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HE IS DAAAAAANGEROUS
ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU LISTEN TO ME
AND REMEMBER
I'VE BEEN YOUR RIGHT-HAND MAN ALL ALONG
YOU HAVE SET THEM ALL ON FIRE
THEY THEY'VE FOUND THE NEW MESSIAH
AND THEY'LL HURT YOU WHEN THEY FIND THEY'RE WRONG
I REMEMBER WHEN THIS WHOLE THING BEGAN
NO TALK OF GOD, THEN WE CALLED YOU A MAN
AND BELIEVE ME, MY ADMIRATION FOR YOU HASN'T DIED
And eeeeevery word you say today, gets twisted round some other way
Sometimes Superstar reads like some histrionic closet case flipping out because his best friend got a gf, especially when his biggest freakouts come right after Mary's songs.
Pure kino
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ALL IS ASK IS DON'T BECOME A JANNY
Reminder that Barry Dennen, who played Pilate, also voiced Fatman in MGS2.
How have I never made this connection
I always wished he got to do wacky Japanese games, too
His literal scream on the line "DIE IF YOU WANT TO!" broke my damn speaker when I first listened to it. Amazing voice.
I've hurt myself trying to replicate that part several times.
Die if you want to, YOU---ack
He also voiced the Ghoul from the casino dlc in F:NV. Dean Domino and The Sierra Madre, I think.
Nazareth
Your famous son
Should have stayed a great unknown
Like his father carving wood
He'd have made good
Tables, chairs and oaken chests
Would have suited Jesus best
He'd have caused nobody harm
No one alarm
>have a fully constructed cinematic idea for a 2020s film adaptation of JCSS in my mind
>just some shit-kicking moronic frogposter so I have no way of implementing my ideas
>interesting angle on the jesus story
>excellent fricking lyrics and score
>great actors
>the worst fricking directing and set design ever
it hurts so bad bros. Why is every version of JCS so shitty? The text itself is fantastic but every director wants to put their own shitty spin on it instead of just doing what it calls for.
pitch me on it anon
I like the cheap looking sets and costumes, makes it look like watching a real musical filmed and gives it personality
>pitch me on it anon
from the rest of your post I know you'll hate it, but just a mostly concurrent setting, lots of elements of life post-internet but it's also still in the Lavant- near the Israel Palestine border.
Gethsemane is a partially bombed-out abandoned hotel built sometime in a more hopeful 90's, signage remains in both English and Hebrew. I imagine scenes here, particularly The Last Supper, cut-away and scrolling through hallways, kind of a cinema nouveau thing. It's one of my favorite songs in the show because it shows this moment that really humanizes the disciples and their relationships with each other and Christ- they're just these pretty young people who are all winding down at the end of the day and trying to feed each other. As Christ and Judas bicker they tear through hallways and down a fire escape before Judas peels off on a motorcycle. I imagine Christ alone in the hotel courtyard by a dried-up pool for Gethsemane.
Priests decked out like israeli religious leaders, pharisees more like modern politicians and judges. They survey situations progressing from a gorgeous glassy high rise. Leather furniture, potted plants, free coffee. The first half of Blood Money is Judas alone in a waiting room running through what he plans to tell a board room full of Ciaphas et al.
Herod/Galilee are blurry representations of The West and America- in Herod's song Christ is forced to make a televised appearance with Talk show host/pundit Herod and is skewered in a court of public opinion.
Herod initially appears as a smartly-dressed legal professional and meets Christ in what seems to be an urbain court, things have deteriorated by the time Christ returns for trial and he's in weathered ill-fitting riot gear. The torture of Christ is live-streamed and as the lashes continue Christ is increasingly pixelated-out to censor the violence.
That's pretty cool. How would you do Pilate (I'm guessing some kinda American military muscle who has to obey pharisees aka zog)? And then how would you modernise superstar at the end?
Simon Zealotes starts off his song seeming like a bland yupster social media promoter but halfway through wraps a keffiyeh around his neck and 75% of the way through is unpacking AK-47s, this scene has Zealotes meeting Christ on the green of a college campus. As young people flock around, Christ reaches into the crates only to hand out baguettes, fruits, vegetables, and whole fish. Zealotes upturns an empty crate in amazement and is handed a flounder.
in that last paragraph I meant to write "Pilate initially appears as a smartly-dressed legal professional", but I'm moronic.
>Superstar
Christ is marched under an oppressive sun on a semi-rural road to the hill he will die on, flanked by an ATV, an American news van, and several heavily armed Israeli soldiers in riot gear on foot, as he stares at a heat-induced mirage ahead of them Judas manifests from the dancing lines. In the suicide scene he returned to the high rise to plead for Christ and once realizing the extent of his betrayal he took the fire escape to the top of the roof and hung himself with that braided steel wire they use for construction, his body smashing against Ciaphas's office window. In Superstar, Judas's apparation has a long red cord about his neck and earnestly tried to assist Christ in carrying the cross, he is eventually dragged by his cord back down through the ground into hell
The set design was brilliant, what are you on? They shot on location in Israel, mostly in the ruins of Herodium.
You can see the dancers sweating as they roll on the actual ground that the stories are set. The directing is perfect
I'll take that over the lame production design of the later versions of JCS. The 1973 film has a grit to it that is utterly lost with the new ones.
I like that it was filmed on location, but then they build incredibly stupid sets on them like Herod's palace being an empty dock on a 3 foot deep lake or the Pharisees just hanging out on scaffolding for some reason.
He was on a party barge out on the Dead Sea and how did you not notice the scaffolding was AROUND ANCIENT RUINS. Pay attention
>they build incredibly stupid sets on them like Herod's palace being an empty dock on a 3 foot deep lake or the Pharisees just hanging out on scaffolding for some reason.
"Reeeee! I'm severely autistic and have no imagination!"
But why did they have novelty condom hats?
>set design
The point of the 1970s film was doing this in Jerusalem and the locations the events would've taken place. I thought it was nice.
1. You're a pleb
2. The "Found Stage" aesthetic is pure 70s. Also see the film version of Godspell.
Gather a crew, sell them on it and make it. There's a shit ton of tiny little productions in any big city doing small gigs. Even if it doesn't become the big hit most people wish for, you'd have made your idea come true.
>when the music swells as they grasp hands and Judas realizes that Jesus is preparing to die
Fricking 10/10
YOU'LL BE LOST, AND YOU'LL BE SORRY
WHEN I'M GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE
2000 or 1973?
73 all the way
original album. any movie is shit.
I agree with you.
My time is almost through
Little left to do
LOOK AT ALL MY TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS
>actually film in Israel
>throw in modern costumes, buses and guns
>throw in modern costumes, buses and guns
Gee anon, do you think that they might have been making a Vietnam Era connection there, or did you miss that too?
I rewatched this a few months ago. He really is the best Judas of all versions I have watched or listened to. At least for me he is. It’s too bad King Herod was such a frick-up, no-singing talent casting choice in this film. The original score Herod was infinitely better. https://youtu.be/psJ7i7X06VE
Mayall isn't a very good singer but you gotta love how much fun he had
Yeah, this one pains me. I’ll always a special place in my heart for PRick but this was uniquely awful. He did seem to have fun with it, though.
I genuinely couldn't finish watching this one. Mostel may not be earth-shatteringly good, but he was at least competent. How was THIS the casting choice?
I have no idea, at all. I really, really don’t. It’s one of the worst casting decisions I’ve seen, and I do hate to say that because I did appreciate Rick, RIP.
For me, Carl Anderson is the best musical performance I've ever seen. Not just singing-wise but his emotional performance too.
He really does just steal the whole fricking film. You almost feel sorry for everybody else, lol.
insane how Jesus gets mogged hard by basically every other character. Judas, Mary Magdalene, Pilate, Simon
dude had the looks and was a solid singer but everyone else is so much better
>black man
>steals something
color me surprised.
I got a chance to see him reprise this role in a touring show with Sebastian Bach as Jesus. Carl Anderson singing those notes live gave me chills. It was great.
When I saw the live performance it was Ted Neeley but Carl had died after that point. The lead singer from In Living Colour was Judas as he did well, but man I missed Carl so much.
Its crazy how much the performance of an individual can give the exact same songs a different life depending on the interpretation.
Anderson's Judas comes across as scared, not knowing what the right move should be-- a truly tormented and conflicted man who doesn't know what "right" is anymore.
Then all the others, to me, just come across as villainous and slimy. A perfectly fine interpretation for Judas but Anderson's is tragic in a way the others aren't.
Like Jérôme Pradon just came across like a fricking hand wringing bad guy...God I hate the 2000 film
HEY COOL IT MAN
I loved the version with John Legend, I wish NBC did more live musicals though I heard they're supposed to do Hair.
I didn't like it because everyone seemed confused by their own motivations. I was getting bugged by it generally, but I shut it off after "I Don't Know How To Love Him"; that was fricking awful. Technically competent, technically quite good actually, but the actress playing Mary, I have to assume, had received direction so incompetent as to be considered criminal.
I like the original cast for the most part, but I listen to the movie soundtrack because "Then We Are Decided" is necessary for the rest of the album for me. At the same time, "Can We Start Again Please" sucks my ass and I usually skip it, so call it a wash.
>"Can We Start Again Please"
I get mad remembering that this one exists.
>IF YOU'D COME TODAY
>YOU WOULD HAVE REACHED THE WHOLE NATION
herod's song is top tier as well.
My favorite part is how Judas threatens to ruin all of Jesus plans and his bullshit talk about how you're all just powerless puppets in this inevitable play simply by not reporting him to the Romans.
Can you imagine if he actually followed through on that? What would the alternate history look like?
Romans would probably nab him during a sermon or on a march, suffer a few casualties, kill some followers, kill some israeli civilians prompting slightly more israeli sympathy to Christ but he'd still get crucified.
I don't think it'd be that simple. If it really was God's preordained plan for everything to go as it did and meaning for his own son to die as bogus as that is ("why should I diiiie?"), then Judas would literally be pulling some divine sorcery or something to defy it and the ramifications of that would be unfathomable.
Hmmm, you should read the graphic novel Judas, it's kind of a fun interpretation of Judas's place in the Christ narrative
One of you here dining,
One of my twelve chosen
Will leave to betray me.
JUDAS
Cut the dramatics!
You know very well who.
JESUS
Why don't you go do it?
JUDAS
You want me to do it!
JESUS
Hurry, they are waiting.
JUDAS
If you knew why I do it
JESUS
I don't care why you do it!
JUDAS
To think I admired you.
Well now I despise you.
JESUS
You liar. You Judas.
JUDAS
You want me to do it!
What if I just stayed here
And ruined your ambition.
Christ you deserve it.
Kino.
>goes from this to the fricking jaded mandarin line
crazy quality disparity there
The movie with the shrieker guy sucked, the original cast recording album with Ian Gillan is amazing
I actually liked the 2000 version. Especially that super Roman look.
I liked leatherdaddy Pilate, and I thought 2000 Judas while very whiny was an exceptional actor.
It's pretty shit but that This Jesus Must Die is fricking god tier
To conquer death you only have to die.
This frickin guy
Here's a big question. Do you think Judas is in Heaven or Hell?
I've always interpreted his suicide as an act of extreme penitence and his role in Christ's story crucial. If Judas died seeking Christ's forgiveness he is in heaven.
If Judas was just a pawn in an inescapable fate then that seems kind of bogus to send him to hell for that doesn't it?
if God's preordainance isan excuse to not go to Hell, nobody should be in hell.
What if it's only preordainance to fulfill the plan of getting his son to die for everyone's sins and after that everything is free will?
Heaven. Had that exact question in a theology class
Is this intentionally bad? As in like a parody or something?
I like bald whiny manlet Jesus but I also grew up watching a vhs of this production since I was a brat, so-