Legend of Korra

How did they frick this up so bad?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Hey so what if all are villains were shit and Korra reached peak power before even halfway throughout the series yet still job till the very end

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I hated Whorra too. Total mary sue

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Made a pretty convincing "for the sake of the common men" character
      >Shat the bed by making him a comical mustache twisting villain for some reason
      >HAHAHAHA ANON, YOU FOOL. THE IDENTITY OF THE MYSTERIOUS MASKED MAN YOU HAVE SEEN ALL ALONG WAS ACTUALLY...some literally who? His face isn't even disfigured?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        He easily could have been the big bad for a 4 season show, if they had planned for it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Should have been Koh

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        How to fix Amon and Korra as a whole
        >make him the main villain that builds up over the course of the show
        >make him and the equalists start out peaceful and kind until all the bullshit crushes their hope and drives them to a dark place
        >have Korra fight people from different positions and places each representing a different part of the corruption/oppression
        >keep shit smaller, no dark avatar shit at most Republic City and Zao Fu
        >have her be true peace time avatar and have her deal with more diplomatic shit and become less hot headed as things go forward
        >lastly (for now) have Amon be exactly who he says he is no bullshit with blood bending or any other nonsense.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I disagree on keepign everything confiend to Republic City

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Didn’t say just republic city, but yeah it isn’t the strongest one. I do think things should be more localized. No grand world ending shit. Keep it chill and focus on keeping peace.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >peak power
      >lost every fight

      Ah this classic moron argument again. The character who always loses is somehow a jobber even though they have a low power level.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally the same problem as George Lucas and the prequels where the people who reigned the creators in previously were no longer around.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not exactly: Lucas' problems had to do more with the fact that he TRIED to get other people to handle the Star Wars prequels, but they refused and insisted he was the man to do it. Most of the people who had worked on the OT had either quit the film biz, died, or were working on other projects. If we're talking the direction of the Prequels, then yes, they did suffer from lack of a coherent vision (Anakin being the Chosen One wasn't planned until Ep 3, then he was meant to be Palpatine's "son", before that was scrapped) until EU material and shows like The Clone Wars were established and retroactively made things into a somewhat coherent product.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Speaking of Lucas, Bryke have talked about the reason as to why TLOK avoided delving into politics and it mostly came down to not wanting to be left with Prequel Trilogy comparisons out of fear of boring the audience. Politicking scenes were originally conceived but scrapped for this reason.

        And that's not to imply they even would have been that interesting: TLOK doesn't really handle the political themes with maturity or nuance, instead everything resorts to neoliberal Obama-era pro-status quo mentality where the Establishment is Inherently Good because it is run by Good People (descended from heroes) and the Anti-Establishment is inherently bad because it is Not Establishment and always Evil. Communism aesthetic is draped onto Amon (but it means nothing), Communism AND Nazism aesthetic is draped onto Kuvira (but it means nothing), etc. They really exist to look cool or to easily communicate that "these are the bad guys, wowee".

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Communism aesthetic is draped onto Amon (but it means nothing), Communism AND Nazism aesthetic is draped onto Kuvira (but it means nothing), etc. They really exist to look cool or to easily communicate that "these are the bad guys, wowee".
          Nothing wrong with that, those are (for modern audience) easy and aesthetically pleasing way to tell "these are military type bad guys".
          Also are you implying that Kuvira was some sort of Nazbol Queen?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Lucas' problems had to do more with the fact that he TRIED to get other people to handle the Star Wars prequels, but they refused and insisted he was the man to do it.
        This bullshit again.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you want a serious answer, it comes down to poor direction on behalf of Bryke, the talented crew of ATLA not returning for TLOK, and a lack of faith from Bryke over all.

      Korra's entire selling point is being the exact opposite of ATLA in every way, something that Bryke prided themselves on without really knowing how badly this would damage the story and worldbuilding: Korra is Aang's foil in every single way, Book 1 takes place in a city rather than traveling the world, most of the cast have personality opposed to their element or background, and there's a big emphasis on industry. None of this really works as intended due to poor internal logic and these story choices not being executed in a way that generates interesting stories. The cast end up half-baked and serve as gimmicks with nothing to actually do.

      Take for instance Korra herself: despite what Book 3 and 4 try to accomplish, Korra lacks a character arc since she lacks an internal conflict as a whole: she instead plays the role of a plot device being jerked around by her ego since that is what the plot requires of her, only to be beaten down and rendered helpless every time, further highlighting how she's only useful as a narrative punching bag to feel sorry for. Her only real appeal is aesthetic whether that be her appearance, surface level personality, or overall attitude. Nothing about her coincides with the internal logic established by ATLA, and neither do the other characters shackled to her.

      Not exactly: Lucas' problems had to do more with the fact that he TRIED to get other people to handle the Star Wars prequels, but they refused and insisted he was the man to do it. Most of the people who had worked on the OT had either quit the film biz, died, or were working on other projects. If we're talking the direction of the Prequels, then yes, they did suffer from lack of a coherent vision (Anakin being the Chosen One wasn't planned until Ep 3, then he was meant to be Palpatine's "son", before that was scrapped) until EU material and shows like The Clone Wars were established and retroactively made things into a somewhat coherent product.

      Genuinely have a nice day

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The prequels sucked, cope.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    in the end the all powerful avatar ended as the tophy wife of a capitalist CEO
    based af

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not able to plan all 4 seasons
    >setting clashing with themes
    >not giving villains time to breath
    >not expending on bending more
    >not enough lewds of korra
    >love triangle shit

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    poor planification and even worse execution according to the creators at least.
    Still, she's talked about everyday on here because everyone wants to plap her even if LOK has ended almost a decade ago.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Specifically, Bryke failed with the direction of wanting to make each Book self-contained (barring segues) and with a shorter episode count (the latter of which was originally planned by them for ATLA, fun fact). There's no real overarching hooks to create tension or hook viewers, and the ones that do exist within Books are handled poorly.

      Making matters worse was Book 1 being originally pitched as a mini-series before it was greenlit to a full Book, along with Books 3 and 4 greenlit as another season: contrary to popular belief, Korra does NOT have four seasons, only two, each consisting of two Books. Book 2 was written as if it was the last Book to be made as Bryke were unsure if TLOK would be renewed for another season.

      Book 1 is really where all the problems with TLOK lie, since they never really go away:

      >Bryke having the largest amount of creative control is obvious here, given the lack of ATLA crew who didn't arrive until Book 2 began
      >Homogenized and incoherent worldbuilding
      >Internal logic that clashes and contradicts ATLA's for the sole sake of being distinct from it
      >Poorly established and developed characters, ranging from boring to insufferable
      >romance for the sake of pandering
      >a crippling inability to develop tension and use the runtime efficiently: most of TLOK is spent meandering or dragging out things
      >Legacy cast being all but absent, their children being hit or miss, and newer characters being 50/50 on whether or not they're well written (most aren't)
      >neoliberal writing (hence the aim towards urban modernization through INDUSTRY, the death of spirituality in-universe and in a meta sense, and the villains being the ones in the right until they're written to be evil because neoliberalism says radicalism = worse than the devil)

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not exactly: Lucas' problems had to do more with the fact that he TRIED to get other people to handle the Star Wars prequels, but they refused and insisted he was the man to do it. Most of the people who had worked on the OT had either quit the film biz, died, or were working on other projects. If we're talking the direction of the Prequels, then yes, they did suffer from lack of a coherent vision (Anakin being the Chosen One wasn't planned until Ep 3, then he was meant to be Palpatine's "son", before that was scrapped) until EU material and shows like The Clone Wars were established and retroactively made things into a somewhat coherent product.

        If you want a serious answer, it comes down to poor direction on behalf of Bryke, the talented crew of ATLA not returning for TLOK, and a lack of faith from Bryke over all.

        Korra's entire selling point is being the exact opposite of ATLA in every way, something that Bryke prided themselves on without really knowing how badly this would damage the story and worldbuilding: Korra is Aang's foil in every single way, Book 1 takes place in a city rather than traveling the world, most of the cast have personality opposed to their element or background, and there's a big emphasis on industry. None of this really works as intended due to poor internal logic and these story choices not being executed in a way that generates interesting stories. The cast end up half-baked and serve as gimmicks with nothing to actually do.

        Take for instance Korra herself: despite what Book 3 and 4 try to accomplish, Korra lacks a character arc since she lacks an internal conflict as a whole: she instead plays the role of a plot device being jerked around by her ego since that is what the plot requires of her, only to be beaten down and rendered helpless every time, further highlighting how she's only useful as a narrative punching bag to feel sorry for. Her only real appeal is aesthetic whether that be her appearance, surface level personality, or overall attitude. Nothing about her coincides with the internal logic established by ATLA, and neither do the other characters shackled to her.

        Imagine typing all this shit out and exciting anybody to actually read it

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tried to have its cake and eat it too by making the world's most annoying protagonist and then putting her through the humiliation conga again and again in the hopes it would make you sympathetic (or horny).

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want a serious answer, it comes down to poor direction on behalf of Bryke, the talented crew of ATLA not returning for TLOK, and a lack of faith from Bryke over all.

    Korra's entire selling point is being the exact opposite of ATLA in every way, something that Bryke prided themselves on without really knowing how badly this would damage the story and worldbuilding: Korra is Aang's foil in every single way, Book 1 takes place in a city rather than traveling the world, most of the cast have personality opposed to their element or background, and there's a big emphasis on industry. None of this really works as intended due to poor internal logic and these story choices not being executed in a way that generates interesting stories. The cast end up half-baked and serve as gimmicks with nothing to actually do.

    Take for instance Korra herself: despite what Book 3 and 4 try to accomplish, Korra lacks a character arc since she lacks an internal conflict as a whole: she instead plays the role of a plot device being jerked around by her ego since that is what the plot requires of her, only to be beaten down and rendered helpless every time, further highlighting how she's only useful as a narrative punching bag to feel sorry for. Her only real appeal is aesthetic whether that be her appearance, surface level personality, or overall attitude. Nothing about her coincides with the internal logic established by ATLA, and neither do the other characters shackled to her.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The didn't have a writing team. They asked Bryke before production started if they could write the series themselves without any writers to save money. They jumped at it (in their own words) to have complete control and it doomed the project.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >writing team

      ATLA itself barely had a "writing team." Aaron Ehasz and his wife single-handedly saved the writing.
      I'd be curious how he did on The Dragon Prince if that show wasn't so fricking ugly.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's definitely not on the level of ATLA also it has some major Netflix meddling and even his employees under him think they're in charge and blow up on twitter at him for not doing what they command of him in the name of their LGBTQIHOP bullshit

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >writing team

          ATLA itself barely had a "writing team." Aaron Ehasz and his wife single-handedly saved the writing.
          I'd be curious how he did on The Dragon Prince if that show wasn't so fricking ugly.

          The Dragon Prince and Korra just show that Ehasz and Bryke balance each other out creatively. Neither show lived up to their full potential, not what you'd expect from 'the creators of Avatar'

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            This with a bullet

            Dragon Prince has interesting characters and a colorful world but none of its rules make a lick of fricking sense and it looks like a PS3 game while Korra has a bunch of great voice actors and dynamic animation in the service of bland MMA and a bunch of brown boring post-industrial horseshit

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let's play a game. I want you to think of and list all the IPs where the protagonist has elemental superpowers.
    >too many to count
    Now list the ones where the protagonist is a reincarnation in a long cycle of legendary historic figures, and can speak with their past lives who impart wisdom and knowledge. They can also embody their past lives to get power up into some frightening amalgam of their combined will, at the risk of death taking them all.
    >0
    They threw that away. They threw away a singularly unique concept, with 1000s of potential interactions and stories ready to tell (look at them hire a semi-competent author to milk Kyoshi and Yangchen), and replaced it with le lawful good and flawless benevolent kite squid who says one (1) line of dialogue in the remaining two seasons.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bryke straight have no imagination when it comes to battling and the like, they think in terms of power levels only. They said they had to destroy the Avatar State because the Avatar was too powerful. No creativity at all...sad.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        The fight choreography in korra is actually really good

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          They don't do the choreography and I wasn't talking about that

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They said they had to destroy the Avatar State because the Avatar was too powerful.
        As always I'm gonna need a fricking source for that, and to contribute:

        The fight choreography in korra is actually really good

        Korra's fight choreography is quite good, it lacks momorable unique bending moves for every episode which I could probably tell you about for each TLA episode, but in exchange you do get some really solid setpieces, even when the season ends up lackluster there's still some pretty great fights in there.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Try googling, it's a well known thing Bryke spoke out about. "Avatar is too strong yada yada we had to find ways to depower her or it's not interesting"

          Just not true, they have no imagination and think fights are solely just two people spamming beams at each other ultimately. The Avatar couldn't even defeat a terrorist cell that would work in concert across the world. Literally impossible

          >Oh no they're attacking Lomba-Lomba!
          >Yayy the Avatar is here! They've retreated!
          >Oh no they destroyed Zoot-Zoot Island with the Avatar here!
          >The Avatar has arrived too late!
          >Mugoban village is poisoned!
          >The Avatar has arrived!
          >Oh no it was another distraction and Republic City exploded!

          And thus the Reign of the Avatar ended and the world was destroyed without the Avatar shooting a single beam.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >think fights are solely just two people spamming beams at each other ultimately
            There's literally maybe one fight where that's a thing and it's in the worst season. I promise you, there's much more shit in Korra fights than you're giving credit to.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              You still can't understand what I'm talking about

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe because your ass can't source or explain shit to save their life.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're dumb as a rock, anon.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just explain with your words, anon, make your point if you think it's been misrepresented.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think this was meant for

                You're dumb as a rock, anon.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Korra's fight choreography is quite good, it lacks momorable unique bending moves for every episode which I could probably tell you about for each TLA episode, but in exchange you do get some really solid setpieces, even when the season ends up lackluster there's still some pretty great fights in there.
          It's boring to watch compared to old ATLA, but it makes sense that with pro-bending that all styles will become as purely efficient as possible over time, just like MMA has. The worldbuilding in Legend of Korra I actually thought was great. The old 1920s radio episode recaps were nice too. It had so much potential but is so flawed, I think that's why it's the most talked about show in /co history. Also Korra is peak waifu and has become the face of /aco, sometimes a peak waifu is all a show needs to be remembered.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Chance for female protagonist to be really amazing
            >Ends up just being remembered for her body

            Oh well...more brown sugar for me is a win too

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Korra is amazing. Her look combined with her dumb wienery personality that makes you want to hate frick her in to oblivion is the reason she is the GOAT waifu western animation has ever created.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Eltonel said he'd draw a sequel
                >Never did

                A DARK CURSE UPON HIS DRAWING HAND

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Ends up just being remembered for her body
              Anon discover female characters and females in general. What a shock.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                Azula isn't beloved for her body, she's remembered because she was unnervingly cool, crazy and powerful.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're a fool

                Absolute comer cope

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're a fool

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also, I thought Zaheer's team all had cool and memorable fighting styles.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Zaheer's team is actually crippled not only by zero focus on who they are but also the fact that half of them are just the same shit (Zaheer is just an experienced more-aggro airbender and P'li is just Combustion Man). The only ones with "memorable" styles are whats his name with lavabending (ridiculously OP) and Grey DeLisle Armless Waterbender with no personality.

              • 7 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The only ones with "memorable" styles are whats his name with lavabending (ridiculously OP) and Grey DeLisle Armless Waterbender with no personality.
                That means 50% of them had a memorable fighting style, which is decent, especially compared to team Korra with Asami, Bolin and Mako being the most boring cast of MCs ever, or the fartbender kid.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you genuinely stupid or just pretending?

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    LoK wasn't that bad, very disjointed to a point where each seasons feel like different show but still a good watch. TLAB was just a masterpiece that was never replicated in any western animation afterwards.

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    No respect from Nick and written by liberals, none of the antagonists are allowed to have valid points or well thought out motives.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >brown fit tomboy
    >universally despised
    impressive achievement tbh

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How did they frick this up so bad?
    So the writers of the Earthbender season have an excuse to make the Water Nation represent the PROC

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    By deciding to make their lead female

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Season 3 was insanely good. Holy shit, I love that finale.
    Fricking incredible.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    korras sexy backmuscles and shoulders

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They did not frick it up; Korra is a better show than ATLA by every measure.

    But avatars are by and large cretinous incels who resent the idea of strong female characters (see: how much they hate Katana); and at the same time imbecilic fricking morons who are unable to grasp the concept of a character flaw (Korra is a million times more interesting character than Aang;: she ducks up all the time and actually has room to grow as a person; genuinely one of the best-written protagonist ever).

    Unfortunately, most ATLA fans have mentally remained children - The Legend of Korra is a far more mature story than the original, and far more interesting, and they are incapable of appreciating it.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. You ask any regular, proper, valuable person who watched both shows, they will tell you the original series is absolutely for children, while The Legend of Korra is a far more mature production with incompatibly more actual depth.

      Whatever the frick the maggots have to say bears little relevance. Anybody who says the show is bad is immature, plain and simple.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >imbecilic fricking morons who are unable to grasp the concept of a character flaw
      It's crazy how so many accusations of TLOK having "bad writing" are just people showing their whole ass that they think a lead character should never make mistakes.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's because they are immature homosexuals who never managed to grow up with the rest of the audience.

        No, for ducking real, if you think Aang is a better character than Korra you are beyond fricking help.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. You ask any regular, proper, valuable person who watched both shows, they will tell you the original series is absolutely for children, while The Legend of Korra is a far more mature production with incompatibly more actual depth.

      Whatever the frick the maggots have to say bears little relevance. Anybody who says the show is bad is immature, plain and simple.

      If you’re going to samegay at least change up how you post.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This discussion about the writers is some of the most obnoxious shit that I have ever seen in my life. You homosexuals should have a nice day.

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well somebody is butthurt

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's hilarious is that the rest of the world actually came to its senses and has recognized The Legend of Korra as a masterpiece by now. It's only the frick stains here who still pretend its anything other than that.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon this exact discussion has been going on for so long now. None of the criticisms against the show hold any water; none of the people who say the show is bad are taken seriously by decent people, it's just a handful of creeps circejerking over whenever imagined right-wing propaganda they are supposed to be upset by this week.

      These threads are evidence of a sever lack of moderation on this board.

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Says the guy trying oh so very hard to shitpost.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the guy
      What? The thread was started by a shitposter and most of the replies are shitposters.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the guy
      What? The thread was started by a shitposter and most of the replies are shitposters.

      Yeah, let's not pretend that hating tlok is a valid position to have

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    They hired fans

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >We only intended to do one season, because we didnt know if we'd get to do another
    >O-oh we have to do more...?

  24. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well that’s one hell of a cope, not even going deny being a shitposter either?

  25. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I swear I have never seen legitimate criticism of this show. Everytime anybody said anything bad about it, all I got from it is that whoever criticized it was a gaping butthole.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Remember that any female led show is instantly loathed by incels

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, why even make a thread like this, unless you are a hateful, bigoted piece of shit?

      What kind of garbage human would want discussion about hating something?

  26. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Super fricking butthurt

  27. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    You gonna keep talking to yourself in hopes someone will think you’re being legit?

  28. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like I said before you’re trying too hard.

  29. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Warms my heart that so few people agree with OP

  30. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think an underlooked part of why the show doesn't work as well as its predecessor is Korra's cast outside of Korra. I think Korra herself is a fine character she just isn't given other characters that she has real screen chemistry with to moderate her less immediately pleasant aspects. Her 'team' has no real reason to interact and travel with her and in fact they get split up a lot. I think she actually has some of the best screen chemistry with Jinora, who ends up happening to be a great foil to her. I would:

    >Age Jinora up a little bit, make her 14 to Korra's 16
    >Make her Korra's bestie and primary travelling companion

    Perhaps Jinora is ready to set off and explore the world in true Air Noman fashion. Meanwhile Korra is sheltered and drastically in need of worldly experience when she gets her shit kicked in by Amon and loses her bending so she and Jinora set out to see the world and find new bending masters for Korra so she can regain all her powers.

  31. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    These discussions were just proto-alt-right shit. The same Nazis, the same dog whistling, the same contempt by the general population towards those perpetrating it.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      The same minority of vermin who do not deserve to live attacking the majority of the decent people that actually love the show.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >frick Nazis
        >exterminate all vermin
        Pick a lane man jeez.

  32. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alternate idea: ditch the normie world and explore the spirit world more.

    It's a fascinating place that we don't get to see *that* much of. Perhaps Korra's journey could be about exploring the spirit world in the hopes of finding another way to bring back the Airbenders (that wouldn't be what they actually did in the show).

  33. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How did they frick this up so bad?
    misandric feminazis and self-hating basedboys started to become prominent in the industry.

  34. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to frick her

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