Okay. I think it's kind of boring, but that figures as it was censored for 99% of the show.
What do you find awful about it?
Makes sense from Marceline’s perspective to go for PB. Princess Bubblegum is also immortal and also lost track of her moral code.
>lost track of her moral code
Elaborate. Do you mean how she rules over her creations because they're literally helpless kindergarteners or how she does experiments on creatures that don't feel pain, are immortal and seem to enjoy it?
Nah the problem was that by the time they officially became a couple, they already worked out most of their issues and reached that lovey dovey stage. The most interesting ships are the ones where the couple conflict with each other and that's why What Was Missing and the flashback in Obisidan was Bubbline at its most compelling even if it was underexplored.
I wish we got to see more interactions between the two before them making up in What Was Missing. Would have been interesting to see two major characters who are friends of the MC have tension between each other.
Shut up moron, there are thousands upon thousands of stories about female friendships. You get those every fricking month. Whereas lesbian romance is dime a dozen
I see the same Zoomer is trying to impress women in animation by harassing me for the sake of his career.
I'll forward your message to about 30 of them to help you do that, along with some men I email (you're a homosexual after all)
I'm also going to feature you in an article to immortalize you in ruining lesbian culture, which will feature all new explanations of how lesbianism works. Hope you appreciate that
Honestly the shit that made their characters shit had pretty much nothing to do with them being lesbians together. Bubbline is a much better ship using their original early season personalities, and was actively harmed as their characters changed more to be "Tyrant evil scientist" and "Boring mope".
Nah the problem was that by the time they officially became a couple, they already worked out most of their issues and reached that lovey dovey stage. The most interesting ships are the ones where the couple conflict with each other and that's why What Was Missing and the flashback in Obisidan was Bubbline at its most compelling even if it was underexplored.
They didn't really dedicate much time to exploring their romantic relationship at all in the show, which is baffling how some people try to claim it "took over the show". They had a single line of dialog together before What Was Missing, and the WWM was pretty much the peak of their relationship troubles. After that episode they pretty much became friends again and occasionally did stuff together, with most of the angst coming from Marcy thinking about her parents, or Simon, or being a vampire and not actually about her break up with PB.
This, as much as Obsidian advertised itself as the "Bubbline special", it was really more about Marceline dealing with her past and feelings about her mom. PB was mostly just her love interest companion who happened to be there, their initial breakup sets off the plot but nothing about their relationship was explored beyond that short scene.
>it was really more about Marceline dealing with her past and feelings about her mom.
which was a fricking bullshit retcon.
Throughout adventure time, Marceline was shown to have nothing but fond memories of her mother and a deep sorrow at having lost her at some point, never showed a single shred of resentment or bitterness or conflicted feelings.
Then suddenly in Obsidian the writers go "lol marceline thought her mother abandoned her out of fear all this time and is only just now finding out she didn't"
Don't forget anon that she finds out her mother didn't abandon her because she randomly found a blinking light that was in fact a phone message recorder with a message that was left for her 1000 years ago. No mathmatical spirit quest, just a lame feminine cop out for payoff. "The payoff for this b-plot you've been watching for like 35-40 minutes is I just hear a short message this character you've seen less that a minute or two in the entire series that makes me feel less sad."
>self inserting is fine if it's dykes and perverse writers doing it
There's absolutely nothing wrong with young boys associating themselves with Finn, the creator intended for that.
What is wrong are the perverse writers, that didn't create the show, who have an affinity for abusing Finn (and the childhoods of many) and get their rocks off to lesbians in children's cartoons even if it means cucking Finn while going against the creator's vision. Let's not pretend this dogshit ship was well written either, both Marceline and PB have more chemistry with Finn than they ever did with each other.
They were paired up only to antagonize young boys who watched AT.
I have no idea why the writers hate males so much, but the intention behind this pairing was clear.
It was never about gay representation, it's about "sticking it to the chuds"
It was pushed by the fanbase and there was a bandwaggon beginning at the time, it was a fun idea either way.
Finn, however was never supposed to end up with either of them as they were there to reflect the impossible childhood crush. Finn was never romantically interested in Marceline and PB wasn't romantically interested in Finn.
How would it have even worked? It would have been plain weird.
Finn got much more shit besides being lead on by PB, anyway.
>It was pushed by the fanbase and there was a bandwaggon beginning at the time, it was a fun idea either way.
The Bubbaline fans were small in number and mocked endlessly for shipping 2 characters who've never shown any interest in each other. >Finn, however was never supposed to end up with either of them as they were there to reflect the impossible childhood crush. Finn was never romantically interested in Marceline and PB wasn't romantically interested in Finn.
Because Finn couldn't' date them they should just frick each other? >How would it have even worked? It would have been plain weird.
Weirder than 2 characters randomly become gay? They only showed interest in men until their song.
>The Bubbaline fans were small in number and mocked endlessly for shipping 2 characters who've never shown any interest in each other.
That was before WWM aired but when it premiered, it exploded in popularity and became one of the most biggest ships in the fandom. You can still find a lot of Bubbline art tracing back to 2011
>Because Finn couldn't' date them they should just frick each other?
My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship and saying otherwise is some strange self-insert entitlement. >randomly become gay
Marceline definitely looks the type to turn out bi and both characters didn't have much romantic exploration to begin with. It's definitely believable. Have you not interacted with women?
[...]
Stop contradicting the established narrative, troony
>My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship and saying otherwise is some strange self-insert entitlement.
Anon the ship itself is just one example of the writers hating men. >Marceline definitely looks the type to turn out bi and both characters didn't have much romantic exploration to begin with. It's definitely believable. Have you not interacted with women?
Yes and the curvature of this mans skulls proves he is a homosexual
>Anon the ship itself is just one example of the writers hating men.
Lesbians existing in the show by itself is a sign of the writers hating men? Is your problem with it being a homosexual relationship or about how it was executed?
>My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship
True, though I do wonder how he would’ve reacted to it in the early seasons.
Confused, but also sad, as he was still crushing on PB.
>My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship
True, though I do wonder how he would’ve reacted to it in the early seasons.
>I have no idea why the writers hate males so much, but the intention behind this pairing was clear. It was never about gay representation, it's about "sticking it to the chuds"
Bubbline was old though, it might be actually be the OG lesbian ship in kids cartoons, I mean I guess Korrasami was the first to be confirmed and depicted onscreen but PB and Marcy was the first time a cartoon actually started seriously hinting towards such a relationship.
This was also back in 2011, a while before the whole culture war discourse and when Cinemaphile still found lesbians hot without making a weird persecution complex fuzz about it.
Stop contradicting the established narrative, troony
>I have no idea why the writers hate males so much, but the intention behind this pairing was clear. It was never about gay representation, it's about "sticking it to the chuds"
Bubbline was old though, it might be actually be the OG lesbian ship in kids cartoons, I mean I guess Korrasami was the first to be confirmed and depicted onscreen but PB and Marcy was the first time a cartoon actually started seriously hinting towards such a relationship.
This was also back in 2011, a while before the whole culture war discourse and when Cinemaphile still found lesbians hot without making a weird persecution complex fuzz about it.
>no chemistry >no values in common >no hobbies in common >marcelines adoptive father figure repeatedly kidnapped and tried to forcibly marry bubblegum >this aspect is never brought up in their relationship
They would never be each other's first or even fifth choice, but given both are over 1000 and people in their lives blip out like mayflies, what other options do you got?
Science Saru's first ever work was an Adventure Time episode, if only they animated something like gif related but with Princess Bubblegum and Marceline
All the anons repeating this point and continuously seething about the ship are absolute morons and self-inserters. Why the frick should they own Finn sex. That's not how story-telling works, that's not how the real world works, you fricking incels.
>Muh never shown interest >Muh early season nostalgia >Muh evil PB >Muh lesbians >Finncels
This is the perfect showcase for average Adventure Time thread post finale. Five years later and you homosexuals are still complaining about the same shit.
Personally I never cared for Finn ending up with either of them. What I did care about was the writers going hysterical and deciding that a happy well-meaning teenage boy had to be hated and looked down on as a gross projection of writer insecurities and self-loathing. He's a fricking kid, he didn't deserve that weird hatred.
Thank Christ he ended up with someone as cool as Huntress Wizard.
>a happy well-meaning teenage boy had to be hated and looked down on as a gross projection of writer insecurities and self-loathing. He's a fricking kid, he didn't deserve that weird hatred
I'm so tired of this argument when it's blatantly false. Everything terrible that happened to Finn was either self-inflicted or outright deserved. Every single time Finn ate shit was either for being a dickhead. >Flame Princess
or because he was going through growing pains. Finn grew up by the end of the series, do you think life in a post apocalyptic mutated Earth was going to be easy for a boy? Finn knows and understands his situation and accepts it, embraces it even. When he met his mother he rejected her offer to be an immortal computer program and stated that he love d his life in ooo and Finn also got to bang Huntress wizard so I won't hear anymore fricking cucking or writers hating Finn arguments. Even in Fionna and Cake it's implied he's fricking her still.
These threads got me back into Adventure Time this year and I took everything said here as factual.
Then I started watching the show again
I was a fool
For the love of God don't take these people seriously, they unironically think seasons 1-3 are the best and it's not even close if you watch the later seasons. Seasons 4-6 are kino.
>I'm so tired of this argument when it's blatantly false. Everything terrible that happened to Finn was either self-inflicted or outright deserved. Every single time Finn ate shit was either for being a dickhead.
...and who, anon, tell me, who decided to start writing him like that? Hmm?
>Who decided to write episodes for the show Anon!?
The writers? And Finn has been eating shit and getting fricked up since the early seasons, at least in the later seasons he was learning how to be a man. What the frick was the lesson in the early seasons when Magic Man turned him into a foot or when the clown nurses ACTIVELY ASSAULTED A CHILD. Both of those are from seasons one and three. So you tell me what's worse. Finn meeting his dad and having an emotional rough patch that matters in the story long term, or Finn being a foot for eleven minutes.
Now I know you're either bullshitting or a foot fetishist. Nobody likes the foot episode.
5 months ago
Anonymous
That episode was good for having the balls to say "maybe jerks just doesn't deserve kindness"
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Nobody likes the foot episode
Only nu-ATgays don't like it lmao I bet that you think that fricking Breezy is the peak of AT
5 months ago
Anonymous
You say that as a hyperbolized insult, but I bet that anon does.
You're not a "real fan" unless you ate up everything the writers threw down, because the show wasn't made by a bunch of people, it was sent to us by God
5 months ago
Anonymous
I watched from the start and that episode was boring.
>Finn being a foot for eleven minutes
What a legend of an episode.
It was ENTERTAINING. >he was learning how to be a man >learning how to be a man from late season AT
Oh lord.
Now I know you're either bullshitting or a foot fetishist. Nobody likes the foot episode.
>Nobody likes the foot episode
Delusional. That's why it went viral and the writers kept chasing the magic of Magic man for the rest of the show.
>So you tell me what's worse. Finn meeting his dad and having an emotional rough patch that matters in the story long term, or Finn being a foot for eleven minutes.
morons like you are why US animation went to shit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Finn being a foot for eleven minutes
What a legend of an episode.
It was ENTERTAINING. >he was learning how to be a man >learning how to be a man from late season AT
Oh lord.
[...] >Nobody likes the foot episode
Delusional. That's why it went viral and the writers kept chasing the magic of Magic man for the rest of the show.
>Nobody likes the foot episode
Only nu-ATgays don't like it lmao I bet that you think that fricking Breezy is the peak of AT
>The U.S animation industry went to shit because I don't want feet fetish shit >I suddenly didn't watch Adventure time when it came out because I prefer the objectively better quality of the later seasons. >Even though I watched the first seasons first when they came out
Seasons 1-3 aren't as good as you remembered them. Finn's voice is actually grating at times, and animation can look like dog water. You guys are telling me you'd rather watch only 1-3 seaons of Adventure time? >No Prismo >No Farm world >one of the best Litch Stories are no longer canon and less Litch content in general >Ice King isn't funny >No fricking bacon pancakes
5 months ago
Anonymous
Early Adventure time
No Prismo Good a Multiverse is shit
No Farm World Good multiverse is shit
Lich is an actual threat not a random mob that Finn defeats on the regular.
Ice is Funny and likable, Not some sob story that is meanless drama
Adventures in the world of fun and whimsy. Not le lore and drama boring hacks.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You need to be 18 to post here.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What else.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Finn's voice is actually grating at times
I watched a foreign dub 🙂
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You guys are telling me you'd rather watch only 1-3 seaons of Adventure time?
Yes, absolutely. I've rewatched them recently while learning German and they hold up.
Later seasons had plenty of great ideas, but fumbled most of them. The fact that those ideas are wasted potential makes it even worse.
The animation is more fluid in the early seasons.
And most importantly of all, the show was enjoyable episode to episode, the dialogue itself felt natural and was entertaining. Even when the later seasons offered you a hint of good story, you would have to slog through stilted dialogue and animation to get there.
>Everything terrible that happened to Finn was either self-inflicted or outright deserved
Finn isn't a real person with agency, you fricking moron. Real human people decided to tell the story we got. Real human people made decisions and set their minds and hearts to work at casting Finn as a creepy little dick goblin who liked seeing his girlfriend fight other men.
You're so fricking moronic, holy shit. Please tell me you're not done with puberty yet. I need some kind of reason for you to be carrying around this dumb bullshit in your head.
Nice job replying. I know Finn isn't a real person with agency, and while I agree the Fire and Ice episode was fricking trash and the way they did Finn and Flame Princess was horrible, and I didn't like what they did with the break up arch. I feel like it went on for too long but, it does serve a purpose in adding depth and growth for Finn in the later seasons where he and FP are friends again, and then finds Huntress Wizard to have an item with. Regardless, the episode you mentioned did serve a purpose long term, and it was essential to Finn's overall growth as a character. I'm starting to think a majority of people who are Finncels and hate the later seasons didn't watch anything past the Fire and Ice special.
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Anonymous
The problem is he didnt need that growth in the fricking first place, he also didnt need it executed it such a garbage fashion. Watching s1-3 again is so grating because after Finn becomes such a creepy piece of shit for some forced development. He died for me when he ignored Lemon people suffering to simp for PB as a rebound. He regressed and ended a boring non character.
Princess
Oh you mean the shitty shoehorned character that the writers only made because they regretted backtracking on young PB after a single ep, that one?
Her introduction required Finn acting as an OoC crybaby after such God-tier episode as Dad's Dungeon and the introduction was as forced as their whole relationship and their break-up, not to mention how convenient it was for the show itself to forget in the later seasons that Finn had other princesses lusting after him with SOLE exception being the infamous Breezy meaning that he crying about girls made no sense in the first place and therefore the whole arc.
Shit character, shitty forced arc, she had NO PLACE in AT
>Thank Christ he ended up with someone as cool as Huntress Wizard
Daily reminder that he only got with HW at all because one of the writers was venting his opinions on relationships and projecting into the show but changed his mind at last moment and took pity of him and EVEN THEN said writer left the show before the finale so we barely got to see anything about their relationship because none of the other writers cared
These threads got me back into Adventure Time this year and I took everything said here as factual.
Then I started watching the show again
I was a fool
It really just seems like one or both of them is going back to their toxic ex because they're too tired of failing to change. They're bogged down by the weight of more years than any conscious mind should bear and their response to the horror is just "Well...I guess you're kinda the same so..."
It's so fricking toxic. It makes me want to pay a private detective to dig up info on all the writers romantic histories so I can make sense of why Human minds would contrive such a story.
The post-apocaypse stuff? Man, I dropped the show in season 5, but the Marceline-Ice King drama is exactly what kept me holding on by a thread for that whole long season.
It's the loudest complaint here (arguably) after Finn's breakup wit FP. There are many other points you could criticize it for, like the drama you pointed out
Also, said drama was actually a draw for some parts of the fanbase
They are both terrible influences on each other. I liked it better when I could just think of them as exes who would never really work out as a couple again.
Marceline is a literal demon/cropse with worms in her navel and daddy issues, while Bubblegum is a gum thing that has megalomaniac tendencies but she can't do wrong because she is the writer's pet. Being honest, Finn dodged a bullet with this. Thanks writers
Later Adventure time seasons were a lot worse than earlier ones, the writers fumbled with the serious narratives, with the most painfully half baked philosophical takes.
And don't get me started on Finn and Jake disappearing from the narrative. You can tell after a certain point the writers had no idea what to do with them.
I actually never minded this relationship. The implication since What Was Missing was that there was at least some type of past between the two that at least bordered on romance. I just find the fact that people go on full defense mode to defend the idea that PB must be a lesbian at all costs to be funny. Like even if you wanna go with the whole "comphet" excuse for the whole dating men in the past thing, PB doesn't seem like the type to limit herself one way or another. Even then, it doesn't really matter since she's dating Marcy.
Most of Ooo are probably just pansexual, it's a wacky landfilled with all sorts of beings with cultures and traditions detached from humanity that heteros or even homos are probably in the minority.
>Most of Ooo are probably just pansexual
Exactly. Like, I'm sure even Finn could be swayed one way or another. Arguably Jake was with Prismo. Trying to fit contemporary concepts of sexuality in a post-apocalyptic world like Ooo doesn't seem to make sense.
Makes sense from Marceline’s perspective to go for PB. Princess Bubblegum is also immortal and also lost track of her moral code.
Marcy is nowhere near as bad as PB.
It’s funny how the opposite was true in the early seasons.
Okay. I think it's kind of boring, but that figures as it was censored for 99% of the show.
What do you find awful about it?
>lost track of her moral code
Elaborate. Do you mean how she rules over her creations because they're literally helpless kindergarteners or how she does experiments on creatures that don't feel pain, are immortal and seem to enjoy it?
I wish we got to see more interactions between the two before them making up in What Was Missing. Would have been interesting to see two major characters who are friends of the MC have tension between each other.
True
It does not since PB is one of the fakest people she ever knew.
Cute pair
Girls should relearn what friendship is instead of forcing joyless lesbian crap into content for children
Shut up moron, there are thousands upon thousands of stories about female friendships. You get those every fricking month. Whereas lesbian romance is dime a dozen
I see the same Zoomer is trying to impress women in animation by harassing me for the sake of his career.
I'll forward your message to about 30 of them to help you do that, along with some men I email (you're a homosexual after all)
I'm also going to feature you in an article to immortalize you in ruining lesbian culture, which will feature all new explanations of how lesbianism works. Hope you appreciate that
Honestly the shit that made their characters shit had pretty much nothing to do with them being lesbians together. Bubbline is a much better ship using their original early season personalities, and was actively harmed as their characters changed more to be "Tyrant evil scientist" and "Boring mope".
Nah the problem was that by the time they officially became a couple, they already worked out most of their issues and reached that lovey dovey stage. The most interesting ships are the ones where the couple conflict with each other and that's why What Was Missing and the flashback in Obisidan was Bubbline at its most compelling even if it was underexplored.
They didn't really dedicate much time to exploring their romantic relationship at all in the show, which is baffling how some people try to claim it "took over the show". They had a single line of dialog together before What Was Missing, and the WWM was pretty much the peak of their relationship troubles. After that episode they pretty much became friends again and occasionally did stuff together, with most of the angst coming from Marcy thinking about her parents, or Simon, or being a vampire and not actually about her break up with PB.
This, as much as Obsidian advertised itself as the "Bubbline special", it was really more about Marceline dealing with her past and feelings about her mom. PB was mostly just her love interest companion who happened to be there, their initial breakup sets off the plot but nothing about their relationship was explored beyond that short scene.
What's with the sound direction in Distant Lands? Whose idea was it to give the miniseries a generic cinematic orchestral soundtrack?
>it was really more about Marceline dealing with her past and feelings about her mom.
which was a fricking bullshit retcon.
Throughout adventure time, Marceline was shown to have nothing but fond memories of her mother and a deep sorrow at having lost her at some point, never showed a single shred of resentment or bitterness or conflicted feelings.
Then suddenly in Obsidian the writers go "lol marceline thought her mother abandoned her out of fear all this time and is only just now finding out she didn't"
makes no fricking sense.
Don't forget anon that she finds out her mother didn't abandon her because she randomly found a blinking light that was in fact a phone message recorder with a message that was left for her 1000 years ago. No mathmatical spirit quest, just a lame feminine cop out for payoff. "The payoff for this b-plot you've been watching for like 35-40 minutes is I just hear a short message this character you've seen less that a minute or two in the entire series that makes me feel less sad."
I cried when she heard that message
It sucks. Is there really more to say?
you only hated this because you self-inserted as Finn
No. I self inserted as Mr. Creampuff.
It's weird to think this was essentially PB dating her grandson
I wonder how many other kingdoms this is true for. Like was everyone in the breakfast kingdom part of the same pig at some point?
PigGET
>Frick are you looking at, huh?
You only like it because you self insert as Marcy/PB
>self inserting is fine if it's dykes and perverse writers doing it
There's absolutely nothing wrong with young boys associating themselves with Finn, the creator intended for that.
What is wrong are the perverse writers, that didn't create the show, who have an affinity for abusing Finn (and the childhoods of many) and get their rocks off to lesbians in children's cartoons even if it means cucking Finn while going against the creator's vision. Let's not pretend this dogshit ship was well written either, both Marceline and PB have more chemistry with Finn than they ever did with each other.
It's not awful. Korrasami is an awful relationship because Korra doesn't deserve Asami. Bubbline had great development.
What I genuinely wanna know is WHY lesbians make you guys SEETH?
It's weird because to me, they're whatever, but watching people just have this blood boiling, teeth grinding hatred for them is both funny and bizarre
>more than FIVE years have passed
>still seething
KWAB
I'm convinced this only happened because the writers hate Finn and his fanbase.
They were paired up only to antagonize young boys who watched AT.
I have no idea why the writers hate males so much, but the intention behind this pairing was clear.
It was never about gay representation, it's about "sticking it to the chuds"
It was pushed by the fanbase and there was a bandwaggon beginning at the time, it was a fun idea either way.
Finn, however was never supposed to end up with either of them as they were there to reflect the impossible childhood crush. Finn was never romantically interested in Marceline and PB wasn't romantically interested in Finn.
How would it have even worked? It would have been plain weird.
Finn got much more shit besides being lead on by PB, anyway.
>It was pushed by the fanbase and there was a bandwaggon beginning at the time, it was a fun idea either way.
The Bubbaline fans were small in number and mocked endlessly for shipping 2 characters who've never shown any interest in each other.
>Finn, however was never supposed to end up with either of them as they were there to reflect the impossible childhood crush. Finn was never romantically interested in Marceline and PB wasn't romantically interested in Finn.
Because Finn couldn't' date them they should just frick each other?
>How would it have even worked? It would have been plain weird.
Weirder than 2 characters randomly become gay? They only showed interest in men until their song.
>The Bubbaline fans were small in number and mocked endlessly for shipping 2 characters who've never shown any interest in each other.
That was before WWM aired but when it premiered, it exploded in popularity and became one of the most biggest ships in the fandom. You can still find a lot of Bubbline art tracing back to 2011
>Because Finn couldn't' date them they should just frick each other?
My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship and saying otherwise is some strange self-insert entitlement.
>randomly become gay
Marceline definitely looks the type to turn out bi and both characters didn't have much romantic exploration to begin with. It's definitely believable. Have you not interacted with women?
Don't call me a troony, troony normalizer
>My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship and saying otherwise is some strange self-insert entitlement.
Anon the ship itself is just one example of the writers hating men.
>Marceline definitely looks the type to turn out bi and both characters didn't have much romantic exploration to begin with. It's definitely believable. Have you not interacted with women?
Yes and the curvature of this mans skulls proves he is a homosexual
>Anon the ship itself is just one example of the writers hating men.
Lesbians existing in the show by itself is a sign of the writers hating men? Is your problem with it being a homosexual relationship or about how it was executed?
Confused, but also sad, as he was still crushing on PB.
>My point with that is that Finn wasn't somehow hurt as a character because of the relationship
True, though I do wonder how he would’ve reacted to it in the early seasons.
Stop contradicting the established narrative, troony
>I have no idea why the writers hate males so much, but the intention behind this pairing was clear. It was never about gay representation, it's about "sticking it to the chuds"
Bubbline was old though, it might be actually be the OG lesbian ship in kids cartoons, I mean I guess Korrasami was the first to be confirmed and depicted onscreen but PB and Marcy was the first time a cartoon actually started seriously hinting towards such a relationship.
This was also back in 2011, a while before the whole culture war discourse and when Cinemaphile still found lesbians hot without making a weird persecution complex fuzz about it.
WWM is so damn old I need a dirt nap.
>no chemistry
>no values in common
>no hobbies in common
>marcelines adoptive father figure repeatedly kidnapped and tried to forcibly marry bubblegum
>this aspect is never brought up in their relationship
they were better off as slightly bitter exes.
They would never be each other's first or even fifth choice, but given both are over 1000 and people in their lives blip out like mayflies, what other options do you got?
Science Saru's first ever work was an Adventure Time episode, if only they animated something like gif related but with Princess Bubblegum and Marceline
People would die.
They owed Finn sex
Not Marceline, but I agree that PB should’ve been forced to do it as punishment for her crimes.
All the anons repeating this point and continuously seething about the ship are absolute morons and self-inserters. Why the frick should they own Finn sex. That's not how story-telling works, that's not how the real world works, you fricking incels.
They owed ME sex
I love that the hate for this will never die as long as there are people who also like it.
Do you think the hate ship will have a tsundere relationship with the love ship? Will it, ahem, sail?
I really don't have a problem with it
The roleswap AUs are pretty underrated
Looks like a "particular character trait swap" in this case. Cute art.
I can see this AU swap to be accurate for these two.
Ayo, my pal?
You can just feel the dip in quality and pure fun by the third season.
PB was more serious and formal in the earlier seasons, it was only later on that she actually started being more casual around Finn and Jake
I still think they're pretty cute together.
>Muh never shown interest
>Muh early season nostalgia
>Muh evil PB
>Muh lesbians
>Finncels
This is the perfect showcase for average Adventure Time thread post finale. Five years later and you homosexuals are still complaining about the same shit.
Personally I never cared for Finn ending up with either of them. What I did care about was the writers going hysterical and deciding that a happy well-meaning teenage boy had to be hated and looked down on as a gross projection of writer insecurities and self-loathing. He's a fricking kid, he didn't deserve that weird hatred.
Thank Christ he ended up with someone as cool as Huntress Wizard.
>a happy well-meaning teenage boy had to be hated and looked down on as a gross projection of writer insecurities and self-loathing. He's a fricking kid, he didn't deserve that weird hatred
I'm so tired of this argument when it's blatantly false. Everything terrible that happened to Finn was either self-inflicted or outright deserved. Every single time Finn ate shit was either for being a dickhead.
>Flame Princess
or because he was going through growing pains. Finn grew up by the end of the series, do you think life in a post apocalyptic mutated Earth was going to be easy for a boy? Finn knows and understands his situation and accepts it, embraces it even. When he met his mother he rejected her offer to be an immortal computer program and stated that he love d his life in ooo and Finn also got to bang Huntress wizard so I won't hear anymore fricking cucking or writers hating Finn arguments. Even in Fionna and Cake it's implied he's fricking her still.
For the love of God don't take these people seriously, they unironically think seasons 1-3 are the best and it's not even close if you watch the later seasons. Seasons 4-6 are kino.
>I'm so tired of this argument when it's blatantly false. Everything terrible that happened to Finn was either self-inflicted or outright deserved. Every single time Finn ate shit was either for being a dickhead.
...and who, anon, tell me, who decided to start writing him like that? Hmm?
>Who decided to write episodes for the show Anon!?
The writers? And Finn has been eating shit and getting fricked up since the early seasons, at least in the later seasons he was learning how to be a man. What the frick was the lesson in the early seasons when Magic Man turned him into a foot or when the clown nurses ACTIVELY ASSAULTED A CHILD. Both of those are from seasons one and three. So you tell me what's worse. Finn meeting his dad and having an emotional rough patch that matters in the story long term, or Finn being a foot for eleven minutes.
>or Finn being a foot for eleven minutes
Yes? Not everything has to be Steven Universe.
Now I know you're either bullshitting or a foot fetishist. Nobody likes the foot episode.
That episode was good for having the balls to say "maybe jerks just doesn't deserve kindness"
>Nobody likes the foot episode
Only nu-ATgays don't like it lmao I bet that you think that fricking Breezy is the peak of AT
You say that as a hyperbolized insult, but I bet that anon does.
You're not a "real fan" unless you ate up everything the writers threw down, because the show wasn't made by a bunch of people, it was sent to us by God
I watched from the start and that episode was boring.
>Finn being a foot for eleven minutes
What a legend of an episode.
It was ENTERTAINING.
>he was learning how to be a man
>learning how to be a man from late season AT
Oh lord.
>Nobody likes the foot episode
Delusional. That's why it went viral and the writers kept chasing the magic of Magic man for the rest of the show.
>So you tell me what's worse. Finn meeting his dad and having an emotional rough patch that matters in the story long term, or Finn being a foot for eleven minutes.
morons like you are why US animation went to shit.
>The U.S animation industry went to shit because I don't want feet fetish shit
>I suddenly didn't watch Adventure time when it came out because I prefer the objectively better quality of the later seasons.
>Even though I watched the first seasons first when they came out
Seasons 1-3 aren't as good as you remembered them. Finn's voice is actually grating at times, and animation can look like dog water. You guys are telling me you'd rather watch only 1-3 seaons of Adventure time?
>No Prismo
>No Farm world
>one of the best Litch Stories are no longer canon and less Litch content in general
>Ice King isn't funny
>No fricking bacon pancakes
Early Adventure time
No Prismo Good a Multiverse is shit
No Farm World Good multiverse is shit
Lich is an actual threat not a random mob that Finn defeats on the regular.
Ice is Funny and likable, Not some sob story that is meanless drama
Adventures in the world of fun and whimsy. Not le lore and drama boring hacks.
You need to be 18 to post here.
What else.
>Finn's voice is actually grating at times
I watched a foreign dub 🙂
>You guys are telling me you'd rather watch only 1-3 seaons of Adventure time?
Yes, absolutely. I've rewatched them recently while learning German and they hold up.
Later seasons had plenty of great ideas, but fumbled most of them. The fact that those ideas are wasted potential makes it even worse.
The animation is more fluid in the early seasons.
And most importantly of all, the show was enjoyable episode to episode, the dialogue itself felt natural and was entertaining. Even when the later seasons offered you a hint of good story, you would have to slog through stilted dialogue and animation to get there.
>Everything terrible that happened to Finn was either self-inflicted or outright deserved
Finn isn't a real person with agency, you fricking moron. Real human people decided to tell the story we got. Real human people made decisions and set their minds and hearts to work at casting Finn as a creepy little dick goblin who liked seeing his girlfriend fight other men.
You're so fricking moronic, holy shit. Please tell me you're not done with puberty yet. I need some kind of reason for you to be carrying around this dumb bullshit in your head.
Nice job replying. I know Finn isn't a real person with agency, and while I agree the Fire and Ice episode was fricking trash and the way they did Finn and Flame Princess was horrible, and I didn't like what they did with the break up arch. I feel like it went on for too long but, it does serve a purpose in adding depth and growth for Finn in the later seasons where he and FP are friends again, and then finds Huntress Wizard to have an item with. Regardless, the episode you mentioned did serve a purpose long term, and it was essential to Finn's overall growth as a character. I'm starting to think a majority of people who are Finncels and hate the later seasons didn't watch anything past the Fire and Ice special.
The problem is he didnt need that growth in the fricking first place, he also didnt need it executed it such a garbage fashion. Watching s1-3 again is so grating because after Finn becomes such a creepy piece of shit for some forced development. He died for me when he ignored Lemon people suffering to simp for PB as a rebound. He regressed and ended a boring non character.
Princess
Oh you mean the shitty shoehorned character that the writers only made because they regretted backtracking on young PB after a single ep, that one?
Her introduction required Finn acting as an OoC crybaby after such God-tier episode as Dad's Dungeon and the introduction was as forced as their whole relationship and their break-up, not to mention how convenient it was for the show itself to forget in the later seasons that Finn had other princesses lusting after him with SOLE exception being the infamous Breezy meaning that he crying about girls made no sense in the first place and therefore the whole arc.
Shit character, shitty forced arc, she had NO PLACE in AT
>Thank Christ he ended up with someone as cool as Huntress Wizard
Daily reminder that he only got with HW at all because one of the writers was venting his opinions on relationships and projecting into the show but changed his mind at last moment and took pity of him and EVEN THEN said writer left the show before the finale so we barely got to see anything about their relationship because none of the other writers cared
These threads got me back into Adventure Time this year and I took everything said here as factual.
Then I started watching the show again
I was a fool
It really just seems like one or both of them is going back to their toxic ex because they're too tired of failing to change. They're bogged down by the weight of more years than any conscious mind should bear and their response to the horror is just "Well...I guess you're kinda the same so..."
It's so fricking toxic. It makes me want to pay a private detective to dig up info on all the writers romantic histories so I can make sense of why Human minds would contrive such a story.
sleepy sleepy sleepy sleepy
It's weird they were paired together since they share nothing in common in terms of interests.
They both love music, watch the show.
Why do nu-ATgays always assume people don't like it because of the lesbians? My breaking point was the Ice King-Marceline drama.
The post-apocaypse stuff? Man, I dropped the show in season 5, but the Marceline-Ice King drama is exactly what kept me holding on by a thread for that whole long season.
It's the loudest complaint here (arguably) after Finn's breakup wit FP. There are many other points you could criticize it for, like the drama you pointed out
Also, said drama was actually a draw for some parts of the fanbase
What can one say that already haven't bee said?
That you're fat.
They are both terrible influences on each other. I liked it better when I could just think of them as exes who would never really work out as a couple again.
The top ten episodes of Adventure Time were made after season 3.
t. Finncel
what, the She Ra thread doesn't have enough saps to bait?
I don't even care about that rebooted show. But i am really hate how it exist. Mainly because it spam alot of threads here. It's really annoying.
ESL
Awful, my foot. I think Bubbline is legitimately great.
Marceline is a literal demon/cropse with worms in her navel and daddy issues, while Bubblegum is a gum thing that has megalomaniac tendencies but she can't do wrong because she is the writer's pet. Being honest, Finn dodged a bullet with this. Thanks writers
Whoever this stupid looking kid is. I want to punch his ugly face.
>pic related
Anon you have a terrible taste, and i suggest you leave this board site forever. And never come back.
Nuke your deviantart account, you spaz.
Later Adventure time seasons were a lot worse than earlier ones, the writers fumbled with the serious narratives, with the most painfully half baked philosophical takes.
And don't get me started on Finn and Jake disappearing from the narrative. You can tell after a certain point the writers had no idea what to do with them.
>it's awful because Finn didn't frick them
The eternal Finncel.
I actually never minded this relationship. The implication since What Was Missing was that there was at least some type of past between the two that at least bordered on romance. I just find the fact that people go on full defense mode to defend the idea that PB must be a lesbian at all costs to be funny. Like even if you wanna go with the whole "comphet" excuse for the whole dating men in the past thing, PB doesn't seem like the type to limit herself one way or another. Even then, it doesn't really matter since she's dating Marcy.
Most of Ooo are probably just pansexual, it's a wacky landfilled with all sorts of beings with cultures and traditions detached from humanity that heteros or even homos are probably in the minority.
>Most of Ooo are probably just pansexual
Exactly. Like, I'm sure even Finn could be swayed one way or another. Arguably Jake was with Prismo. Trying to fit contemporary concepts of sexuality in a post-apocalyptic world like Ooo doesn't seem to make sense.
What so awful about it, yo?