He never would have needed to use the Death Note for that. Misa worshipped him and already did whatever he asked, and she probably would be into that shit anyway.
Light never shows any interest in Misa and only keeps her around because she's an idiot and too much of a liability to let roam free without his oversight
That’s what I’m saying. Anime writers tend to have terrible instincts which is why Death Note would’ve been great at say 12 or 13 episodes instead of having a bunch of unnecessary extra baggage thrown in there.
That’s my other gripe with anime. They don’t have to adapt the manga so slavishly. The anime was a great opportunity to cut some of the fat that didn’t work.
>They don’t have to adapt the manga so slavishly
This is done to out of respect to the Mangaka, not altering their work unless they personally request it
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Anonymous
Which is stupid and detrimental to the final product. The Japs need to cut the shit.
But one of the most popular complaints from the audience during the 00's era of anime specifically was "going off-script and having an original ending"?
That's a weird thing with fans, they - believe it or not - tend to love the original work they're fans of.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The Japanese don’t actually live in a bubble. I think they can grasp the concept of certain aspects of comics not translating well to the movie/series adaptation.
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, the Japanese creators are pretty famous for keeping to their main audience and being reluctant to spread overseas, for many reasons. This is in place even now, and was much more prevalent 20 years ago.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>"going off-script and having an original ending"
Which was a dumb complaint because a lot of the manga are still running while the show is in production. They have to come up with an ending because they only get one season guaranteed and don't want to risk not having an ending.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Meh, I like it both ways. If you have talent, you will make a much better ending (or even story itself) than some random mangaka. As an example, I'd bring up KareKano.
If you don't - you will have these ridiculous endings many of harem battle shonens in the 00s had. I won't lie and pretend I remember many titles. Let's say Kaze no Stigma, just because this one I do remember.
The show begins to unravel after L's death. The protagonist and antagonist complemented each other too well, so when one of them eventually lost, they didn't have a good direction to go in.
Similar thing happened in the Last Kingdom. The interactions between Uhtred and Alfred made the show for me. Alfred's death was the end of it being quality
>The ONU has a secret mansion for raising boys with weaponized autism
The idea was cool but Near and Mello sucked ass
At least Near was kind of like L. What the frick did Mellow even do? I honestly can't even remember. He was just being an edgelord eating chocolate and people say he had an equal hand in catching Light? The frick is that?
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Heaven and Hell dont exist in the death note universe, everyone goes to "Mu" (nothingness). It was a technically true misdirection by Ryuk when he told Light that. Probably just to frick with him more for fun which didn't really work because he didn't know what type of guy Light was yet. I'm 90% sure this was revealed much later in the show in one of the title cards explaining a rule from the death note, but it was explicitly stated in the manga and in a real life interview with the creator.
As far as Light becoming a Shinigami it has never been confirmed and is just a fan theory. I don't find it very interesting and it really doesn't matter if he does or not. However it's worth noting that the specific shinigami people think looks like Light only appears in the anime only films ReLight which take place in their own seperate continuity
>Heaven and Hell dont exist in the death note universe
Are you sure? It's been a while since I've seen it. I just want to make sure you're confident and I'll trust you. I thought that was a real threat by Ryuk though.
>Are you sure?
Dunno if the anime included this but it's true. >I thought that was a real threat by Ryuk though.
Ryuk wanted to frick with Light to test his character and he was impressed when Light immediately called his bluff.
Why dont you just google it? Yes I am confident >Death Note Volume 12: "All humans will, without exception, eventually die. After they die, the place they go is MU." >Tsugumi Ohba: “There is no heaven or hell. No matter what you do while you're alive, everybody goes to the same place once you die. Death is Equal.”
>Why dont you just google it?
Well sorry to just want to talk and have a conversation. No need to be a dick about it. You could have just not responded.
I went out of my way to correct you on something you misunderstood and also google for you to find the direct quotes when you doubted what I said and I hadn't been rude or insulted you once. That's why I asked why don't you google it yourself because for some reason you said you were going to take that on "trust" when that is unneccessary and is exactly what I had to do to get you the information. Instead you've thanked a different anon who came in pretending to be me who said the same exact information I did and told me to go frick myself when I was just trying to help you. You're not a good person
3 months ago
Anonymous
As an unbiased observer I am simultaneously laughing at you while wanting to hug you
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ok. I genuinely wasn't being a dick and I will defend myself if an anon passively aggressively replies to me like that
3 months ago
Anonymous
I know, it was just a very amusing escalation into a defensive rant, but I ain't disagreeing with you
3 months ago
Anonymous
I see that now, sorry I'm still in autist defensive mode. I was gonna say I know I took it too far for how little he said but for some reason it really pissed me off
anyway I think the music is a very important aspect of the show that not a lot of people bring up in these threads
I'd rather trust the nerds on this site than some random response some gay said on a random forum, I guess is where I was coming from. People here are as autistic as Light so I trust your word over Google's forum posts. So I guess I'm complimenting you if you want to take it that way.
It's all good anon. But to continue the conversation you wanted to have I think Ryuk telling Light that half-truth as soon as he meets him was more like a shit test than a threat. I mean typically in this situation you'd expect a human to freak the frick out upon hearing from a being like him that because of their actions they're not going to see an afterlife but Light shrugs it off like he just missed a bus. I think it's one of the more subtler parts of their initial conversation but it's part of Ryuk becoming really excited that an interesting guy like this was the one to pick up the notebook.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It's all good anon.
Fair enough, sorry if I came off as a dick. So this Mu place, do they reincarnate? Aren't most Japanese people Shinto or whatever where they believe in reincarnation? Maybe that's kind of what it was referring to? Like, there's no afterlife, you just get reborn endlessly. I dunno, a world without anything and you just go to nonexistence is kind of depressing. It was some allusion to that, I could see it. But who knows I guess.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's an interesting question but we can only speculate about this. As far as I'm aware Mu is a concept in buddhism so you'd have to assume that's what Ohba was drawing from and classically in buddhism everyone reincarnates endlessly (Samsara) while on an ultimate path to enlightenment (Nirvana) where they break free of that cycle. Weirdly, from what I can find Mu seems to be a similar sort of idea to Nirvana where you're not in that cycle anymore and it doesn't quite sound like a strict nothingness but more of a seperation from everything physical. For some reason in the death note universe everyone achieves a type of enlightenment by default?
Really I don't fricking know. But in my opinion I feel like no existence after death fits the world of death note very well. The world is bleak, the shinigami world is bleak but there are repeated hopeful ideas in the story of doing what you can to help others and affect change with the time you have while you're alive. You dont have an immortal soul but you can still be a significant force in the world with the time you do have
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd rather trust the nerds on this site than some random response some gay said on a random forum, I guess is where I was coming from. People here are as autistic as Light so I trust your word over Google's forum posts. So I guess I'm complimenting you if you want to take it that way.
Why dont you just google it? Yes I am confident >Death Note Volume 12: "All humans will, without exception, eventually die. After they die, the place they go is MU." >Tsugumi Ohba: “There is no heaven or hell. No matter what you do while you're alive, everybody goes to the same place once you die. Death is Equal.”
Even reading the manga first, the plot falls off when L is gone, if I had to guess they didn't plan writing more after that, but had to introduce L2 to keep the ball rolling when it got popular
They could prove it, they had the working note on their hands. But considering the state of the setting at that point, the group would have simply executed him, not willing to take the risks.
You can control a person's actions before death to a certain extent with the death note. Just have a bunch of death row inmates do very specific things and that would prove it
>"Your honor, this is preposterous. There is no direct link of causation that causes this book to kill someone and it has not been established by the prosecution either! We could by the same logic send someone to jail because he prayed that someone might die and that person died by accident later!"
I doubt he'd actually see a courtroom. He'd likely be glowie'd into being swept under the rug by the government and either executed or thrown into some solitary cell for the rest of his life.
It's a popular fan theory, but never confirmed. All we know for a fact is that humans who have used the note can neither go to heaven nor hell after death, there's also that Shinigami at the end that wears clothes that resemble Light's, but I don't know if that was anime only
I always wondered the clarification on that. So the heaven/hell thing is if you USE it, right? Not just touch one and see the shinigami? What if you touch the Death Note and just have an eternal friend until your natural death? Can you still go to heaven/hell then?
I always wondered the clarification on that. So the heaven/hell thing is if you USE it, right? Not just touch one and see the shinigami? What if you touch the Death Note and just have an eternal friend until your natural death? Can you still go to heaven/hell then?
Heaven and Hell dont exist in the death note universe, everyone goes to "Mu" (nothingness). It was a technically true misdirection by Ryuk when he told Light that. Probably just to frick with him more for fun which didn't really work because he didn't know what type of guy Light was yet. I'm 90% sure this was revealed much later in the show in one of the title cards explaining a rule from the death note, but it was explicitly stated in the manga and in a real life interview with the creator.
As far as Light becoming a Shinigami it has never been confirmed and is just a fan theory. I don't find it very interesting and it really doesn't matter if he does or not. However it's worth noting that the specific shinigami people think looks like Light only appears in the anime only films ReLight which take place in their own seperate continuity
Light wasn't gay or asexual and Misa was one of the most attractive young actress in Japan so it's logical to assume he at least dumped his cum inside her once in a while
Even if he was, it would be stupid not to dick the girl you want at your side unconditionally and who you know is wanting to be dicked by you. So yeah, I'd say Light 100% had sex with Misa quite regularly, no matter how sad that fact made him or me.
I hate women, and Light does too. I'm quite proud I've managed to go through my life behaving like an 18-year-old anime character.
>character named L
>takes the W
He never would have needed to use the Death Note for that. Misa worshipped him and already did whatever he asked, and she probably would be into that shit anyway.
Why would he need the Death Note to do this? Misa would have literally prolapsed her own butthole for Light.
Light's one and only love is JUSTICE
>implying she wouldn't enjoy
On the same note, was this scene really necessary?
>Give it to me, don't give it away
Do you know why I stand like this Matsuda?
No, why's that Chief?
Light never shows any interest in Misa and only keeps her around because she's an idiot and too much of a liability to let roam free without his oversight
Why would he need to use the Death Note for that? Misa would have eaten his shit out of a toilet bowl if he told her to.
This show stinks, right? Almost all anime would be made better by getting down the number of episodes by half.
The first 2/3rds of the show is all killer no filler some of the best anime ever. The final 3rd is meh by comparison, but the ending is great
That’s what I’m saying. Anime writers tend to have terrible instincts which is why Death Note would’ve been great at say 12 or 13 episodes instead of having a bunch of unnecessary extra baggage thrown in there.
Death Note was an anime adaptation of the manga though?
That’s my other gripe with anime. They don’t have to adapt the manga so slavishly. The anime was a great opportunity to cut some of the fat that didn’t work.
>They don’t have to adapt the manga so slavishly
This is done to out of respect to the Mangaka, not altering their work unless they personally request it
Which is stupid and detrimental to the final product. The Japs need to cut the shit.
But one of the most popular complaints from the audience during the 00's era of anime specifically was "going off-script and having an original ending"?
That's a weird thing with fans, they - believe it or not - tend to love the original work they're fans of.
The Japanese don’t actually live in a bubble. I think they can grasp the concept of certain aspects of comics not translating well to the movie/series adaptation.
No, the Japanese creators are pretty famous for keeping to their main audience and being reluctant to spread overseas, for many reasons. This is in place even now, and was much more prevalent 20 years ago.
>"going off-script and having an original ending"
Which was a dumb complaint because a lot of the manga are still running while the show is in production. They have to come up with an ending because they only get one season guaranteed and don't want to risk not having an ending.
Meh, I like it both ways. If you have talent, you will make a much better ending (or even story itself) than some random mangaka. As an example, I'd bring up KareKano.
If you don't - you will have these ridiculous endings many of harem battle shonens in the 00s had. I won't lie and pretend I remember many titles. Let's say Kaze no Stigma, just because this one I do remember.
The show begins to unravel after L's death. The protagonist and antagonist complemented each other too well, so when one of them eventually lost, they didn't have a good direction to go in.
Similar thing happened in the Last Kingdom. The interactions between Uhtred and Alfred made the show for me. Alfred's death was the end of it being quality
I thought it was pretty good
the part where they team up against jobber corp is way too long and dull
The show goes to shit when L dies Near was the dumbest shit ever
>The ONU has a secret mansion for raising boys with weaponized autism
The idea was cool but Near and Mello sucked ass
At least Near was kind of like L. What the frick did Mellow even do? I honestly can't even remember. He was just being an edgelord eating chocolate and people say he had an equal hand in catching Light? The frick is that?
>Heaven and Hell dont exist in the death note universe
Are you sure? It's been a while since I've seen it. I just want to make sure you're confident and I'll trust you. I thought that was a real threat by Ryuk though.
>Are you sure?
Dunno if the anime included this but it's true.
>I thought that was a real threat by Ryuk though.
Ryuk wanted to frick with Light to test his character and he was impressed when Light immediately called his bluff.
Oh okay. Thanks.
>Why dont you just google it?
Well sorry to just want to talk and have a conversation. No need to be a dick about it. You could have just not responded.
I went out of my way to correct you on something you misunderstood and also google for you to find the direct quotes when you doubted what I said and I hadn't been rude or insulted you once. That's why I asked why don't you google it yourself because for some reason you said you were going to take that on "trust" when that is unneccessary and is exactly what I had to do to get you the information. Instead you've thanked a different anon who came in pretending to be me who said the same exact information I did and told me to go frick myself when I was just trying to help you. You're not a good person
As an unbiased observer I am simultaneously laughing at you while wanting to hug you
Ok. I genuinely wasn't being a dick and I will defend myself if an anon passively aggressively replies to me like that
I know, it was just a very amusing escalation into a defensive rant, but I ain't disagreeing with you
I see that now, sorry I'm still in autist defensive mode. I was gonna say I know I took it too far for how little he said but for some reason it really pissed me off
anyway I think the music is a very important aspect of the show that not a lot of people bring up in these threads
It's all good anon. But to continue the conversation you wanted to have I think Ryuk telling Light that half-truth as soon as he meets him was more like a shit test than a threat. I mean typically in this situation you'd expect a human to freak the frick out upon hearing from a being like him that because of their actions they're not going to see an afterlife but Light shrugs it off like he just missed a bus. I think it's one of the more subtler parts of their initial conversation but it's part of Ryuk becoming really excited that an interesting guy like this was the one to pick up the notebook.
>It's all good anon.
Fair enough, sorry if I came off as a dick. So this Mu place, do they reincarnate? Aren't most Japanese people Shinto or whatever where they believe in reincarnation? Maybe that's kind of what it was referring to? Like, there's no afterlife, you just get reborn endlessly. I dunno, a world without anything and you just go to nonexistence is kind of depressing. It was some allusion to that, I could see it. But who knows I guess.
It's an interesting question but we can only speculate about this. As far as I'm aware Mu is a concept in buddhism so you'd have to assume that's what Ohba was drawing from and classically in buddhism everyone reincarnates endlessly (Samsara) while on an ultimate path to enlightenment (Nirvana) where they break free of that cycle. Weirdly, from what I can find Mu seems to be a similar sort of idea to Nirvana where you're not in that cycle anymore and it doesn't quite sound like a strict nothingness but more of a seperation from everything physical. For some reason in the death note universe everyone achieves a type of enlightenment by default?
Really I don't fricking know. But in my opinion I feel like no existence after death fits the world of death note very well. The world is bleak, the shinigami world is bleak but there are repeated hopeful ideas in the story of doing what you can to help others and affect change with the time you have while you're alive. You dont have an immortal soul but you can still be a significant force in the world with the time you do have
I'd rather trust the nerds on this site than some random response some gay said on a random forum, I guess is where I was coming from. People here are as autistic as Light so I trust your word over Google's forum posts. So I guess I'm complimenting you if you want to take it that way.
Why dont you just google it? Yes I am confident
>Death Note Volume 12: "All humans will, without exception, eventually die. After they die, the place they go is MU."
>Tsugumi Ohba: “There is no heaven or hell. No matter what you do while you're alive, everybody goes to the same place once you die. Death is Equal.”
He's the ultimate incel fantasy. It's not that hot blondes won't give him the time of the day. It's that he doesn't want to frick them
Even reading the manga first, the plot falls off when L is gone, if I had to guess they didn't plan writing more after that, but had to introduce L2 to keep the ball rolling when it got popular
If I wrote my own name and death by snu snu while I'm at a Floridan beach resort, what would happen?
How would Light actually get convicted in Japanese court? The prosecution would have to prove that magic is real.
They could prove it, they had the working note on their hands. But considering the state of the setting at that point, the group would have simply executed him, not willing to take the risks.
Which would be very easy if you had the Death Note as evidence
I guess, but the defense could point out that it’s just a book and they’re acting like superstitious morons to make them look foolish.
You can control a person's actions before death to a certain extent with the death note. Just have a bunch of death row inmates do very specific things and that would prove it
>"Your honor, this is preposterous. There is no direct link of causation that causes this book to kill someone and it has not been established by the prosecution either! We could by the same logic send someone to jail because he prayed that someone might die and that person died by accident later!"
I doubt he'd actually see a courtroom. He'd likely be glowie'd into being swept under the rug by the government and either executed or thrown into some solitary cell for the rest of his life.
Did Kira really become a Shinigami after he died?
It's a popular fan theory, but never confirmed. All we know for a fact is that humans who have used the note can neither go to heaven nor hell after death, there's also that Shinigami at the end that wears clothes that resemble Light's, but I don't know if that was anime only
I always wondered the clarification on that. So the heaven/hell thing is if you USE it, right? Not just touch one and see the shinigami? What if you touch the Death Note and just have an eternal friend until your natural death? Can you still go to heaven/hell then?
Heaven and Hell dont exist in the death note universe, everyone goes to "Mu" (nothingness). It was a technically true misdirection by Ryuk when he told Light that. Probably just to frick with him more for fun which didn't really work because he didn't know what type of guy Light was yet. I'm 90% sure this was revealed much later in the show in one of the title cards explaining a rule from the death note, but it was explicitly stated in the manga and in a real life interview with the creator.
As far as Light becoming a Shinigami it has never been confirmed and is just a fan theory. I don't find it very interesting and it really doesn't matter if he does or not. However it's worth noting that the specific shinigami people think looks like Light only appears in the anime only films ReLight which take place in their own seperate continuity
Is Keith Raniere the closest person to a Light Yagami figure irl?
He didn't even like Misa.
Light wasn't gay or asexual and Misa was one of the most attractive young actress in Japan so it's logical to assume he at least dumped his cum inside her once in a while
Plus it wouldn't attract suspicion
>Light wasn't asexual
very fricking debatable lmao
Even if he was, it would be stupid not to dick the girl you want at your side unconditionally and who you know is wanting to be dicked by you. So yeah, I'd say Light 100% had sex with Misa quite regularly, no matter how sad that fact made him or me.
he's gay