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Why are there black elves?
Sometime elves get jungle fever too
because the fanbase is inherently racist, so it has to be done. for justice
Didn't Obama confirm that all white people have racism in their DNA?
This. Rings of Power is reparations for the injustices the British have done to American blacks.
They should hire you.
>"should"? they did it 35 days ago
There's not a single black Elf. This has been confirmed by Amazon months ago. Pic related is a Half-Elf.
>There's not a single black Elf. This has been confirmed by Amazon months ago. Pic related is a Half-Elf.
Oh yeah because that makes it so much better... implying if it came out like that the elves wouldn't have drowned it.
Elves can’t sleep with orcs without dying of spiritual disintegration so half Black folk are impossible
You're talking about elvish women, and how they would die if raped. Pic related's father is an Elf.
But wasn't only two known couples of human and elf?
>He thinks they read the books
It was three.
Five if you count Elrond and Elros.
You've never heard of dark elves?
Like the sindar or silvan elves? The elves who never beheld the light of the trees but are of the same stock as the high elves who did make it to Valinor.
Drow dont exist in Arda, Dark Elves in Tolkien's lore are simply elves that never set out to Valinor and beheld the light of the trees, the Moriquendi. It has nothing to do with their skin colour but their life choice on middle earth. All the elves when described in the lore are pale skinned. Tolkien being a man born in victorian times who lived before the massive multicultural experiment forces upon western nations understood the natural ethnic development of the world and his writings match that. So there aren't random people of subsaharan origin among the elves of men of the west, but there are swarthy folk to the east and south as would be expected.
Agreed, but Tolkien did grow up in South Africa, although his most vivid memories about that seem to be about spiders.
Why not?
>Well, they were described as fair skinned until now
Different time. Most of the elf population fled Middle Earth by the time the Hobbit began.
>chudoids and bots
The irony being people didn't want to see that horseshit because it was a #metoo shitfest imbued with modern sensibilities
>*incoherent monkey screeching noises*
what did she mean by this?
bad analogy, sorry
why do you save dumb shit from Twitter. are the (you)s really that rewarding? Twitter has a billion people saying dumb exaggerated shit every single second of every day to get attention. It's not worth YOUR attention and distorts your perception of the world to look at this stuff constantly.
>bad analogy, sorry
oh, is it?
well are you going to say WHY it’s bad?
no of course you won’t, because you can’t.
>damage control
>capitalizing black
>When reddit tries to sound smart
>dude you can't complain about anything except for the stuff we allow you to complain about like muh gay rights and shieet
that's all this boils down too. pretending that they're arguing in good faith is missing the point
even the majority of top comments are neutral/negative at this point
lotr fandom is probably the most based one there is
>lotr fandom is the chuddest one
yes
>You can't be conservative and a true geek
I got called a geek all my life and back when I was younger it wasn't a good thing. Does that mean I'm automatically a cool chad now? Nice.
you were always the part of the cool club, anon
Who the frick is this guy? And does he realize that standards change over time? An old comic book series can have some progressive elements for the standard of the time it was made and also some very more or less explicit racism or mysoginistic elements that we would consider "aged like milk" by today standards.
He's spot on in his second option, the people who claim "x was always woke" are parasite secondaries who never belonged anywhere near the fandom to begin with.
That's very funny, but the 90% of people that spammed that badly quoted Tolkien phrase about evil were either ignorant of the story of LOTR or pretty much casual viewer with no real fandom engagement.
Those who repeats "ugh is woke / pozzed / SJW ect.." are the real parasites that aren't real fan but just pathetic man children that cannot grow the frick out of their echochamber, simple as
>nono the people I agree with aren't the parasites, it couldn't be!
no reason to type so much to say so little mang
you just said absolutely nothing and it was cringe
>Who the frick is this guy?
seriously who does he think he is saying things that make me mad by making sense i don’t like! I WANT HIS BADGE HES NOT EVEN FAMOUS OR HAS A BLUE CHECKMARK MOOOOOOOMMMM!!!
watch how the israelite recoils as he is called out
saved
Is this guy writing for the new show? I bet he's really excited for the subversion. He should an hero.
because Tolkien is an incel chud, like you
Elves have always been black
your ever read any Tolkien?
Everybody and everything has always been black.
Literally the only white character in all of fiction is adolf hitler.
Elves in Germanic mythology could also phase though walls and were the same race as dwarves.
rape, sadly many such cases
no
Diversity checkmarks
you will still watch it.
that's what it matters in the end.
And everybody who watches it will be made to pay one way or another.
The frick I am
I'm not even pirating it
No I won't. I've barely watched anything this year other than bollywood movies with attractive casting.
nope, I won't even be baited into rage watching
I wont. I will, however, cancel my prime in september.
why not now? I've been boycotting Amazon since the first trailer dropped and intend to never support it again
no
I might torrent it if the memes on Cinemaphile are good enough
Cope
I will pirate it twice and delete it two times.
I'm.not
I literally won't though. Just like I didn't watch The Witcher even though I'm a big fan of both franchises.
Seriously, who cares? Why would I watch something that isn't canon?
I won't even pirate it.
>you will watch it
I haven't watched any modern media in 10 years and I certainly won't watch this shit. But I will make fun of it and shit on it when it comes out.
true, but I wont pay a cent for it
if its really bad I might even seed
They waited until the moment Christopher Tolkien was dead so they could make this show. His body wasn't even cold yet. You reap what you sow
Why would I watch this when LOTR and the books exist?
This anon is correct. All you morons that claim to hate diversity and capeshit are watching The Boys, Thor, Resident Evil on Netflix, etc. You will watch this garbage too.
Nope. Not even pirating this garbage. Just like the Witcher. Never seen it and never plan to.
Cope
They are always so wienery, I hope people ignore this series and it bombs. Frick this mystery meat mutt
>I hope people ignore this series and it bombs
it can't bomb because millions of people have amazon prime because of muh free shipping and are counted as subscribers irregardless of them watching any of their garbage shows or not.
No you dumbshit, they can see each show's view count in the backend.
Is he mentally moronic?
Foul.
extremely disrespectful. unfit to play even random orc fodder
He says as he drives mass produced product and wears product earbuds nuking his stupid wog c**t brain
Cringe
Annoying people is a bold marketing strategy
Greek?
Puerto Rican
That's the girl who was prostituted out to Tom Cruise through Scientology. They hand picked her to be his girlfriend, without her agreeing.
And this dude looks like he's had multiple rounds of botox.
Frick he’s disgusting
instead quote about evil only being able to steal and corrupt
I thought an Elf looked like this
Yeah, that's Maedhros.
Black tim pool?
Yeah, lets piss of more consumers, fricking moronic nigg.
N'wah
This is legit disgusting. Why are nogs so full of themselves? Them the show bombs and they blame "le wypipo".
seethe
It’ll break amazon viewership records for the first 2 episodes and there’ll be multiple articles bragging about this but by the finale the ratings will be dead and no one will care
This. I feel bad for our mousefrau though. If there's a Britanon, do go put a ring on her.
Doubt. This show literally makes me want to throw up. Massive waste of money concentrated to destroy beauty. There's an uncanny valley for a content cluster this size it just doesn't have a name yet.
>Massive waste of money concentrated to destroy beauty
How in the frick is this supposed to destroy beauty? Seems like a very subjective statement from your side
You mean like how The Witcher "was watched by more people than Game of Thrones" lol
>nice outfits
>great set designs
>good soundtrack
>lovely landscapes
>comfy atmosphere
>add in black people
>add in oc donuts
why do they do it? IDK if I am insane but black hobbits and elves is enough to put me off
>NOOOO THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE AHHHHHHH I AM LOSING MY MIND AHHHHH
1.There are PoC in real life
2. White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
>White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
bullshit
They aren't people.
They could have made an original fantasy setting and there wouldn't (probably) be any butthurt about black elves and dwarfs. Instead they shit on Tolkien's worldd which is based on anglo-scandinavian myths.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Lotr is for everybody. Deal. With. It.
kys yourself redit glowie
Tolkien: "I want to create a mythos for England"
Some guy on Twitter: Tolkien did not want to create a mythology for England
>black people have always been in Europe
Yeah, as 0,00000000000001% of the population, mostly as some random merchant.
>okay, this take is wrong here's why, and yikes!
man these people are so predictable, they always talk like they're speaking down to someone dumber than them. Their twitter audience already agrees with them, so who do they think they're performing to?
Tolkien literally said he was making a mythology for England.
It's fine to say Tolkien was wrong, but then as a wrong-doer wouldn't the consistent response be to not constantly adapt and re-adapt the works and ideas of a racist?
>He acute
If it's in Peter Jackson-verse then all the elf races have already been shown. Tolkien definitely described all of them as being explicitly white. There are a few distinctions of elf tribes' Light/High, Grey, Dark; or Vanyar, Teleri, Noldor
>I really dont give a frick if the elves are black as long as they ALL are black.
As racist as I am I'm also fine with this sort of thing, it's consistent world building. I thought the Witcher series was going to do this at first but then they blew it.
I think the promo material is that he's half Avari, likely Nandor, and southern human.
I think the show is actually keeping all 100% elves white.
>I think the promo material is that he's half Avari, likely Nandor, and southern human.
Great, another supah sekrit interspecies relationship, of course.
He was also the best at the Cuiviénen fighting academy.
The idea that if you lived in a village during the medieval period that youre neighbours would likely be sub-Saharan African or Pakistanis is such disingenuous bollocks
your*
>your argument makes you insecure
>Heres 10 posts showing how insecure I am
What a duuuumb Black person
Twitter PHD
Echochamber, grasping at straws, getting likes from other morons, who cares, we all know social media was a mistake, cuz morons like this gets an audience.
This. I'm not interested in a rehash of Lord of The Rings based on some verses at the end of Silmarillion. Make your own Ip with black elves (bonus point if you model them after Olga Discordia)
>White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
We do.
Jason and the argonauts? Ours.
True story? Ours
The hobbit? Ours
DnD? Ours
LotR? Ours
Wheel of time? Ours
Discworld? Ours.
Now there are other kinds of fantasies we dont own. Arabian nights for example. And guess what. White people love it and dont want to be in it at the same time. When Aladin was remade... where were the white people? Still managed to get a black in the main cast though.
Wuju fantasy in china is the same. The only time white people are in it was (when it was too hard to get english speaking asian actors decades ago) and when they are asked to be in them (the great wall)
>And guess what. White people love it and dont want to be in it at the same time
Then wtf is this?
I see a black person too anon. Also if Nollywood wants to make their own lotr based.
If bollywood made an indian adaptation of the hobbit i'd love it
>If bollywood made an indian adaptation of the hobbit i'd love it
Imagine RRR-style Lotr/Hobbit movie. Jesus Christ, that would be best movie in the world.
The thing is Hollywood has forgotten about things like scope, reverence, grandiosity and larger than life. It's not just diversity hires. It's incompetency and failure of imagination that irks too. Diversity hires is like a piece of goat shit on top of horse shit. CGI is not going to get away and the greed of Hollywood took over. Also not learning from the older technical masters really hurt. It's not all gone but it takes will power and a change of cultural climate. Hollywood took serious blows in late 60s and then we witnessed the New Hollywood movement that was better than ever. Even better than the so-called Golden Age of Cinema in the 40s.
what's the problem?
>Jason and the argonauts?
Greeks that are utterly alien culturally and genetically from modern day Europeans.
>DND
Jews.
>Wheel of time
Jews.
>Discworld?
Jews.
>DND
Jehovah's Witness
>Wheel of Time
Catholic
>Discworld
Atheist
>White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
>We do.
Tfw whites are responsible for the last great fantasy epic: 1990s America
THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE AHHHHHHH I AM LOSING MY MIND AHHHHH
>1.There are PoC in real life
>2. White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
it's another non-whites think they are part of europe and its history episode
cultural appropriation friend. it either works both ways or it isn't a thing
>1.There are PoC in real life
yeah there's also other unpleasant useless garbage in real life I don't need to see on tv.
>2. White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
yes they do, frick off.
>take thing that is a fictional universe that has nothing to do with ours
>change it to ours
>not just make your own
Why? And I'm not even a LOTR fan, im watching this dumpster fire without a dog in the fight. it's just stupid
>White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
>they don't understand why whites climb mountains
1. LOTR isn't real life
2. LOTR isn't the entire fantasy genre
In summary you are brown, cope
>White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
Have you ever asked yourself why you get no african fantasies, outside of capeshit?
Someone should write that YWNBAW copy pasta, but change it around to be for black people having no folklore or written history before white people showed up to do it for them. Maybe a line about never inventing a wheel too
>7/11 don't own da contents of day cash registuh. It belong to er'body (mostly me, doh).
>1.There are PoC in real life
Hopefully that changes one day
>2. White people dont own the fantasy genre. It belongs to everybody
Yes we do just like most things you envy us for
>It belongs to everybody
This never ends good does it ?
1. There are Black folk in real life
FTFY
>There are PoC in real life
There shouldn't be.
This, expect racists.
Death camps, here we come!
Nobody wants to see a bunch of shitskins shitty up Western literature. They shouldn't even be in the West to begin with.
>Nobody
Sorry, but if he's a racist his opinion is irrelevant.
Actual people meanwhile either disagree or don't care.
>They shouldn't even be in the West to begin with.
You shouldn't be alive in the first place.
J.R.R. Tolkien's works DO NOT belong to everyone. They belong to HIM. If you're so hot for fantasy, make your own. Stop ruining everyone else's.
He's dead, you moron. Corpses have no belongings.
You really think the sets and costumes are good? They are mediocre. Second Age stuff should look better than Third Age, which is a decline age. The better looking armours & swords worn by kings in the Third Age are all old hand-me-downs made by elves in the First & Second
>Second Age stuff should look better than Third Age
They haven't even shown any of the good stuff yet
Silence, brand
The movies that peter Jackson made are not cannon to the style of the books.
In the books Aragon and Boromir look like anglo saxon warriors, in the movie it's late medieval/ residence style. So it is impossible to make 2nd age stuff look better without just going full moron fantasy
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They do it because companies literally have quotas to fill. I imagine most high ups hate it just as much as you do, but have to pretend to like it so they don’t tank their careers.
Well I hope ratings aren't one of the quotas cause I'm skipping this blackwashing shit.
They spent decades crying about how there no blacks in the Peter Jackson LotR movies, cuckmazon wouldn't want to deal with the backlash.
This basically, as far as I can tell they actually tried to fit them in within the framework the movies set up
Don't get me wrong much of what they have done is pretty forced but its not like the high elves are suddenly multi racial, they kept them all white
>nice outfits
Yeah, really nice.
Nice outfits
>Where? You mean the cheap leather?
Set designs, landscape, atmosphere
>My homie, u have watched to much marvel boi, its all CGI u copium bruddah. Looks like shit, Peters looks 10 times better cuz it had real fricking props, not this green shit looking fricker ala fricking hobbit shit.
>Literally every comment is negative
It's intentional. Any publicity and traffic is good marketing. They want your seethe because it still makes them money.
Best would be to ignore it completely but that will never happen. Humans are too moronic.
they literally got one of the most popular franchises of all time
>anything that happens is how they wanted it to happen
>they're completely in control
>the market has no agency
Okay, midwit
WHY would elves in a primitive society have a buzz cut
What was he watching?
Why is he using only one finger? Is it some special elf technique?
He's training his hobbit pussy game
incredibly ripped fingers. dyel bro?
Why does he look like the chud meme?
>Unironically posting facebook comments
This board is dead
How about you actually link to it so we can see for ourselves? Fricking moron OP
>"Every comment is negative, guise"
>Doesn't cap any of them
Frick off.
Are people still spamming that Tolkien quote about evil?
>one billion dollars to make a tv show about a medieval society with medieval weaponry, medieval armor, medieval politics and medieval wars
>A FRICKING BUZZCUT
I DON'T EVEN GIVE A SHIT ABOUT HIS RACE.
THEY GAVE A FRICKING LORD OF THE RINGS CHARACTER A GOD DAMN 21ST CENTURY STYLE CELEBRITY BUZZCUT
Many of the elves so far have short hair. They're morons.
I could with a stretch accept these styles since you could easily see them using basic scissors, but it breaks down because those don't even try to mimic a medieval hairstyle, it looks like they just got out of the movie set barber's chair five minutes ago
fixed
NOOOOO NOT SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM MUH JACKSONERINO FANFICARINO
WE ALL KNOW HE LITERALLY OUT TOLKIENED TOLKIEN
Elves were described as having long hair.
>Elves were described as having long hair
Quote me
Before you do that also clarify what length is long too as this is a relative, not definitive, term
>what length is long too as this is a relative
How about you show me what the pic in OP is relatively long compared to? It would have to be negative hair because that isn't even long compared to completely bald.
This one is more interesting:
>"Elves are (generally) unusually beautiful in face and body. There is little physical difference between males and females except that which is required for reproduction."
The History of Middle-earth, Vol. X: Morgoth’s Ring, “Laws and Customs among the Eldar
>There is little physical difference between males and females
Tolkien was fairly progressive in the way he depicted elves tbh
At least for his time
That doesn't mean they fricked everyone and had polyamorous relationships moron it means that they were such powerful beings that they each had their own shit to do and didn't physically bind themselves to their spouse at all times.
Dilate
They don't even look/feel like elves.
Good god why did they pick such ugly people to play elves?
My exact thought. I thought the fat elf in LotR was pushing it.
>THEY DIDN'T HAVE BUZZCUTS IN ANTIENT ROME
I hope you are meming but Just in case, you could get a buzz cut with a razor
>holding the bow sideways
Well, he is black
>vertical in low-ground combat
>leaning more from the high-ground
frick off WB shill
yep, looks like for this particular film, maybe for all films which include archery, getting the shot with the camera overrides getting the shot with the bow.
Archer here, There's nothing wrong with canting the bow as long as you know how it will affect the arrow flight. But A & D both have some serious problems with how he's hooking the string and placing the arrow
What truly baffles me about it is that they don't even try to make it make sense within the context. I would be more forgiving if they at least explained where they come from, but why is middle earth diverse in the way Brooklyn is diverse? From where are these token neagros coming?
>Should have just said the haradim and mixed with some numenour long time ago and now some of the half elfs are literally mixed race
I'm fanboying so hard right now. LOTR nerds, our time has come!!!!!
I just hope that we get to see at least some cameos from Marvel characters. Imagine if the elves are fighting a losing battle against Sauron, it's raining, things are looking dark....and then WHAM!
Captain America and Black Panther show up and fuuuuck shit up! Haha. Maybe throw in a Thor cameo too? That would be dope.
I also would like to see a crossover between LOTR and Peaky Blinders. Sauron is being a terrible human being, acting all racist, and the Peaky fricking Blinders enter the scene and shank his ass.
>spend one billion dollars on a tv show you deliberately restrict to a minuscule subset of your audience (most of whom are just whiners who don't even plan on watching) while actively shitting on your longest, most loyal fans
>"how did we lose money?"
I’ve used a bow this way
does work
>nooo you have to shoot in exactly the same style as contemporary archers
What kind of shitty bow is that? I have a recurve bow and you need more than one hand to draw it.
the problem is that no bow you can pull with the first knuckle of one finger is going to have a draw weight high enough to be useful for anything. it's an explicit visual cue that he's using a prop, so it will break immersion even for people who can't quite put their finger on what's wrong.
he's using 2 fingers you idiots
He has a six fingered hand?
all the comments on there are almost verbatim here hurling words at each other like dilate, cope, seethe, die mad
everyone is a Cinemaphilener
die mad and die late
resistance xisters... chuds are laughing at our corporate allies again
*corporate masters
Why do they destroy everything they touch?
>Why do they destroy everything they touch?
they unironically hate europeans on a racial basis
I don’t mind how he holds the bow. It’s fantasy maybe these super archers handle bows differently than humans
But what I’m really looking forward to is when viewership dies and it’s toxic fans fault again
>it's fantasy maybe physics is different
no, this is dumb
Comparing elves to human capabilities misses the point entirely
Wait till you find out that elves don’t leave footprints and can walk on snow without sinking
homie elves have never seen snow
>It’s fantasy
moron.
the amount of posts is proportionate to the amount of money they will make even if everyone hates it
>to the amount of money they will make even if everyone hates it
actually no. they need people to like it so they can sell merchandise.
obviously they will claim it is successful no matter what, but meritocracy does still exist.
>if hate our show and don’t watch it and discourage others to not watch it, we make money
Astronomical cope
if they removed all brown people this could be good
I'd rather watch Tom Cruise's whole filmography twice
Man, for all people give shit him. He has Interview With A Vampire, Eyes Wide Shut, Vannila Sky, Magnolia (I only like his role ; I forgot literally everything else) and so on. I don't see much artistic quality in his action movies but they came out at a time when I used to be happy.. Anyway.
I mean it unironically. Watching Risky Business today.
How is that bad? Now, if you said you'd rather watch GoT twice...
The black elves could be one of the other elf races. I forget the names but werent there like three different ones? I really dont give a frick if the elves are black as long as they ALL are black.
The one in the show is a Silvan, pretty shit tier elves that live in the woods. I have no idea what the other Silvan elves look like in this show though, they haven't shown any others.
Hes likely either an half wood elf (lowest plebian tier of the "light elves") or an half Avari ("dark" elves that rejected the offering to move to Valar and so arent as whise/enlighted as the other elves, but otherwise looks the same and arent evil. Just more human-like in attitude)
Why do people even watch TV anymore?
>noooo you can't just draw your bow like that why is this fantasy character not shooting like a western olympic archer
Two words: Draw Strength.
That's four words.
feet
RANGZ OF POWAR
>RANGS! RANGS! FIGHT THE POWAH!
Anyone laughing at the costumes?
>Bows are the signature weapon of elves
>every scene with Arondir we've seen so far he's been wielding a bow
>yet the actor doesn't know how to convincigly draw a bow
I'm guessing the action scenes will be shit.
>I'm guessing the action scenes will be shit.
The two very short clips in the latest teaser looked fine, one with Galadriel fighting a troll and the other with the brown elf in some pit fight with a proto-warg thing
The stunt co-ordinator is Glenn Suter, he's done some good work in the past tbh
You should have a nice day
They couldn’t even bother giving him a long hair?
Why is it always with shaved head
There's no way Rangz is going to fail because Amazon and their media allies can simply change the metric of success to whatever they want.
>Here's why nobody watching Rangz is a good thing.
Ironically the casting is the least of the issues but it's a visual metaphor for how much it will suck on the writing side of things. Look at who wrote this shit
homie moment
Punisher is too based for Marvel honestly. The seethe he causes is great though.
Is there an actor who actually looks like this punisher? Bernthal and his rat face were just so wrong for the role
frank has many faces
The thing about Amazon prime is that a lot, most even in my opinion, people have a subscription to it for the faster delivery speed
So unlike other pure streaming services. Do they even care if the views on their original programming aren’t good?
I don't think they spent $500 million on production just to advertise 2 day shipping
Because blacks are a privileged class that must be shoehorned into everything to meet diversity quotas and ESG kickbacks.
>Dead on arrival?
No. People will watch it.
Do you seriously think even a single one of these subhumans would have paid money? They would have pirated it even if they were, though frankly I imagine most of them will anyway, going to see it.
Women and soys will still watch it
rest in power, knig
>The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own.
i will not be watching, i will watch the meme videos/webms that will be posted on youtube and shared on this website within minutes of each episode being available. i will laugh at said memes and then i will forget about this show.
these books never existed right? it's just tv exec fan fiction? going to be beyond terrible...
There's stuff from actual Tolkien works in the series from what I understand but many of the characters are original too. It's pretty much corporate fanfiction with some canon stuff put in there.
Most of the Tolkien written stuff will come later so s1 will be the most fanficy
I think the ratio book to OC characters is around 50/50 but locations wise it's almost all Tolkien with the odd oc village included, although they might expand to further afield in future season and create some more
>one finger draw
>hand inversed
>not at cheek
>angled bow
>arm not extended
Could they really not train him like they trained Legolas?
me and the lads right before we slaughter some Teleri fricking shits
I don't care about the skin color of the elves. I care about their culture and style and mannerisms, which don't have to match the LotR trilogy, but I want them to seem otherworldly, patient, wise, and superior to humans. I will judge the show based on this and not whether someone is light skinner or dark skinned.
you will all watch it because you have nothing better to do
bye
have a nice day shill
Congrats Hollywood elves. You killed America.
This show has literally nothing to do with the stories of Tolkien. Why does it even exist apart from being a quick cash grab?
To destroy White Supremacy
Wonder who is behind this series and the Black personification of Tolkien's work.
if you have a amazon prime account you watched this already.
don't you homosexuals get it yet?
hrm...I'd rather watch Bionicle: The Mask of Light
why are you complaining? of course black elves will use a hood grip
You know if by chance this series happens to be good somehow, it'll be good DESPITE the black casting. The diversity will actually drag down what's good.
And yet, articles will celebrate the show as a victory for diversity.
It will still only get worse. When 10 years ago, you could make a joke about African-American elves being created, now they are a reality and there are people defending that they SHOULD exist. Modern writing has become a total shitshow.
makes me sick, how far we dun fell
choosing an actor with dark skin is casting, not writing. you could make all the elves orange and it would change nothing about the story. if they include a subplot about dark elves being discriminated against, sure, but there is zero evidence of anything like that happening. It's just the actor(s) happening to have dark skin.
>they just happen to have dark skin
>they just happen to hate white people openly in articles
>they just happen to promote diversity for the sake of diversity
>they just happen to rewrite beautiful literature so they can insert African-Americans to meet their diversity quota
Everything you say happens to be corporate swill. Save it for the Twitter swines.
>beautiful literature
Instead of using beautiful just say white, you dogwhistiling swine
>you could make all the elves orange and it would change nothing about the story
Well it would change that the entire audience will be thinking "hold on why the frick are elves orange now? and why arent any of the characters pointing it out?"
In much the same way they are now going "hold on why are there black elves and dwarves and hobbits now? Is there some africa like continent nearby where they all come from?"
the wtiting is going to be fricking atrocious judging from the teaser
>You have not seen what I've seen
>I have seen my share
>You have not seen what I've seen
who greenlit this fricking garbage
Of course it's going to get worse. This is setting a terrible and dishonest racial precedent. "See, if the blacks are good actors why not cast more good black actors?". Sigh.
>if the blacks are good actors why not cast more good black actors?
What's your problem with this exactly?
Because the narrative doesn't involve black people? How are you just up and missing the point?
>cast a white elf-like person: "Wow great casting, she looks just like an elf!"
>cast a black dude for the diversity quota: "I-it doesn't matter what he looks like!"
It's a fricking audio-VISUAL medium. What they look like is massively important.
I remember how lefties had no problem with the casting of Avatar the Last Empire and Dragonball
Evolution...oh....wait...
Leftists are flagrant hypocrites who never live up to their own standards. They should be ignored.
>Avatar the Last Empire and Dragonball
Evolution
Oh yeah, that's the only issue with those movies.
If the acting was good, nobody would have gave a frick.
The future of entertainment/literature/media/etc is the absolute rape of the past. Nothing is sacred. Everything is soon to be a cluster frick of dishonesty, and this includes science.
There is no actual escaping it. Humans are disingenuous garbage. If the Rings of Power does good, it will send out a terrible racial precedent for diversity in storytelling. Narrative faithfulness is outweighed by politics and arrogance/hubris.
Just look at the Tolkien Society. (pic)
Surely this is just astroturfing? This is so over the top, it can't be real
The Tolkien Society may be run by socially inept autists who don't understand certain social queues.
>old rich white male who don't know shit about real world
yep
The average middle class bong are massive virtue signallers, that's who make up the Tolkien Society
I bet many of them don't actually care about this kind of shit, they just want to make it seem like they do for good boy/girl points
https://www.tolkiensociety.org/events/tolkien-society-summer-seminar/#:~:text=The%20Tolkien%20Society%20Seminar%20is,400%20attendees%20from%2037%20countries.
Jesus. It's actually real. I thought it was a meme image someone just wrote up. Wtf.
This is extreme.
That's what the Tolkien fanbase is like in the UK, bongs will absolutely eat this show up
its just one seminar with the topic of diversity, so naturally all the works will cover that subject, its not like they talk about those questions all the time
>They are destroyint ur culture noooooo
So this is the type of seethe a literal high budget fan fiction can make on /misc/tards? That's very funny I have to admit
Why are you trying so hard?
I'm just having fun to see anons here seething at the outrage of the month
Can we just skip to the part where you admit it's happening and it's brave and powerful?
I dont want to waste my time every thread.
See:
White culture is fine. What is being destroyed is the absence of culture you worship.
>What is being destroyed is the absence of culture you worship
???
Yes. You love the absence of culture. Actual white culture is fine.
Nobody even understands what you're talking about lol
>Actual white culture is fine.
oh so now it’s the part where you get to define things for us
Yes. You are a subhuman, your opinion counts for nothing.
>Is that your excuse when Anne Boleyn is turned into a black woman
No, I just don't care.
>Or a Norse god is turned into a black man?
I've accepted Skadi actually being a Scottish immortal, Quetzolacth being obsessed with lucha wrestling, and Zeus being a transforming mecha. A black man is not that different frankly.
>Or when you have various black people walking around in medieval England in knight's armor?
Ever heard of acting and extras?
Like, there was a show about knights in my home country made on a budget of about one waffle. Nobody gave a frick you could see cars in the background because it was a television show.
>No, I just don't care.
why are you even in this discussion then
Because I don't care and I'm tired of you people pretending this is the death of civilization. If she does her job, like a actor, then it's fine.
I do find it downright laughable though when people complain about gods being depicted as black being odd. If you can't get creative when it comes to the fricking Norse gods, you should just stay away from any mythology. Just wait until you find out about what Loki got up to.
>If she does her job, like a actor, then it's fine.
She doesn't because she doesn't look the part.
Didn't read the rest that just stood out to me.
>She doesn't because she doesn't look the part.
Irrelevant, if her acting is fine I don't care about how she looks.
Like, when you watch Star Trek or Doctor who do you question why most of the Aliens look exactly like Humans?
>if her acting is fine I don't care
Sure, if she looks the part.
Irrelevant. Acting trumps appearances every time.
Plenty of things matter. Just not the inane nonsense you care about, subhuman.
Yes. You are insane and irrational, and have a massive double standard.
I mean, if they want to have the orcs go full 40K, be my guest.
>Acting trumps appearances every time.
Cute bait
Yes.
moron
>story accuracy, integrity of fictional world, compelling character development, none of that shit matters to me bruh
>just give me some bright colours to watch and let me zone out while I blaze one up
>i dun care bout nuffin
Thanks for your opinion.
>story accuracy,
Almost all historical fiction is dribble.
>integrity of fictional world
Again, gods being black is not breaking anything. They could be a giant flying disk and I would accept it.
>compelling character development
Skin tone doesn't matter for htat.
>bruh what if like bruh
>what if lotr elves were black but also cyborgs bruh
>awww sheeeiiit
>i can see it let me hit that pipe cuz
>>what if lotr elves were black but also cyborgs
That would make less sense since they are genuinely closer to nature.
So you do care about integrity of a fictional world?
When there is a point to it, no.
Like I said above, Orcs literally using modern tech, while silly, would at least be thematically and conceptually consistent. Much like Elves being black is.
I'm still immensely baffled how you can't see how contradicting you are. Do you really not see how stupid you're being? I guess that would require a semblance of intelligence so probably not.
Keep consuming and wondering why you don't feel fulfilled from all the generic shows you watch.
the question shouldnt be
>why is it a problem that they were all changed to be black
the question should be
>why was it a problem to jest leave them as they were originally
>why was it a problem to jest leave them as they were originally
Well, if you wanted to leave them "as they were originally" they wouldn't be anything because the original work is a book.
>I'm still immensely baffled how you can't see how contradicting you are.
I'm not contradicting myself, you dumbass. A fictional universe not being consistent is fine IF it has a point.
>bruh hand me that blazestick bruh
>get this cuh
> A fictional universe not being consistent is fine IF it has a point.
>ahaha ah shit i'm blazed the frick out
Why is this such a hard idea for you to understand? Especially in a visual medium, it's a very common way to make a point.
>if you wanted to leave them "as they were originally" they wouldn't be anything because the original work is a book.
wow, you must think this was a witty retort on your part
holy shit
You dont see yourself contradicting? Like, you say change is fine, and youre telling me that basically change didnt exist because it's a book and not reality and elves dont really exist. On what IQ level does this even make sense.
>wow, you must think this was a witty retort on your part
No, it's a fact.
Changes happen in adaptations.
>Like, you say change is fine, and youre telling me that basically change didnt exist because it's a book and not reality
See above.
Though I do want to add that Tolkien did actually rewrite the Hobbit later to be more in line with the lord of the Rings. Want to know how much that harms either story? NOTHING!
>Changes happen in adaptations.
But you just told me there is no original thus there is no change.
Ok, changes happen in adaptations. And I asked you - why this change? I asked you
>why was it a problem to jest leave them as they were originally
what was wrong with leaving elves and dwarves and Numenor as they were described by Tolkien? Why change them to black?
>But you just told me there is no original thus there is no change.
It's a book.
>And I asked you - why this change?
Because they are actors and were casted to play a role.
>what was wrong with leaving elves and dwarves and Numenor as they were described by Tolkien?
If you wanted 100% accuracy, read the books.
>Why change them to black?
Because you like the actors.
This dude is actually brainwashed. As soon as he hits a wall, he just repeats like an NPC.
If you can't argue any of my points, then don't even bother. Can you proof that the actors were cast not out of some kind of meritocratic standard but just because they wanted more representation? If so, can you argue that's a bad thing or they are going to do a bad job?
Oh, and word of warning, if the words "jew", "White genocide" or "Replacement" are used at any point you automatically lose.
Why would I argue your points? You seem to deem it fit like your points are worth arguing. Would you debate a child who says "the sky is green! And water is made out of milkshake!"?
You just kind of move on in case of the child, placate him reasonably perhaps. In the case of an adult spewing bullshit like that, you call him a moron first and move on.
moron.
>Why would I argue your points?
Well, why would you even bother responding if you aren't going to argue any points I make? Outside of conceding defeat, which you are too cowardly to do.
>You seem to deem it fit like your points are worth arguing.
Oh no, I know it is. Big difference.
>Y-you lose!!
What a fricking moron.
Give him his gold star for 'winning' an argument with a chud on the internet, anon. If he collects 10, his wife's boyfriend will buy him another Nintendo Switch game.
If that was actually the case I would have more switch games than the biggest Nintendo fan in the world by now.
>they are actors and were casted to play a role.
>Why change them to black?
>Because you like the actors.
The character of Arondir in OP, played by Ismael Cruz Córdova..
In your opinion - do you thinkthey
a) decided to have a black elf, and then went about looking for an actor that fits that role visually.
or
b) decided to have an elf character with no appearance in mind; Ismael Cruz Córdova was the best actor for it, and thus the character is black.
Until proven otherwise, B.
Thank you. Have a nice day
>Until proven otherwise
Curious prefix to a simple question about opinions
>Curious prefix to a simple question about opinions
It's important because without evidence it's just guess work.
Again, either respond properly, concede, or frick off.
Woah man. Control your moron rage.
>without evidence it's just guess work.
yes, which is why i made sure to start it with
>In your opinion - do you think
cause you'd otherwise dodge the question with
>we dont know what, its guess work.
>Acting trumps appearances every time.
Meritocracy is a tool of white supremacy. Please do better.
>Meritocracy is a tool of white supremacy.
Incorrect. Meritocracy is the enemy of white supremacy.
>
>>if her acting is fine I don't care
i dont care if the orcs are flying around in attack helicopters as long as i can get excited for next product (You)
>I mean, if they want to have the orcs go full 40K, be my guest.
This would be fine. Wouldnt be Tolkien tho.
I mean, Tolkien always made it clear that the Orcs are a far more industrialized society than Humans or Elves and according to the Hobbit they invented gunpowder.
Like, all jokes aside, I do think it would be silly if the Orcs showed up with literal modern tech. But I do think it could hypothetically work if the story manages to establish a level of surrealism and mysticism the books sometimes go for.
Yes yes you don't care. Nothing matters. We get it. You're very cool about how little you care.
>Irrelevant, if her acting is fine I don't care about how she looks.
thats the entire point of contention though you moronic fricking moron cumstain
>
>>if her acting is fine I don't care
i dont care if the orcs are flying around in attack helicopters as long as i can get excited for next product
You're still not coming across as inherently dishonest, buddy.
>I'm tired of you people pretending this is the death of civilization
What?
>No, I just don't care.
Cool then you have no say in any of this. You don't care. Shut up. Be an apathetic b***h and leave the people with passion to decide on the things that matter.
Didn't read the rest of what you had to say because it's all meaningless. You don't care about anything anyway.
>I've accepted Skadi actually being a Scottish immortal, Quetzolacth being obsessed with lucha wrestling, and Zeus being a transforming mecha. A black man is not that different frankly.
homie u dumb
Yes. You are a subhuman, your opinion counts for nothing.
>Is that your excuse when Anne Boleyn is turned into a black woman
No, I just don't care.
>Or a Norse god is turned into a black man?
I've accepted Skadi actually being a Scottish immortal, Quetzolacth being obsessed with lucha wrestling, and Zeus being a transforming mecha. A black man is not that different frankly.
>Or when you have various black people walking around in medieval England in knight's armor?
Ever heard of acting and extras?
what? why do you talk like this?
You have to understand that when these people say "white culture" they don't mean actual white culture, which can and will survive everything capitalism can throw at it. They mean their own brand of nihilistic society destroying madness. The absence of culture, negative culture if you will.
>series/movie based on African culture/mythology. Only black are cast.
>series/movie based on Asian culture. Only Asians are cast.
>series/movie based on European culture. Blacks, Asians, aboriginals, Hindus, native Americans, Hawaians, Polynesians, and maybe some white people are cast.
Isn't it kind of racist to take over and dominate European themed material like this? Isn't it racist that from now on it's unacceptable for white people to appear on their own and they should be accompanied by black people at all times?
Does all this seem right to you?
Humans are monkeys and illogical to the point of coming across as cartoonish, news at 11.
>series/movie based on African culture/mythology. Only black are cast.
>series/movie based on Asian culture. Only Asians are cast.
Tell that to most of Hollywood history.
>Isn't it kind of racist to take over and dominate European themed material like this?
Every fantasy work in the last few decades that is actually somewhat good is far away from European nonsense as possible. It's a dead genre walking.
>B-But game of Thrones!
Basically not even actual fantasy.
>most of Hollywood history.
only israelites are cast?
It's not european culture
And there's no such thing as european culture
You know that Europe isn't a monolithic cultural block, right? And that we had influences from middle east and north Africa as well?
Are you being moronic on purpose?
Is that your excuse when Anne Boleyn is turned into a black woman? Or a Norse god is turned into a black man? Or when you have various black people walking around in medieval England in knight's armor?
Those are TV series and movies, they do not replace history.
????
So you're just spouting random shit. Got it.
North Africa isn't black Africa, you c**t. Sorry not sorry. Ethiopians aren't true blacks either. Again, sorry not sorry.
>Race is not real in the first place.
Well, no, race is very real since we have present facial bone structural differences. it is entirely biological/genetic.
>Segregation was only 60 some years ago...
Sigh...
lmao took only 60 years for israelites and Black folk to destroy the greatest country of the century
He's going to get all the cool action scenes (along with Gala)
Once he starts merking the orcs raiding nearby villages you will come around to him
"No"
"yes"
shortened Galadriel, yeah
that's not how you use spintrick
100% he's going to be an awful actor.
Who the frick is Gala? Galadriel?
Yes fellow fan, it's a totally organic nickname we came up with for the character withing the Tolkien™ Fandom™.
Saves a lot of symbols when engaging with the LOTR™ brand on Twitter, doesn't it?
I also helps the PoC who could be confused by a longer name they aren't used to seeing to spell it, isn't that great?
fr fr no cap on god
Shut the frick up, shill. Get fricking cancer and die.
WE ELFS NOW
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPP
https://www.publicmedievalist.com/tolkien-fans-black-people/
read chuds
Debunked years ago.
No it's not chuddie
https://medievalpoc.tumblr.com/post/171348534868/kingdom-come-deliverance-still-fails-to-deliver
>tumblr
commit suicide immediately.
please amerishart walmartian goygolem, teach me more about my own history, i must learn, i yearn for your cornsyrup knawledge, I MUST LEARN THE TRUTH, ABOUT THE ETERNAL NIGROS, I MUST LEARN THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY HERE ALL ALONG
People of color ARE incompetent, but outliers and exceptional cases will always exist, even then.
Sorry, the amount of stunned-eyed Jamaicans in my country is hilarious. Math and statistics outweigh personal feelings.
>People of color ARE incompetent
Based on what standards?
>People of color ARE incompetent
Most people are incompetent in general, you fricking moron. You are no different.
>Most people are incompetent in general, you fricking moron.
Race is not equivalent out of sheer convenience. Some are more/less competent than others, pound for pound. Oh well.
>Race is not equivalent out of sheer convenience.
Race is not real in the first place. Any attempt at categorize has and will fail.
It's a fact, deal with it.
Lol.
Dial8
This guy seems like a far right white nationalist
Not at all. That's a guy proud of his own culture, which happens to be white, and is defending it from being dominated and rewritten by American liberals.
He also seems like a pathetic b***h. No self respecting human being past the age of 16 would ever wear that cringe shirt
Made a game better than anything you will ever produce, moron.
Doesn't excuse him being a racist c**t
"We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. ... In a way, we were trying to make these films for him, not for ourselves." - Peter Jackson
WE WUZ KANGZ OF NUMENOR
She's not though and she never will be, her rightful throne gets stolen by an ebil white man
Cinemaphile is going to love this storyline
'And last of all the mounting wave... took to its bosom Tar-Míriel the Queen, fairer than silver or ivory or pearls." — The Silmarillion, Akallabêth
>using the same phrase every time a black person appear on "insert popular media"
You guys aren't only racists, you're also pathetically unoriginal and uncreative lmao
oy vey
Why are there Hobbits in the show? Didn't Hobbits only appear in the Third Age?
Entirely fan fiction
>Why are there Hobbits in the show?
Probably just for normies who might get weirded out if they didn't see a hobbit onscreen considering the previous movies
>Didn't Hobbits only appear in the Third Age?
Recorded since then, they would have existed but nothing is known about them
This show has very little in common with the stories that Tolkien actually told.
No, they were around earlier. They were just basically irrelevant to the point Gandalf was seen as a weirdo for caring about them.
>that gangsta style shooting
Little hint: In no universe will we ever know the actual viewer numbers. Amazon will say record breaking success even if 1 viewer. That's the way this works.
You're probably right (you are right)
Why are stinky, low-T, sheltered white men so fragile? Why do they act this way over entertainment?
N
So you're cool with an all white cast then since it's just entertainment?
Why are black people incapable of creating their own stories?
Because they love white stories too much and want to be a part of our culture.
See, white/Western culture is highly coveted, even in nations like China that hate the West.
Pfft this white homie be THINKING and shit LMAOOOO!
We do.
We do. But white liberals dont like it when we do.
they will make shitloads of money and all your seething plays right into it
they play all of you midwits like a fiddle
This show looks beautiful
And your shilling looks disgusting.
>facebook is full of chuds
wow
Actuall geeks like this show
check reddit
Society is healing