Studios aren't extending any writer's contracts, they're waiting out until their contract ends then hire a non union writers.
LMAO UNION WRITERS ARE GETTING FRICKED
Studios aren't extending any writer's contracts, they're waiting out until their contract ends then hire a non union writers.
nmp
Good. They’ve been dragging films down for years and demanded a bigger piece of the pie for their efforts
you people are fricking moronic, this article is just talking about overall deals, and all it is saying is that one single studio--Universal--is letting their deals continue and havent yet renewed any of them. It's literally a nothing burger, you people are so desperate to hate writers its insane.
stop consuming misinformation, the current deal states that if a show has 6 or less episodes, then there needs to be a minimum 3 writers in the writer's room, goes up to 4 for 7-8 episodes, then 9-12 goes up to 8. There is an exception for shows written entirely by one person (like Yellowstone, White Lotus, Chernobyl) where they do not have to hire additional writers.
Why are you so proud of being moronic? one google search could have answered your question instead you just make up phantoms to get mad at like a complete idiot
How many Marvel shows have you worked on?
autistic anger detected
>you people are so desperate to hate writers its insane.
Writers should be beaten to death and fed to dogs though. Objectively, no emotions.
>the current deal states that if a show has 6 or less episodes, then there needs to be a minimum 3 writers in the writer's room, goes up to 4 for 7-8 episodes, then 9-12 goes up to 8
Why though?
to artificially create jobs
There are too many shitty writers and the union needs to provide for them.
I think the point is that studios will HAVE to have writing staff room so that Netflix may no longer skip the entire having writing department part of making shows, which happened frequently because Netflix consistently relied on hiring writers on even less than freelance basis. The poor quality of scripts in recent years doesn't come from quality of writing (only), but from lack of writing being done at all. It just doesn't work out like that, writers literally can't just shit out one version of script and that's that, whereas that's how Netflix thinks script writing goes.
Here's a twitter thread of a writer of Spin City describing Netflix's avoiding writing process practices
https://twitter.com/krudell/status/1682098835240394752
ok but you don't need eight writers for 12 episodes of TV
If the writers were worried about quality they would ask for editors, not writers.
>ok but you don't need eight writers for 12 episodes of TV
depends on the show
This post really got the chinless wonders seething.
Chinless wonders write TV scripts and seethe about systemic oppression.
Chinless wonders become emotionally invested in intra-hollyisraelite conflicts because they have autism and literally nothing going on.
>Chinless wonders have autism and literally nothing going on.
Congrats. You just described actors KEK
What happens if the Coen brothers want to write a show? Are they forced to hire a writer to make 3 in the writer's room?
Why not? Some BIPOC representation would result in a more well-rounded and accessible product
Weak bait.
It isn't bait anon it's just a joke, nobody's meant to get mad at it
A showrunner can write the entire show if they choose to, but just ignore that part since no one actually fricking reads anything and just gets mad over headlines.
Like you’re ignoring how nobody said the brothers would be show runners
>then 9-12 goes up to 8
>8 writters for a standard 10 episodes series
WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING THIS
Please point out where he post any sort of defense instead of explaining what actually happened to you illiterate morons.
>hehe its not 16 writters you fake news fact checked puting shill, ITS ACTUALLY 8 WRITERS FOR A 9 EPISODES TV SHOW
have a nice day seriously. There shouldnt be any minimum imposed. If the show needs 50 writers so be it, if it needs 3 so be it too.
They're Putin shills.
We're at war against Russia right now and the whole KGB apparatus decided to destroy our trust in solid institutions like Hollywood. Remember covid-19, folks? We only went through the hard times of the pandemic because of the shows and movies created by the writers you're antagonizing now.
>destroy our trust in solid institutions like Hollywood
>Hollywood constantly spouts Russian propaganda
Thank you Putler
>He wasted his time during the Pandemic watching goyslop
Couldn't be me, I spent it hiking while tripping on enough acid to fund a CIA psyop for a year
Fricked around and found out
You’re literally spreading misinformation, it goes up to 6 but the show runner counts as one so it’s really only 5.
Page 24 https://www.wgacontract2023.org/wgacontract/files/memorandum-of-agreement-for-the-2023-wga-theatrical-and-television-basic-agreement.pdf
>one google search
>he still uses google
kek ngmi
this is a certified seethe moment
yes it is. good job identification anon.
post truth chuds, are gonna chud. Always have always will.
Don't try to educate this board. We don't need another subreddit. Ignorance and a desire to hate is what makes Cinemaphile comfy. And I say this as one of the writers they detest.
>why are poltards raiding /tv acting so moronic?
you answered your own question, friend.
Aren't they demanding there be 16 writers on every show or some moronation shit? Frick writers
good. i hate corporations but i hate writers more.
Frick em!
nice
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t all writers required to join the union as soon as they’re hired or one of their screenplays gets purchased?
These companies have teamS of lawyers. It takes no time at all to draft entirely new hiring contracts.
Why hire those worthless hacks? Just use AI
They literally can't because of the new MBA they agreed to.
The writers can use them if they wanted to according to the new agreement
Non-union writers can save the industry but is it possible for this to happen? Hollywood behaves like a mafia
here's my idea for a slasher:
someone goes around killing women only. when they are found by police, their faces have been altered so they arent recognizable by friends
or relatives. some girl is taking pictures of herself at home to post online when the killer strikes. she manages to take a picture of the
killer and pic related is what they look like. (inb4 why didnt they just delete the pic? well you can say the pic uploaded to an online
drive, unknown to the killer) cops think the killer is wearing a mask. eventually it turns out that it isnt a mask, but the killers actual
face. also revealed is that the killer is a female plastic surgeon. her face disfigured by plastic surgery to make the perfect face.
This sounds like the plot to Through Dead Eyes minus the psychic blind lady and the killer using a mask.
SIMPSONS DID IT!
SIMPSONS DID IT!
Non-union members are unhireable within Hollywood. The union will tell its members to not work with you, and they will threaten other production staff to refuse to work with you or else the union will smite them down.
>misinformation
real
such a soi redditor buzzword
Finally am not on the union anon will read my script
Both are based
makes sense if they are just following the more predatory model from other business, in my shithole country is the norm to get a contract of only a couple of months/a year maximum and then if they still want you after that, they give you a new contract, all that so you don't get more benefits over time, nor a raise and they only pay you the least legal amount after getting fired, if not even forcing you and threatening you to sign your renouncement
Maybe you should get a real job instead of this unsustainable gig work.
you're replying to a third world slave
it's not possible, they all are like that here, the worst nightmares from r/antiwork are the norm here
>US union shows actually have to be written by committee
How horrifying
itt chuds cope about losing the strikes and make up an imaginary victory they don't understand
imagine working for nbc AND believing it's a real job so much that you strike
uncanny
>live in dystopian shithole where an average house costs one million dollars
>blame your employer instead of the people running the dystopian shithole
>blame your employer instead of the people running the dystopian shithole
Hard to do when the writers not only constantly vote for those people, but actively run propaganda operations for them.
Who is behind way too many people living in one place?
le border openers
>Le immogration
Urbanization has nothing to do with borders, everything to do with concentration of capital
> Society shifts from industrial economy to service economy
> Capitalism incentivises expedited services and vertical integration
> Thus more service jobs
> Thus more people to take said service jobs, who as customers drive growth, increasing the profits of other service jobs
> Repeat the cycle
Macroeconomics 101
>increase demand for something
>price increases
economics 101
>Illegals all work in construction
>Building new homes
>Supply goes up
>Price goes down
Econ 101.
>Illegals all work in construction
Why lie?
Well the male ones. The female ones clean the houses.
>all my screenplay ideas are being stolen by Mexicans
Why does Cinemaphile hate unions so much?
your daughter on the left
unionized israeli writer propagandists on the right
that's why
Sure, because the multibillion corporate owners they are striking against aren’t moneygrubbing israelites at all
I'm ok with unions enforcing minimum pay salaries so people don't get scammed AND don't undercut themselves.
I'm not ok with unions enforcing companies to hire trash people that just increases a budget for no net gain on the final product. Because if you cave to that request there's no reason not to enforce the same thing for every other union
>we need to move this 10 pieces of props, better hire 10 workers and each carries one!
That's what they want
Overwhelmingly communist Black folk.
Also writing is not a job, it's a hobby and these scumbags were allowed to work during Covid.
My personal experience is that union can drag the average salary for specialised jobs down and a lot of them are just managerial parasites, especially in really big companies.
What is your profession, sir?
90% of jobs today are hobbies
>tfw no hobby job
Because majority of people here are either unemployed or millionaires on a temporary minimum wage job and unions are le evil because libs and big corporations good because le good
Why do right wingers simp for corporations so hard?
Standing back and laughing while woke Hollywood implodes is not simping for corporations, moron. I'm just waiting until generative AI is good enough that I can make my own feature-length films from the comfort of my home. But at least the behavior of the studios is rational. These delusional writers are making all of these absurd demands despite having absolutely no leverage.
Writers are getting paid more, but a lot of they are going to lose their jobs. Studios now only have to hire 2-5 writers per show depending on how many episodes there are. Half the people on this image will lose their job now.
>these same people will complain about the cost of housing
>Half the people on this image will lose their job now.
good, they are activists anyway
moron. If they could hire non-union writers there would've been no problem with production during the strike.
Damn, Cinemaphile just can't stop being BTFO'd.
There going to have a tough time making shows without union crews and actors and teamster drivers and ….
I hope NO ONE wins, not the studio israelites and certainly not these union Black folk. They don't deserve anything. The only acceptable "win" is that everybody loses, hard.
Modern media isn't worth saving. I hope it all crashes.
>The new component of the contract makes an exception for solo-writer shows, such as “The White Lotus” or “Big Little Lies” in which all episodes are written by a single writer. In those cases, the writer’s initial deal with the studio, network or streamer must call for the writer to work as a solo act from the start. Or as described by the guild in its summary of deal highlights, the minimum staff levels are in force “unless a single writer is engaged to write all episodes.”
Actually, genuinely curious how this deal would work out for something like JMS's Babylon 5. Babylon 5's specific point of appeal is that after getting screwed over by executives over and over again (something that will be repeated at Marvel), he just said frick it and wrote an entire show almost by himself, which was Babylon 5. But obviously it's fricking impossible to write 5 seasons of a TV series by yourself and out of 110 episode he managed to write 92. So how those 18 episode would be accounted for by this new deal if Babylon 5 was being made today?
>So how those 18 episode would be accounted for by this new deal if Babylon 5 was being made today?
Under the new contract if he wants extra writers around for a 22 episode season, he needs to hire at least 6 writers and 3 have to be writer-producers.
That's honestly ridiculous, but on the flipside, not as ridiculous as writing 5 seasons of a show by yourself.
Nothing could be better for hollwood and the entire medium of film than the current crop of writers to lose their jobs. Honestly the general quality of writing in movies/tv has been so low that I just assume everyone with a writing job right now is mentally disabled. Or a woman.
https://deadline.com/2023/09/universal-studio-group-overall-deals-not-extended-wga-strike-nbcuniversal-1235560367/
https://web.archive.org/web/20231001071021/https://deadline.com/2023/09/universal-studio-group-overall-deals-not-extended-wga-strike-nbcuniversal-1235560367/
- Universal Studio Group has reinstated writer-producers' overall deals after the WGA strike but has not extended their terms.
- This decision impacts writers who had their deals suspended for the entire five-month duration of the strike, potentially leading to significant financial losses.
- Unlike Universal Studio Group, most other studios and streamers are making extension decisions on a case-by-case basis.
- Warner Bros TV, for instance, extended some showrunners but did not extend a significant portion of suspended deals, particularly those ending in 2025 and beyond.
- Sony's reinstatement letters did not contain extension/no extension clauses, leaving the possibility of future conversations on the topic.
- Streamers have generally extended their overall deals, while traditional studios have also extended some deals but have been selective.
- Studios and streamers have not granted extensions to deals they do not plan to renew or those that expired during the strike or are expiring soon.
- Unlike the 2007-2008 WGA strike, there have been no known overall or first-look deal terminations during the recent strike.