The ministry is a sham financed by rich old wizard families. That's why throughout most of the series Slytherins control everything and muggle lovers get to do menial labor and unimportant jobs far removed from positions of power.
It seemed like all spells can be reversed or healed, But that one is just an instant death spell that you can't do shit about. I mean the spell Harry casts on draco that cuts his body or something looked x1000 worse than it but Snape was easily able to heal him
I knew a glowie. He must have been a frickup because his job was living in a house in some shitty neighborhood taking care of some antennas and comms on the property. Shit wasnt even some cool spy shit the place is fricking conspicuous and he stood out in a nonwhite neighborhood.
could be worse, you could be an undercover CIA operative turned comic book writer
and then you get to act and pretend to be an ex CIA and full of remorse all the while ruining the 3 biggest characters
>Shit wasnt even some cool spy shit the place is fricking conspicuous and he stood out in a nonwhite neighborhood.
Heh my buddy has to monitor online forums for extremism. Not too exciting I guess but it pays the bills.
Aurors are just zogbots. Made even worse since Harry is wizard jesus he has carte blanche which would be a problem for anyone to have that much power but you know Harry would absolutely abuse it since hes used to doing whatever the frick he wants.
Pretty good breakdown but even to less of an ideological level Harry is a non-charecter
The best part of the whole series is in book 6 or 7 where Harry is confronted with the fact that all of these people have died because of him and he’s basically just an average dipshit.
A rare moment of clarity for a generally schlubby character.
But in much less words Rowling like many people aged 40+ is perpetually trapped in the “dream of the 90’s” post Cold War neoliberalism
They honest to go thought they’d reached the utopian end of history and to this day you still see that reflected in their worldview and their sadness in it all being lost. It’s hard to explain it to zoomers and young millennials but people really thought like 1997-2001 was just the dawning of a great age of endless peace and prosperity and boring generic left wing “tolerance”
Why are they shown to those who want to save the world as the heroes and to the villains as those who want to destroy it when in real life it is the other way around, although those who want to save it destroy it and those who want to destroy it save it?
The wizard world is moronic. Anyone can conjure anything at will. Why would there be inns? Why would there be economic activity and money at all?
If you read the books from what I can tel the wizard world is basically 50-100k people total and their entire society is run around the wizard government to keep them secret from muggles and to tamp down on “bad wizzards”. Aka those wizzards who actively say “let’s enslavethe inferior muggles and rule the planet”
Which they should, they could create a society ruled by wizzard kings that create a magical utopia from everyone including muggles.
Rowling is a woman and therefore not good at world building outside of a very small scale (ie a school)
>I’m like 80% sure they can conjur food but I haven’t read the books in decades so somebody please confirm
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Gamp%27s_Law_of_Elemental_Transfiguration >"Your mother can’t produce food out of thin air, no one can. Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp’s Law of Elemental Transfigura[tion]... It’s impossible to make good food out of nothing! You can Summon it if you know where it is, you can transform it, you can increase the quantity if you’ve already got some..."
Don’t get me wrong I think it’s best when magical powers have rules and limitations in fantasy but at least try to make the rules have an internal consistency
>you can be Jesus and just make more bread and fish if you already have some bread and fish >but no you can't make food out of nothing
Having trouble here.
Most wizards are really bad at magic. They go to wizard school for 5-7 years and in the end they know like 10 spells.
While you can conjure up almost anything in theory most wizards can only conjure up simple shit like water, fire or some well known object.
Most never figure out how to do any advanced magic. They just recite existing spells invented by smarter people long ago. They never figure out how to do wandless magic, silent magic, control wild magic or create new spells or potions.
People like Dumbledore or Voldemort are so far removed from regular wizards it's like they aren't even the same species.
Wizards can't do STEM. They have to devote all their education to learning magic. So they can't effectively rule anything for very long because they lack civic engineers.
Take your engineer autism and frick off. Engineers are the most self important clowns in the world. Wow you can do math and can calculate load and strength tell me more about how society should be run! /s
STEM tells us nothing about how things should be it’s just advanced understanding of the material interactions of our reality
Harry and Ron were barely C students who missed their last year. Wizard cops were the height of their abilities. Hermione had potential, but she seems to type to become a professor or something because she loves rules so much.
>most talented wizard of her generation >becomes a politician
Always thought this was the dumbest shit. She should have become a magic researcher or something like that.
I guess she only studied that hard because she wanted to get into a position of power and she never really gave a frick about magic?
Hermione was talented, but she was also a stickler for rules. Look at HBP when she gets pissed at Harry for changing the instructions. Bad mindset for a researcher, good for a politician.
Yeah it's moronic,like in Naruto where the most powerful ninja has an office job when he should continue to train, create new techniques and teach them to other good ninja ect...
Hermione is just good at studying but not really creative thought. When it comes to stuff that isn't purely book learning, like flying or DADA, she's competent but unimpressive. Even look at potions, when Harry had access to Snape's schoolboy notes he blew past her effortlessly. That's because Snape was actually a genius in that field and could look past what the book instructed and even improve on it. Hermione took what books said as fact. She's not cut out to really push any field forward with new ideas, because she has none. The most creative thing she did was try to end elf slavery, which actually seems like foreshadowing for a political career.
She's even not the best at studying amongst named characters. Percy and Bill Weasley, and maybe Barty Crouch Jr, all got 12 OWLs when she barely managed 10.
This is the real problem with politics in the west.
The power structure and elite are screaming to the sky to “just go back to how things were in 1995” while the insane modern epicurean left wants to take us down the black hole of nihilism and the fringe right out of reaction is advocating the wholesale destruction of liberalism as a governing ideology to its root and return to monarchical/dictatorial rule
That’s because the neoliberals don’t even fully understand what they are doing and what their policies do.
They carry on this libertarian stance on economics and social issues while maintaining a globally domineering foreign policy because they think the end of that process is 1995 when they were at peak power and success.
And as things go south they aren’t asking “wait is this our own ideology and policy being taken to its logical end?”
No, the see it as “we are falling backwards into tyranny! We are losing the dream of the 90’s !” We need MORE NEOLIBERALISM. We need MORE corporate power, we need more diversity! We need more gdp! We need more sexual freedom! That will fix it just like it fixed it before
And it becomes a self defeating drain circling myopia
To be fair to neolibs, this is what happens to every ideological movement. Communists and their abject denial that any of the implementations of their ideas were genunine are very salient examples of just this tendency.
Being a bureaucrat is the highest a non-upper-class can aspire for in Britain. It's really a fluke of history that they got entangled with India - another country completely defined by a class (caste) system.
That was a touch of realism from Rowling. You will be absorbed by the labor force sooner or later. Even the NEETs reading this. She was just trying to let her young readers/viewers know that.
I thought it was all building up for Harry to become Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. Him getting advanced training from Lupin in year 3, then him teaching Dumbledore's Army in year 5, and everything else he's gone through makes him obviously the most qualified person for the job. It would put an end to dark arts teacher curse storyline and most important it ties Harry's future back to Hogwarts which is what the heart of the franchise was all about.
Not a bad thought. Too bad Rowling is moronic and just wanted to rush something in. The entire series is whimsical contradictory writing carried by a naturally engaging and interesting universe.
don't the teachers live in the castle? harry wouldnt want to be away from his family unless you make ginny quidditch teacher or something
now that you mention it, did none of the teachers have children? would teacher's kids be thought by their parents or would they have to be sent to another school?
>now that you mention it, did none of the teachers have children?
McGonagall was a widow. That's it really. We don't know if any of professors had families it's never brought up. Rowling probably didn't give a shit because she would've released some info about their families by now knowing her. They're all just old and weird.
also ties in with Voldemort, who loved Hogwarts like Harry did and wanted the same job
speaking of DA, i was re-reading books 4&5 the other day and i found it strange that Harry was positioned in 5 as this DADA-wiz. in book 4 he learns all these jinxes together with Ron and Hermione as they assist with his training for the 3rd task TWT, if anything they ought to be just as qualified as he is
>teach
Agreed, I didn't get it back then and I don't get it now either.
The heart of the saga, as another anon said, is the comfiness of Hogwarts. It also made a lot of sense for Harry to become the DefenseADA teacher. And, romantically, to become a teacher and pass down the teachings of his predecessors (Lupin, Snape, Dumbledore) would have been a very mature thing for Harry to do. In the real world, the teaching job isn't as fulfilling (I'll probably become one) but in that fantasy universe it would have worked.
But Rowling is a moronic Karen or simply a stupid bong or something like OP was suggesting.
>teach
Agreed, I didn't get it back then and I don't get it now either.
The heart of the saga, as another anon said, is the comfiness of Hogwarts. It also made a lot of sense for Harry to become the DefenseADA teacher. And, romantically, to become a teacher and pass down the teachings of his predecessors (Lupin, Snape, Dumbledore) would have been a very mature thing for Harry to do. In the real world, the teaching job isn't as fulfilling (I'll probably become one) but in that fantasy universe it would have worked.
But Rowling is a moronic Karen or simply a stupid bong or something like OP was suggesting.
The poetry of going back to hogwarts makes sense but he has gets experience chasing around dark wizards in the last book so it isn't completely out of nowhere that he'd become an Auror I guess
Just have kids of your own bro, they'll instill that magic and childishness back into your life and stuff. Or you could do lots of drugs. Lots of drugs also works.
government bureaucrats >what did Rowling mean by this
it's the britbongs dream
all the minor aristocracy and well to do upper middle class use to go into state service, working for the home office or foreign office hoping someday to be recognized and be named to a major aristocratic title.
Shield and deflection spells are well within the even the weakest wizards capabilities. Charms that automatically activate also exist, so countering conventional weapons would be fairly trivial. In fact, someone like Voldemort could easily turn conventional weapons against their users.
This. Magic is actively used. They wouldn't be able to react to to conventional weapons. The vast majority would simply be shot to death and the very few outliers wouldn't be able to keep going on forever.
>find a guy angry at wizard society (which shouldn't be hard, it's a caste system, just get a guy with no powers like the janitor or a mudblood) >send him to the most populated places like the Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade >Have him take pictures of the sky (there are cameras in the wizarding world so it's possible) >find the place with the star >Bomb them out of the world
the frick they gonna do ? They won't even have time to take out their wands before the nuke will have exploded
they can violate physics to the point where the school probably isn't even in our reality. like the apartment that just grows out of another building with tons of people around not even noticing. non-magicals don't stand a snowball's chance in hell against wizards. heck, even a single wizard could probably conquer the world all on his own with his mind control powers and teleportation and dimension-hopping and immortality and so on
They wouldn't be able to do shit before a piece of lead flies through their skull.
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how are you going to put lead through their skull when you can't even see them because they've put a "lol muggles can't see me" spell on themselves and they drive around in an invisible lightspeed-fast shapeshifting bus? even just that bus fricks with reality so hard that he driver could probably drive the bus up to your apartment, in through the key hole, under the doorframe into your bathroom, and then step outside to kick you in the face while you're on the shitter, only to step back inside his bus and rive away. there's just fricking no way, dude. there's no chance.
automatically triggered spells exist, it would be trivial to make defensive ones to counter conventional weapons
they can violate physics to the point where the school probably isn't even in our reality. like the apartment that just grows out of another building with tons of people around not even noticing. non-magicals don't stand a snowball's chance in hell against wizards. heck, even a single wizard could probably conquer the world all on his own with his mind control powers and teleportation and dimension-hopping and immortality and so on
>source: my ass that thinks scaling up shit shown by a bazillion is logical
They wouldn't be able to do shit before a piece of lead flies through their skull.
Okay lets say there is a sucssful attack on wizards. If that attack doesn't kill every single wizard at once, its over. The wizards would concentrate all efforts on destroying all conventional weapons. Given that they have access to magic and are not limited by time and distance, the could easily do that.
>yes bro, a handful of wizards can destroy every conventional weapon because I say so!
You're fricking moronic lmao. Absolutely nothing in the entire series shows they would have this capability. They aren't some omnipotent beings. Just making any more advanced spells takes great effort, time and knowledge and even those are mostly underwhelming. Being able to teleport through chimnies and mess with reality won't amount to much when the vast vast majority of wizards don't even know how to do it, much less utilize it in a fricking combat role.
It's just disingenuous subhuman nonsense to claim wizards are effectively omnipotent beings that can do and react to everything.
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Wizards have access to mind reading, mind control, and time machines. Those three things alone would be enough to defeat conventional weapons. Let alone would could be accomplished through spells.
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No more time machines and nobody know how to make them anymore.
Mind reading and mind control can't be done a mass of people and doesn't work from whatever distance you want. Pretty fricking easy to combat it through various protocols.
wizards have been hiding for centuries because they were persecuted by the muggles, they lose against a sword so they can't do shit against modern weaponry
Proceed to walk into your house and slowly turn you wife and children inside out while you watch in horror wondering why this is happening.
It really is that simple.
Do they have like mana or anything? I dont remember anything like that. Whats stopping you from just magicking and enchanting at all times to create absolute chaos? Can the wands overheat? I feel like I remember the wands not being mandatory, its just a lot easier with wands.
Harry joining the ministry makes little sense considering he spent almost half his school career being persecuted by them, and they were the first to be subverted by Voldemort. Ron going into the Ministry at least makes sense because his dad and brother are both valuable ins he can use to land a decent job. Hermione though is way too smart to ever settle for bureaucrat pay.
Being a government stooge means he has to fight who his bureaucrat bosses tell him to fight. It doesn't matter what his job specifically is, ultimately he's just a tool of the corrupt, incompetent government edifice which was frequently a menace to him, personally.
Except now he's basically a mix between the Attorney General and an actual general and his buddies wife that's he's fricking on the side is the president.
So what point are you trying to make?
That a wizard could be killed by a sniper rifle if they had no idea they were being targeted?
what a uniquely wizard weakness that muggles are immune to
>That protego and expelliarmus won't work.
They only "won't work" if you establish terms of engagement that intentionally nerf the wizard >durr if a trained navy seal scopes up on a wizard from a mile away that means guns are better than magic
They reorganized their entire society to hide from the muggles at some point during the high middle ages. We only ever see them do hit and run attacks on unarmed civilians. We can therefor conclude that voldemort isn't meant to be able to solo NATO.
>work at the muggle device office and show interest in muggle world >don't give a try to a condom until after having 10 kids and forcing your family to live in poverty despite having a ministry job
what did he mean by this
>that one fanfiction that repeatedly had harry or some other character get struck by some testicle engorging spell that meant a girl had to apply some sort of healing paste to it constantly
they weren't even flimsy excuses to have a sex scene, it was the funniest stuff, especially the second or third time around
If a wizard can deflect a spell with the flick of their wand I think they could flick a bullet right back into your gun and through the back of your head. That's not even considering shield spells that would certainly block non magical projectiles.
>If a wizard can deflect a spell with the flick of their wand I think they could flick a bullet right back into your gun and through the back of your head.
With what fricking reaction speed? They can barely react to spells flying at soft air gun speeds at best.
In the last few books the bad guys literally take over the government and through it the wizarding world by mind controlling the important government figures. A war between muggles and wizards would end with wizards mind controlling all important muggle politicians and government figures, it wouldn't be a wands vs guns firefight.
More like all the good ones left that shithole several hundred years ago and made roots literally anywhere else. The only thing that is left in that hole are the descendants of people too ugly and too stupid to leave.
>caring about the politics of harry potter >too low IQ to understand this is an "and they lived happily ever after" ending for schoolchildren
supremely reddit
>become government bureaucrats
I never got these meme. Isn't an auror a dark wizard catcher. Seems pretty fun.
they're just magical jannies
Well, how much do they get paid?
They get magic money
The ministry is a sham financed by rich old wizard families. That's why throughout most of the series Slytherins control everything and muggle lovers get to do menial labor and unimportant jobs far removed from positions of power.
That's Ron's dad. He literally cleans up poop at one one point.
In the field of muggle studies someone has to compare the poo of muggle and wizard
“Dark wizard” is just another name for whomever/whatever the state fears because they don’t ideologically conform. Harry is jack boot.
>t. Voldecuck
Sure. But if you're into that it'd be fun.
The guys in the books seem to murder and torture for fun but ok
> spinning razor blades spell that spits fire and poison is perfectly alright
>spell that painlessly kills you is le bad
Open your eyes. You don’t need a divination degree to see a problem here.
The spell that painlessly kills you is only used to kill people and it only works if you have murderous intent.
nice headcanon
He's correct. I'm a Harry Potter expert and can confirm.
It seemed like all spells can be reversed or healed, But that one is just an instant death spell that you can't do shit about. I mean the spell Harry casts on draco that cuts his body or something looked x1000 worse than it but Snape was easily able to heal him
Can’t heal a dead guy. Some of those concussive spells could easily kill but it’s a children’s book so they don’t.
so an auror is basically a glowie??
Be a glowie is pretty fun I would imagine haha. My friend is one and does some pretty interesting stuff.
I knew a glowie. He must have been a frickup because his job was living in a house in some shitty neighborhood taking care of some antennas and comms on the property. Shit wasnt even some cool spy shit the place is fricking conspicuous and he stood out in a nonwhite neighborhood.
could be worse, you could be an undercover CIA operative turned comic book writer
and then you get to act and pretend to be an ex CIA and full of remorse all the while ruining the 3 biggest characters
>Shit wasnt even some cool spy shit the place is fricking conspicuous and he stood out in a nonwhite neighborhood.
Heh my buddy has to monitor online forums for extremism. Not too exciting I guess but it pays the bills.
They are just glorified wizard police for violent crimes.
No they would be like bounty hunters.
Aurors are just zogbots. Made even worse since Harry is wizard jesus he has carte blanche which would be a problem for anyone to have that much power but you know Harry would absolutely abuse it since hes used to doing whatever the frick he wants.
Being an FBI agent isn't fun.
>paid to b8 people on Cinemaphile
I'm already doing it for free. I'm basically an FBI janny
The british quintessencial dream
they all aged worse irl
Harry's son is insanely cute shota hot.
Isn't Harry a billionaire? Why would he work for the government?
He believes in communism
The houseelves likes being slaves. Many such cases.
One of the few things that Rowling did that were actually clever.
Dobby didn't
>Liberals are too weak-willed and petty to instigate REAL change
>t. commie writing an essay about why a children's book is bad
Pretty good breakdown but even to less of an ideological level Harry is a non-charecter
The best part of the whole series is in book 6 or 7 where Harry is confronted with the fact that all of these people have died because of him and he’s basically just an average dipshit.
A rare moment of clarity for a generally schlubby character.
But in much less words Rowling like many people aged 40+ is perpetually trapped in the “dream of the 90’s” post Cold War neoliberalism
They honest to go thought they’d reached the utopian end of history and to this day you still see that reflected in their worldview and their sadness in it all being lost. It’s hard to explain it to zoomers and young millennials but people really thought like 1997-2001 was just the dawning of a great age of endless peace and prosperity and boring generic left wing “tolerance”
holy shit what a homosexual. but I like Rowling and Harry Potter a lot more after reading that so I guess it's not all bad
how could like it more after reading that? you like that something so obvious wasn't addressed at all?
None of it needed addressing. It's a children's book and, what's more, that stuff is all the stuff people actually like. The fantasy world.
Why are they shown to those who want to save the world as the heroes and to the villains as those who want to destroy it when in real life it is the other way around, although those who want to save it destroy it and those who want to destroy it save it?
Society
You can be a hero, but NEVER challenge the Establishment.
What other jobs could they have gotten? Teacher? Cook? The wizarding world is very limited
it was written by a women, government might as well be god to them
The wizard world is moronic. Anyone can conjure anything at will. Why would there be inns? Why would there be economic activity and money at all?
If you read the books from what I can tel the wizard world is basically 50-100k people total and their entire society is run around the wizard government to keep them secret from muggles and to tamp down on “bad wizzards”. Aka those wizzards who actively say “let’s enslavethe inferior muggles and rule the planet”
Which they should, they could create a society ruled by wizzard kings that create a magical utopia from everyone including muggles.
Rowling is a woman and therefore not good at world building outside of a very small scale (ie a school)
>Anyone can conjure anything at will.
Except for food. So inns make absolute sense.
Just apparate to a chippy. If you are a scrub and cant do that conjure a fireplace and use wizard grubhub.
>they can conjure pillows, tents, blankets, clothing, swords etc
>not food
I’m like 80% sure they can conjur food but I haven’t read the books in decades so somebody please confirm
>I’m like 80% sure they can conjur food but I haven’t read the books in decades so somebody please confirm
https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Gamp%27s_Law_of_Elemental_Transfiguration
>"Your mother can’t produce food out of thin air, no one can. Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp’s Law of Elemental Transfigura[tion]... It’s impossible to make good food out of nothing! You can Summon it if you know where it is, you can transform it, you can increase the quantity if you’ve already got some..."
moronic
Don’t get me wrong I think it’s best when magical powers have rules and limitations in fantasy but at least try to make the rules have an internal consistency
>can Summon it if you know where it is
Just as good as conjuring.
>you can increase the quantity if you’ve already got some..."
Seems like this still makes food post-scarce.
>you can be Jesus and just make more bread and fish if you already have some bread and fish
>but no you can't make food out of nothing
Having trouble here.
Most wizards are really bad at magic. They go to wizard school for 5-7 years and in the end they know like 10 spells.
While you can conjure up almost anything in theory most wizards can only conjure up simple shit like water, fire or some well known object.
Most never figure out how to do any advanced magic. They just recite existing spells invented by smarter people long ago. They never figure out how to do wandless magic, silent magic, control wild magic or create new spells or potions.
People like Dumbledore or Voldemort are so far removed from regular wizards it's like they aren't even the same species.
I mean Windgardium Leviosa or whatever that shit is called can be done by children and generates infinite energy soooo
A talented mudblood wizard like Hermione could get rich by offering proxy wizarding services for untalented shits.
That's what most enchanted items are that you can buy as a wizard.
Yes but im talking about smaller one time things to keep you busy not taking on huge comissions like the invisibilty cloak or brooms.
Wizards can't do STEM. They have to devote all their education to learning magic. So they can't effectively rule anything for very long because they lack civic engineers.
You don’t need STEM if you have magic
Take your engineer autism and frick off. Engineers are the most self important clowns in the world. Wow you can do math and can calculate load and strength tell me more about how society should be run! /s
STEM tells us nothing about how things should be it’s just advanced understanding of the material interactions of our reality
> /s
go to website
she's english
Harry and Ron were barely C students who missed their last year. Wizard cops were the height of their abilities. Hermione had potential, but she seems to type to become a professor or something because she loves rules so much.
>but she seems to type to become a professor or something
She becomes Minister of Magic and cheats on Ron. Pretty sure she divorces him as well.
Lol honestly Ron deserved it.
Imagine Draco violently buttraping Ron.
>most talented wizard of her generation
>becomes a politician
Always thought this was the dumbest shit. She should have become a magic researcher or something like that.
I guess she only studied that hard because she wanted to get into a position of power and she never really gave a frick about magic?
Rowling is a hack.
Hermione was talented, but she was also a stickler for rules. Look at HBP when she gets pissed at Harry for changing the instructions. Bad mindset for a researcher, good for a politician.
Someone has to fight for minority rights.
Why? Minorities weren’t invited, they just showed up and started demanding gibs
Yeah it's moronic,like in Naruto where the most powerful ninja has an office job when he should continue to train, create new techniques and teach them to other good ninja ect...
Hermione is just good at studying but not really creative thought. When it comes to stuff that isn't purely book learning, like flying or DADA, she's competent but unimpressive. Even look at potions, when Harry had access to Snape's schoolboy notes he blew past her effortlessly. That's because Snape was actually a genius in that field and could look past what the book instructed and even improve on it. Hermione took what books said as fact. She's not cut out to really push any field forward with new ideas, because she has none. The most creative thing she did was try to end elf slavery, which actually seems like foreshadowing for a political career.
She's even not the best at studying amongst named characters. Percy and Bill Weasley, and maybe Barty Crouch Jr, all got 12 OWLs when she barely managed 10.
Powerful
Everything about Rowling makes sense once you know she is a Blairite.
This is the real problem with politics in the west.
The power structure and elite are screaming to the sky to “just go back to how things were in 1995” while the insane modern epicurean left wants to take us down the black hole of nihilism and the fringe right out of reaction is advocating the wholesale destruction of liberalism as a governing ideology to its root and return to monarchical/dictatorial rule
Blair is the number 1 reason why Britain doesn't look like it did in 1995
That’s because the neoliberals don’t even fully understand what they are doing and what their policies do.
They carry on this libertarian stance on economics and social issues while maintaining a globally domineering foreign policy because they think the end of that process is 1995 when they were at peak power and success.
And as things go south they aren’t asking “wait is this our own ideology and policy being taken to its logical end?”
No, the see it as “we are falling backwards into tyranny! We are losing the dream of the 90’s !” We need MORE NEOLIBERALISM. We need MORE corporate power, we need more diversity! We need more gdp! We need more sexual freedom! That will fix it just like it fixed it before
And it becomes a self defeating drain circling myopia
To be fair to neolibs, this is what happens to every ideological movement. Communists and their abject denial that any of the implementations of their ideas were genunine are very salient examples of just this tendency.
Yes it is a process that occurred to all ruling ideologies/classes which is why they are forced every century or so to reform/evolve or be replaced
Is exceedingly rare for a governing system to last for more than 100 years
Being a bureaucrat is the highest a non-upper-class can aspire for in Britain. It's really a fluke of history that they got entangled with India - another country completely defined by a class (caste) system.
That was a touch of realism from Rowling. You will be absorbed by the labor force sooner or later. Even the NEETs reading this. She was just trying to let her young readers/viewers know that.
Gotta blackpill the kids early
I thought it was all building up for Harry to become Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. Him getting advanced training from Lupin in year 3, then him teaching Dumbledore's Army in year 5, and everything else he's gone through makes him obviously the most qualified person for the job. It would put an end to dark arts teacher curse storyline and most important it ties Harry's future back to Hogwarts which is what the heart of the franchise was all about.
Not a bad thought. Too bad Rowling is moronic and just wanted to rush something in. The entire series is whimsical contradictory writing carried by a naturally engaging and interesting universe.
don't the teachers live in the castle? harry wouldnt want to be away from his family unless you make ginny quidditch teacher or something
now that you mention it, did none of the teachers have children? would teacher's kids be thought by their parents or would they have to be sent to another school?
>now that you mention it, did none of the teachers have children?
McGonagall was a widow. That's it really. We don't know if any of professors had families it's never brought up. Rowling probably didn't give a shit because she would've released some info about their families by now knowing her. They're all just old and weird.
Poetry.
also ties in with Voldemort, who loved Hogwarts like Harry did and wanted the same job
speaking of DA, i was re-reading books 4&5 the other day and i found it strange that Harry was positioned in 5 as this DADA-wiz. in book 4 he learns all these jinxes together with Ron and Hermione as they assist with his training for the 3rd task TWT, if anything they ought to be just as qualified as he is
he is elected leader because he's the only one who met voldy, and he can also make le epic patronus
>teach
Agreed, I didn't get it back then and I don't get it now either.
The heart of the saga, as another anon said, is the comfiness of Hogwarts. It also made a lot of sense for Harry to become the DefenseADA teacher. And, romantically, to become a teacher and pass down the teachings of his predecessors (Lupin, Snape, Dumbledore) would have been a very mature thing for Harry to do. In the real world, the teaching job isn't as fulfilling (I'll probably become one) but in that fantasy universe it would have worked.
But Rowling is a moronic Karen or simply a stupid bong or something like OP was suggesting.
The poetry of going back to hogwarts makes sense but he has gets experience chasing around dark wizards in the last book so it isn't completely out of nowhere that he'd become an Auror I guess
That's bri'ish life. Be glad Harry Potter wasn't in Germany.
That joy and wonder of the world only happen when you're a child, when you grow up it ends
>That joy and wonder of the world only happen when you're a child, when you grow up it ends
skill issue
Just have kids of your own bro, they'll instill that magic and childishness back into your life and stuff. Or you could do lots of drugs. Lots of drugs also works.
Only if you're poor and/or working 40 hours per week or more.
dude, just smoke some weed and watch a documentary about space, lmao
government bureaucrats
>what did Rowling mean by this
it's the britbongs dream
all the minor aristocracy and well to do upper middle class use to go into state service, working for the home office or foreign office hoping someday to be recognized and be named to a major aristocratic title.
>literally save the world
Voldemort would have gotten fricking razed with bullets the moment he started invading the mugglers lmao.
>Voldemort would have gotten fricking razed with bullets the moment he started invading the mugglers lmao.
>t. midwit
The frick is he and his wizard pals going to do against conventional weapons lmao? The frick can they do against a jet fighter spraying them? Nothing.
The Harry power word has no rules and no cap on power creep so they might as well all be dr Manhattan
muggletum repello
Shield and deflection spells are well within the even the weakest wizards capabilities. Charms that automatically activate also exist, so countering conventional weapons would be fairly trivial. In fact, someone like Voldemort could easily turn conventional weapons against their users.
>PROT-ACK
The books make a point of calling out how the vast majority of wizards are too incompetent to do a shield charm.
This. Magic is actively used. They wouldn't be able to react to to conventional weapons. The vast majority would simply be shot to death and the very few outliers wouldn't be able to keep going on forever.
>find a guy angry at wizard society (which shouldn't be hard, it's a caste system, just get a guy with no powers like the janitor or a mudblood)
>send him to the most populated places like the Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade
>Have him take pictures of the sky (there are cameras in the wizarding world so it's possible)
>find the place with the star
>Bomb them out of the world
the frick they gonna do ? They won't even have time to take out their wands before the nuke will have exploded
automatically triggered spells exist, it would be trivial to make defensive ones to counter conventional weapons
>source: my ass that thinks scaling up shit shown by a bazillion is logical
they can violate physics to the point where the school probably isn't even in our reality. like the apartment that just grows out of another building with tons of people around not even noticing. non-magicals don't stand a snowball's chance in hell against wizards. heck, even a single wizard could probably conquer the world all on his own with his mind control powers and teleportation and dimension-hopping and immortality and so on
They wouldn't be able to do shit before a piece of lead flies through their skull.
how are you going to put lead through their skull when you can't even see them because they've put a "lol muggles can't see me" spell on themselves and they drive around in an invisible lightspeed-fast shapeshifting bus? even just that bus fricks with reality so hard that he driver could probably drive the bus up to your apartment, in through the key hole, under the doorframe into your bathroom, and then step outside to kick you in the face while you're on the shitter, only to step back inside his bus and rive away. there's just fricking no way, dude. there's no chance.
Okay lets say there is a sucssful attack on wizards. If that attack doesn't kill every single wizard at once, its over. The wizards would concentrate all efforts on destroying all conventional weapons. Given that they have access to magic and are not limited by time and distance, the could easily do that.
>yes bro, a handful of wizards can destroy every conventional weapon because I say so!
You're fricking moronic lmao. Absolutely nothing in the entire series shows they would have this capability. They aren't some omnipotent beings. Just making any more advanced spells takes great effort, time and knowledge and even those are mostly underwhelming. Being able to teleport through chimnies and mess with reality won't amount to much when the vast vast majority of wizards don't even know how to do it, much less utilize it in a fricking combat role.
It's just disingenuous subhuman nonsense to claim wizards are effectively omnipotent beings that can do and react to everything.
Wizards have access to mind reading, mind control, and time machines. Those three things alone would be enough to defeat conventional weapons. Let alone would could be accomplished through spells.
No more time machines and nobody know how to make them anymore.
Mind reading and mind control can't be done a mass of people and doesn't work from whatever distance you want. Pretty fricking easy to combat it through various protocols.
wizards have been hiding for centuries because they were persecuted by the muggles, they lose against a sword so they can't do shit against modern weaponry
>Voldy and co use Notice Me Not charms.
Proceed to walk into your house and slowly turn you wife and children inside out while you watch in horror wondering why this is happening.
It really is that simple.
Do they have like mana or anything? I dont remember anything like that. Whats stopping you from just magicking and enchanting at all times to create absolute chaos? Can the wands overheat? I feel like I remember the wands not being mandatory, its just a lot easier with wands.
Literally the plot of One Piece.
DEH
Harry joining the ministry makes little sense considering he spent almost half his school career being persecuted by them, and they were the first to be subverted by Voldemort. Ron going into the Ministry at least makes sense because his dad and brother are both valuable ins he can use to land a decent job. Hermione though is way too smart to ever settle for bureaucrat pay.
Harry is a billionaire and capable combat wizard. His ministry job is fighting people...he aint in it for the money
Being a government stooge means he has to fight who his bureaucrat bosses tell him to fight. It doesn't matter what his job specifically is, ultimately he's just a tool of the corrupt, incompetent government edifice which was frequently a menace to him, personally.
Except now he's basically a mix between the Attorney General and an actual general and his buddies wife that's he's fricking on the side is the president.
A fat norf with a hunting rifle is more powerful than any wizard
>protego
>expelliarmus
So what point are you trying to make?
That a wizard could be killed by a sniper rifle if they had no idea they were being targeted?
what a uniquely wizard weakness that muggles are immune to
That protego and expelliarmus won't work.
>That protego and expelliarmus won't work.
They only "won't work" if you establish terms of engagement that intentionally nerf the wizard
>durr if a trained navy seal scopes up on a wizard from a mile away that means guns are better than magic
Teleporting is literally the wizard's driving license.
That's all midwits can do in England
Ironically, government bureaucrats ARE the kind of people who have thrown Rowling under the BUS in the name of 'trans rights'.
Don't underestimate a job with a pension
They reorganized their entire society to hide from the muggles at some point during the high middle ages. We only ever see them do hit and run attacks on unarmed civilians. We can therefor conclude that voldemort isn't meant to be able to solo NATO.
Funny that Emma Watson is half the age she's supposed to be in that digitally aged version yet already looks twice as old
>work at the muggle device office and show interest in muggle world
>don't give a try to a condom until after having 10 kids and forcing your family to live in poverty despite having a ministry job
what did he mean by this
>>work at the muggle device office and show interest in muggle world
homie have you seen a car he rides?
>that one fanfiction that repeatedly had harry or some other character get struck by some testicle engorging spell that meant a girl had to apply some sort of healing paste to it constantly
they weren't even flimsy excuses to have a sex scene, it was the funniest stuff, especially the second or third time around
They look better than they do now
That this is a piece of fiction made for moronic manchildren and womanchildren but not troonychildren
>AVADA KED-ACK
If a wizard can deflect a spell with the flick of their wand I think they could flick a bullet right back into your gun and through the back of your head. That's not even considering shield spells that would certainly block non magical projectiles.
>If a wizard can deflect a spell with the flick of their wand I think they could flick a bullet right back into your gun and through the back of your head.
With what fricking reaction speed? They can barely react to spells flying at soft air gun speeds at best.
In the last few books the bad guys literally take over the government and through it the wizarding world by mind controlling the important government figures. A war between muggles and wizards would end with wizards mind controlling all important muggle politicians and government figures, it wouldn't be a wands vs guns firefight.
The highest honor a bong can aspire is to be a good dog of the king
More like all the good ones left that shithole several hundred years ago and made roots literally anywhere else. The only thing that is left in that hole are the descendants of people too ugly and too stupid to leave.
Where lmao? Only turbo puritarian religious nutcases went to America and only criminals went to Australia.
So like I said the better brits left hundreds of years ago and made roots in better lands, leaving the filth of that cesspit behind.
I wanted Cho's yellow dicky so bad when I was 11.
>caring about the politics of harry potter
>too low IQ to understand this is an "and they lived happily ever after" ending for schoolchildren
supremely reddit
That's the highest aspiration for a Western woman
No different than guys who are decorated war vets overseas then return home and get a cushy office gig.
Oh you beat the Death Eaters, good for you, but now the rent's due and Voldemort stories don't pay the fricking bills, Harry.