>literally every adventure, fantasy, scifi, superhero and history movie is built up like this

>literally every adventure, fantasy, scifi, superhero and history movie is built up like this

How do we fix it, Cinemaphile?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why fix it? It's a perfect lizardbrain storytelling formula. It's got a hook, relationships that represent opposing forces for our protagonist, a midstory reached goal/twist/punishment etc that makes you feel fulfilled and makes you pay more attention, and it's got emotional development focused mostly in the second half when we are aware of our protagonist's life etc so we can emphasize. It doesnt have to be this way, but aside from some quirks all the good stories work like that. The stories of Jon snow, naruto, luffy, Jaime lannister, kaladin, Walter white, et al work pretty much the same way.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It can't be fixed: the hero's journey has always been sociological fanfiction courtesy of Joseph Campbell.
    It's not bad as a tool for examining narrative structure however it's far, far from being a universal constant of story telling.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    That shit is so general you can interpret any story to fit the formula.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because alternatives are generally shit stories
    >hero wins first time and suffers no setback
    Shit
    >story starts with hero at the top of his game and they stay there
    Shit
    >no mentor and hero just improves on their own
    Shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>no mentor and hero just improves on their own
      name a single movie

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        all isekai anime

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isekai doesn't follow any pacing scheme at all. It's just meandering power fantasy. It's like watching someone play skyrim with console commands on

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          ah, so THAT'S why it sucks.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]

      starts with hero at the top of his game and they stay there
      would work great as a comedy

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >story starts with hero at the top of his game and they stay there

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    watch crime films instead

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bittersweet ending where the hero loses something or everything to win

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Joseph Campbell is a hack who's formula doesn't fit any particular myth. People just take bits and pieces of his formula and look for elements from a film that match this and declare said film is using this formula.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Normally a brain this smooth would qualify as a new state of matter.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hero's journey
    >you really really think the hero will win at the end
    >he loses
    Love this trope. I like to see them fail like I did

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Campbell was a moron. Everything fits his formula because it's meaninglessness vague. For "refusal of the call" he cites examples that range from running away from a rapist to falling asleep.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand what confuses you.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I have discovered a story structure with 12 steps
        >but most of my examples only have a 2/3 of the 12
        >and every step needs to be interpreted symbolically, so it covers a wide range of vaguely related ideas

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >hey have you noticed how every story features a character attempting to do something?
    >this is called le hero's journey
    >being reductive is smart and cool

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Trannies and art hoes flooding the Internet with their useless reddit opinions was a mistake

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The heros journey is literally real life. Everyone goes through it learning how to do something difficult.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    heh

    wrong

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Campbell is a hack moron

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

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    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      hey look. it's my life

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