A) Grouse about or flaunt the homosexuality
B) Don’t speak in that weird accent
>LGB
Sure >T
Nothing stops a story about trans people from being /good/, but calling it /wholesome/ is difficult if it serves to condone or uncritically reinforce the idea that men can become women or vice versa.
All sodomites, dykes, and troonys should be locked up in mental asylums so as to protect society from their predatory and destructive grooming ways.
They are biologically invalid. And mentally ill. All of them. They’re broken. Just look around. Nothing in nature functions like that. No life can exist with gays as a model. It’s destructive and violent and horrible for human civilizations.
>LGB
Sure >T
Nothing stops a story about trans people from being /good/, but calling it /wholesome/ is difficult if it serves to condone or uncritically reinforce the idea that men can become women or vice versa.
I can count on one hand the amount of gay characters/stories I've liked or have been empathetic too. 98% of the time their stories revolve around hypersexuality, and I just check out immediately at that point.
I want to say that would be because the overwhelming majority of the time, straight characters sexuality never needs to come into the story unless they're a hypersexual character. What immediately comes to mind is Banshee- the main character is a hypersexualized straight guy that tries to bang almost everything he sees. He's got so many red flags and trauma from prison that in the first (best) season, he's constantly at odds with every single cop in the police department. Later, in season two- that sexuality is DEVELOPED upon. It causes actual conflict at work. Brock's opinions deeply change about him when he starts banging a deputee.
Whereas you have gay characters who are just like "ahaha sex!" How can you write a gay character WITHOUT talking about their sexuality? The closest thing would be archer, where ray is constantly ragged on and bullied for being gay. But they do it because he's static, he's a complete butthole, and he has barely any character development past the first season. The showwriters don't know what to do with him, so they "reveal" information about his past later to drive the plot- but that doesn't change who he is or how he acts. He might as well not even be gay because everyone makes fun of him being a useless "gross" cripple for 3/4 of the show anyways.
So creating a gay character lately, for any show, becomes "How do I drive the actual plot forward using a characters sexuality, AND not offend leftists or rightists?" Which is almost completely impossible, so instead they just become diversity castings for extra grants.
I’m cool with them so long as they don’t
A) Grouse about or flaunt the homosexuality
B) Don’t speak in that weird accent
Every gay does this because it's half the fun of being a raging homo. The other half is not putting up with women.
>Every gay does this because it's half the fun of being a raging homo
Speak for yourself. Not every gay man wants to stick every dick they see up their holes like you do homosexual.
Gays kissing is gross, and I don't even hate gay people. I was watching the Chucky tv series and I had to look away when the 2 gay kids would kiss like once an episode. It's just unnatural looking and 20 years of watching TV where gay people are the butt of the joke makes me not take it seriously.
How would you feel about a movie where, say, there's a gay serial murderer but the weirdest thing you actually see them doing is (genuine) kissing, and then murdering? It happens often enough to "feel real".
Sounds like Chris Keller from Oz
9 months ago
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I think that's exactly what I was thinking of. I haven't seen the show, but reading a description of the character- it seems specifically designed to creep out the (straight) viewer with short moments of affection. Followed up by brutal shocking violence, forcing the viewers brain to fight over what part of the behavior is most disgusting to them. And driving the plot forward.
*their
Why even reply to him? Why waste your time, especially if you aren't going to contribute anything in your post? At least attach a meme next time or something.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry I just hate when people confuse there and their
9 months ago
Anonymous
Oz is a very good show, but its so late 90s/early2000s it hurts.
What do you call someone that diddles baby animals
I think that still counts as zoophilia or zoosadism, pedophilia is specifically for human children
9 months ago
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>it seems specifically designed to creep out the (straight) viewer with short moments of affection
Or if you're a woman, arouse
Oz had such a big female fanbase back in the day
9 months ago
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As a gay guy who looks and acts the "serial gay murderer" type I can firmly assure you that women have never ever been attracted to me. So I just don't think that's quite what the director was going for.
9 months ago
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What the artist intends doesn't always translate to how some audiences take it tho
15 year old girl named Kim moves from London to Brighton and falls in love with a carefree, wild, and unfortunately for Kim, straight girl named Sugar.
I'm sceptical of this result. The paper doesn't include all the images used, just a single "representative" image from each category. My first suspicion was that the other same-sex-kiss images might be more graphic/sexual than the simple affectionate kiss seen here, but then I realised that I personally don't feel a disgust response even from the maggots picture- probably because it's low-res and greyscale.
Yeah I'm getting nothing from that maggot pic either, bad choice of image if they were trying to conjure up strong feelings
Wonder what Cinemaphile would be like if people could edit their posts
Disaster
At the very least Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is very homoerotic, and based on interviews Robert Englund seems to have been the only one who realized it during production
How would you feel about a movie where, say, there's a gay serial murderer but the weirdest thing you actually see them doing is (genuine) kissing, and then murdering? It happens often enough to "feel real".
I can speak for experience but even fujos sometimes can get disgusted.
Some fujos only like 2d and the ones that like to watch real guys are usually extremely beautiful or actors from a tv series like sherlok hannibal or smt.
Sorry, nightmare on elm street is homosex gay gay horror? I watched them as a kid with my brother and don't remember a bit of anything "weird" other than the the main antagonist having run a trowel across kids backs and left brutal red welts.
Oz is a very good show, but its so late 90s/early2000s it hurts.
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I think that still counts as zoophilia or zoosadism, pedophilia is specifically for human children
I will absolutely check it out then. Thank you. That's specifically what Im here for.
At the very least Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is very homoerotic, and based on interviews Robert Englund seems to have been the only one who realized it during production
Girls liked Hannibal show shipping Hannibal with the police. Thats because the characters were characters and there was some tension between them and they were handsome, so girls lost their shit
Lgbt the characters dont work. They are not interesting, their sexuality is their only character. Also they are either ugly or 2 actors being uncomfortable. Your pic related fails at pandering because its trying too hard for fujos to care, and real gays are usually groomers, they want to see a 40 yo man grooming some minor
Childish puns aside, there's nothing 'wholesome' about violently forcing your penis into another person's anus, whether that person is a man or a woman. It's a filthy and degrading practice and is at best a grotesque imitation of sex. It should be outlawed and those who engage in it treated as deviants.
>I'd rather live in a Muslim country than in one dominated by the Anal American Empire and its drive to legalize anal-fisting across the world. >I'd rather live in a third world shithole than the richest country on earth
Says a lot
9 months ago
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>I'd rather live in a third world shithole than the richest country on earth
I think my meaning will be perfectly obvious to the vast majority of people, but I don't want anyone to think I'm picking on a moron so I'm going to end the conversation here.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Your meaning was moronic
9 months ago
Anonymous
I sincerely doubt you could tell me what I meant without distorting my meaning beyond all recognition.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You made an overblown statement you don't actually stand by because you're a pussy
9 months ago
Anonymous
Just as I thought, you're moronic. Have a nice day—don't forget to put on a helmet if you leave the house.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Its exactly what you did b***h, cope and seethe
9 months ago
Anonymous
Once again someone who claims to be leaving a conversation gets easily baited back
A story as old as time
Childish puns aside, there's nothing 'wholesome' about violently forcing your penis into another person's anus, whether that person is a man or a woman. It's a filthy and degrading practice and is at best a grotesque imitation of sex. It should be outlawed and those who engage in it treated as deviants.
Yes it does. Are you denying that there's poop up someone's butt? Are you trying to say that the majority of gay men don't partake in sticking their parts in other men's butts? It should be part of the LGBT stories how they loosen their butts and start leaking poo everywhere. Anyways, lots of people have parasites/worms and don't know it, it can cause strange behaviors, maybe that includes wanting to spread itself by modifying a straight man's behavior to want to pp more butts to the point of obsession
You can't be sure of that, there are plenty of foreigners that come over to the western world that don't have the same level of cleanliness that can easily infest an otherwise healthy people. Maybe they should force people who come from other countries to go on antiparasitics for a bit. It should probably be required if you go to another country too, once you come back I mean
>Are you denying that there's poop up someone's butt?
Yes. When you frick a guy, usually they squirt water up their ass to "clean out" so to speak. There are a bunch of foods they eat to make this easier. >Are you trying to say that the majority of gay men don't partake in sticking their parts in other men's butts?
Yes. Most gay sex is oral or oral fixated in some way, at least in my experience. > It should be part of the LGBT stories how they loosen their butts and start leaking poo everywhere.
Most of that crowd are 1/10 unfrickables-even to eachother- who literally never get sex. How would they know? >Anyways, lots of people have parasites/worms and don't know it, it can cause strange behaviors, maybe that includes wanting to spread itself by modifying a straight man's behavior to want to pp more butts to the point of obsession
I am one hundred percent sure parasites in the water cause gay sex among blacks- and in prisons. But most (youngerL white guys take such an insane wienertail of antidepressants and amphetamines and antibiotics that it would kill ANY parasite. >modifying a straight mans behavior
Further on that-meth, and amphetamines will both make you gay. Seriously. Seen many cases.
That's interesting, I imagine some of them are too far gone in depravity and think the poop isn't a big deal, that's people in general if they become that way. I wonder how many get lazy and don't clean themselves out properly? I bet it smells terrible.
I'll be fair and say if a show is doing nasty stuff in the first place, regardless of who's coupling, should at least bring up the potential downsides of doing any sort of intercourse. I didn't know that butt loosening was even possible until that Avacado guy's tweet about leaking in the dentist showed up.
I wonder why there isn't more of a pharmaceutical interest in getting people checked for parasites/worms in any part of the medical system. It feels like something they would do as part of a routine physical so they could squeeze even more money out of people. Vets do it all the time to house pets, but they don't check their owners for anything, so then you have those stories of the owners sleeping and then realizing their cat had parasites crawling out of their butt on their bed and pillow. How am I supposed to believe someone the owner didn't get infected?
People are disgusting, so that's why I think it's more than likely an unrepresented statistic on how many people are actually infested with something
9 months ago
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>You can't be sure of that
Maybe not 100% sure but I'm pretty certain we have decent stats per country on how often people suffer from parasites, since they're a pretty big deal. From what I gather most people who have worms are little kids who put their dirty hands in their mouths at daycare.
9 months ago
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I feel like it comes to a point where if the parasite/worm doesn't immediately destroy your health, most people can pass it off as something that occasionally happens and there's nothing to do about it, especially since the majority of doctors don't check for that sort of thing. For example, someone might say, oh my butthole itches sometimes, but maybe it's because I haven't cleaned myself enough, or maybe it's because it was so hot out today, but then it turns out there were pinworms all along and the only reason you found out was because you saw a video or someone talking about it. Up until that point, you have that person scratching themselves, maybe even in public restrooms and other public areas and not washing their hands, because they were just "adjusting" their underwear/pants, so now you have someone spreading pinworm eggs without knowing it.
The little kid thing makes sense, they don't wash their hands frequently and love putting things in their mouths, but unfortunately there's just as many adults who don't wash their hands either and workers who may be too lazy to clean whatever it is they need to clean in public areas properly. Anyways, I agree that maybe not the majority of people have infestations, but I do believe it's a lot more than we're told, because it's only when it's seriously debilitating is when someone goes to the doctor to get it checked out thoroughly
9 months ago
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I mean I guess its possible but it seems very speculative in the end
9 months ago
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Yeah. I mainly wish there was like an optional thing to go alongside your physical to test for parasites. They're already testing your blood and stool in the first place, so it's not like it'd be any more inconvienent than it already is. They do it all the time for dumb animals, so I don't see why humans are exempt, especially ones that share households with animals
>Are you denying that there's poop up someone's butt?
Yes. When you frick a guy, usually they squirt water up their ass to "clean out" so to speak. There are a bunch of foods they eat to make this easier. >Are you trying to say that the majority of gay men don't partake in sticking their parts in other men's butts?
Yes. Most gay sex is oral or oral fixated in some way, at least in my experience. > It should be part of the LGBT stories how they loosen their butts and start leaking poo everywhere.
Most of that crowd are 1/10 unfrickables-even to eachother- who literally never get sex. How would they know? >Anyways, lots of people have parasites/worms and don't know it, it can cause strange behaviors, maybe that includes wanting to spread itself by modifying a straight man's behavior to want to pp more butts to the point of obsession
I am one hundred percent sure parasites in the water cause gay sex among blacks- and in prisons. But most (youngerL white guys take such an insane wienertail of antidepressants and amphetamines and antibiotics that it would kill ANY parasite. >modifying a straight mans behavior
Further on that-meth, and amphetamines will both make you gay. Seriously. Seen many cases.
>I am one hundred percent sure parasites in the water cause gay sex among blacks- and in prisons.
I don't think it causes gay sex specifically as much as it causes a general lack of inhibition in all parts of life, including sexual acts you wouldn't do in usually
>Childish puns aside, there's nothing 'wholesome' about violently forcing your penis into another person's anus, whether that person is a man or a woman. It's a filthy and degrading practice and is at best a grotesque imitation of sex. It should be outlawed and those who engage in it treated as deviants.
veganal penetration for reproductive purposes is the most satisfying coom you'll ever have for a reason.
gays are gross to normal people (99% of humanity). You will just have to deal with it.
And T is just mental illness and ideological bs that don't belong to the screen, unless you are making a documentary
Girls liked Hannibal show shipping Hannibal with the police. Thats because the characters were characters and there was some tension between them and they were handsome, so girls lost their shit
Lgbt the characters dont work. They are not interesting, their sexuality is their only character. Also they are either ugly or 2 actors being uncomfortable. Your pic related fails at pandering because its trying too hard for fujos to care, and real gays are usually groomers, they want to see a 40 yo man grooming some minor
Nothing changes about a character because the writer decides to make them attracted to the same sex, only bad or good writing decides if a character is good or not
>Nothing changes about a character because the writer decides to make them attracted to the same sex
This is absolutely incorrect. I could not possibly disagree more. When a writer "makes" a character attracted to the opposite sex, is it just moronic virtue signalling? Is that totally irrelevent to the show? Great, you just wasted my time and grossed out the straights. Is it driving the plot forward? Does it have significant value to the show? Great, then the characters sexuality ABSOLUTELY matters because homosex revolves around dominance and understanding and how sex is fundementally DIFFERENT when you're both men with needs.
>Every gay does this because it's half the fun of being a raging homo
Speak for yourself. Not every gay man wants to stick every dick they see up their holes like you do homosexual.
I meant the "gay voice" part. Have you ever gone up to mcdonalds and ordered in a funny voice or something? It's like that all the time. It's an in joke and a culture that the server might not get, but it's FUN because you do.
I think that is a bunch of nonsense, its not wasting time to depict a character who happens to have an attribute. Why have a Christian or israeli character ever either then? Neither needs to be important to the plot to just exist and be part of the world that exists.
>who happens to have an attribute. Why have a Christian or israeli character ever either then?
Because it tells you how that characters moral compass and belief system works, and preludes and foreshadows how they will act in a given situation before they act. As an example, imagine a christian man we see forced to turn to crime. Do you think he's going to violently murder a witness, or try to pay him off and reason with him first?
One could say the same thing about a gay character in a similar situation. If a gay character becomes a criminal, how will it impact his life then if he's thrown into a life with macho gangsters who he needs to keep it secret from at all costs to keep his position. Will he just be celebate and lie about his background, or will he try to live a double life somehow?
Any story can have a purpose, a israeli or Christian faith can be irrelevant to a character OR it can impact the story, either way both they and gay people do exist in society and are a part of it regardless of if it does become important.
9 months ago
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>Any story can have a purpose, a israeli or Christian faith can be irrelevant to a character
Maybe in writing. In screenplays, screentime actually matters. Wasting everyones time by having a character say "uhm actually schweetie im gay" in the middle of a normal conversation can potentially cost tens of, if not hundreds of, thousands just during the time everyone is standing there while that line is recorded. That's not done- except in recent film. Which is one of a million reasons WHY recent film is suffering from such bloated budgets
9 months ago
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>having a character say "uhm actually schweetie im gay" in the middle of a normal conversation
When has this been the introduction to a gay character in anything in the last 10 years?
Thats not a problem of a character being gay, thats just shit writing. No character trait should be outright stated. No one says "btw I'm israeli" randomly.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_comedy_television_series_with_LGBT_characters
About 60% of the entries in the 2010's did exactly introduce their characters like that. >Thats not a problem of a character being gay, thats just shit writing. No character trait should be outright stated.
But that is exactly what they do. YES the writing is shit. But what I'm saying is, the only examples where you can develop a character sexually, are examples where being homosexual actually fits in the story. You have to show them kissing guys, or dating, or whatever. And the problem you run into with most shows is that they don't ever have time for that unless it's the focus. Think modern family. You cannot have a homosexual character without homosexuality. And that is an immediate turnoff to 90% of audiences. So most of the time, instead, you just get shitty writing and a straight male actor being super uncomfortable.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>About 60% of the entries in the 2010's did exactly introduce their characters like that.
I have not seen any of this shit anon, so fair to you if that is actually a thing but I have never once seen it >And that is an immediate turnoff to 90% of audiences.
Only audiences in the western world matter for most shows, and in most of those places people aren't remotely as grossed out by gay people as you seem to think.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is actually such a moronic and braindead comparison.
Someone being a gang member or whatever shouldn't have any correlation with which gender gets him off. This is what's so moronic with you morons, what sexual attraction a character has really shouldn't affect the story that he's a part of, unless he's in a porn movie or something. I really hate this moronic mindset the west has that makes it seem like sexual attraction is something that makes you really special. It really isn't. It's just a really cheap way for companies to virtue signal and appeal to incredibly gullible morons.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Someone being a gang member or whatever shouldn't have any correlation with which gender gets him off.
Nor does it with the Christian example the other person mentioned
9 months ago
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Christian and religiou people in general hold the belief that killing people is deeply sinful.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So? That doesn't make it less or more of a plot than hiding being gay in a homophobic setting. Your argument esentially comes down to "I don't like the idea for that plot therefore its not one worth telling by anyone" which ignores that you're not the only one who movies or tv series gets made for. I don't have any interest in seeing a Christian self-pittying about being a violent criminal, doesn't mean someone can't make that a plot.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>a homophobic setting
Get over yourself you pathetic snowflake, lmao
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, seethe
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Your argument esentially comes down to "I don't like the idea for that plot therefore its not one worth telling by anyone"
No, it comes down to the fact that your sexual kinks really are a frivolous matter in a movie with a setting that's trying to be serious, because 90% of the people around you don't give a shit about it. It's just virtue signaling for morons. >Christian self-pittying about being a violent criminal
It's not about self-pitying, it's about a character having internal conflicts because he needs to break his moral code. That's more interesting than "boohoo, people around me don't applaud me for having gay sex with men, please pity me :(".
Kek this has literally never stopped anyone, majority of Italian mobsters and Mexican cartel members are Catholic
And you thinks criminal mobs never had any homosexuals in them?
9 months ago
Anonymous
Its not a kink to be gay moron
9 months ago
Anonymous
It's just a fetish for being attracted to the same sex. It's about as interesting for a movie as being a bdsm enthusiast. You moron.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No it isnt
9 months ago
Anonymous
A kink or fetish doesnt remove attraction or interest in other stuff
9 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, it can.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No it doesn't, that would be more like a paraphilia
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thats you opinion,one that isnt shared by pretty much all researchers, and more importantly to me, me.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Fetishes are defined as bizzare sexual kinks that people may have. Which is what homosexuality is. >but muh gender studies researchers
Literally a non-argument >me
Your opinion is valueless, then.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Fetishes are defined as bizzare sexual kinks that people may have. Which is what homosexuality is.
Nope. Neither bizzare nor a kink or fetish. >>but muh gender studies researchers >Literally a non-argument
You don't decide what a fetish or kink is, actual sexologists do. You can seethe and cry about it until you die. Your nonscientific opinions will never be true and we'll beat your attempts at undermining us into submission like we already do in most of the civilized world. >>me >Your opinion is valueless, then.
My opinion is the only one of value actually
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Nope. Neither bizzare nor a kink or fetish.
Yeah, it definitely is. It goes against the whole point of sexual intercourse, which is to reproduce. In that aspect, even fetishes like bdsm or feet are less bizarre than homosexuality, because with those you can at least still be attracted to the sex with which you can breed.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not that anon, but you come off as heavily closeted when you see homosexuality as the sort of "ultimate taboo". Doubley so when you end your poinnt with multiple 'buzzwords' like "attracted, sex, and breed" all in one breath.
Not that I especially think you are. But someone is gonna give you shit for it if you complain like that in real life about homosex, in that particular way, and I wanted to let you know.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not him, but that's nice of you to point out to him. Good guy
9 months ago
Anonymous
I hate homosexualry and even I know homosexuality isn’t a “kink.” Convinced this is a false flagger
9 months ago
Anonymous
It literally is if you look at the definition of what kinks and fetishes are.
9 months ago
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It really isnt
9 months ago
Anonymous
>And you thinks criminal mobs never had any homosexuals in them?
That has no relevance to if Christians are also hypocrites in crime
9 months ago
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>Christians are also hypocrites in crime
That's what makes it interesting for a movie.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Not to me, its boring and overdone
9 months ago
Anonymous
Funny because I feel the exact opposite
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is literally just your opinion, you want one type of story and not another because you peprsonally have some idea of what makes a story valuable.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Kek this has literally never stopped anyone, majority of Italian mobsters and Mexican cartel members are Catholic
9 months ago
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Religious people dont hold that belief any more than agnostics or atheists
9 months ago
Anonymous
Most romantic movies need to have interesting characters and conflicts that are more than just "my parents don't approve of me kissing dicks"
9 months ago
Anonymous
>This is what's so moronic with you morons, what sexual attraction a character has really shouldn't affect the story that he's a part of, unless he's in a porn movie or something.
So there should never be any romance stories whatsoever?
9 months ago
Anonymous
This comment is so fricking moronic, pornos are not the only movies with sex or romance in them
Grossing out some straight people doesn't seem to really prevent shows with gay characters to become successful so why would writers realistically care?
I know so many straight guys who have stopped watching shows-and whose families have stopped watching shows- because of gross gay characters being where they shouldn't.
You're on Cinemaphile, you and people you know don't exactly represent normies. You can cope all you want but tons of shows with gay shit continue to be popular enough that the minority you belong to don't matter.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I'm gay but okay
9 months ago
Anonymous
Nothing more non-normie than Cinemaphile gay
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Nothing more non-normie than Cinemaphile gay
Not sure what this has to do with good vs bad writing. Seems like you're going on an off topic tangent about some personal crusade against straights/republicans when factually, most gays are written as "Haha Im gay" once an episode. Not only being a pathetic waste of time and money, but also a personal insult to people who actually want to see gay characters reperesented.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thats what you're like in real life tho
9 months ago
Anonymous
those are just "predators" pretending to be gay guys so they can get close in with girls and brutally rape them.
9 months ago
Anonymous
So much less cool than the real Predator
9 months ago
Anonymous
Are there female predators or are they all gay and reproduce asexually or with artificial wombs? Deep questions
9 months ago
Anonymous
They're like dwarves, you just can't tell which are female
9 months ago
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>those are just "predators" pretending to be predators
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why would a gay guy go after women? Your comment don't make a lot of sense
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why would you expect better from Hollywood?
9 months ago
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>I'm gay
Yikes
9 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you here and why do you hang out with straight people who get mad at gay shit? Seems very selfhating honestly
Every frickin' straight girl watched this and thought "I could've fixed him!"
I hate women so much it makes me hate them more for making me feel so much hate.
>Every frickin' straight girl watched this and thought "I could've fixed him!"
Headcanon, some weirdos doing something and it getting attention doesn't mean many people are doing it
They are not even gay stories for the gay. They are overly romanticized version for women. The female gaze. Has nothing to do with promoting gays. It is just catching up to anime.
I'm actually german. I just enjoy european cinema and liked some of Lukas Moodysson's other films (Lilja 4-ever in particular).
Wasn't this movie super popular in Sweden?
I was absolutely sure "the great pretender" was going to do this until the ending. Worth bringing up even though it's anime. I think they rewrote the ending because of netflix.
So? That doesn't make it less or more of a plot than hiding being gay in a homophobic setting. Your argument esentially comes down to "I don't like the idea for that plot therefore its not one worth telling by anyone" which ignores that you're not the only one who movies or tv series gets made for. I don't have any interest in seeing a Christian self-pittying about being a violent criminal, doesn't mean someone can't make that a plot.
Hiding being gay in a homophobic setting is certainly a plot, albeit vague. But you are once again trying to deny the existence of token gay characters as a whole.
I have never denied that tokens exist of all type, I'm denying that they're the only thing that exist and that that would be an excuse to never have gay characters
Well, if this is you here, then yeah, you are denying the reality that most gays in film and tv are strictly token inserts. Even if it is sarcastically.
>About 60% of the entries in the 2010's did exactly introduce their characters like that.
I have not seen any of this shit anon, so fair to you if that is actually a thing but I have never once seen it >And that is an immediate turnoff to 90% of audiences.
Only audiences in the western world matter for most shows, and in most of those places people aren't remotely as grossed out by gay people as you seem to think.
I watched Brokeback Mountain.
Why do people keep acting like the reason the mcs in it couldn't be happy was because "le society was not accepting of le gays"? It was pretty clear their main issue was that they were both acting like addicts obsessed with gay sex and had very little self-control. They literally just start fricking in front of one the guy's house after they haven't seen each other for years.
Hunger games syndrome. It was popular enough that a bunch of classrooms brought it up and had "debates" about it where the group of normies screaming the loudest won. Now everyone thinks the ending is somehow about empowering women and not about how gale fricking murdered katniss's little sister, defeating all of her sacrifice and work in minutes- and about how women are emotional and fail to see the bigger picture.
if you literally mean literal normal homosexuals- then probably because that's the target audience of what has actually been airing on television lately.
i honestly didn't care for heartstopper. it's pretty flat. the only time i thought the writing was good was the scene where nick came out to his mom. none of the characters have very much nuance. it's still better than euphoria.
I've put my dick in every orifice of both genders and even though veganas feel the best they are also the most disgusting. Overall gay sex is a cleaner experience because gays know how to keep their holes clean. I don't think any women even douche their buttholes
Wholesome within their cultural sphere of influence*
*sucks your dick every day for the rest of your life*
sounds very unwholesome
Fine with me
All sodomites, dykes, and troonys should be locked up in mental asylums so as to protect society from their predatory and destructive grooming ways.
They are biologically invalid. And mentally ill. All of them. They’re broken. Just look around. Nothing in nature functions like that. No life can exist with gays as a model. It’s destructive and violent and horrible for human civilizations.
I’m cool with them so long as they don’t
A) Grouse about or flaunt the homosexuality
B) Don’t speak in that weird accent
>narcissistic, nihilistic hedonism can be wholesome
no
None of that applies
>REACTION_AS_MAGGOTS.PNG
more like holesome
i tried to watch gay porn once, but it was just really gross to me.i dont know how gays do it
>LGB
Sure
>T
Nothing stops a story about trans people from being /good/, but calling it /wholesome/ is difficult if it serves to condone or uncritically reinforce the idea that men can become women or vice versa.
>israeli propaganda can be effective
I would've watch the show if the twink is not hideous
mmmmh yes, shitdick.
Who's your favorite gay pornstar?
cole bently
Paul Walker
Men are gross
troony
You seem upset.
I can count on one hand the amount of gay characters/stories I've liked or have been empathetic too. 98% of the time their stories revolve around hypersexuality, and I just check out immediately at that point.
I want to say that would be because the overwhelming majority of the time, straight characters sexuality never needs to come into the story unless they're a hypersexual character. What immediately comes to mind is Banshee- the main character is a hypersexualized straight guy that tries to bang almost everything he sees. He's got so many red flags and trauma from prison that in the first (best) season, he's constantly at odds with every single cop in the police department. Later, in season two- that sexuality is DEVELOPED upon. It causes actual conflict at work. Brock's opinions deeply change about him when he starts banging a deputee.
Whereas you have gay characters who are just like "ahaha sex!" How can you write a gay character WITHOUT talking about their sexuality? The closest thing would be archer, where ray is constantly ragged on and bullied for being gay. But they do it because he's static, he's a complete butthole, and he has barely any character development past the first season. The showwriters don't know what to do with him, so they "reveal" information about his past later to drive the plot- but that doesn't change who he is or how he acts. He might as well not even be gay because everyone makes fun of him being a useless "gross" cripple for 3/4 of the show anyways.
So creating a gay character lately, for any show, becomes "How do I drive the actual plot forward using a characters sexuality, AND not offend leftists or rightists?" Which is almost completely impossible, so instead they just become diversity castings for extra grants.
Every gay does this because it's half the fun of being a raging homo. The other half is not putting up with women.
>Every gay does this because it's half the fun of being a raging homo
Speak for yourself. Not every gay man wants to stick every dick they see up their holes like you do homosexual.
Of course
No
Then die homosexual.
Do it yourself you lazy pussy
Stories about teh gayz can also just be like, good movies.
Like The Lost Boys, best vampire movie
Gays kissing is gross, and I don't even hate gay people. I was watching the Chucky tv series and I had to look away when the 2 gay kids would kiss like once an episode. It's just unnatural looking and 20 years of watching TV where gay people are the butt of the joke makes me not take it seriously.
Yeah, it is disgusting. The reaction is similar to looking at a bucket of maggots. They even did a study on that, kek.
I've never had that problem, guess because I've always known gay people
...or maybe coz you're a homosexual as well.
Waste of trips.
I'm supposed to care what some sensitive homosexuals feel?
Havn't seen this, what is it about?
no you can get all the aids you want. you should just know that every normal human knows how disgusting you are.
Again, why would I care?
Based
have a nice day
Kill me yourself pussy
Sounds like Chris Keller from Oz
I think that's exactly what I was thinking of. I haven't seen the show, but reading a description of the character- it seems specifically designed to creep out the (straight) viewer with short moments of affection. Followed up by brutal shocking violence, forcing the viewers brain to fight over what part of the behavior is most disgusting to them. And driving the plot forward.
Why even reply to him? Why waste your time, especially if you aren't going to contribute anything in your post? At least attach a meme next time or something.
Sorry I just hate when people confuse there and their
Oz is a very good show, but its so late 90s/early2000s it hurts.
I think that still counts as zoophilia or zoosadism, pedophilia is specifically for human children
>it seems specifically designed to creep out the (straight) viewer with short moments of affection
Or if you're a woman, arouse
Oz had such a big female fanbase back in the day
As a gay guy who looks and acts the "serial gay murderer" type I can firmly assure you that women have never ever been attracted to me. So I just don't think that's quite what the director was going for.
What the artist intends doesn't always translate to how some audiences take it tho
Normies can frick off
15 year old girl named Kim moves from London to Brighton and falls in love with a carefree, wild, and unfortunately for Kim, straight girl named Sugar.
Always a bummer when that happens
>calling anybody else a homosexual
El oh el the irony
I'm sceptical of this result. The paper doesn't include all the images used, just a single "representative" image from each category. My first suspicion was that the other same-sex-kiss images might be more graphic/sexual than the simple affectionate kiss seen here, but then I realised that I personally don't feel a disgust response even from the maggots picture- probably because it's low-res and greyscale.
Yeah I'm getting nothing from that maggot pic either, bad choice of image if they were trying to conjure up strong feelings
Disaster
Hilarious
>men who aren't into other men find men kissing disgusting
who could have possibly guessed?
None of my friends are disgusted by it
Is it or are you being ironic?
>None of my friends are disgusted by it
that's nice anon, but your friends don't make up the majority of the male population.
But they clearly prove its not everyone
obviously it's not everyone, but a lot of straight guys finding gay guys kissing disgusting is just as obvious.
the entire article is moronic.
moronic analogy. That's the same as saying the people disgusted by maggots simply because they don't want to frick them.
How would you feel about a movie where, say, there's a gay serial murderer but the weirdest thing you actually see them doing is (genuine) kissing, and then murdering? It happens often enough to "feel real".
think I might be gay unfortunately, what do?
Don't be a pussy about it, enjoy life
Don't end up like that buck breaking homosexual
there's no prize for going from cradle to grave without telling a man you love him.
it's not fricking fair, bros
Its called self respect, not like you would knoe.
use it to your advantage. gays are practically worshipped these days.
liked this one, unironically
Since when does Cinemaphile not allow talking about gay shows?
It counts as pedophilia since being gay and molesting children are literally the same thing
Even in the show they end up molesting a kid, so tv shows like this aren’t allowed on Cinemaphile
Pretty sure discussion about shows about child molestation is allowed too
this post is just insane. they don't molest anyone in heartstopper. the only thing that "counts as pedophilia" is pedophilia.
What do you call someone that diddles baby animals
muslim
hehehe
Anon is having a schizo moment, best to ignore him
Everyone gets the same primal feeling of disgust in their gut when seeing this whether they want to admit it or not
No they don't, as a mater of fact lots of women think its hot
I can speak for experience but even fujos sometimes can get disgusted.
Some fujos only like 2d and the ones that like to watch real guys are usually extremely beautiful or actors from a tv series like sherlok hannibal or smt.
To be fair that goes for me and straight couples too, I don't want to see ugly or mid people make out
Have you heard about Fujos?
Off topic b***hes btfo
No
this one's pretty nice
Speaking of lesbian movies, I really liked The Handmaiden
oh yeah, good one. it's not wholesome but tár is a great lesbian movie.
I havn't seen that one yet but my mom recomended it to me so its on my list
Can also make good teev.
Only if they all die as a moral lesson about the dangers of homosex.
one of my favs.
An anime with a Spanish title?
more like disgusting. I'd rather watch gore. gays can do there thing, I just won't watch nor will it ever be "normal" because it isn't
*their
like a give a frick, thanks for the free editing
Wonder what Cinemaphile would be like if people could edit their posts
>comma splice
It's just going from bad to worse for you, isn't it.
She did a good job in the role but she's still way too pretty
And who could forget the gay musical called gay on gay ice part gay?
>ughh I hate period pieces
Second best gay horror movie
Good question
Sorry, nightmare on elm street is homosex gay gay horror? I watched them as a kid with my brother and don't remember a bit of anything "weird" other than the the main antagonist having run a trowel across kids backs and left brutal red welts.
I will absolutely check it out then. Thank you. That's specifically what Im here for.
At the very least Nightmare on Elm Street 2 is very homoerotic, and based on interviews Robert Englund seems to have been the only one who realized it during production
Oz was HBO's very first drama, and it has a lot in common with their later shows especially when it comes to Got and brutally killing off characters
Last season is terrible but otherwise great show
>real gays are usually groomers
moronic meme
The womenest women to ever women. Hate 'em. Great film.
One of the best endings to any film
Childish puns aside, there's nothing 'wholesome' about violently forcing your penis into another person's anus, whether that person is a man or a woman. It's a filthy and degrading practice and is at best a grotesque imitation of sex. It should be outlawed and those who engage in it treated as deviants.
virgin
Sodomite
yup
Gross. Post hidden.
Thank you.
Speak for yourself.
I'd rather live in a Muslim country than in one dominated by the Anal American Empire and its drive to legalize anal-fisting across the world.
>I'd rather live in a Muslim country than in one dominated by the Anal American Empire and its drive to legalize anal-fisting across the world.
>I'd rather live in a third world shithole than the richest country on earth
Says a lot
>I'd rather live in a third world shithole than the richest country on earth
I think my meaning will be perfectly obvious to the vast majority of people, but I don't want anyone to think I'm picking on a moron so I'm going to end the conversation here.
Your meaning was moronic
I sincerely doubt you could tell me what I meant without distorting my meaning beyond all recognition.
You made an overblown statement you don't actually stand by because you're a pussy
Just as I thought, you're moronic. Have a nice day—don't forget to put on a helmet if you leave the house.
Its exactly what you did b***h, cope and seethe
Once again someone who claims to be leaving a conversation gets easily baited back
A story as old as time
No one takes this seriously as an insult except muslims
He's right
You're right
If god didn't want guys to have anal sex he shouldn't have made the prostate accessible from there
Why do straight guys like doing anal so much that they'll kill their entire families for it?
They probably have parasites/worms. Lots of gay butt ppers have parasites/worms because they're in direct contact with poo all the time
Neither of these things are true to life or on topic
Many such cases
Yes it does. Are you denying that there's poop up someone's butt? Are you trying to say that the majority of gay men don't partake in sticking their parts in other men's butts? It should be part of the LGBT stories how they loosen their butts and start leaking poo everywhere. Anyways, lots of people have parasites/worms and don't know it, it can cause strange behaviors, maybe that includes wanting to spread itself by modifying a straight man's behavior to want to pp more butts to the point of obsession
Most people don't have fricking worms in the western world, where are you from, India?
You can't be sure of that, there are plenty of foreigners that come over to the western world that don't have the same level of cleanliness that can easily infest an otherwise healthy people. Maybe they should force people who come from other countries to go on antiparasitics for a bit. It should probably be required if you go to another country too, once you come back I mean
That's interesting, I imagine some of them are too far gone in depravity and think the poop isn't a big deal, that's people in general if they become that way. I wonder how many get lazy and don't clean themselves out properly? I bet it smells terrible.
I'll be fair and say if a show is doing nasty stuff in the first place, regardless of who's coupling, should at least bring up the potential downsides of doing any sort of intercourse. I didn't know that butt loosening was even possible until that Avacado guy's tweet about leaking in the dentist showed up.
I wonder why there isn't more of a pharmaceutical interest in getting people checked for parasites/worms in any part of the medical system. It feels like something they would do as part of a routine physical so they could squeeze even more money out of people. Vets do it all the time to house pets, but they don't check their owners for anything, so then you have those stories of the owners sleeping and then realizing their cat had parasites crawling out of their butt on their bed and pillow. How am I supposed to believe someone the owner didn't get infected?
People are disgusting, so that's why I think it's more than likely an unrepresented statistic on how many people are actually infested with something
>You can't be sure of that
Maybe not 100% sure but I'm pretty certain we have decent stats per country on how often people suffer from parasites, since they're a pretty big deal. From what I gather most people who have worms are little kids who put their dirty hands in their mouths at daycare.
I feel like it comes to a point where if the parasite/worm doesn't immediately destroy your health, most people can pass it off as something that occasionally happens and there's nothing to do about it, especially since the majority of doctors don't check for that sort of thing. For example, someone might say, oh my butthole itches sometimes, but maybe it's because I haven't cleaned myself enough, or maybe it's because it was so hot out today, but then it turns out there were pinworms all along and the only reason you found out was because you saw a video or someone talking about it. Up until that point, you have that person scratching themselves, maybe even in public restrooms and other public areas and not washing their hands, because they were just "adjusting" their underwear/pants, so now you have someone spreading pinworm eggs without knowing it.
The little kid thing makes sense, they don't wash their hands frequently and love putting things in their mouths, but unfortunately there's just as many adults who don't wash their hands either and workers who may be too lazy to clean whatever it is they need to clean in public areas properly. Anyways, I agree that maybe not the majority of people have infestations, but I do believe it's a lot more than we're told, because it's only when it's seriously debilitating is when someone goes to the doctor to get it checked out thoroughly
I mean I guess its possible but it seems very speculative in the end
Yeah. I mainly wish there was like an optional thing to go alongside your physical to test for parasites. They're already testing your blood and stool in the first place, so it's not like it'd be any more inconvienent than it already is. They do it all the time for dumb animals, so I don't see why humans are exempt, especially ones that share households with animals
Fair
>Are you denying that there's poop up someone's butt?
Yes. When you frick a guy, usually they squirt water up their ass to "clean out" so to speak. There are a bunch of foods they eat to make this easier.
>Are you trying to say that the majority of gay men don't partake in sticking their parts in other men's butts?
Yes. Most gay sex is oral or oral fixated in some way, at least in my experience.
> It should be part of the LGBT stories how they loosen their butts and start leaking poo everywhere.
Most of that crowd are 1/10 unfrickables-even to eachother- who literally never get sex. How would they know?
>Anyways, lots of people have parasites/worms and don't know it, it can cause strange behaviors, maybe that includes wanting to spread itself by modifying a straight man's behavior to want to pp more butts to the point of obsession
I am one hundred percent sure parasites in the water cause gay sex among blacks- and in prisons. But most (youngerL white guys take such an insane wienertail of antidepressants and amphetamines and antibiotics that it would kill ANY parasite.
>modifying a straight mans behavior
Further on that-meth, and amphetamines will both make you gay. Seriously. Seen many cases.
Jesse must have sucked so much dick for drugs before he met with Walt
Well at least then he knew how to please Todd
Hot
>I am one hundred percent sure parasites in the water cause gay sex among blacks- and in prisons.
I don't think it causes gay sex specifically as much as it causes a general lack of inhibition in all parts of life, including sexual acts you wouldn't do in usually
the virginest post
>Childish puns aside, there's nothing 'wholesome' about violently forcing your penis into another person's anus, whether that person is a man or a woman. It's a filthy and degrading practice and is at best a grotesque imitation of sex. It should be outlawed and those who engage in it treated as deviants.
veganal penetration for reproductive purposes is the most satisfying coom you'll ever have for a reason.
>t.
gays are gross to normal people (99% of humanity). You will just have to deal with it.
And T is just mental illness and ideological bs that don't belong to the screen, unless you are making a documentary
Everything belongs on screen, art shouldn't be tailor made just for your taste
Girls liked Hannibal show shipping Hannibal with the police. Thats because the characters were characters and there was some tension between them and they were handsome, so girls lost their shit
Lgbt the characters dont work. They are not interesting, their sexuality is their only character. Also they are either ugly or 2 actors being uncomfortable. Your pic related fails at pandering because its trying too hard for fujos to care, and real gays are usually groomers, they want to see a 40 yo man grooming some minor
Nothing changes about a character because the writer decides to make them attracted to the same sex, only bad or good writing decides if a character is good or not
>Nothing changes about a character because the writer decides to make them attracted to the same sex
This is absolutely incorrect. I could not possibly disagree more. When a writer "makes" a character attracted to the opposite sex, is it just moronic virtue signalling? Is that totally irrelevent to the show? Great, you just wasted my time and grossed out the straights. Is it driving the plot forward? Does it have significant value to the show? Great, then the characters sexuality ABSOLUTELY matters because homosex revolves around dominance and understanding and how sex is fundementally DIFFERENT when you're both men with needs.
I meant the "gay voice" part. Have you ever gone up to mcdonalds and ordered in a funny voice or something? It's like that all the time. It's an in joke and a culture that the server might not get, but it's FUN because you do.
I think that is a bunch of nonsense, its not wasting time to depict a character who happens to have an attribute. Why have a Christian or israeli character ever either then? Neither needs to be important to the plot to just exist and be part of the world that exists.
>who happens to have an attribute. Why have a Christian or israeli character ever either then?
Because it tells you how that characters moral compass and belief system works, and preludes and foreshadows how they will act in a given situation before they act. As an example, imagine a christian man we see forced to turn to crime. Do you think he's going to violently murder a witness, or try to pay him off and reason with him first?
One could say the same thing about a gay character in a similar situation. If a gay character becomes a criminal, how will it impact his life then if he's thrown into a life with macho gangsters who he needs to keep it secret from at all costs to keep his position. Will he just be celebate and lie about his background, or will he try to live a double life somehow?
Any story can have a purpose, a israeli or Christian faith can be irrelevant to a character OR it can impact the story, either way both they and gay people do exist in society and are a part of it regardless of if it does become important.
>Any story can have a purpose, a israeli or Christian faith can be irrelevant to a character
Maybe in writing. In screenplays, screentime actually matters. Wasting everyones time by having a character say "uhm actually schweetie im gay" in the middle of a normal conversation can potentially cost tens of, if not hundreds of, thousands just during the time everyone is standing there while that line is recorded. That's not done- except in recent film. Which is one of a million reasons WHY recent film is suffering from such bloated budgets
>having a character say "uhm actually schweetie im gay" in the middle of a normal conversation
When has this been the introduction to a gay character in anything in the last 10 years?
Thats not a problem of a character being gay, thats just shit writing. No character trait should be outright stated. No one says "btw I'm israeli" randomly.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_comedy_television_series_with_LGBT_characters
About 60% of the entries in the 2010's did exactly introduce their characters like that.
>Thats not a problem of a character being gay, thats just shit writing. No character trait should be outright stated.
But that is exactly what they do. YES the writing is shit. But what I'm saying is, the only examples where you can develop a character sexually, are examples where being homosexual actually fits in the story. You have to show them kissing guys, or dating, or whatever. And the problem you run into with most shows is that they don't ever have time for that unless it's the focus. Think modern family. You cannot have a homosexual character without homosexuality. And that is an immediate turnoff to 90% of audiences. So most of the time, instead, you just get shitty writing and a straight male actor being super uncomfortable.
>About 60% of the entries in the 2010's did exactly introduce their characters like that.
I have not seen any of this shit anon, so fair to you if that is actually a thing but I have never once seen it
>And that is an immediate turnoff to 90% of audiences.
Only audiences in the western world matter for most shows, and in most of those places people aren't remotely as grossed out by gay people as you seem to think.
This is actually such a moronic and braindead comparison.
Someone being a gang member or whatever shouldn't have any correlation with which gender gets him off. This is what's so moronic with you morons, what sexual attraction a character has really shouldn't affect the story that he's a part of, unless he's in a porn movie or something. I really hate this moronic mindset the west has that makes it seem like sexual attraction is something that makes you really special. It really isn't. It's just a really cheap way for companies to virtue signal and appeal to incredibly gullible morons.
>Someone being a gang member or whatever shouldn't have any correlation with which gender gets him off.
Nor does it with the Christian example the other person mentioned
Christian and religiou people in general hold the belief that killing people is deeply sinful.
So? That doesn't make it less or more of a plot than hiding being gay in a homophobic setting. Your argument esentially comes down to "I don't like the idea for that plot therefore its not one worth telling by anyone" which ignores that you're not the only one who movies or tv series gets made for. I don't have any interest in seeing a Christian self-pittying about being a violent criminal, doesn't mean someone can't make that a plot.
>a homophobic setting
Get over yourself you pathetic snowflake, lmao
No, seethe
>Your argument esentially comes down to "I don't like the idea for that plot therefore its not one worth telling by anyone"
No, it comes down to the fact that your sexual kinks really are a frivolous matter in a movie with a setting that's trying to be serious, because 90% of the people around you don't give a shit about it. It's just virtue signaling for morons.
>Christian self-pittying about being a violent criminal
It's not about self-pitying, it's about a character having internal conflicts because he needs to break his moral code. That's more interesting than "boohoo, people around me don't applaud me for having gay sex with men, please pity me :(".
And you thinks criminal mobs never had any homosexuals in them?
Its not a kink to be gay moron
It's just a fetish for being attracted to the same sex. It's about as interesting for a movie as being a bdsm enthusiast. You moron.
No it isnt
A kink or fetish doesnt remove attraction or interest in other stuff
Yeah, it can.
No it doesn't, that would be more like a paraphilia
Thats you opinion,one that isnt shared by pretty much all researchers, and more importantly to me, me.
Fetishes are defined as bizzare sexual kinks that people may have. Which is what homosexuality is.
>but muh gender studies researchers
Literally a non-argument
>me
Your opinion is valueless, then.
>Fetishes are defined as bizzare sexual kinks that people may have. Which is what homosexuality is.
Nope. Neither bizzare nor a kink or fetish.
>>but muh gender studies researchers
>Literally a non-argument
You don't decide what a fetish or kink is, actual sexologists do. You can seethe and cry about it until you die. Your nonscientific opinions will never be true and we'll beat your attempts at undermining us into submission like we already do in most of the civilized world.
>>me
>Your opinion is valueless, then.
My opinion is the only one of value actually
>Nope. Neither bizzare nor a kink or fetish.
Yeah, it definitely is. It goes against the whole point of sexual intercourse, which is to reproduce. In that aspect, even fetishes like bdsm or feet are less bizarre than homosexuality, because with those you can at least still be attracted to the sex with which you can breed.
Not that anon, but you come off as heavily closeted when you see homosexuality as the sort of "ultimate taboo". Doubley so when you end your poinnt with multiple 'buzzwords' like "attracted, sex, and breed" all in one breath.
Not that I especially think you are. But someone is gonna give you shit for it if you complain like that in real life about homosex, in that particular way, and I wanted to let you know.
Not him, but that's nice of you to point out to him. Good guy
I hate homosexualry and even I know homosexuality isn’t a “kink.” Convinced this is a false flagger
It literally is if you look at the definition of what kinks and fetishes are.
It really isnt
>And you thinks criminal mobs never had any homosexuals in them?
That has no relevance to if Christians are also hypocrites in crime
>Christians are also hypocrites in crime
That's what makes it interesting for a movie.
Not to me, its boring and overdone
Funny because I feel the exact opposite
This is literally just your opinion, you want one type of story and not another because you peprsonally have some idea of what makes a story valuable.
Kek this has literally never stopped anyone, majority of Italian mobsters and Mexican cartel members are Catholic
Religious people dont hold that belief any more than agnostics or atheists
Most romantic movies need to have interesting characters and conflicts that are more than just "my parents don't approve of me kissing dicks"
>This is what's so moronic with you morons, what sexual attraction a character has really shouldn't affect the story that he's a part of, unless he's in a porn movie or something.
So there should never be any romance stories whatsoever?
This comment is so fricking moronic, pornos are not the only movies with sex or romance in them
99% of the time tho israeli and christian faith isnt at all anything but background info
Grossing out some straight people doesn't seem to really prevent shows with gay characters to become successful so why would writers realistically care?
I know so many straight guys who have stopped watching shows-and whose families have stopped watching shows- because of gross gay characters being where they shouldn't.
You're on Cinemaphile, you and people you know don't exactly represent normies. You can cope all you want but tons of shows with gay shit continue to be popular enough that the minority you belong to don't matter.
I'm gay but okay
Nothing more non-normie than Cinemaphile gay
>Nothing more non-normie than Cinemaphile gay
Not sure what this has to do with good vs bad writing. Seems like you're going on an off topic tangent about some personal crusade against straights/republicans when factually, most gays are written as "Haha Im gay" once an episode. Not only being a pathetic waste of time and money, but also a personal insult to people who actually want to see gay characters reperesented.
Thats what you're like in real life tho
those are just "predators" pretending to be gay guys so they can get close in with girls and brutally rape them.
So much less cool than the real Predator
Are there female predators or are they all gay and reproduce asexually or with artificial wombs? Deep questions
They're like dwarves, you just can't tell which are female
>those are just "predators" pretending to be predators
Why would a gay guy go after women? Your comment don't make a lot of sense
Why would you expect better from Hollywood?
>I'm gay
Yikes
Why are you here and why do you hang out with straight people who get mad at gay shit? Seems very selfhating honestly
>Why are you here
better question is why are you
Selfhating and addiction to yous
better writing than netflix, right here folks.
No such thing as a gross gay character and we belong everywhere
Every frickin' straight girl watched this and thought "I could've fixed him!"
I hate women so much it makes me hate them more for making me feel so much hate.
>Every frickin' straight girl watched this and thought "I could've fixed him!"
Headcanon, some weirdos doing something and it getting attention doesn't mean many people are doing it
Don't act like men don't do the same with women. Jeffrey Darmer to women is like what the Harley Quinn/Jinx archetype is to men.
no they cant
They can to me
homosexualry and degeneracy.
>It's a homosexual show
>It's a Br*tish homosexual show
Holy yikes, Batman.
They are not even gay stories for the gay. They are overly romanticized version for women. The female gaze. Has nothing to do with promoting gays. It is just catching up to anime.
There are gay stories for gays, but we tend to keep out stuff to ourselves, we don't want a huge woman audience to take over out fandom spaces
Yes we get it, we have live-action fujos now
two mean falling in love/kissing/holding hands, etc is at least 10 times more disgusting and wrong than two men just fricking each other in the ass
Don't be affraid of love anon
Handsome Sexy Hot ranking:
Nick > Harry> Tao > Charlie > Ben
I want Nick and Tao to take turns buttfricking Harry.
Harry > Nick > Ben >>>>>>>> Charlie > Tao
ITT: chuds
kys.
Any LGBT targeted media where it portrays a janitor as trans like Good Will Hunting but they come out of the janitor closet?
This thread makes me hate homosexuals even more and I'm gay myself. Christ, you're all such insufferable braindead parasites.
You're not special anon, everyone on Cinemaphile hates everyone, even themselves
>watch gay flick
>Mandatory swimming together scene starts
All gay flicks are the same
Why is this such a trope
Apparently it's cliche enough that brokeback mountain deleted the scene
queers are just boring
Most people are, they're not special in the end
this coming of age story about sapphic swedish teens is very wholesome indeed
Förvånad att nån här vet om den filmen
I'm actually german. I just enjoy european cinema and liked some of Lukas Moodysson's other films (Lilja 4-ever in particular).
Wasn't this movie super popular in Sweden?
It is popular, but its also seen as kinda corny now
Most coming of age films are. But this one feels very real, has a great cast and most importantly SOUL
I'm never being ironic on the internet. Did you watch it?
True, feeling genuine is the most important
The only way it can be wholesome is if they all die.
I was absolutely sure "the great pretender" was going to do this until the ending. Worth bringing up even though it's anime. I think they rewrote the ending because of netflix.
Hiding being gay in a homophobic setting is certainly a plot, albeit vague. But you are once again trying to deny the existence of token gay characters as a whole.
I have never denied that tokens exist of all type, I'm denying that they're the only thing that exist and that that would be an excuse to never have gay characters
Well, if this is you here, then yeah, you are denying the reality that most gays in film and tv are strictly token inserts. Even if it is sarcastically.
No I'm not
You should help make it a reality if you thats what you want
I watched Brokeback Mountain.
Why do people keep acting like the reason the mcs in it couldn't be happy was because "le society was not accepting of le gays"? It was pretty clear their main issue was that they were both acting like addicts obsessed with gay sex and had very little self-control. They literally just start fricking in front of one the guy's house after they haven't seen each other for years.
Hunger games syndrome. It was popular enough that a bunch of classrooms brought it up and had "debates" about it where the group of normies screaming the loudest won. Now everyone thinks the ending is somehow about empowering women and not about how gale fricking murdered katniss's little sister, defeating all of her sacrifice and work in minutes- and about how women are emotional and fail to see the bigger picture.
It's hard to relate to the whole ''muh uncontrolable gay urge'' narrative when you are a beta
>TFW constantly keeping my attraction to women in check
Why is Cinemaphile full of literal normal homosexuals?
if you literally mean literal normal homosexuals- then probably because that's the target audience of what has actually been airing on television lately.
this, they have actually begun to believe that sodomy, anal prolapses and being a walking disease vector are normal now.
The most r*ddit of the boards.
Clearly you've never seen /news/
Correct, I have not.
>a community tragically destroyed by gay homosexual homosex
>and also rampant promiscuity amongst straighties
Less than 2% are homosexual, so it will only appeal to a tiny number of people.
gays are loathsome.
agreed
Do you expect me to recognize this pic or something?
No.
Why couldn't he have just been happy with what he had? I'd love to have Johnny Cakes.
Yeah But I'm a Cheerleader is a ridiculously wholesome movie.
Is this worth checking out?
I see it's exploding and I do like coming of age stories
i honestly didn't care for heartstopper. it's pretty flat. the only time i thought the writing was good was the scene where nick came out to his mom. none of the characters have very much nuance. it's still better than euphoria.
Yet another show RUINED by pandering to the gays.
Moonlight is a good gay film
>Black persongays
I didn't like it because it had blacks, but still it wasnt as pozzed as I thought.
Homosexuals have not been able to justify anal sex to me. How do you justify diapers at 40?
I've put my dick in every orifice of both genders and even though veganas feel the best they are also the most disgusting. Overall gay sex is a cleaner experience because gays know how to keep their holes clean. I don't think any women even douche their buttholes
I've been taking improv classes and the gay guys constantly work prolapses and other anus-related ideas into scenes. Write what you know I guess
Some of them, yeah.
>L
hot but not wholesome
>GBT
Dropped
The only lgbt film I'll watch is Blue is the Warmest Color, and I only watch the good scenes. Don't care about the story.
kino
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Considering the current state of women I unironicaly wish I was a gay