“A song like ‘Yesterday’ or ‘Michelle’ …Hey, God knows, it’s such a cop-out, man, both of those songs. If you go to the Library of Congress you can find a lot better than that. There are millions of songs like ‘Yesterday’ and ‘Michelle’ written in Tin Pan Alley.”
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seething israelite mad that he couldn't write anything half as memorable
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>Listen to Concert for Bangladesh >skip most of the Bob Dylan solo songs
No better way
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Dylan never got over the mogging he received from Lennon in the sixties. Especially when Lennon wrote a better Dylan song on purpose.
Give me love (give me peace on earth)
God
With a Little Help from My Friends (yeah beatles songs, but Ringo basically wrote the whole thing)
Flaming Pie
Paul:You Won't See Me or Golden Slumbers/medley
John:In My Life
George:Here Comes the Sun or All Things Must Pass
Ringo: Octopuses Garden
just offhand answers I might change em depending on the day
Beatin The W.I.F.E.
Dear Bruises
Glass Beating
Ob-La-Beat Ob-La-Wife
Wild Honey Beating
The Continuing Beating of Cynthia
While My Wife Gently Weeps
Happiness Is A Fist
Beating My Dear
My Hand Is So Tired
Black Eye
Cynthia
Rocky Marriage
Don't Pass Me b***h
Why Don't I Beat You In The Road
I Will Beat You
Julian
Beatingday
Yer Black and Blues
Mother Fricking b***h
Cynthia's Got Bruises To Hide Cause Of Me and My Monkeyfists
Stupid Cynthia
Helter Smackmybitchup
Long Long Long Beatings
Beatvolution
Honey Beating
Savory Beatings
Cry Cynthia Cry
9th Beating Of The Day
Good Night b***h
they don't call it Lord of the Ringo for nothing....which makes me remember:
>But three decades before, the Beatles had tried to get a “Lord of the Rings” film off the ground. After playing themselves in “A Hard Day’s Night” and “Help!,” the Fab Four was ready to play fictional characters. Apple Films executive Denis O’Dell spearheaded the hunt for material, and Lennon reportedly loved the idea of “Rings.” Lennon would play Gollum, Paul McCartney would play Frodo, George Harrison would be Gandalf and Ringo Starr would play Sam.
>Stanley Kubrick, fresh off “Dr. Strangelove,” was approached to direct, while the Beatles would provide the music. Kubrick said no — he considered it “unfilmable” and, more importantly, Tolkien turned them down. Other directors who were considered included Michelangelo Antonioni, David Lean and Richard Lester. Kubrick went on to make “2001: A Space Odyssey,” and the Beatles turned to animation with “Yellow Submarine.”
Noel deserves some credit for being able to write the anthem-like songs of Oasis. There's not a person alive who doesn't know Wonderwall and any brit can sing Wonderwall, Supersonic, Don't look back in anger, Morning glory etc.
The Beatles are obviously god tier but Noel is not just "okay", he's like a savant for writing catchy sing along tunes to sing when you've had a few
any brit is your keyword, the rest of the world knows maybe half the lyrics. it's weird since singer songwriters were in for the USA in that era and techno was way less popular than in Europe, but they just never caught on like that
>Steals everything from The Stone Roses and The Las >Makes a shitty Yellow Submarine music video >People think they only ripped off The Beatles
This never made any sense to me, anyone who's somewhat familiar to the Manchester scene from the late 80s to early 90s would know instantly where they got their sound from
>the Manchester scene from the late 80s to early 90s
anon the only thing that people know from this scene is Oasis. the other bands paved the way and then they nailed it
neither were huge there but I really doubt the average American is just as likely to recognise She Bangs the Drums and Waterfall as they are to recognise Supersonic, Wonderwall and Don't Look Back in Anger
i really like free as a bird
it was ok when they added the other parts, but just by itself is my favorite, the piano is allowed to shift into a minor chord with your full attention
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
>The fact that so many books still name the Beatles "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art.
The day rock music becomes a "serious art" is the day it dies. Looking for the same cerebral qualities that Bach or Beethoven offer in rock music is to pervert the point, purpose, and value of rock. What makes something "good music" is not necessarily the same as what makes it "good rock music", and so maybe it's legitimate to say the Beatles aren't "good music", but maybe also that's not even relevant. But if it is, what follows should be a discussion of what the nature of "good music" is and why the Beatles fall short of that and why that's relevant/irrelevant to what they're doing. Instead it's assumed that "good rock music" = "good music" = "you understand what I mean by that". >Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane
You change the issue here: yes those guys are agreed to be among the best jazz musicians. But is their music the best jazz music? That's a different question, and their critics' like-mindedness breaks apart on that one. Depends what you mean by "good jazz", right? >Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe.
First off, as a musician Beethoven was incredibly popular and perhaps the single-most respected pianist of his day. Second, as a composer he was also incredibly popular. Controversial, sure, but if there were a best-sellers list of sheet music back then his stuff would've been all over it. So that claim is simply a distortion of history.
Your attempt to distinguish rock criticism from jazz/classical criticism fails, at least insofar as you’ve presented it. Your examples are weak and undermine your claim, not support it.
>When you are a teenager >they are decent but its an overrated boomer band >Also outdated >Not even in the top 50s >this X band from the 60s ACTHUALLY was way better
>When you get old >no, they were actually that fricking good, once in a lifetime miracly from God
Paul had the esp of making a tune from dreams and the future and people, the same as me when I quantum jumped to him. Should you steal a tune? there was comradery between music elites.
when?
Best Beatles solo album coming through.
NOT so fast
Goat. Not a single bad track except for six o clock.
I NEED A
Man I can smell your feet a mile away
Sorry CHUD, but you're wrong
not even the best lennon album (it’s Plastic Ono Band)
TEMPORARY
You know it, SUCKERS!
Can’t believe this is the cover he went with.
>What did you wake me up for?
Somehow he went from The Cute One to Uncle Joey from Full House.
OH N-
thanks for the reminder to listen to wonderful christmastime
you just know it's going to suck with that cover
All Things Must Pass was hands down the best solo album of any Beetle.
I could only get through it once.
>harrison blatantly stealing He’s So Fine
I don’t think so chud.
>le shitty Black person song is actually better
that or ram and then all things must pass in 3rd
>Invents hip-hop in your path
Why were John and Paul c**ts
And Ringo and George such nice people
Ringo and Paul were the good guys, George and John were c**ts
Only one of the solo beatles that I like
Paul was the driven one
John was the prick artist
George was the baby
Ringo was just happy to be involved
Favourite song from each of them?
>Paul
Yesterday or Long and Winding Road
>John
Strawberry Fields Forever
>George
Something
>Ringo
Don't Pass Me By
>yesterday
homosexual
Moron
post breasts
You doing ok anon?
aside from your shit taste I'm good senpai.
>Paul
Two of Us
>John
Across The Universe
>George
Here Comes the Sun
>Ringo
Don't Pass Me By
I love the Beach Boys.
she said she said
lady madonna
while my guitar
octopus garden
Yeah this sounds right
I'd add that Yellow Submarine in Pepperland should count as a Beatles song and would be Martin's best song
>Lennon
Norwegian Wood
>McCartney
I’m Looking Through You
>Harrison
Something
>Starr
Octopuses Garden
>Norwegian Wood
nice b8
That song’s great though. Not even that anon.
The only Paul songs in my top 10 are Here, There and Everywhere and I’ve Just Seen a Face. And I fricking hate John as a person.
Yesterday is one of the greatest songs ever written in history
Dylan was right about Yesterday.
What did he say?
“A song like ‘Yesterday’ or ‘Michelle’ …Hey, God knows, it’s such a cop-out, man, both of those songs. If you go to the Library of Congress you can find a lot better than that. There are millions of songs like ‘Yesterday’ and ‘Michelle’ written in Tin Pan Alley.”
seething israelite mad that he couldn't write anything half as memorable
>Listen to Concert for Bangladesh
>skip most of the Bob Dylan solo songs
No better way
Dylan never got over the mogging he received from Lennon in the sixties. Especially when Lennon wrote a better Dylan song on purpose.
John and Paul were uniroincally very handsome
>john
Julia or In My Life
>Paul
Here, There and Everywhere
>George
Something
>Ringo
With A Little Help From My Friends
Give me love (give me peace on earth)
God
With a Little Help from My Friends (yeah beatles songs, but Ringo basically wrote the whole thing)
Flaming Pie
>Paul
Back in the USSR
>John
Happiness is a Warm Gun
>George
Here Comes the Sun
>Ringo
Act Naturally (cover)
From left
If I Needed Someone
Rain
Good Night
She's Leaving Home
>John
Don’t Let me Down
>Paul
Helter Skelter
>George
It’s All Too Much
>Ringo
Don’t Pass Me By
>John
A Day in the Life, or Words of Love if that doesn’t count
>Paul
Here, There and Everywhere
>George
Piggies
>Ringo
I don’t like any Ringo songs.
>I don’t like any Ringo songs.
He only wrote two and neither are good for more than a novelty.
>Doesnt like Don’t Pass Me By
What the frick is wrong with you?
>john
in my life
>paul
oh darling
>george
for you blue
>ringo
octopus garden
>Macca
I’ve Just Seen A Face
>Lennon
Dear Prudence
>Harrison
I Need You
>Ringo
What Goes On
>Macca
>I’ve Just Seen A Face
MY MAN
>Paul
Helter Skelter
>John
Strawberry Fields Forever
>George
If I Needed Someone
>Ringo
With A Little Help From My Friends
>Paul
Let It Be
>John
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away
>George
Taxman
>Ringo
???
>Filtered by Ringo
not exactly i just don't know a single thing he wrote apart from octopus's garden
he certainly had a style
>John
Girl
>Paul
Hey Jude
>George
When my guitar gently weeps
>Ringo
Octopus's garden
>Paul
Hey Jude
>John
Tomorrow Never Knows
>Goerge
It's All Too Much
>Ringo
Thomas the Tank Engine narration
Rain
Got to get you into my life
Here comes the sun
Don’t pass me by
Paul:You Won't See Me or Golden Slumbers/medley
John:In My Life
George:Here Comes the Sun or All Things Must Pass
Ringo: Octopuses Garden
just offhand answers I might change em depending on the day
Paul: Hey Jude
John: A Day in the Life or Across the Universe, hard to choose though
George: Something or Long, Long, Long
Ringo: Good Night
Listen to real music like Led Zeppelin and the Beach Boys. The Beatles literally jerk offd with eacother. Autists love the Masturbeatles.
He won
>I've assessed the situation and I'm leaving.
Him just getting up and leaving and then politely saying that he's done is the most British thing
george is the best one
lmao no his paki shit is terrible
i love it, tomorrow never knows is my favorite beatles song
t. paki
i took a DNA test and i found out i was 100% aryan thoughever
Beatin The W.I.F.E.
Dear Bruises
Glass Beating
Ob-La-Beat Ob-La-Wife
Wild Honey Beating
The Continuing Beating of Cynthia
While My Wife Gently Weeps
Happiness Is A Fist
Beating My Dear
My Hand Is So Tired
Black Eye
Cynthia
Rocky Marriage
Don't Pass Me b***h
Why Don't I Beat You In The Road
I Will Beat You
Julian
Beatingday
Yer Black and Blues
Mother Fricking b***h
Cynthia's Got Bruises To Hide Cause Of Me and My Monkeyfists
Stupid Cynthia
Helter Smackmybitchup
Long Long Long Beatings
Beatvolution
Honey Beating
Savory Beatings
Cry Cynthia Cry
9th Beating Of The Day
Good Night b***h
Anyone who says octopus garden is a moron, its not even a top 5 Ringo song
you're right but it's simultaneously the best beatles song of all
It's easily his catchiest and most melodic song
Eternal reminder that George and Paul's solo career > the entire Beatles discography
Paul > George
Yeah.
What was going through his mind here?
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Seething about Paul being the GOAT
George is the contrarian pic for pussies who don't want to admit Paul >>>>>> John
Paul is one of the greatest composers of all time, it's not debatable. This is the greatest use of modern pop music in film ever
imagine how awful a scene using one of John's melodramatic edgelord songs would be?
Paul is the GOAT, literally
>this kills the macca grannyshitters
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Pauls granny shit alone shits all over Lennons career, Paul GOAT shit? Untouched
meanwhile Paul takes the high ground
john and george linked up to chat shit
hmm and how did those two end up i wonder
mcchadneybros stay winning
>Macca literally invents distracks to dab on John
How can John gays ever recover?
It still dabs on everything made today
My favourite song.
Which one?
A Day in the Life.
Of course you actuallty mean Strawberry Fields Forever
No, although that's a favourite too. A Day in the Life is genius, and beautiful. It's also a rare genuine McCartney/Lennon from their discography.
My favourite Lennon (only) written song is I Feel Fine.
It's very... cheering.
The I’M SO GLAAAAD and SHE’S SO GLAAAAD is pure ear sex. Never gets old for me.
Pepe in the sky with diamonds
Mine too. Well it was for a decade. Now it’s How Firm a Foundation.
I will never not be mad that Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane were pulled from Sgt. Pepper’s.
It always makes me LOL Ringo had the first solo #1 and it made Reddit Lennon seethe.
they don't call it Lord of the Ringo for nothing....which makes me remember:
>But three decades before, the Beatles had tried to get a “Lord of the Rings” film off the ground. After playing themselves in “A Hard Day’s Night” and “Help!,” the Fab Four was ready to play fictional characters. Apple Films executive Denis O’Dell spearheaded the hunt for material, and Lennon reportedly loved the idea of “Rings.” Lennon would play Gollum, Paul McCartney would play Frodo, George Harrison would be Gandalf and Ringo Starr would play Sam.
>Stanley Kubrick, fresh off “Dr. Strangelove,” was approached to direct, while the Beatles would provide the music. Kubrick said no — he considered it “unfilmable” and, more importantly, Tolkien turned them down. Other directors who were considered included Michelangelo Antonioni, David Lean and Richard Lester. Kubrick went on to make “2001: A Space Odyssey,” and the Beatles turned to animation with “Yellow Submarine.”
Sounds like a terrible idea.
But it would still have been better than Amazon's The Rings of Power.
It sounds like the most kino thing to ever exist what do you mean
>woke up
>fell out of bed
>smacked my wife across the head
>steals everything from The Beatles
>becomes one of the world's biggest bands
is it that easy?
>best bands
>best football teams
why are liverpool and manchester so much than the souf?
They’re the Beatles if the Beatles were only okay songwriters.
Noel deserves some credit for being able to write the anthem-like songs of Oasis. There's not a person alive who doesn't know Wonderwall and any brit can sing Wonderwall, Supersonic, Don't look back in anger, Morning glory etc.
The Beatles are obviously god tier but Noel is not just "okay", he's like a savant for writing catchy sing along tunes to sing when you've had a few
Fine, he’s good, but most of his tracks are just okay.
any brit is your keyword, the rest of the world knows maybe half the lyrics. it's weird since singer songwriters were in for the USA in that era and techno was way less popular than in Europe, but they just never caught on like that
>Americans want grungy people, stabbing themselves in the head on stage. They get a bright bunch like us, with deodorant on, they don't get it.
>Steals everything from The Stone Roses and The Las
>Makes a shitty Yellow Submarine music video
>People think they only ripped off The Beatles
This never made any sense to me, anyone who's somewhat familiar to the Manchester scene from the late 80s to early 90s would know instantly where they got their sound from
Also they Man cucks, they'd never steal from Liverpool
>the Manchester scene from the late 80s to early 90s
anon the only thing that people know from this scene is Oasis. the other bands paved the way and then they nailed it
stone roses are probably just as popular in the US than Oasis
neither were huge there but I really doubt the average American is just as likely to recognise She Bangs the Drums and Waterfall as they are to recognise Supersonic, Wonderwall and Don't Look Back in Anger
>Stone Roses are probably as popular as Oasis in the US
what in the actual frick planet do you come from
Stone Roses fricking rule
We lost
>Even Oasis admit Macca is the GOAT
Well its over then
Reminder that Cinemaphile has always been a /George/ board.
Frick Paul McCartney
i'd like to be
under the sea
i really like free as a bird
it was ok when they added the other parts, but just by itself is my favorite, the piano is allowed to shift into a minor chord with your full attention
>both leave the band
is morello really that big of a jerk?
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
seethe
isn't this the spastic who thinks le CIA circus music is the greatest album ever
>The fact that so many books still name the Beatles "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art.
The day rock music becomes a "serious art" is the day it dies. Looking for the same cerebral qualities that Bach or Beethoven offer in rock music is to pervert the point, purpose, and value of rock. What makes something "good music" is not necessarily the same as what makes it "good rock music", and so maybe it's legitimate to say the Beatles aren't "good music", but maybe also that's not even relevant. But if it is, what follows should be a discussion of what the nature of "good music" is and why the Beatles fall short of that and why that's relevant/irrelevant to what they're doing. Instead it's assumed that "good rock music" = "good music" = "you understand what I mean by that".
>Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane
You change the issue here: yes those guys are agreed to be among the best jazz musicians. But is their music the best jazz music? That's a different question, and their critics' like-mindedness breaks apart on that one. Depends what you mean by "good jazz", right?
>Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe.
First off, as a musician Beethoven was incredibly popular and perhaps the single-most respected pianist of his day. Second, as a composer he was also incredibly popular. Controversial, sure, but if there were a best-sellers list of sheet music back then his stuff would've been all over it. So that claim is simply a distortion of history.
Your attempt to distinguish rock criticism from jazz/classical criticism fails, at least insofar as you’ve presented it. Your examples are weak and undermine your claim, not support it.
The Beatles were also controversial in their day, for a number of reasons.
>When you are young
>its granny old shit
>When you are a teenager
>they are decent but its an overrated boomer band
>Also outdated
>Not even in the top 50s
>this X band from the 60s ACTHUALLY was way better
>When you get old
>no, they were actually that fricking good, once in a lifetime miracly from God
APOLOGIZE TO YOUR GRANDPA NOW
Paul had the esp of making a tune from dreams and the future and people, the same as me when I quantum jumped to him. Should you steal a tune? there was comradery between music elites.
How's the Now and Then hype going, lads? Always was a great John demo. George was a c**t for hating it.
Yoko Gallo won