance. Seems like some shitty edgy crossover an autistic 12 year old on deviantart would come up with. Judging from what the people who actually wanted this are like, I'm pretty sure I'm not too far off.
Well that's a shame.
F.
Oh well, the 3 people who cared about this will be devastated.
It's biggest issue was that it presented itself as original when it was not, and doubled down on it
I'm glad it's not being made. I would've been forced to hear about the "SCARY FACE CARTOON" for literal years. I bet some CN exec felt the same way about it and said frick that
How much can you really do with this concept anyway?
>Generic black substance CORRUPTS existing characters into EVIL!!!!
The online looks seemed to indicate a metaphor for online fandom culture and how it effects shows or whatever. Yet I don't think it really had a plan for that beyond
>Fandoms can be mean or whatever
Its like one of those optical illusion paintings that looks really deep but is actually flat
Corruption is lame pleb stuff, the smart choice would be to have such a substance trigger uncontrollable mutation or jumpstart evolution
Like it hits George Jetson, and he becomes fome kind of super alpha male that seems great at the time, but slowly morphs him into either a monster or a dictator who controls everything in the Jetsons show?
I started that as a joke, but it sounds like fun. It'd be unique too, since it wouldn't be "BOO SCARY!" and more like actiony and drama.
I actually like this much more. Here, it seems like it could work as a metaphor for producers trying to modernize old series, but instead destroying their charm. Much better than a vague "fandoms ruin stuff goo".
Ooh.
These questions concerning plot were raised for Don't Hug Me I'm Scared and look how it turned out. Each episode followed a formula of a teacher and spooky shit happening to the puppets. Since Pibby was just a short pilot there was the chance the final product would be different. DHMIS added more comedic elements to the show compared to its web episodes. Who knows what they could have added to make a full show work.
I feel like this show is only made so that it could hoard certain creative concepts to claim as its own
Like crossovers? Nobody can really claim that concept.
This show was not going to be a comedy. DHMIS was always a comedy
>This show was not going to be a comedy.
We don't know that. All we have is a short, and a pitch bible that could easily become out dated. Look at the pitch bible's for a bunch of other shows that ended up completely different when it premiered. This happens all the time.
>DHMIS was always a comedy
The show yes. The original shorts and scraped pilot no.
>scraped pilot
Did you really want a political DHMIS show?
It wasn’t anymore political than the love episode.
It’s a slippery slope.
Nah it was supposedly about UK government surveillance.
Oh yeah, that’s an actual problem.
No it isn't, unless you have something to hide.
Everyone does, that’s why it’s a problem.
DHMIS is very clearly a horror comedy. 2, 3, and 4 especially.
DHMIS also plays with more surreal stuff instead of bizarre. The actual plot pieced together over time but it mostly revolved around the commentary and the puppets were allowed to flat out die episode to episode.
This wouldn't be allowed to do that, it's a continuing story with an at least somewhat serialized narrative from step one.
There was a theory that the glitch was a metaphor for the streaming service killing cartoons.
dont lie and say you wouldnt have liked it like all the other shows this place likes to """hate"""watch
Trvthbomb
The writing was on the wall all this time so this isn't even a surprise
But it doesn't matter anyway, by this point the homosexuals who care still will make their own pibby series if [as] will not do it
>by this point the homosexuals who care still will make their own pibby series if [as] will not do it
>Implying
I think that one of the real reasons it wasn't greenlit was the behavior of Pibby's creators, that they possibly tried to claim ownership of the pre-existing show's ideas and characters
Can I see some sauce on that? Because that sounds fricking hilarious. Sounds exactly like what I'd expect from the people who made this tripe.
They are autistic and some of them are talented so it's a matter of time now
No, not when they're all hard programmed to have the same thoughts
I mean...
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That's content farm shit it doesn't count
It really is a shame Pibby got overrun by clickbait youtuber content because that shit definitely altered people's perception of what the show could've actually been but oh well
>Content farm
Those exist for a variety of topics. They are currently trying to leech off Skibidi Toilet.
sorry nerds, DeMarco is too busy using Adult Swim's budget to fund anime
There's no good reason for this to not have aired on Cartoon Network itself, it's about as "mature" as some of the darker episodes of Gumball, the only thing that makes it more "adult" is that it has slightly more blood.
>Implying any other show on adult swim is truly mature
unicorn and superman
only reason they're on AS is because CN is moronic but they would've had no issue fitting right in
>60 replies
>28 posters
>only replying to posts that are over a certain word count or reaffirm past talking points
>OH MY GOD PEOPLE ARE HAVING A DISCUSSION IN A THREAD AAGGHHHHH SAMEgay SAMEgay SAMEFA
endeth thineself
Well when they're repeating the same two things, does that sound unique to you?
What point are you even trying to make here? You could make this argument about any fricking Cinemaphile thread.
That idea is now are mandated, manually vetted. This whole show is based off the "edgy" content mandates
anon please take your meds
>What point are you even trying to make here?
that there’s a nut who goes into pibby threads to samegay and shit on it
Interdasting. Seems like we got a looney for every thread at this point.
>Its over
It never began in the first place
You just doodled this?
Nah,
and
are drawings i made here when Adult Swim dropped the trailer
well too bad, better luck next time
Oh right the darkness was supposed to be internet slang
And that the internet was the ones corrupting everything
I forgot about that detail, and now even more glad that they aren't moving forward with it
I hate it when media tells me that I am the problem for following my instincts and consuming it properly. I think it started with Undertake.
Spec Ops The Line did it before that
And lo and behold Spec Ops is being praised as a masterpiece by zoomers because of that
Yes, but I’m sure it wasn’t a complete wimp about it. I never played it, but it looks mature enough to show you that war happens and you need to be an adult about the killings.
I also just can’t stand the compete homosexualry from Undertale, it feels like I’m being lectured by a vegan about killing in an RPG.
>it feels like I’m being lectured by a vegan about killing in an RPG
kek that's an great analogy
Thank you. I think these horror stories are all being spearheaded by vegan-type mentalities. They want to spook you with white guilt instead of something truly scary, like transgender surgeries.
Honestly playing Spec Ops The Line blind for the first time gives more of impact than undertale just because the morality isn't so Black and White
Some people say the game finger wags the people who play it. Like "How dare you enjoy a fictional first person shooter!?". Other people say its not judging you, but giving you something to think about. Like we're supposed understand we aren't the player character, but we're supposed to sit back and contemplate how war is ugly and brutal.
>war bad, killing bad
How deep... I'll be thinking about this for days...
And somehow did it better, despite giving the player no choice in how the story progressed.
Undertale was mocking you for being a completionist and not engaging with the media you consume critically.
Frick you, Undertale. I bought 100% of the game, why shouldn't I play 100% of the game?
This
Fricking vegans and their resistance to manifest destiny. That’s what this is, man’s a naturally curious creature that wants to explore everything and every avenue in every way, but vegans will go up to then and say “NUH UH, MUH STUPID ANIMALS” then come up with ways that are worse for the environment just to feel like they’ve finally won against someone.
>He doesn't engage in video games organically.
>Probably looks up guides.
Cringe.
>mocking you for being a completionist and not engaging with the media you consume critically.
kek.
>People still think Undertale was actually mocking/lecturing them about completionism and not just doing metanarrative in 2023
Wew
They aren't wrong tho, pibby itself was corrupted by the web now people only know it as part of fnf's autism
Good. I love it when the “bad guy” wins.
Undertale was a mistake, I agree 100%
Especially when the “bad guy” is a poorly written caricature.
Another problem with undertale/deltarune is that they literally worship an angel in that universe THAT IS SATAN! TOBY FOX’S IPS ARE SATANIC IN NATURE. I CAN’T FRICKING BELIEVE IT. A israelite IS PROMOTING SATANISM, YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP.. I hope chapter 3 never comes. I can’t handle the autism
>"nothing personal pibs"
>*steals her show*
>Show pitch wasn’t even good enough to survive being overtaken by FNF
Pibby is now right where it belongs; in the throes of children.
FNgays are insane
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Well that looks better than your usual content farm channel
What kind of autism drives a man to use his skills in animation to produce something like this thing
>*Mutes the videos*
Now it's watchable
I really hope I live long enough to witness what children who grew up watching and playing this shit will become
They're going to be mentally irreparable, but it's gonna be a laugh-riot to see them crumble, that's for sure.
It's gonna be a trainwreck for civilization
Or not, it all ultimately depends how they behave in the high school years
some will become internet weirdos clinging to their fleeting relevance, some will go on to become the next generation of industry names, and the rest will drop off this side of the internet and live repetitively normal lives.
same as its always been
I fully respect the creators here. If you're gonna be autistic as frick, you should have the balls and the talent to be awesome about it, too.
Same. Even if it's not my preference, the effort is demonstrably impressive.
Just like fetish porn.
I want to fricking die after watching.
>Doih
What the frick does that even mean
The whiplash of tone deafness this shit would have is insane with stuff like that
Multiverse/crossover shit has quickly surpassed time travel as the fastest way to make me dismiss something as worthless shlock.
>dude 4th wall humor and multiverse bullshit finally dying
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
>millions of views (literally 33 million)
>the top 4th most viewed video on adult swim's channel
>tons of fanart
>already has fan songs, game mods, fan fiction, animations
>no greenlight despite there already being a massive fanbase constantly waiting for new news like vultures
I don't get it. Even if you don't like it, it's not hard to see that this already has franchise potential and could literally be the next big show they make it. It's already highly anticipated by the people that do like it. What is stopping them from making this is a show? It's art style makes it cheap as hell to produce and logically any executive should be having fricking dollar eyes popping out of their head in this situation. Are they just stupid?
>checks notes
Oh right. This is warnermedia we're talking about, the same people who cancel a bunch of shit and are literally causing cartoon network to fall. I guess they just really don't want their buisness to be successful...
Frick off, zoomer. Your shitty creepypasta is not getting greenlit.
Piss off.
It simple really
It would been just a massive embarrassing mess like Loonatics Unleashed but for [as]
>Implying isn't one already
Who's gonna pay for all the royalties for utilizing people's IPs? Who's gonna pay all the lawyers who need to navigate the legal shithole this show would be? Who's gonna deal with potential lawsuits? What if I file a class-action lawsuit against this nonsense and stop it dead in its tracks? Think beyond your instant gratification, zoomer.
>What if I file a class-action lawsuit against this nonsense and stop it dead in its tracks?
Are you implying you wouldn't immediately get dismissed by a judge? You are just a literal who.
>noo you can't make a cartoon about other IPs even though warner has a frick ton of IPs to utilize
It was pretty obvious from the teaser they never intended to use anything outside of their brand
That was one episode
dude it literally costs nothing for warner and by extension the pibby creators to use the characters
I guess not. It also doesn’t cost anything to be vaccinated for Covid
The hypothetical expies of all the classic WB characters could potentially be more interesting than the originals if they're written well enough. They made one original property ("pibby" itself), why not simply make more? Brand recognition? That doesn't matter at all for a story like this, it's about the archetypes of the characters and what you do with them, which will be the same even if they're dollar store knockoffs.
Why can't we get some autistic homosexual CEO that'd greenlight fun and experimental shit like this? Everything's so bland and tired now; I'd like to see some wacky stuff like a Flintstone's action RPG, a Johnny Quest Souls Like, and a Jetson's FPS where you shoot robots with cartoony future guns/sound effects.
>reusing old IPs
>for modern trends
>experimental
>and fun
Seriously, just make expies or original shit.
Personally, I've never hated reusing old IPs or trend chasing. My issue is they're always cynically done or basic b***h ideas. Something like "Uhh...Flintstones cartoon, but everyone's an butthole, Barney's black, and we'll push a heavy agenda. People will love it!" and never anything fun.
>they have the resources, they just don't want to produce it
Based CEOs denying zoomercringe
Don't forget they actually spent money to do an April Fools joke, and bought a billboard advertising this. What a waste of money if this wasn't going to be anything.
this entire premise would have been a legal nightmare if it relied solely on crossovers
it was fricked since day 1
You remind me of the zoomer gays clamoring for Infinity Train lol
Adult Swim always had limited funds. For example, Venture Bros took a long time to produce due to the budget they had. There is a reason why they always did cheaper productions like Aqua Teen Hunger Force and 12 Ounce Mouse. Right now the most money they are pouring into is Rick and Morty since it is their current flagship. Dodge said the show just hasn't been greenlit instead of being rejected. Maybe the network wants to wait for a time where they can have enough money to fund Pibby. The licensing fees will probably take up most of the budget. I wouldn't be surprised if other factors like the strike played a part, but there is no way to know for certain.
>Roundtable
You can tell they gave up on the whole industry after kids networks went back to episodic comedies and every project to milk got cancelled or passed by the networks.
I'm moronic because I've always thought this concept would be better for an adventure game. You're a cartoon character, but you have to leave your world to fight some kind of corruption, and along the way you meet up with classic cartoon characters from a variety of IPS.
So, Kingdom Hearts, but you can have Fred Flintstone in your party.
>Bro WB's characters are all technically public domain
It's okay.
They still have Skibidi Toilet.
That's alpha gen anon
Just looked it up and I'm glad it's cancelled. It's horrible.
I never understood the desire for it to be an actual series. I thought it worked well as just an amusing trope-y CN/WB joke for April Fools.
>B-B-BUT MUH LORE
WHAT LORE?! It’s blob…and it corrupts. Who the frick can care about this lore except complete autists and greedy Youtubers?
It’s honestly reminiscent of an amusement park halloween ride where we just move from show to show
I just straight up don’t understand the premise
>a blob is corrupting the shows
Ok? Everything is just more staticy, what threat is happening?
Did anyone ever answer this? What did the blob do? Does it just corrupt things? Do corrupted things die? Is this some of that homosexual stuff where writers are too afraid to explain their bullshit, so they go "its SCARIER if we leave it ambiguous!"?
The show died when properties started to get written off by Zaslav.
This. Exactly this.
Anything which wasn’t Rick and Morty or Adventure Time was almost certainly cancelled.
Heck, they even cancelled and wrote off the Regular Show spin-off, WBD literally don’t care
well then what the frick was the point of the april fool's stuff?
The only thing autists love more than trains or sonic the hedgehog is crossovers. Massive crossovers where everything crosses over with everything else. I never understood it myself.
>Massive crossovers where everything crosses over with everything else. I never understood it myself.
Autist here. I see the appeal, seeing all your favorite characters in one place and imagining how'd they'd interact is really interesting to me. I guess it's an extension of autists being obsessed with lore.
No understanding of nuance.
More of thing I like = better.
In small doses and done appropriately it's fun
In massive doses and done sloppy like Pooh's adventure its like a schizophrenic dream
>Creepypasta: The show won't be greenlit
Thank God, did people actually thought this show was going to actually be made? Maybe back in the early 2000s but nowadays?
Don't Hug Me I'm Scared got picked up for a show, and everyone fricking loved the first season. Even Cinemaphile. It's not unusual to think Pibby could get picked up nowadays.
Good because edge without restraint fricking sucks. Read Crossed or The Boys to see how bad it can get.
DHIS is original content though, Pibby requires a shitton of already licensed characters. That's why it worked.
>142 replies
>58 posters
Pibby is just safe and corporate edgy it would have never been something memorable apart of maybe tackle the idea of "death of innocence"
>"Yeah because seeing cartoons getting mauled to death is so entertaining"
Says the edgy gay
This art REEKS with troony
>unhinged facial expression
>gross hairstyle
>gore
You’re not wrong, but that’s not the first thought to come to my mind. Edgelord shit is more like it.
Beat up the pib
>memorable apart of maybe tackle the idea of "death of innocence"
Ironic, because a concept like this can only come up by innocent kids who don't understand what is mature content
Not a surprise at all, I know autists on the internet were clamoring for it to get made but I highly doubt any of the creators of CN shows wanted their characters involved in this
>but I highly doubt any of the creators of CN shows wanted their characters involved in this
Not like they had any choice in the matter besides the guy who made Ed, Edd n Eddy.
Good riddance. The premise sounds like something from a 13-year-old's CN fanfiction, it was only meant to be an April Fool's gag and nothing more.
Thank goodness, though the DOOM parody idea was cute.
If I had the time I would make a Doom conversion mod with Pibby.
TIME TO PARTY, COPE SEETHING ZOOM gayS LMAO
He didn't say it was outright cancelled. It seems like Adult Swim might not be in a good position to green light this show right now, and things kept coming up.
>There was the strikes this year that began in March and only ended recently at the end of September. Delayed a lot of productions in the process.
>Company merger likely slowed down the execs from making a greenlight decision while Zaslav looked over the assets of the company for tax write-offs.
>Covid slowing things down.
>There is the other AS projects they been working on which likely took up the money they could have used to kickstart production for Pibby like Primal or Rick and Morty.
If nothing comes out of this in a few more years then it is safe to say it is done. However, there is a clear interest from AS if they were willing to use Pibby for April Fools and buy a billboard. Adult Swim announced the Uzumaki adaptation since 2019 and we barely got an update on it this year after production delays. Pibby will likely be a while unless nothing is going on to prevent AS. Their only obstacle should be licensing if things were better.
Giga copium. Uzumaki had yearly updates, they were always “next year” but we never were in the dark longer than that. More importantly, Uzumaki actually did have the greenlight before all those delays. Pibby has always been a short and nothing more
>muh April fools
Have you seen how uninspired April fools has been the past few years? Having a cheap idea to use for a year was convenient, not some grand setup for Pibby to be made
Don’t forget that Uzumaki also has an established plot, fanbase, and adaptability. It would be foolish not to air it. how can I watch for free?
I wouldn't be surprised if Pibby hasn't been picked up is because of distribution of resources. Adult Swim already pours a lot of money into Rick and Morty, and for Genndy Tartakovsky to produce two action heavy cartoons. That is not mentioning the develop of the Venture Bros movie which was always an expensive show to make for AS. They probably haven't gave the greenlight due to not having a good time to secure the money needed for licensing or whatever we could expect out of the production for Pibby.
A show about a cute and kiddie character being tortured physically and emotionally?
Who would watch such a thing?
What is Happy Tree Friends
Happy Tree Friends did it for comedy. All the characters would come back unharmed, and the gore was cartoony and ironically childish in how gratuitous or over the top it was.
Pibby's different. It was meant to be serious, but a lot of people just want to see the cute main character tortured. I'll be honest, I can't stand gore gays for that reason.
Bruh, way to prove the point that original characters beat crossover slop. Gumball and Drawn Together renders pibby redundant
There's Happy tree friends for funny suffering and Pretty Blood for unfunny suffering
>Pretty Blood
DHMIS, but the difference is DHMIS' fanbase doesn't go BRO WOULDN'T IT BE SO COOL IF FREDDY FAZBEAR SHOWED UP?
>reverse image search artist
>south park fujo
Only way this could've gotten made is if it was a more kid-friendly Cartoon Network special commissioned for their anniversary or something
As a full-on TV-MA adult series that wanted to use Scooby-Doo and Gumball and shit, it never had any chance
I dont even Pibby that much but.
I dont get it why do this in the first place then
What is AS end game here?
Where was this billboard anyway? In Atlanta somewhere?
HAHAHAHA GOOD RIDDANCE
The amount of sheer seething in this thread is wild even for you guys.
they werent kidding about the autism. just look at this thread!
So does AS have anything worthwhile on the horizon? It seems like Smiling Friends is the only show that's carrying the block at the moment.
Apparently Primal season 3 is happening. Also, Adult Swim will finally be able to air their adaptation of Uzumaki by Junji Ito on Toonami.
FRICKING A, looking forward to Uzumaki and the 2.5 D animation. Show these vegan pea-brains what real horror is.
The frick? Why would they do that dumb ad campaign for a show that wasn't even greenlit.
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>Verification not required.
Why did it fail?
Read the thread
Should've gone the parody route.
Wonder how the creator feels about stuff like this, 43 minutes out of his pilot short
It doesn’t matter what “route” the damn thing took, either way it would’ve been taken over by gen alpha and would’ve become the same as Skibidi, only worse. The autism of this pitch is unsalvageable.
Imagine having a show pitch that's already gone massively viral multiple times before a single episode was ever even made, has basically infinite marketing and merchandising potential, and not picking it up because you "know better."
It seems like the modern entertainment industry has basically become an endless circle of people telling you exactly what they want to buy, and then executives ignoring it and hocking other things nobody wants.
Isn't that they "know better", is that the possible fallout and costs of making this a real thing will not be beneficial in the long run and
realistically how many people are going to actually watch it and like it?
I feel the “trendyness” of pibby is over now, so it wouldn't do as well with the youtube zoomer audience, but i can imagine it getting a sizeable amount of "ironic hate watchers" like a lot of shows get.
>It's not that they know better, it's that they know better! They know it won't be profitable before it even gets made even though it's already had the kind of exposure and success companies pay thousands of dollars in marketing to get
Are you literally on the WBD executive board?
They do know better though. Do you think some executive just said "I won't greenlight this because I'm old and dumb, haha massive L for us boomers again" without having a bean counter run the numbers? The premise of the show demands ridiculous licensing costs that would surely have outweighed the potential revenue.
Gee, it's like if the 2000's edge scared a lot of companies to be pussies
Anon, This was dead in the water the moment they turned it into a “Kingdom Hearts” crossover thing
Because on one hand, nobody will give a frick about Walmart Robin or Walmart Ursula if you put them next to Fred Flintstone or Steven Universe.
But on the other hand, They would have to get all those legal rights to use the characters and that’s never going to happen, (especially since they use SpongeBob as part of the teaser, AS ARENT GETTING THE RIGHTS TO SPONGEBOB FOR NICK, especially for a modern take on “What if cartoon… but BAD!!!!” horror stories of the mid to late 2000s.
It’s a lose-lose situation.
>It's dead in the water because I, personally, don't like it.
Do you like it? Kingdom Hearts, but worse with original characters on one cares about?
I think it deserves a chance to prove itself, and it's certainly proved it resonates with people.
You have too much faith anon
>trannies
>zoomer growing up on YouTube
>loregays
>people
How would you even merchandise for this?
FNF and most indie horror did it pretty easily, why can’t LWP?
Shit like FNF, FNAF and other "zoomer" properties print money in bulk.
Fair point.
Read his statement again.
Pibby was already built upon an unrealistic expectation that IPs owned by competing entities can be featured as an integral part of one show.
Sure, multiversal crossovers happen - but among IPs of a single owner.
>Because on one hand, nobody will give a frick about Walmart Robin or Walmart Ursula if you put them next to Fred Flintstone or Steven Universe.
You're wrong because people love Sora. The same goes for Ralph from Wreck-It Ralph for the first film. He was surrounded by characters like Sonic and Bowser yet he was still a liked protagonist audiences didn't ignore. There is also Roger and Eddie from Who Framed Roger Rabbit. They were in the presence of legendary characters like Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse.
I don't think you can use Ralph, we only got relatively brief crossover appearances, everything else was mostly original stuff.
And we didn't even get Mario.
I pretend the second movie didn’t happen except there was a trailer with a bunny getting the pancakes. That’s just too hot to ignore. Fricking cowards cut it out of the film and now there’s just nothing noteworthy about it. So why bother remembering it?
>Missing the point that hard
No one is going to be upset at Pibby and her OC crew jumping into universes. Let me take your examples and spin them to where they match what would have to happen.
Sora, instead of going to Frozen, and interacting with Elsa and Anna, would instead go to the Snow Queen world and meet Gerta and the Snow Queen. Ralph wouldn't be alongside Sonic and Bowser, he's alongside Mach Hedgehog and the Turtle King. For Roger Rabbit, instead off all the classic Warner and Disney characters, you'd instead see Rickey Rabbit, and Michael Mouse.
The draw of a crossover fiction is being able to see a character you know in a new light, or interacting with things they normally wouldn't. If all the crossover stuff is knockoffs with the serial numbers filed off, it loses that draw.
Your media is trash if the validity of the licenses is all that matters.
>Sora, instead of going to Frozen, and interacting with Elsa and Anna
I know what you're trying to say but Sora hardly even interacted with the Frozen characters last I remember.
I think one of the biggest jokes about Frozen's world is how they legitmately just had Sora in the background half the time and they even had Elsa do the entirety of Let it Go when no other world got a musical number.
Weren't the developers kneecapped by Disney in that regard? There's a rumor going around of there being an Elsa boss fight that was planned, and she'd have created that ice castle part, but that got shitcanned because the Disney/Pixar said no.
Most likely
Honestly the entire section of the game scream "Disney Meddling" with the entire "Let it go" song being the biggest tell.
I thought anon's point I was replying to was that having a protagonist who is an original character would have them be outshined by the character who comes from an established IP. They argued that people would not care about the original character to drive the plot so long as they see those established characters on screen when we know that is not true.
executives use companys as personal toys a lot of the time. its half of the reason behind corporate meddling, with the other half being executives wanting to make more money by following data rather than whats good
It’s got no substance. It’s just characters either running from or being consumed by a thing. The characters themselves either already being established or hollow archetypes.
Ok, lest say that by some miracle a executive gives it a chance and announces it
The sheer amount of expectations that will not be meet will just break the "novelty" of the show
>Imagine having a show pitch that's already gone massively viral multiple times before a single episode was ever even made
On that basis, you might as well just go and watch Skibidi Toilet like everyone else.
>L
ok moron zoomie, the one without his shitty cartoon here is you
thats the biggest "L" you morons like to phrase and belongs to you
the same garbage with at least more content has been done to death already, we don't need more "LEEE CUTE BUT EDDGYY CARTOOON" shit you homosexuals like to eat, & most of the zoomers have eaten the tidepods, that doesn't mean it's good
It’s like Ruby Gilman.
Did anyone care about that outside of the couple gays who wanted a new lesbian couple to obsess over?
Considering the parody character they did make for the pitch… Yea, that’s not a good idea either
>because it just removed half of its relevant ideas.
I mean, the whole connected cartoon multiverse between all the showing WAS the whole idea, so without idea, it’s just a basic zombie show but with a glitchy blob instead of flesh eating corpses.
I meant like the original story was good before those idiots butchered it, turning into a basic,dull story
>Considering the parody character they did make for the pitch… Yea, that’s not a good idea either
Who?
Pibby. Her design is too bland
Fricking Beta Kid and the Drawn Together looking ass Cat from the pitch bible.
>le autism
Says the anons on the comics and cartoon board
The Pibbygays seething at the company because they don't understand basic legal and financial maneuvering is hilarious
When you realize you'd have to pay money to people EVERY SINGLE TIME you push out an episode because they legally need to be paid royalties for the use of their characters, YES EVEN THEIR SETTINGS, you understand why even the most braindead of network CEOs wouldn't pick this slop up.
It’s still sad. I liked the concept, but they could have used parody’s of the characters
This seething is delightful
pibby gays everywhere are going nuclear at these news and it's amazing
Any links to particularly funny meltdowns?
nta but here
https://twitter.com/Mari0haraZONE/status/1709297933802180848
Geez, those are some lethal levels of autism all over this spergfest. I'm actually having much harder time scrolling through this than through gore threads.
It’s a joke post, anon.
https://twitter.com/WavePrism_/status/1574759718865829888
Autism in its purest form, which its usual in deviantart but weird in twitter
If you can't tell that this is a shitpost then the only autist here is you
What a sad, sad copout.
expected, many of these guys are massive autismos who really loved this whole ordeal
Pibby was actually meant to be a show? That wasn't just shitposting?
That's probably for the best. A movie or a mini-series seems like the best route.
At this pace not even that is going to be left for pibby
the zoomer war between the cringeoids and the "not-like-other-zoomies"
killling pibby is a godsend, it prevented more people like this to exist
https://twitter.com/TheRealNeoThe/status/1708534894043828256
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Don’t get me wrong, I would have loved to have seen a new cast getting their shit kicked in every episode by this unstoppable force. That’s an impracticality I can get behind, way better than just having characters avoid being swallowed up by a whatever.
Those tweets clearly show she's joking, no one is this dense.
typical shonen moron
I would have preferred Pibby over Velma.
>Autism cringe zoomer cringe autism autist zoomer cringe cringe
Can you frickers act like actual free-thinking adults and not older sibling NPCs?
You were already told why this show wasn't feasible little bro, but clearly financial and legal terms are too big for your pea brain, so we have to resort to speaking to you this way.
What other opinion do you want on this shitshow?
Let's just call spade a spade.
i personally love pibby im just trashtalking it just to make discussions and post some art i found in these years
That pic really makes LWP look like a budget Gumball.
Actually, it looks like a budget version of a bootleg Gumball.
fair enough g
>i love pibby
others also love her anon
this is a thread for tourists from twitter, what do you expect
There will always be gays who love to be condescending twats.
finding randos on twitter to make fun of is infinitely more autistic than anything to come out of pibby
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I feel like we dodged a bullet here. Pibby wasn’t even a real series and the fandom was already really bad. It probably would have been brony-tier if it actually got greenlit.
Im surprised they didnt instantly greenlight this while DUDE 4TH WALL AND MULTIVERSES AND NOSTALGIA's still hot but I thank them
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I liked Pibby
....why don't they just pitch it as web comic instead or just take the IP elsewhere?
i can see this maybe working on comedy central much more
Thought the same
>Pibby takes on the artstyle of whatever show/universe she’s in
Now THAT would be a Kino idea
It would be the best justification for its existence, but it has to be the most impractical thing I can imagine. No way would these lazy asses go through with it.
Its like Kingdom Hearts, but somehow even more autistic.
No 'Craig of the Creek'?
Jake Neutron about to kill himself.
If licensing was an issue why not stick to Adult Swim properties for the first season? That way they wouldn't have to worry about the stupid bureaucracy involved in using characters from other companies under Warner Bros.
That's why I think staff behavior was the bigger problem
I think it's the reasons listed here
. Movies get stuck in development despite getting greenlights due to small or big events going on around production.
I doubt it had anything to do with staff. Maybe changes in leadership? Some shows don't get the same enthusiasm if a new exec gets put in charge.
If there's one thing the theories surrounding the DT2017 cancellation taught me, it's that we want it to be unprofessional staff behavior because we love the idea of staff behavior being the reason for cancellation when the show runner has a particular level of autism about the properties they're working.
There's just something extremely funny about the idea of that one fan living their dream making that level of official fanfiction, only for the studio to decide they're fricking annoying and drop the hammer
It didn’t end properly? I agree with you.
The number one theory on here around it's cancellation, at least at the time, was that Frank Angones was just so insufferable for his bosses that they didn't wanna work with him anymore.
He looks insufferable just googling him
Because then that taints those properties as well.
> "But imagine the red tape...!"
...so just make parodies the same way other franchises make parodies/bootlegs - have her meet the Fleenstoans, Dooby Don't, Mick & Rorty, Cstman & Canary...
>the Fleenstoans
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>Narrative's shifted from 'this is clearly just the CEOs being moronic, Pibby is a great idea!'
to
>W-Well, they should just make... bootlegs!
Suddenly there's no point watching the show, because it just removed half of its relevant ideas.
Wait if it wasn’t greenlit why did the trailer show up on the official youtube for Adult Swim
The only way I could see this working is if
A. They used parodies of cartoon characters instead of the actual characters (except maybe very old and obscure Hanna Barbara characters if they really wanted some crossover) and
B. The corrupting “glitch” turned characters into mean-spirited parodies of themselves instead of generic zombies.
The latter can be used as a metaphor on how fans want to force darker themes onto shows that don’t need them and even provide commentary on how Adult Swim got successful turning old child-friendly characters into buttholes
>They used parodies of cartoon characters instead of the actual characters
Pic related was cancelled in Japan. In US legal land, a crossover of Pibby's scale is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
You're a fricking moron, Japan has far more restrictive copyright laws than the USA. Something like Robot Chicken could never exist in Japan.
People like him just project things they like onto Japan. No matter how nonsensical it is to people who actually know about Japan. Like the anti consumerists who say we need to be like Japan, which is possibly the most consumerist country there is.
I've seen people do this with race, too. People will say "I can't wait to get to Japan so I can be free of nogs and crime!" but in Japan, they'll treat any outsider like a Black person. You can live a good life in Japan, though. Just move with friends, buy a beautiful piece of land, and understand that most Japanese people will never accept you as a Japanese citizen.
I've said it once, I've said it a dozen times, I'm saying it, again.
Pibby's main problem is that it's being released too late. If it came out 15 years ago, it would have been AMAZING. If it came out 10 years ago, it would have been cool. But alas, Pibby made its debut when "meta-fiction" was already so commonplace that it's basically its own genre. In a world where every media company is trying to do its own Cinematic Universe or "Ready Player One" kitchen sink setting, Pibby just isn't interesting to modern audiences.
You're speaking of quality though. You're completely correct, but quality has very little to do with success. Pibby might have been a hit 15 years ago, or it might have been too extreme and subversive for the time, because popularity is determined by how digestible something is for the masses. Pibby basically ONLY would be a massive hit nowadays, for the exact same reasons that the quality would suffer.
>You're speaking of quality though.
No, I was referring to originality.
I mean, the IP is just other IPs but changed. It's not original. It could be the first ever of it's kind and it would still be inherently derivative.
I could see it being a massive hit in the early 2010s
Good. In this day and age these kind of fricks would want a TV show series made of Too Many Cooks.
What makes using the characters for this unfair but robot chicken is fine?
Because Robot Chicken is satiate/mockery, and that’s allowed by copyright laws.
Pibby could count as parody tho
Not while using FRED MF FLINTSTONE
And that is a problem too
I love how desperate Pibbygays are getting to try and push this crap, in the hopes the executives change their mind
First you people want it a serious edgekino creepypasta, next you wanted bootleg characters, now you're trying 'b-but Pibby is satire!'
Maybe you guys need to latch onto Skibidi Toilet or something, that must soothe your autism.
Why do you make it sound like this is a collective opinion that is shifting and not multiple people with their own perspective on the matter? Are you lurking this thread to autistically talk shit?
Yes, I believe Pibbygays have a sort of hive mind and they shift whenever one take is debunked.
The inverse is assuming they’re all brain dead who can’t bother to understand they’re destroying the premise of the show with their vain attempts to bypass the several hurdles, and I would rather give you all the benefit of the doubt here.
That’s not how parody law works. It’s not a free pass to use other IPs just cause you claim you are taking the piss
And each skit was SECONDS long, two to three minutes maximum. You’re asking for a whole show with characters, motivations, and storylines that execs can’t just give to some alog horror schlock
If the show was never greenlit this whole time why did Dodge wait this long to say so?
Huffing copium that his greenlight was right around the corner probably
kek
Shit, I could go for a steak burger right about now.
>Animation being dumped to save money
>homosexual Writer's strike kicked off a market contraction, meaning less shows being made with fewer episodes
It never had a chance
It never had a chance long before those things happened, Rush troony
Go frick a cactus, Rush is fun
the whole idea was shit from the get go
looks like saner heads prevailed this time, which is unusual. (I also hope this guy and all his friends NEVER get a show, they suck on a fundamental, underachieving, loser level)
So is this a case where it can still be picked up or one of those weird situations where its locked or something?
From the sound of it, this is a case where it can be but it is not a priority to the execs. He would have said if it was outright rejected like so many other creators regarding their pilots.
Oh then whatever. From the reactions I thought it was stuck through some weird bullshit
It probably is but we don't know all the behind the scene details.
Adult Swim was the only glimmer of hope this turd had to get off the ground. No one else would touch this with a 10 foot pole
Oh well, enough said.
>All these people getting sand in their vegana about pibby
why does it trigger you so much
their inner child is dead
Which potential AS show fanbase was more autistic, GKND or Pibby?
Pibby, KNDgays have standards
GKNDgays faded away a few weeks after that years April Fools event that they convinced themselves would be GKND. They occasionally pop up but have otherwise faded away
Pibby fueled one of the most autistic types of person on the internet and they latched on hard and have been shitting up AS discussion about the show since the trailer dropped
Soulless crossover
I never gave a frick about Pibby
I'm sick of mass crossovers
Smash Bros speculation fricking burnt me out
Rare Cinemaphile W
I wanna bang Pibby
Pibby would've been better than that shit Rescue Rangers movie.
a damn shame, I was really looking forward to it and seeing content that wasn't fnf related.
I suspected royalties would've been a problem with the show coming into existence though.
Pibby is over so no more news in the foreseeable future and that means there are no reason for more pibby threads in Cinemaphile ever again
Amen to that
Honestly this concept would have never worked for a full show. It gained popularity exclusively by shock value. And while shock value is a good gimmick to get people interested in the studio or network, it can’t be used to prop up an entire animated series, Pibby was nothing more than a Too Many Cooks scenario. Something just made to get people talking about adult swim.
And let’s face it, Pibby was trying to do the creepy pasta thing years after it was relevant. This is a 2014 era pilot that got released in 2023
>2023
You mean 2021 but still you are right
The most it could have gotten was a miniseries or 1 hour long special
Why does Pibby cause so much seethe?
/co/ntrarians mostly
they just bray "POPULAR THING BAD!" like jackasses while spouting endless buzzwords
I don't think disdain and seethe are the same thing.
Good. I am more tolerant of the multiverse stuff than most people here but this concept always felt pretty soulless.
In all honesty, when the trailer dropped, i couldn't believe autistic prepubescent teens were cheering for another "dark and edgy" creepypasta (ugly, unoriginal and unfunny one at that) with a Sigourney Weaver gen-alpha ripoff as the MC who needs to "believe in herself" (ugh).
Everything about Pibby spells "creative bankruptcy". If you kept the OG concept but all the franchises were all fake and made-up (i.e. : Wreck It Ralph but applied for cartoons), it could have been an interesting (not great, just interesting) commentary on network TV and the collective unconscious, but with raunchy visuals and weird meta humor.
>IG screenshot
Opinion discarded
AdultSwim as a whole has gone almost completely downhill after they started pretending that Minoriteam and World Peace never existed.
>almost
Damn I almost have had you
One would have thought they'd have something it show after giving three of their most popular IPs a movie but instead they were just released with nothing to chase them
>Trending on Twitter for two days straight
>People b***hing on all social media
>Comment sections filled with angry pibby fans
Shit, this is gonna be another Venture Brothers/Smiling Friends situation where the fans bully the studio into making their show, isn't it? Because that's hilarious and awesome and I highly approve. Bullying corporations is fun and productive.
That is how movie Sonic became less ugly. Sometimes something looks so hideous that every anti-bullying convention taught in schools falls to the wayside.
Either way, I hope Pibby never gets made because this generation needs to learn the word “no”.
That reminds me, how old is George Jetson now? I remember when we were memeing his date of conception. And I know we complained about rehashing IPs, but what if we focused on a Jetsons prequel set in the modern day?
Smiling Friends was greenlit a month after the pilot aired after basic audience demand
I think Smiling Friends was fortunate enough to have at least one season. Some shows don’t even get that.
>It's coming this year
it was already being worked on. you see mr frog in the pilot, it was always intended to be a show.
Probably. AS would be missing out on an audience they can obviously capitalize on.
It's already the most viewed video on their channel, it's not happening
It's a real damn shame that it won't be made into a series because I wanted to see fanart of Pibby getting violently raped by wieners of corruption until she becomes a cum zombie in graphic details.
What’s stopping you from commissioning that now?
>What’s stopping you from commissioning that now?
Because I don't want to pay for something that I could just get for free.
someone literally did an animation of that anon, just look it up
Finally. Why watch some hamfisted creepypasta fanfic when you could watch The Shivering Truth (actually creepy) and PRIMAL (great action) instead?
If using HB/CN/Looney Tunes characters would’ve been a problem, couldn’t they have just made and used stand-ins?
What would be the point? From what I've seen, the crossover element is one of the only stand out features, even then, all preexisting characters were part of the glitch and weren't their actual characters, essentially only having them for recognition reasons.
What exactly would this show have had to offer? I don't understand the potential people seemed to think this idea had. Subversion of children's media is a lame and overused trope.
stuff like this is popular with kids and autistic people
The development of a character from a preschool show having to leave their sheltered life and learn to mature. The crossover aspect was a bonus for the character to see how bigger things really are.
The fanbase was, and this is not a lie or exaggeration, Friday Night Funkin' fans because it wove in effortlessly with the FNF Sonic.exe subculture. Zoomers and Gen A have an endless appetite for this shit and anyone outside of that age bracket will never understand.
mental illness
?si=w7spHRq8F1_8LK8X why would they go through the trouble of dubbing the trailer in Spanish if they're not going through with it
Why do I feel that this is all a rouse to drum up reinterest?
Dodge Greenley left the project a while too didn't he?
They want morons like you to get hyped. They just failed to gather enough to greenlight the show
Frick you
Money talks, ‘tism walks. That’s just the way it is.
It's weird but I suspect it's money related. I don't know how much licensing costs but I imagine it would be a hassle to balance for the animation.
>better luck next time, buddy
kek even that fits
The biggest problem was that it would have been made by corporations so they were going to play it safe and not do the shit people actually want from this kind of media
It's like if they were trying to make something like Black Souls but sanitized and corporate
This. People had an absolutely delusional idea about how deep and supposedly mature this shit was going to be. It was going to be bottom of the barrel, Sonic.exe tier content and the most that would come out of it would be hundreds of fan theories that are clearly looking way too deep into it.
>Black souls
And that is...?
Actual schizo Kino
Dark Souls x Bloodborne x Fairy Tales x Lovecraft
And
Something that, technically considering those fairy tales were once considering child friendly, does what Pibby can only dream or fears to do
Black Souls is edgy eroge shit this website likes to jerk off. The art fricking sucks too.
So basically leave it to the "fans" to make their own pibby interpretation like it should always been the case
At first I thought this seemed like a neat concept for a cartoon, but then I took a look at the TV Tropes Nightmare Fuel page for Villanos and realized that I do NOT want this kind of autism unleashed upon this world,
Pibby, Bluey, Ohio, Bowser fart, Peppino.
Chungus, 'mong us, Jumbo Josh, Skibididi Toilet and Ghetto Smosh
Kino, canny, reddit gold, Freddy FNAF, so retro.
Pickle Rick and SMG4, keep your rizz memes what a snore!
>Pibby not greenlit
>Already at bump limit.
I guess this sign off from Pibby is appropriate to post. It's unfortunate we probably won't ever see how it would all play out. The wholesome art and discussion of Pibby and Joe Pera was nice after the April Fools event.
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Just dropping my 2 cents on this: There is clear interest in this Pibby thing on both sides and there is yet to be a "we dropped the pitch and don't care for it anymore" announcement, but production has never started for reasons that may or may not be obvious. I personally don't think it'll be a thing and I'm not exactly ecsatic or outraged about its current limbo status either, but theres a lot of shit going around it that could (or should) go wrong that would make it stink. I'd like for it to be metakino but I think it'll just be crossovershit