They had budgets that are lower than lightyear. Somehow lightyear had a 200 million dollar budget,15 million more than the Chris Pratt cgi Dino movie
It has a 200M budget with a 100M marketing budget. It's needs to gross more 400M to even break even.
>lightyear had a 200 million dollar budget
fricking how?
Why the frick are Pixar films so goddamn expensive? They sank exactly 200 million into Finding Dory and Monsters University too, and even this piece of shit. Is this all just a laundering op?
>Why is the pixar/Disney films so expensive?
Dude it's because of Chris Evens and the rest of the VAs, I hate how celebrity va gets bigger checks than the people who actually put more effort into the animation
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Honestly, what is even the point of theaters anymore? Movies go on demand after two weeks and then show up on streaming services after four-to-five weeks. I remember when I was younger and Shrek stayed in theaters for four months. Theatrical windows are so short now that you're missing nothing by just waiting for the cheaper VOD.
People who aren't poor as shit. People who want to avoid spoilers. People who enjoy discussing things with other people who are likewise excited about the movie because it's new everyone just watched it.
>Who actually goes to the theater when a movie premiers and not three or four weeks after so you can see it in an empty theater for dirt cheap?
Not a single soul.
People who can't afford movie tickets just pirate it, but this is so bad that nobody's pirating this either.
>Lightyear $200 million budget >Jurassic World Dominion $185 million budget >Top Gun Maverick $170 million budget
The latter two have lots of special effects and also needs a large crew, transportation, costs for on-location shooting, insurance, etc etc.
How the frick can a movie that is made entirely on computers by people sitting in cubicles be more expensive ?
>How the frick can a movie that is made entirely on computers by people sitting in cubicles be more expensive ?
People at Pixar get paid a pretty ridiculous amount.
Because that shit costs money, they have to buy out server farms to render all this shit, constantly making new passes, then there's the actors, and finally the cheapest part paying the animators.
It's been the norm for Pixar since Toy Story 3. Soon they may have to start cutting back. When Dreamworks was bought out by Universal they started keeping costs in check to the point where Croods 2 only cost 65m as opposed to the original's 135m.
Turns out the myth of CGI being cheaper than 2D is a massive crock of shit.
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That's always been a lie. 2D has always been cheaper than 3D but 3D makes more money due to burgerland normies hating 2D
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Probably because 2D looks overly simplified in comparison. Did you see the Bob's Burgers movie? Looked like fricking ass.
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>Did you see the Bob's Burgers movie? Looked like fricking ass.
It looked like ass because the show in general looks like ass, they can only polish that turd so much. Something like Klaus with Disney marketing could've easily made money.
That's like saying you can compare alvin and the chipmunks 4 to the force awakens because they came out at the same time and alvin was under fox. Or Shrek 3 to inception since they had the same budget
>New Disney Animated Movie debuts >szchizo Cinemaphile anon says it's going to flop >keeps making threads about it more if the movie is banned on international countries >Movie does well > szchizo Cinemaphile anon keeps samegayging the same statement that is a flop until the next Disney animated film comes out
Can't wait to see your Strange World Box Office threads gay.
>Scoring the second highest debut for a family film since the pandemic
>The combination of both Father’s Day and the Juneteenth federal holiday may positively impact the box office. The worldwide debut is looking to be around $135 million.
lol no, theaters take half
Lightyear needs at least 400, probably 500 mil to even be close to breaking even
That's usually not a problem for Pixar but there seems to be a real lack of demand here
In cases like these, it should be, because this is purely about "how much money are they getting out vs. how much money did they shovel in".
In smaller cinema scenes, it's usually left out because you're comparing what a director was able to accomplish within their budget constraints, and advertising has nothing to do with what they did to make the movie itself.
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>it's usually left out because you're comparing what a director was able to accomplish within their budget constraints
Comparing to what? Box office numbers? Advertising absolutely has something to do with that. Just look at Cyberpunk 2077.
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>Comparing to what?
The quality of the film, as determined by the individual watching it. That's about art movies with budgets in the tens of thousands of dollars, not hundreds of millions attempted cash grabs.
The Bad Guys only did $1.15M in Thursday previews but it's not related to a 4 film franchise with billions in gross and it cost less well under half as much to make
Why the frick are Pixar films so goddamn expensive? They sank exactly 200 million into Finding Dory and Monsters University too, and even this piece of shit. Is this all just a laundering op?
A lot of the money Pixar and Disney spend on their CG films actually goes into developing new technology. Tangled is budgeted at $260 mil and some of that went into the hair simulation (which they used extensively for what was afterwards) but also a chunk went towards Meander (what was used for the Paperman short) which didn't even end up being used for the final movie but was utilized on Zootopia and Moana
Illumination and Dreamworks can make movies much cheaper because they use almost entirely off-the-shelf stuff instead of developing their own tools
>PIxar disowns Buzz Lightyear of Star Command because they feel like its a cheap cash in made without their input >despite this everyone else loves it >Fast forward 20 years >they make their own cheap cash in with Buzz lightyear only without the fun or memorable cast >no one likes it >it bombs >in the end all it accomplished was remind people of Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command and how good it was
well played Pixar
If Lightyear was made in 10 years ago it would be in far better shape because the story would probably just be a straight forward space adventure with none of this "i got stuck in space for 10 minutes and now when i've returned, everyone I know is old!!" trope bullshit, the people behind it wouldn't be as politically motivated (trying to hide a mediocre movie with a gay kiss controversy) and Buzz would be characterized differently
At the very fricking least give us other alien races as part of the main Star Command crew instead of a bunch of boring humans
I absolutely loved the Star Command cartoon and movie as a kid, but I still enjoyed Lightyear. Biggest sin is the lack of those 3 eyed green aliens from Toy Story. They were from the same property Buzz was from.
>They were from the same property Buzz was from.
They were a Pizza Planet mascot, hence them having a Pizza Planet logo on their suits in Toy Story and neither Buzz nor them recognizing each other when he hops in the crane game. Them being in Star Command would've been some sort of brand deal between Pizza Planet and Buzz's toy company.
Seconding this because I don’t know the answer and I don’t know how to find the answer
Toy Story 4 did $12 million, Incredibles 2 did $18 million - both on Thursday alone. The fact that Disney bundled two days together should tell you how bad this one's doing.
L. Ron Hubbard is inflating Top Gun numbers
I don't care for 90's dinosaur nostalgia.
the last bastion of quality theatrical animation is dying and you morons are celebrating.
>Gopher put it alot better than I could, but I just think people are vastly underestimating how much low-information consumers (aka most people and families) literally just think all the animated movies come out on Disney+ now. Now to cite favorable anecdotes, but I had two coworkers with kids tell me they were gonna watch Lightyear on Disney+ this week because they thought it was on there! That's a hard habit to break.
Disney will use this as a reason to stop making movies with white men in the "lead" role. Maybe for the best if this is the slop they're going to make.
It's a movie that literally no one asked for nor was interested in. Honestly not surprising that it perform poorly. Although they are definitely going to use the excuse that it was banned in some countries as an excuse for it's poor performance.
That whiplash of the 4 year time skip joke felt very weird and uncomfortable, has there ever been something like that before? Like yeah it's funny but progressively gets worse as you realize what Buzz is doing to everyone?
Those preview numbers look bad, but realistically it should do $60-70 million opening weekend based on IP alone, Buzz is well known and loved from the Toy Story movies.
It's harder to be enthusiastic for the legs on this movie, as the reviews have been lackluster which likely means word of mouth will be poor.
I think the main issue is it doesn't really have an audience. Toy Story fans aren't going to like it since Buzz and Zerg are completely different characters here. And pretty much every other demographic I can think of besides the die-hard pixar fanboys are just going to see it as the incredibly bland movie that it is.
Budget: 200 million
>Why is the pixar/Disney films so expensive?
Dude it's because of Chris Evens and the rest of the VAs, I hate how celebrity va gets bigger checks than the people who actually put more effort into the animation
Chris Evans might account for maybe 50-100 grand of that
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Honestly, what is even the point of theaters anymore? Movies go on demand after two weeks and then show up on streaming services after four-to-five weeks. I remember when I was younger and Shrek stayed in theaters for four months. Theatrical windows are so short now that you're missing nothing by just waiting for the cheaper VOD.
Movie theaters have better popcorn than I have at home
I like the social aspect and going out
>he doesn't like the big screen
booo
Who actually goes to the theater when a movie premiers and not three or four weeks after so you can see it in an empty theater for dirt cheap?
People who aren't poor as shit. People who want to avoid spoilers. People who enjoy discussing things with other people who are likewise excited about the movie because it's new everyone just watched it.
Looks like the poors are at it again.
>Who actually goes to the theater when a movie premiers and not three or four weeks after so you can see it in an empty theater for dirt cheap?
Not a single soul.
People who can't afford movie tickets just pirate it, but this is so bad that nobody's pirating this either.
it's literally not even out for pirating yet you moron who unironically believes his delusions are how the world works
#groomerprideworldwide
FOMO
Personally I like the swag you can get for going opening night/weekend. If a movie doesn’t have any than I’ll wait to go when the theater is empty
Flopgays be like
>IT'S GONNA FLOP IT'S GONNA FLOP
Flopgays when a movie doesn't flop
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
How much would you expect "domestic previews" to make? The movie just came out today.
My homie Jurassic world made 18+ million on its first Thursday alone, this is horrific
It is flopping badly though
And Jurassic World Dominion was cheaper to make than Lightyear, and Top Gun Maverick was cheaper still, like wtf
How the hell??
>Lightyear $200 million budget
>Jurassic World Dominion $185 million budget
>Top Gun Maverick $170 million budget
The latter two have lots of special effects and also needs a large crew, transportation, costs for on-location shooting, insurance, etc etc.
How the frick can a movie that is made entirely on computers by people sitting in cubicles be more expensive ?
>How the frick can a movie that is made entirely on computers by people sitting in cubicles be more expensive ?
People at Pixar get paid a pretty ridiculous amount.
Because that shit costs money, they have to buy out server farms to render all this shit, constantly making new passes, then there's the actors, and finally the cheapest part paying the animators.
LIGHTYEAR BROS....
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So is that good or bad, I need context gay
It’s really bad. Top gun and Jurassic made more than 3x that on their previews and only had one day to do so
>other unrelated movies that are not animated or family ordinated
Okay? I'm still not getting it
They had budgets that are lower than lightyear. Somehow lightyear had a 200 million dollar budget,15 million more than the Chris Pratt cgi Dino movie
>lightyear had a 200 million dollar budget
fricking how?
mismanaged money, moronic producers shoveling cash at any problem the diversity hires cry about, and too much in marketing.
It's been the norm for Pixar since Toy Story 3. Soon they may have to start cutting back. When Dreamworks was bought out by Universal they started keeping costs in check to the point where Croods 2 only cost 65m as opposed to the original's 135m.
Turns out the myth of CGI being cheaper than 2D is a massive crock of shit.
That's always been a lie. 2D has always been cheaper than 3D but 3D makes more money due to burgerland normies hating 2D
Probably because 2D looks overly simplified in comparison. Did you see the Bob's Burgers movie? Looked like fricking ass.
>Did you see the Bob's Burgers movie? Looked like fricking ass.
It looked like ass because the show in general looks like ass, they can only polish that turd so much. Something like Klaus with Disney marketing could've easily made money.
>Families don't watch Top Gun
Spotted the bolshevik broodling
You really can't compare a toy story spinoff to a tom cruise movie or jurassic park. A better example would be to look at other animated films
it was marketed as a major film by a major studio and budgeted as such
of course you can compare
That's like saying you can compare alvin and the chipmunks 4 to the force awakens because they came out at the same time and alvin was under fox. Or Shrek 3 to inception since they had the same budget
You can't compare Shrek 3 to Inception, Inception was shit
It's going to open less than Sonic 2 while having double the budget.
so confirmed flop?
Sonicbros...
We just can't stop WINNING
what's the buzz what's a happening?
jesus christ superstar?
>New Disney Animated Movie debuts
>szchizo Cinemaphile anon says it's going to flop
>keeps making threads about it more if the movie is banned on international countries
>Movie does well
> szchizo Cinemaphile anon keeps samegayging the same statement that is a flop until the next Disney animated film comes out
Can't wait to see your Strange World Box Office threads gay.
>movie does well
Lmao
>Scoring the second highest debut for a family film since the pandemic
>The combination of both Father’s Day and the Juneteenth federal holiday may positively impact the box office. The worldwide debut is looking to be around $135 million.
>lower opening than Sonic 2
>twice the budget
I don’t know how you can spin this as a win anon.
morons with zero business experience see the word "million" and instantly assume the company whose boots they're deep throating, made a great profit.
That kind of money doesn't even get you in a gated community anymore.
>all that mental gymnastics
Do gringos really?
>gringos
In american, chink.
>Disney
>second highest
It's over. They used to dominate over and over but Sonic finally put them down.
There's a chance it won't even be the #1 on the weekend, losing to Jurassic World in its second weekend.
>the Juneteenth federal holiday
What
The day the slaves in Texas found out they were free at the end of the Civil War. Got turned into a national holiday because of the BLM shitstorms.
It was a Trump's idea that Biden stole.
Out of curiosity, how is this doing compared to The Bad Guys?
It’ll beat the bad guys in raw numbers, but the budget is so damn high it might not even hit the break even point. The bad guys is making a profit
Bad guys made over 230 million, if they make more than that then lightyear will be in the green.
lol no, theaters take half
Lightyear needs at least 400, probably 500 mil to even be close to breaking even
That's usually not a problem for Pixar but there seems to be a real lack of demand here
It has a 200M budget with a 100M marketing budget. It's needs to gross more 400M to even break even.
Why isn't marketing included in the budget?
In cases like these, it should be, because this is purely about "how much money are they getting out vs. how much money did they shovel in".
In smaller cinema scenes, it's usually left out because you're comparing what a director was able to accomplish within their budget constraints, and advertising has nothing to do with what they did to make the movie itself.
>it's usually left out because you're comparing what a director was able to accomplish within their budget constraints
Comparing to what? Box office numbers? Advertising absolutely has something to do with that. Just look at Cyberpunk 2077.
>Comparing to what?
The quality of the film, as determined by the individual watching it. That's about art movies with budgets in the tens of thousands of dollars, not hundreds of millions attempted cash grabs.
The Bad Guys only did $1.15M in Thursday previews but it's not related to a 4 film franchise with billions in gross and it cost less well under half as much to make
Why the frick are Pixar films so goddamn expensive? They sank exactly 200 million into Finding Dory and Monsters University too, and even this piece of shit. Is this all just a laundering op?
A lot of the money Pixar and Disney spend on their CG films actually goes into developing new technology. Tangled is budgeted at $260 mil and some of that went into the hair simulation (which they used extensively for what was afterwards) but also a chunk went towards Meander (what was used for the Paperman short) which didn't even end up being used for the final movie but was utilized on Zootopia and Moana
Illumination and Dreamworks can make movies much cheaper because they use almost entirely off-the-shelf stuff instead of developing their own tools
Did they use it for anything else?
>new technology
And yet they still can’t write for shit
That purple car has such dick sucking lips.
>PIxar disowns Buzz Lightyear of Star Command because they feel like its a cheap cash in made without their input
>despite this everyone else loves it
>Fast forward 20 years
>they make their own cheap cash in with Buzz lightyear only without the fun or memorable cast
>no one likes it
>it bombs
>in the end all it accomplished was remind people of Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command and how good it was
well played Pixar
If Lightyear was made in 10 years ago it would be in far better shape because the story would probably just be a straight forward space adventure with none of this "i got stuck in space for 10 minutes and now when i've returned, everyone I know is old!!" trope bullshit, the people behind it wouldn't be as politically motivated (trying to hide a mediocre movie with a gay kiss controversy) and Buzz would be characterized differently
At the very fricking least give us other alien races as part of the main Star Command crew instead of a bunch of boring humans
Designing and writing interesting ayys is just too much to ask I guess
Shit, that's good. Reminds me of Thundamoo's writing.
Yannit is best girl
It makes me appreciate the dumb fun of the Saturday morning cartoon a lot more just because it was more colorful and creative.
>without the fun or memorable cast
Lightyear has a hecking cute cat though, in stores now!
They probably mad they didn't come with this themselves, some blue alien pussy would really save this shitshow
I absolutely loved the Star Command cartoon and movie as a kid, but I still enjoyed Lightyear. Biggest sin is the lack of those 3 eyed green aliens from Toy Story. They were from the same property Buzz was from.
>They were from the same property Buzz was from.
They were a Pizza Planet mascot, hence them having a Pizza Planet logo on their suits in Toy Story and neither Buzz nor them recognizing each other when he hops in the crane game. Them being in Star Command would've been some sort of brand deal between Pizza Planet and Buzz's toy company.
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I thought it was a Disney+ streaming movie
Since Toy Story is a cartoon the light year movie should have been live action.
Kids don't usually go watch movies on weekdays moron
>inb4 its' summer
>summer camp
>summer school
>parents still work on most days
This is now Woody's celebration thread!
WOODY WON!
Don't worry they will recoup the loss when it releases in China.
hahaha
It’ll make its money back
But it’s gonna be another nail for Pixar’s notoriety
That's really bad. It won't even beat Jurassic World. What went wrong?
>It’ll make its money back
It needs $550 million to break even. That's not happening.
Any examples of what other Pixar films would've made during the same period?
Seconding this because I don’t know the answer and I don’t know how to find the answer
Toy Story 4 did $12 million, Incredibles 2 did $18 million - both on Thursday alone. The fact that Disney bundled two days together should tell you how bad this one's doing.
That's what you get for spitting on this character's legacy and retooling it as a soulless zoomer product with no respect for the past
Try saying this again, but with less seethe and buzzwords.
L. Ron Hubbard is inflating Top Gun numbers
I don't care for 90's dinosaur nostalgia.
the last bastion of quality theatrical animation is dying and you morons are celebrating.
>this thread
No one read news here?
>Gopher put it alot better than I could, but I just think people are vastly underestimating how much low-information consumers (aka most people and families) literally just think all the animated movies come out on Disney+ now. Now to cite favorable anecdotes, but I had two coworkers with kids tell me they were gonna watch Lightyear on Disney+ this week because they thought it was on there! That's a hard habit to break.
>news
woke news entertainment*
This is the entire point
They are letting Lightyear fail so they can move all Pixar to Disney+ and have a reason to justify it
Disney will use this as a reason to stop making movies with white men in the "lead" role. Maybe for the best if this is the slop they're going to make.
That's exactly right, anon. It is time for the black transgendered women to shine, not white cisgendered men.
It's a movie that literally no one asked for nor was interested in. Honestly not surprising that it perform poorly. Although they are definitely going to use the excuse that it was banned in some countries as an excuse for it's poor performance.
I'd rather see Top Gun again.
That whiplash of the 4 year time skip joke felt very weird and uncomfortable, has there ever been something like that before? Like yeah it's funny but progressively gets worse as you realize what Buzz is doing to everyone?
Those preview numbers look bad, but realistically it should do $60-70 million opening weekend based on IP alone, Buzz is well known and loved from the Toy Story movies.
It's harder to be enthusiastic for the legs on this movie, as the reviews have been lackluster which likely means word of mouth will be poor.
I think the main issue is it doesn't really have an audience. Toy Story fans aren't going to like it since Buzz and Zerg are completely different characters here. And pretty much every other demographic I can think of besides the die-hard pixar fanboys are just going to see it as the incredibly bland movie that it is.