after Endgame, Marvel lost all appeal and became some stupid soulless wankery like Star Trek. They're just crapping out 100 new shows that nobody fricking cares about
it's hard for anyone to push the "you'll still watch it" when the reality is that almost nobody will watch it
Marvel was soulless since Captain America. That’s the last one I watched before realizing it was just the hitting all the same precise neurons the last movie hit. manchild.
>It kinda worked for 10+ years.
Not really. It started off as Easter Eggs but they organically created an overlapping story about the stones and built up to the final confrontation with Thanos. The problem was they completely abandoned that model in favour of throwing shit at a wall to see what would stick.
They never had a vision for their product.
That's why they quickly shifted from making actual costumes to generic cheap Halloween costumes that can be replaced with a CGI costume in post based on the focus groups feedback.
That's because they only vision anyone is worried about lately is NEED MORE CONTENT FOR THE STREAMING MACHINE SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT TO PICK FROM EVEN IF IT'S ALL COMPLETELY THROWN TOGETHER SLAPDASH SHIT WITH NO SUBSTANCE
I uniroincally believe it is bc the back catalog is 95% white and completely reveals their hypocrisy. So they threw together mutt casting to blur the lines of 50 years of Hollywood prejudice casting
for most people marvel peaked and stop being interesting with the infinity war shit. after everyone faded away and we got some four hour slog of a conclusion, everyone has moved on. lol at marvel thinking we needed a hawkeye follow up, complete with a women replacement nobody cares about. we got so many shows that werent hits that the brand is no longer even relevant. replacement cap, replacement widow, replacement hawkeye, replacement captain marvels even though she only has one movie, replacement hulk with she-hulk, replacement daredevil with echo... its tiring. none of those shows were asked for and marvel were so high on their own farts that they oversaturated their own genre. should have kept it more special and not given us straight out duds like chinaman and the autistic gay gods' movies.
The whole point of it was to get people to sign up for Disney Plus. They don't care about keeping it special, they just want that monthly recurring revenue. It was always shit anyway.
No one has figured out the economic side of Streaming television. It worked at Netflix for a while, but only because they were exclusively the only ones providing it. In this competitive environment everyone bleeds money trying to gain scale and be the King of Streaming.
The plan was for HilDawg to win in 2016 and an fall female Avengers to assemble shortly after. But then they realized your heroes need to be likable and have personalities beyond “Girlboss with superpowers”, so now they’re struggling to find a coherent narrative.
I'll back you on everything you wrote. But Hawkeye was the most inoffensive least woke legacy project that they did. I'd even label it as a Christmas Special. It was comfy, had action, and Hailee.
Frick. I just remembered they had Echo in it for no reason. Nevermind.
no, it was fine. but really should have been a movie at about 120 mins long. dragging it out, having yet ANOTHER girl replacement of a male character, and the shit about echo made it suffer a lot. it made us suffer too
>no, it was fine.
Thanks for saying that.
Compared to even Moon Knight, a character I like, Hawkeye was heads and shoulders above all the other shows only by simply being average and non offensive.
You know what's funny about these new characters and arguably B+ List actors? You won't see female Hawkeye and Moon Knight until Avengers and Secret Wars is going to reboot the universe.
Thing is those are fun, now everything has to be some sort of statement. Everything about Marvel is no longer fun. It is all about making political statements.
Everyone is starting to tune it all out because it is the same message every time.
Nobody asked for Shang-Chi tho. Nobody asked for Eternals. I could go on, but my point is, only non-whites care about those characters. You and your race literally cursed and destroyed Marvel.
But hey, at least you got represented right? I fricking hate you. Go make your own capeshit and stop stealing from the white man.
>only non-whites care about those characters
Depends on what you mean by non-whites. Asians don't care about shang chi because they can already watch much better wuxia made by HK/Taiwan/Mainland.
>have billions running on the ip >hire the utmost morons who start filming a show without knowing how it ends >NOW gain the wisdom to do shit that fricking Twin Peaks popularized 30 years ago
I swear to heaven, how the frick do those morons get their jobs and how can I get in?
1. Be black, an outspoken vocal minority, (trans, gay, commie) and/or a woman
2. Have no genuine life experience with anything meaningful, let alone the job you’re applying for.
3. Have nothing original or interesting to say and just parrot things you heard in college.
4. Project your own deep seated mental issues and hatred of everyone that isn’t you into the script instead of getting therapy.
Embracing who you truly are! We’ve all got a little monster inside all of us, telling us who to be, we just gotta unlock it and set it free! The teacher, Miss Perryweather, asks our hero to stay after class when everyone else has left.
After discussing his failing grades and wondering if everything’s alright, he/she senses something amiss. So, he/she does what any good teacher would do! She shows off their “little monster” after class, ripping our hero’s “worldview” wide open, and begins Cory (or should I say Cora!) on a magical journey of self discovery, exploring each others bodies and challenging standard conventions about gender and identity!
It's so realistic in terms of the books those types of teachers are always showing off that I wouldn't doubt this is a real piece of media in some SanFran classroom.
1. Be black, an outspoken vocal minority, (trans, gay, commie) and/or a woman
2. Have no genuine life experience with anything meaningful, let alone the job you’re applying for.
3. Have nothing original or interesting to say and just parrot things you heard in college.
4. Project your own deep seated mental issues and hatred of everyone that isn’t you into the script instead of getting therapy.
Embracing who you truly are! We’ve all got a little monster inside all of us, telling us who to be, we just gotta unlock it and set it free! The teacher, Miss Perryweather, asks our hero to stay after class when everyone else has left.
After discussing his failing grades and wondering if everything’s alright, he/she senses something amiss. So, he/she does what any good teacher would do! She shows off their “little monster” after class, ripping our hero’s “worldview” wide open, and begins Cory (or should I say Cora!) on a magical journey of self discovery, exploring each others bodies and challenging standard conventions about gender and identity!
My pronouns? Slay/Queen!
>hmm how can I make this random thread be about trannies hmm not enough troony discussion on this board hmm
How moronic do you actually have to be to “REEEE” at the only quality posts in the entire thread because you don’t like the particular subject matter. 99% of posts that mention trannies are complete cancer but this isn’t one of them you massive idiot
yes, work your way up to the top of the chain like the simple minded individual you are. don't for once consider the individual animators and writers who actually contribute to the film, and not just wave their hands and make money move around. why even post such an ignorant reply? even if you're baiting, you just look moronic.
Embracing who you truly are! We’ve all got a little monster inside all of us, telling us who to be, we just gotta unlock it and set it free! The teacher, Miss Perryweather, asks our hero to stay after class when everyone else has left.
After discussing his failing grades and wondering if everything’s alright, he/she senses something amiss. So, he/she does what any good teacher would do! She shows off their “little monster” after class, ripping our hero’s “worldview” wide open, and begins Cory (or should I say Cora!) on a magical journey of self discovery, exploring each others bodies and challenging standard conventions about gender and identity!
My pronouns? Slay/Queen!
How did you manage to create these characters? They look exactly like modern pixar characters, for a moment I thought it was real.
Embracing who you truly are! We’ve all got a little monster inside all of us, telling us who to be, we just gotta unlock it and set it free! The teacher, Miss Perryweather, asks our hero to stay after class when everyone else has left.
After discussing his failing grades and wondering if everything’s alright, he/she senses something amiss. So, he/she does what any good teacher would do! She shows off their “little monster” after class, ripping our hero’s “worldview” wide open, and begins Cory (or should I say Cora!) on a magical journey of self discovery, exploring each others bodies and challenging standard conventions about gender and identity!
>Joss Whedon plotted the entire Infinity Saga >Feige admitted the Iron Man 1 formula that Favreau created was adopted by every movie after >absolutely zero setup for anything beyond Phase 3 within the first three phases >everything after Phase 3 has been unmitigated dog shit >they're scrapping partially shot series and starting from scratch >they also just realized that they have to put forth the effort required to shoot tv shows in their efforts to shoot tv shows
Kevin Feige is literally Stan Lee in that he's a fraud who took credit for the good work and creativity of others while being propped up as the mastermind of Marvel so that the world perceives the brand as being comprehensible despite actually being a fricking imbecile and the brand being a dump truck.
It’s obvious they’re going for a hard reset sooner rather than later. Not just “Here’s a newer, better Iron Man!” But “Let’s start from scratch with a brand new original story for everyone”.
They're rebooting for X-Men, which they're waiting for Fox era contracts to lapse on. Secret Wars is going to be the catalyst for the reboot. Fantastic Four is planned to survive the reboot event, and they're keeping the door open for anything else they feel still has money in its banana stand, but largely the entire point is to do the MCU as they always wanted to make which means bringing back Iron Man, Cap, etc. It's also going to permit them to go back to casting unknowns for roles to save money.
X-Men and FF + return of MCU legacy characters + world and story reboot + much cheaper cast contracts is actually a winning formula.
the only winning formula is castin people that looks like the original X-Men, if they can't get that shit right because of muh diversity, it's over for them.
it’s already over, they cannot get it right. the culture simply won’t permit it. it’s not only going to be a massive downgrade, it won’t even create negative buzz, or any kind. just ugly blobs dressed up like classic characters.
>it's known that Age of Ultron was butchered by Feige and other execs and forced to fail >this marked the turning point for continual insincerity with shitty jokes instead of meaningful character development and consequences >people still call this "Whedon writing" despite the fact that Whedon hasn't written for marvel in forever and nearly all the problems with it now are clear bastardizations of his style
>he's a fraud who took credit for the good work and creativity of others
The Marvel Bullpen and The Merry Marvel Marching Squad and all that other cultish bullshit that that old israelite came up with were just as responsible for Marvel's popularity as anything the artists did, if not more. It's very trendy and reddit to downplay Stan Lieber's indispensability in Marvel's success.
>Shows will now have proper showrunners that write pilots & show bibles
Please spoon-feed me on what this means. Is this why most of the shows felt like long movies chopped up into pieces?
will now have proper showrunners that write pilots & show bibles >Please spoon-feed me on what this means.
Instead of just hiring some dumb c**ts who outright make a show, they're going to get writers to put forth a first script so they can judge what the project is going to be before they have more aimless She-Hulk series on their hands.
They're also going to require the writers to adhere to hard and firm world rules and maintain a consistency with themselves and the larger world they occupy, which is done by keeping a "bible" or a compendium of the canon which can be easily referenced.
Has Marvel had an issue with canon, before? I think the mentioning of a show bible is all fluff. You're making 6 episodes of She-Hulk, not fricking Season 5 of Sopranos.
Having watched Loki s2e1, I honestly think referencing old shit/canon is one of Marvel's problems. They spent half the episode just talking about the events of Season 1. And I still don't know or care who Miss Minutes is. Point is, if your shit is moronic, why write even write it down in a book.
Charlie Cox is pushing 40, an older, middle aged Daredevil that rarely dresses up anymore because he can't jump from buildings and shit like he could ten years ago would have worked.
>"let's make Daredevil but focus on all the best bits of the show" >"NO we HAVE to be able to shove in two badly choreographed fight scenes every episode it's the LAW"
>Why don't they just make shows that aren't shit?
in order to do that they would need to go back to hiring on merit instead of identity and removing the weird leftist morality rules for scripts, which bob has made it clear he will not do.
What's funny is, the biggest problem the MCU has is that it's woke. If they refuse to fix that, their movies will still suck no matter how they're made.
Not even trying to inflammatory here, anon, but outside of the one ep I saw Robby Reyes GR it was pretty rough. I know only giving a show 5 eps is considered not enough nowadays, but I was bored to tears.
I hope that Peltz boots Iger in the most humiliating fashion possible and then Iger's replacement fires the entirety of Marvel and Lucasfilm. They can use that to reset the cultures of those studios, which would be difficult with the old guard around.
Outside of a handful of carefully vetted people, everyone should have to wait five years before they're considered for rehire. That's enough time for a new culture to take hold. Maybe Ike can come back to help, given that it sounds like he was the main reason that the MCU resisted wokeshit for as long as it did.
Frickin' pipe dream in current year. The pendulum is def swinging back the other way as far as the genpop is concerned, but I have a feeling this shit is going to get worse before getting any better.
There's a 80% chance that Iger gets told to leave. Even people who used to idolize him are mocking him now.
It's just a question of whether he successfully appoints one of his sycophants and "voluntarily" leaves "with his integrity intact" or whether he's removed by Peltz. Keep in mind that he felt threatened enough by Peltz last time to give him a bunch of concessions, and that was back when the media was still sucking Iger's dick.
I hope it happens. Seeing bomb after bomb and reading about how much cash they're hemorrhaging makes me question how the frick their investors haven't rained fire and brimstone down on them.
That’s exactly what used to happen with superhero movies.
They were made until they got ran into the dirt, then rebooted and the cycle began anew. The cinematic universe model has utterly killed this being a possibility, since now they can’t reboot one hero in a vacuum
Is the success of Avengers 2012 the pinpoint of when cinema died? I attributed it to the demise of DCEU rushing their version. But it seems to have ruined Disney too. And no other studios are doing shit that isnt paramount and Tom cruise
Uniroincally a better decision then multiverse. Like if you did this for a movie or two, who gives a shit. If its trash you cast another, multiverse now shes stuck in it
>Hey, my son's a big fan of Iron Man. I'd like the latest issue. >Sure, here you go.
Why did American comics die?! It must be because all stories that could be told had been told. And superhero fatigue. And culture overload. And the price of paper. And the move to online shopping. And a dying interest in the comic book format. >Manga and superhero movies were doing amazingly well while American comics were dy-
NOOOOOO
I agree here, I wouldve simply ended the timeline of RDJ bc having mutants in it retroactively has it make no sense. Theyre rebooting anyway eventually so clearly this was the better play. Should have retold Thanos with everyone if they wanted to play it safe
Recently, before I got a new external hard drive, I was running out of space. So I started watching shit that had been collecting dust for ages so if I didn't like it I could just delete it. One of those was the Hawkeye series. I couldn't believe how laughably DISABLED it was.
>some awful PoC wxmyn villain who cannot act but was deaf and one legged >Hawkeye is going deaf in it and requires a hearing aid >even the stray dog they take in is missing a fricking eye
JFC how many CEI points did they get for this unwatchable nonsense...
Don't care that it was shit too. And that should have been enough then, but they had to go completely over the top with it, with the mute one legged native, who I'm sure at some point would have been made the ACTUAL real victim thanks to evil yt men but I didn't get that far
I stop caring about superheros the second they start fighting aliens and shit. I loved Iron Man 1 because he was just fighting the Taliban, I love Batman because he just fights bad people and the occasional monster freak like Poison Ivy or Man Bat. But when you get Avengers movies where the bad guy is a giant purple alien with alien minions I don't care anymore.
The original arc leading to Endgame was planned as a framework, but not the individual movies within it. There were a lot of missteps, the shenanigans with Edgar Wright, movies that did not impress, the original arc didn't go all that smoothly.
This newest arc seems to know where it wants to end, but not how to get there in a way that's engaging. It is really missing RDjr and Evans, the soul and heart of the original MCU. Then Boseman croaks and their best substitute is gone on them abruptly.
It works for Star Wars
It does?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
frick off Disney shill
they are just out there filming shit with no structure, flying by the seat of their ass
with one of the biggest IP's on the planet
fricking lol
marvel tv don't have big ip's the have shit ip's
They saw someone posting about morons watching it anyway and took it to heart. It kinda worked for 10+ years.
What happened to all those posters anyways? Not a lot of “you’ll still watch it” posting now.
after Endgame, Marvel lost all appeal and became some stupid soulless wankery like Star Trek. They're just crapping out 100 new shows that nobody fricking cares about
it's hard for anyone to push the "you'll still watch it" when the reality is that almost nobody will watch it
Marvel was soulless since Captain America. That’s the last one I watched before realizing it was just the hitting all the same precise neurons the last movie hit. manchild.
>It kinda worked for 10+ years.
Not really. It started off as Easter Eggs but they organically created an overlapping story about the stones and built up to the final confrontation with Thanos. The problem was they completely abandoned that model in favour of throwing shit at a wall to see what would stick.
Did it with the largest acquisition in movie ip too
They will need it with a 4 billion investment
They never had a vision for their product.
That's why they quickly shifted from making actual costumes to generic cheap Halloween costumes that can be replaced with a CGI costume in post based on the focus groups feedback.
That's because they only vision anyone is worried about lately is NEED MORE CONTENT FOR THE STREAMING MACHINE SO IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT TO PICK FROM EVEN IF IT'S ALL COMPLETELY THROWN TOGETHER SLAPDASH SHIT WITH NO SUBSTANCE
I uniroincally believe it is bc the back catalog is 95% white and completely reveals their hypocrisy. So they threw together mutt casting to blur the lines of 50 years of Hollywood prejudice casting
I'm sorry you have the brain worms
t. Schlomo
for most people marvel peaked and stop being interesting with the infinity war shit. after everyone faded away and we got some four hour slog of a conclusion, everyone has moved on. lol at marvel thinking we needed a hawkeye follow up, complete with a women replacement nobody cares about. we got so many shows that werent hits that the brand is no longer even relevant. replacement cap, replacement widow, replacement hawkeye, replacement captain marvels even though she only has one movie, replacement hulk with she-hulk, replacement daredevil with echo... its tiring. none of those shows were asked for and marvel were so high on their own farts that they oversaturated their own genre. should have kept it more special and not given us straight out duds like chinaman and the autistic gay gods' movies.
The whole point of it was to get people to sign up for Disney Plus. They don't care about keeping it special, they just want that monthly recurring revenue. It was always shit anyway.
No one has figured out the economic side of Streaming television. It worked at Netflix for a while, but only because they were exclusively the only ones providing it. In this competitive environment everyone bleeds money trying to gain scale and be the King of Streaming.
The plan was for HilDawg to win in 2016 and an fall female Avengers to assemble shortly after. But then they realized your heroes need to be likable and have personalities beyond “Girlboss with superpowers”, so now they’re struggling to find a coherent narrative.
>even daredevil has a replacement
wtf
I'll back you on everything you wrote. But Hawkeye was the most inoffensive least woke legacy project that they did. I'd even label it as a Christmas Special. It was comfy, had action, and Hailee.
Frick. I just remembered they had Echo in it for no reason. Nevermind.
no, it was fine. but really should have been a movie at about 120 mins long. dragging it out, having yet ANOTHER girl replacement of a male character, and the shit about echo made it suffer a lot. it made us suffer too
>no, it was fine.
Thanks for saying that.
Compared to even Moon Knight, a character I like, Hawkeye was heads and shoulders above all the other shows only by simply being average and non offensive.
You know what's funny about these new characters and arguably B+ List actors? You won't see female Hawkeye and Moon Knight until Avengers and Secret Wars is going to reboot the universe.
it was hilarious how after Infinty War everyone basically peaced out
>and not given us straight out duds like chinaman
Shang-Chi would've been fire if it was similar to the 70s Master of Kung Fu comics
Thing is those are fun, now everything has to be some sort of statement. Everything about Marvel is no longer fun. It is all about making political statements.
Everyone is starting to tune it all out because it is the same message every time.
Nobody asked for Shang-Chi tho. Nobody asked for Eternals. I could go on, but my point is, only non-whites care about those characters. You and your race literally cursed and destroyed Marvel.
But hey, at least you got represented right? I fricking hate you. Go make your own capeshit and stop stealing from the white man.
do you think Black folk made that shit? dont blame the golem, blame their holders
>only non-whites care about those characters
Depends on what you mean by non-whites. Asians don't care about shang chi because they can already watch much better wuxia made by HK/Taiwan/Mainland.
There was never anything special about these homosexual movies you fricking worm.
Imagine having 6-episodes to tell a story with no showrunner. Why bother? It's not like exec production cares.
>have billions running on the ip
>hire the utmost morons who start filming a show without knowing how it ends
>NOW gain the wisdom to do shit that fricking Twin Peaks popularized 30 years ago
I swear to heaven, how the frick do those morons get their jobs and how can I get in?
1. Be black, an outspoken vocal minority, (trans, gay, commie) and/or a woman
2. Have no genuine life experience with anything meaningful, let alone the job you’re applying for.
3. Have nothing original or interesting to say and just parrot things you heard in college.
4. Project your own deep seated mental issues and hatred of everyone that isn’t you into the script instead of getting therapy.
Anon, what's the plot of that movie?
Embracing who you truly are! We’ve all got a little monster inside all of us, telling us who to be, we just gotta unlock it and set it free! The teacher, Miss Perryweather, asks our hero to stay after class when everyone else has left.
After discussing his failing grades and wondering if everything’s alright, he/she senses something amiss. So, he/she does what any good teacher would do! She shows off their “little monster” after class, ripping our hero’s “worldview” wide open, and begins Cory (or should I say Cora!) on a magical journey of self discovery, exploring each others bodies and challenging standard conventions about gender and identity!
My pronouns? Slay/Queen!
Holy frick im dying anon
The worst part of this is that it’s chillingly plausible for Disney to make this.
Too real. You nailed it
>ripping our hero’s “worldview” right open
Fricking Christ I’m worried we’re already approaching this reality and it’s haunting
anon STOP! Dont give them such plausible ideas!
This is actually believable and I fear a troon from Disney is reading this and writing it down for a pitch
Include me in the screencap and eventually discovery when anon sues Disney for stealing his plot idea.
Posts like these are the gaygiest shit ever, anyone who is new-ish like these guys are and lurking, do not do this. It makes you look like a cancergay
Shut the frick up homosexual. Maybe make a post people like instead of whining about when others enjoy something that you didn’t post
Okay here we go!
Hurrrrr put me in the screenshot
Put me in the screencap
Put me in the screencap
It's so realistic in terms of the books those types of teachers are always showing off that I wouldn't doubt this is a real piece of media in some SanFran classroom.
Put me in the screencap
don't put this anon in the screencap. Here's a rare Pepe. there's more where that came from
that was great but I'm probably gonna have nightmares tonight
I would've given my left nut just like Stephs calf muscles at that time.
You work for the mouse!
Prophetic and plausible.
I don't get it
You're all laughing but soon this will become a reality.
>ripping hero’s worldview wide open
Jesus christ
Will the the writer's self insert be the teacher or the kid?
🙂
>hmm how can I make this random thread be about trannies hmm not enough troony discussion on this board hmm
How moronic do you actually have to be to “REEEE” at the only quality posts in the entire thread because you don’t like the particular subject matter. 99% of posts that mention trannies are complete cancer but this isn’t one of them you massive idiot
>Just stop noticing things okay!
>samegayging this hard
Don’t even post the gay ass screenshot of the (you) “proof,” we’ve been over this and it means nothing
more than one person here thinks your moronic anon.
>your
Pottery
Don't waste your time. These types don't even know how to check that.
I didn't know Kevin Fiege was black and trans
yes, work your way up to the top of the chain like the simple minded individual you are. don't for once consider the individual animators and writers who actually contribute to the film, and not just wave their hands and make money move around. why even post such an ignorant reply? even if you're baiting, you just look moronic.
Most of the writers look like Adam Conover or Sam Seder.
I do know what he is, though.
How did you manage to create these characters? They look exactly like modern pixar characters, for a moment I thought it was real.
goddamn
This is too fricking good.
why did you just repost the OP
I wanted to focus on the "they didn't write the fricking shows" part.
I feel like while the first change is good, the second one is gonna be really hard to make work.
>Joss Whedon plotted the entire Infinity Saga
>Feige admitted the Iron Man 1 formula that Favreau created was adopted by every movie after
>absolutely zero setup for anything beyond Phase 3 within the first three phases
>everything after Phase 3 has been unmitigated dog shit
>they're scrapping partially shot series and starting from scratch
>they also just realized that they have to put forth the effort required to shoot tv shows in their efforts to shoot tv shows
Kevin Feige is literally Stan Lee in that he's a fraud who took credit for the good work and creativity of others while being propped up as the mastermind of Marvel so that the world perceives the brand as being comprehensible despite actually being a fricking imbecile and the brand being a dump truck.
It’s obvious they’re going for a hard reset sooner rather than later. Not just “Here’s a newer, better Iron Man!” But “Let’s start from scratch with a brand new original story for everyone”.
That's what all this multiverse shit will lead to.
They're rebooting for X-Men, which they're waiting for Fox era contracts to lapse on. Secret Wars is going to be the catalyst for the reboot. Fantastic Four is planned to survive the reboot event, and they're keeping the door open for anything else they feel still has money in its banana stand, but largely the entire point is to do the MCU as they always wanted to make which means bringing back Iron Man, Cap, etc. It's also going to permit them to go back to casting unknowns for roles to save money.
X-Men and FF + return of MCU legacy characters + world and story reboot + much cheaper cast contracts is actually a winning formula.
the only winning formula is castin people that looks like the original X-Men, if they can't get that shit right because of muh diversity, it's over for them.
it’s already over, they cannot get it right. the culture simply won’t permit it. it’s not only going to be a massive downgrade, it won’t even create negative buzz, or any kind. just ugly blobs dressed up like classic characters.
>Fantastic Four
how many times do people have to tell them. The Fantastic Four are shit and nobody fricking cares about them.
I think anon is wrong, the upcoming Fantastic Four won't survive the reboot. The rumored cast, isn't worth keeping.
DC, Gunn rather, is finding out that if you don't do a 100% clean reboot, fans will not be on your side.
all the new versions will be played by fat/ugly/racially ambiguous actors though. it’s gonna fail.
>it's known that Age of Ultron was butchered by Feige and other execs and forced to fail
>this marked the turning point for continual insincerity with shitty jokes instead of meaningful character development and consequences
>people still call this "Whedon writing" despite the fact that Whedon hasn't written for marvel in forever and nearly all the problems with it now are clear bastardizations of his style
>he's a fraud who took credit for the good work and creativity of others
The Marvel Bullpen and The Merry Marvel Marching Squad and all that other cultish bullshit that that old israelite came up with were just as responsible for Marvel's popularity as anything the artists did, if not more. It's very trendy and reddit to downplay Stan Lieber's indispensability in Marvel's success.
>Shows will now have proper showrunners that write pilots & show bibles
Please spoon-feed me on what this means. Is this why most of the shows felt like long movies chopped up into pieces?
will now have proper showrunners that write pilots & show bibles
>Please spoon-feed me on what this means.
Instead of just hiring some dumb c**ts who outright make a show, they're going to get writers to put forth a first script so they can judge what the project is going to be before they have more aimless She-Hulk series on their hands.
They're also going to require the writers to adhere to hard and firm world rules and maintain a consistency with themselves and the larger world they occupy, which is done by keeping a "bible" or a compendium of the canon which can be easily referenced.
Has Marvel had an issue with canon, before? I think the mentioning of a show bible is all fluff. You're making 6 episodes of She-Hulk, not fricking Season 5 of Sopranos.
Having watched Loki s2e1, I honestly think referencing old shit/canon is one of Marvel's problems. They spent half the episode just talking about the events of Season 1. And I still don't know or care who Miss Minutes is. Point is, if your shit is moronic, why write even write it down in a book.
>we will now try coming up with a plan
whoa
>plan to make changes
>will pretend to try
nice to have confirmation
yeah, my thoughts exactly. They would have to get rid of their worthless diversity hires to make any of this happen. Never will. Frick the mouse
kek
Charlie Cox is pushing 40, an older, middle aged Daredevil that rarely dresses up anymore because he can't jump from buildings and shit like he could ten years ago would have worked.
NO fricking hell this isn't what people want from super hero shows. This thinking is how Indiana Jones 5 was made
Well, that's what stuntmen are for.
A movie set in the "Old Man" universe with Jackman, Renner and Cox would be kino.
regardless, they'll have him take a case of a mutant who's power is being a troony.
brilliant
who is making these awful decisions, and why
>"let's make Daredevil but focus on all the best bits of the show"
>"NO we HAVE to be able to shove in two badly choreographed fight scenes every episode it's the LAW"
can't wait for daredevil to get told off by le sassy black prosecutor
>Can't make money
>Decide to spend more money
Why don't they just make shows that aren't shit?
>Why don't they just make shows that aren't shit?
in order to do that they would need to go back to hiring on merit instead of identity and removing the weird leftist morality rules for scripts, which bob has made it clear he will not do.
What's funny is, the biggest problem the MCU has is that it's woke. If they refuse to fix that, their movies will still suck no matter how they're made.
Do Americans really have bibles set up at every show? What moronic shit is this? Do they read the bible during filming?
They read the bible on set while 9/11 happens
Still upset at how they basically ignored Agents of Shield, even while it was their longestt running show
Not even trying to inflammatory here, anon, but outside of the one ep I saw Robby Reyes GR it was pretty rough. I know only giving a show 5 eps is considered not enough nowadays, but I was bored to tears.
Same
Until they bring back hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits capeshit is dead to me
Idk, most miniseries don't have showrunners on other channels either.
I swear any moron from here would be able to run this shit better, they'd even make Star Wars profitable again.
yeah, that's the problem. Everyone was complaining that Ms. Marvel and She Hulk didn't have show bibles.
Remember when they forgot half of Loki's powers including his super strength?
season 2 is complete shit I take it.
>could've had a show about Loki going on adventures as the god of mischief causing trouble for everyone
>no, lets make him into a office drone at some boring timepolice shit and turn it into a crime drama procedural
damn, the limited series was my favourite thing about this shit.
I hope that Peltz boots Iger in the most humiliating fashion possible and then Iger's replacement fires the entirety of Marvel and Lucasfilm. They can use that to reset the cultures of those studios, which would be difficult with the old guard around.
Outside of a handful of carefully vetted people, everyone should have to wait five years before they're considered for rehire. That's enough time for a new culture to take hold. Maybe Ike can come back to help, given that it sounds like he was the main reason that the MCU resisted wokeshit for as long as it did.
Frickin' pipe dream in current year. The pendulum is def swinging back the other way as far as the genpop is concerned, but I have a feeling this shit is going to get worse before getting any better.
"the pendulum" is not swinging back. it never swings back. there is no pendulum, only the eternal march of Progress toward oblivion.
Maybe you're right.
There's a 80% chance that Iger gets told to leave. Even people who used to idolize him are mocking him now.
It's just a question of whether he successfully appoints one of his sycophants and "voluntarily" leaves "with his integrity intact" or whether he's removed by Peltz. Keep in mind that he felt threatened enough by Peltz last time to give him a bunch of concessions, and that was back when the media was still sucking Iger's dick.
I hope it happens. Seeing bomb after bomb and reading about how much cash they're hemorrhaging makes me question how the frick their investors haven't rained fire and brimstone down on them.
>Dex in a proper Bullseye costume never ever
We were robbed
>They didn't have showrunners
But why? Money?
Hot take- Iron Man should have been serialized like James Bond with new actors taking the mantle.
That’s exactly what used to happen with superhero movies.
They were made until they got ran into the dirt, then rebooted and the cycle began anew. The cinematic universe model has utterly killed this being a possibility, since now they can’t reboot one hero in a vacuum
Is the success of Avengers 2012 the pinpoint of when cinema died? I attributed it to the demise of DCEU rushing their version. But it seems to have ruined Disney too. And no other studios are doing shit that isnt paramount and Tom cruise
>Hot take- Iron Man should have been serialized like James Bond with new actors taking the mantle.
you're in luck
Uniroincally a better decision then multiverse. Like if you did this for a movie or two, who gives a shit. If its trash you cast another, multiverse now shes stuck in it
>Hey, my son's a big fan of Iron Man. I'd like the latest issue.
>Sure, here you go.
Why did American comics die?! It must be because all stories that could be told had been told. And superhero fatigue. And culture overload. And the price of paper. And the move to online shopping. And a dying interest in the comic book format.
>Manga and superhero movies were doing amazingly well while American comics were dy-
NOOOOOO
Avengers should have disbanded and they should have pivoted towards Fantastic Four/X-Men a lot sooner.
I agree here, I wouldve simply ended the timeline of RDJ bc having mutants in it retroactively has it make no sense. Theyre rebooting anyway eventually so clearly this was the better play. Should have retold Thanos with everyone if they wanted to play it safe
Recently, before I got a new external hard drive, I was running out of space. So I started watching shit that had been collecting dust for ages so if I didn't like it I could just delete it. One of those was the Hawkeye series. I couldn't believe how laughably DISABLED it was.
>some awful PoC wxmyn villain who cannot act but was deaf and one legged
>Hawkeye is going deaf in it and requires a hearing aid
>even the stray dog they take in is missing a fricking eye
JFC how many CEI points did they get for this unwatchable nonsense...
the dog and the hearing loss were from the comic
Don't care that it was shit too. And that should have been enough then, but they had to go completely over the top with it, with the mute one legged native, who I'm sure at some point would have been made the ACTUAL real victim thanks to evil yt men but I didn't get that far
I don't watch any of this shit but isn't Hawkeye the one where the lead actor got in that accident IRL?
lol
lmao
yep. but he was already losing his looks and getting old
I don't know what it means by serialized tv vs limited series. Do they just mean stuff with more seasons, e.g. 15 seasons of Mandolorian? (please no)
I stop caring about superheros the second they start fighting aliens and shit. I loved Iron Man 1 because he was just fighting the Taliban, I love Batman because he just fights bad people and the occasional monster freak like Poison Ivy or Man Bat. But when you get Avengers movies where the bad guy is a giant purple alien with alien minions I don't care anymore.
Enjoy another decade of Marvel domination.
I just need more delicious Tatiana feet
>internal criticism
that's the nicest way anyone has ever written "chewed out for being complete morons"
imagine caring about and/or watching marvel, the most corporate globohomosexual american franchise in the world.
>shows will now have proper show runners instead of the joke showrunners we have be employing for the past 5 years
Wasn't one of the main selling points of the MCU that they had everything all planned out? How did this happen?
The original arc leading to Endgame was planned as a framework, but not the individual movies within it. There were a lot of missteps, the shenanigans with Edgar Wright, movies that did not impress, the original arc didn't go all that smoothly.
This newest arc seems to know where it wants to end, but not how to get there in a way that's engaging. It is really missing RDjr and Evans, the soul and heart of the original MCU. Then Boseman croaks and their best substitute is gone on them abruptly.