Yea, the non-American and non-white incels are always trying to stir up shit with their weaponized insecurity, they get online like they’re fighting some PR war while their real life just goes.
This anon gets it. A real civil war would be rural militias nationwide occupying patches of land while the federal government maintained control of urban centers.
Without any actionable borders and rebels relying on asymmetrical warfare, any movement not small enough to be wiped in a few weeks would create a chaotic, bloody, endless exchange that would have no winners. Rebels would resort to whack a mole sieges, trying to target multiple urban centers to spread government forces thin.
National supply of tendies would grind to a total and irreversible halt.
it would be total chaos in urban areas as supply shortages hit. the ape outs would be cat 5 easily. I wouldn't want to be a white liberal in that situation.
crackers for dinner
Uhh yeah supply shortages for sure, what happens when there's no trucks to supply the fricking dollar generals keeping half the grandmas in this country alive?
you have no idea how rural communities even work. people actually help each other, so yeah I wouldn't bet on large urban areas to survive any crisis
4 months ago
Anonymous
>you have no idea how rural communities even work
It works like this: kids go to hang out at the walmart parking lot to buy fent and show off their squatted truck. Then they go beat up their elderly neighbors for money to purchase more fent. After a few years of that they die
4 months ago
Anonymous
Largely this, while their parents/grandparents sell their land to Big Agricorp or some Chinese Shitcoin Farm.
it would be total chaos in urban areas as supply shortages hit. the ape outs would be cat 5 easily. I wouldn't want to be a white liberal in that situation.
crackers for dinner
Ports are urban
Railyards are urban.
Cope all you want, cities can sustain themselves. They will import food from friendly nations and transport it freely to other cities as landlocked and infrastructure-free ruralcucks starve. >w-w-we'll just sabotage the railways
kek. look up "world war 2" and start there. It's trivial to defend swathes of rail lines.
4 months ago
Anonymous
people don't seem to understand cities are were the political power is. if your city is blue and you are a country boy you'll be literally killed or leave before that happens.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>. It's trivial to defend swathes of rail lines.
I work as a railroader. It's actually trivial to completely frick up a rail line.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yet during the biggest war in recorded history, with nearly nonexistent surveillance technology, the trains continued to run.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah because there were no insurgent partisans operating in North America, genius.
Your property has been confiscated and is being held in trust by the Army Council, the provisional government of the Republic.
You can pick east or west. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Also, we're gonna confiscate your precious phone as a final frick-(You).
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Yet during the biggest war in recorded history, with nearly nonexistent surveillance technology, the trains continued to run.
this is worst take i've seen so far in this thread?
supply lines will always be attacked see what's happening in gaza imagine that is your city.
so yeah the chinks might give you some rice or some shit in israelite york or l.a. for a price....
but you will still be under siege from rural area's and nothing at all will come in from any of the rural area's like food, water, medicine
but you live in a city where the proliferation of guns is illegal so the only people with guns are now the people who illegally obtained them before the civil war started aka gang members and other criminals
also remember >defund the police
yeah they have guns as well
these entities have considerably more power over you now so they will probably interact as a filter to who gains access to food from foreign entities coming into the ports
so that means you join their gang or suck their dick or your sister does it in order to get access to rice
you didn't think about that did you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>you didn't think about that did you.
He didn't think about anything other than being a performative homosexual on Cinemaphile
That's why he hasn't replied.
Free Mr. Bond.
4 months ago
Anonymous
why are you following me around asio iywim haha
4 months ago
Anonymous
>asio iywim >following me around
QRD? Genuinely confused.
4 months ago
Anonymous
i don't think you are confused or is some nat soc day where everyone got the word out to say >Free Mr. Bond
???
4 months ago
Anonymous
>asio iywim
Can you type that out?
4 months ago
Anonymous
i will when you first confirm why you are saying free mr. bond?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Do not know who he is? He's the best rapper in history.
He's the racist Weird Al.
He's currently serving 10 years in Austria for his genuis music.
4 months ago
Anonymous
ok it's just on another board not associated with what we are talking about someone responded with a similar thing to me >Free Mr. Bond
asio = The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation
they are like the secret police of australia not equivalent to the fbi or dhs or nsa
imagine if the u.s. had a secret police like the Stasi in east germany that is what asio pretty much are they spy on australian citizens domestically
normies think asio is the cia operating abroad like secret spies they see in james bond movies
where as our equivalent to the cia is asis = The Australian Secret Intelligence Service they are our secret spies in other countries
iykwim = if you know what i mean
iykwim mr. asio spy
4 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for the explanation dude.
I'm on the the CSIS switch list. It's wild. Have a good night bro and good luck down under.
4 months ago
Anonymous
CSIS isn't any government entity my asio friend
4 months ago
Anonymous
you think farmboys won't be constantly raided by marauding groups of the most heinous scum on earth when everything goes to shit?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>. It's trivial to defend swathes of rail lines. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_clearance_%28IEDs%29
Wanna bet?
bro Canada is unironically going to collapse before the US does, if things ever escalate to this level for you, we will be an anarchy state by that time. shit is genuinely fricked up here bud, we ain't uniting anybody anytime soon.
I can promise you Illinoisans hate Chicago passionately. in any civil war scenario there is no way Illinois and Chicago would be on the same side of anything
eh
the Covid era proved that nothing is going to get done if china stops sending us fertilizer and computer chips. larping in the middle of the Appalachians is just going to get you killed too
>city slickers would surrender after a week when they run out of literally everything.
more realistically the federal government would begin confiscating resources and forcing production under penalty of treason and imprisonment. obviously some state governments would actively resist hence the civil war aspect. eventually though the fed - in addition with city zombies - would take over resources from rural areas until we basically become stalins soviet union where under-educated, under-qualified cityfolk are forced to produce resources at unrealistic levels while those who originally held the means to that production are imprisoned/killed for their resistance. then everyone starves because jamal and yolanda cant run a potato farm and a slaughterhouse.
it's hilarious to me that people think political borders would remain static in a second american civil war. this show only reveals the extent of american ignorance. the world has become so stupid in just one or two generations, it's hardly believable.
the only thing one can do about it is to laugh.
I really don't think an American Civil war would last very long.
the American geopolitical position would collapse but it isn't like our far flung forces around the world would magically teleport home. sure the US has around 1 million deployed here but how many would be loyal? how many of that million are actual fighters and not support.
plus the ever increasing number of foreigners adds another wrinkle. how exactly loyal and reliable are they in a tough situation? historically relying on foreigners for soldiers doesn't always produce the best results. what's Juan or N'dudu going to do when General they/them orders them to take a risky assignment? >I just signed up for the green card. frick this, my shithole was better than this.
>most of them aren't combat but support.
The Special Forces (a small number) are white, and the Chair force, the guys with the most to lose in anarchy, are white. Infantry is even less white than /misc/.
4 months ago
Anonymous
how many do you think will be loyal when the opportunity to loot and pillage is there?
it's that or trying to track down a hillbilly in the woods picking them off with an old 30-08. >frick this shit homie I'm finna get minez, frick all this being shot at.
the more 3rd world the army looks the more 3rd world they'll behave.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody gives a frick about single hillbillies doing their best Outlaw Josey Wales (who simply fled to Mexico). The organized FBI infiltrated groups would just be napalmed by the AF who gives zero fricks.
You really have this outsized Fox News-paranoid view of rioting.
Seconding this as south Illinoisan, but I also feel like it would be a similar story all over the country with big cities. Except this map is fricking stupid and doesn't make any sense
St. Louis feels like it has it's own civil war every Tuesday, to me the place is more like a Mad Max thunderdome but IRL and huge than a city. Springfield is ok but I don't go there often, Alton is pretty much an extension of St. Louis. Edwardsville's getting shittier by the day, but at least it's got a Hawaiian Bro's. Collinsville, Fairview Heights, and Belleville are the godawful future that Edwardsville has.
St. Louis is is definitely not comfy, but there is an appeal to it that I miss since leaving
edwardsville was still fairly wealthy 3 years ago so that’s funny that you say it’s going to shit, are you exaggerating?
I do exaggerate, I just say it's going to shit cause there always seems to be more nogs than the last time I visit. Don't know if you know where I'm talking about, but there used to be a huge patch of trees, fields, and I think an abandoned house, right across from where the Bestbuy is, they cleaned that all out and are building a bunch a shit there like an Olive Garden and they already set up a Chick-fil-A, it's actually pretty cool.
Edwardsville/Collinsville/Belleville/ect are all fine
t. grew up in Collinsville.
Maybe it's just from the outside looking in from Marine, but just the other day when I went to Collinsville there were several homeless people camped outside the Walmart begging.
4 months ago
Anonymous
only poorer whites have to live around them. if you have money you can either live in an exurb or gated community. HOAs are also a way to keep out all but the most civilized non whites
4 months ago
Anonymous
>there were several homeless people camped outside the Walmart begging.
That's practically everywhere that isn't a tiny town anymore.
Liberals tend to confuse voters who simply are voting for free gibbs with actual support who otherwise wouldn't bother to pee on them if they were on fire.
It honestly looks like these lines were drawn by someone that has no understanding of the U.S. or American society. If there's gonna be another civil war I think the divide would be between the rural and urban population.
If there was a modern Civil War, Alaska and Hawaii wouldn't team up with the midwest, lol. In fact, they'd just go independent and offer refuge from the war.
Most of the major cities in the U.S. get nuked. Government and society collapse as a small town in Nebraska try to survive on its own. Second season was about a new government being formed in Cheyenne, WY while the remnants of the old government establish itself in Columbus, OH.
It's only two seasons. The show was a casualty of the 2007 writers guild strike and CBS pulled the plug on it before they could give it a proper ending. Despite that its still an awesome show with some really awesome moments.
deep state combo of a private military corporation, a mega-corp and the DHS/CIA that nuke ~23 US cities to plunge the country into chaos in order to restructure the government the way the see fit.
it was cancelled for obvious reasons. it came to close to the truth. spookily so. shame too, was a great show.
Alaska and California would both be shit places to live in a civil war
Southern California has no fricking water, and Alaska has to have most of their food shipped in
if I had to hide out anywhere during the civil war it’d be with the globalists in nyc
4 months ago
Anonymous
This, Mexico and Canada would fall over themselves to sell food INTO the United States.
4 months ago
Anonymous
and drugs
especially drugs
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Southern California has no fricking water
what is blythe and the colorado
the book has alot of crazy fun stuff >Italy gets thier tiny "roman lake" kinda... >except Germany turned the Med into farmland somehow? >and all the Africans got accidentally deleted.
>Pakistani border that didn't even exist until after WWII >they forgot to erase the Haiti-Dominican border >African cities under nazi rule but with their postcolonial names
And that's just from a minute's glance. God what a shitty map
>its election time >oh boy we will start the civil war FOR REAL this time >please vote for us btw
Murrica politic is a fricking joke, they need a real strong leader like putin or xi
>Murrica politic is a fricking joke, they need a real strong leader like putin or xi >Putin
Can't even beat Ukraine. >Xi
Can't even invade Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, India or any country throughout Asia.
America is Israel's "friend til the end" regardless of who's in office, Evangelicals/American israelites ensure it.
We continuously play this rhetorical game with China to soothe their peevish tiny-dick feelings.
They know who those joint naval exercises are aimed at.
They made a mistake making it entire states separating. A good chunk of California up to Oregon and Washington with parts of Nevada, Utah and Arizona forming an alliance with most of Texas makes more sense
The only reason everyone has for thinking a civil war would be between cities and rural areas is because that is the division most useful for the ruling class. If that ruling elite lost control, which would have to happen before any civil war begins, the division would be useless.
New York and California have more irreconcilable differences in isolation, outside of being integrated into current world order. They should be on opposing sides of a future conflict over influence of the heartland.
The most accurate one is where the northern half of the country just cuts off heat to the cities and then all the Catholics and browns freeze to death. One harsh winter and America is 80% white Protestant again. That one freeze in Texas the other year froze something insane like 5000 illegals to dearh
Anyone who thinks West Virginia would be a loyalist state and not immediately join up with Florida has no clue what West Virginian's are actually like. Half of the rednecks in Florida came straight from WV or OH.
Don’t take the bait! Biden and democrat government bureaucrats and elected officials are hoping his reelection will result in armed violence so he can then declare martial law and seize everyone’s guns.
That or a fricking moron made the map. Hell, I can tell Cinemaphile is more knowledgeable that these Civil War writers. If we made a map, it wouldn't be divided by states or regions. It would be divided by race.
Because the people who made the movie have never been to Wyoming, Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska or anywhere else in the country where everyone wants them to go away
Empty States have the most to lose in a break-up, as they have vastly outsized influence in the current Government. They occasionally talk up a good anti-Federalism, but they are reliant on it and privileged under that system. Texas would slip into Narco State control within a decade without Federal military monies. (Anyone thinking the Texas Oil Sheiks are going to share are beyond delusional).
not really. empty middle states produce a shit ton of food and energy.
California agriculture is dead without syphoning water from the Colorado river.
there was a reason California was sparsely populated, with the Colorado river it's basically a desert most of the year.
the fly over states don't have any of those problems. NYC is the center of finance but that means nothing. watch how fast fake wealth is wiped out Wall Street should thing like that every happen.
>not really. empty middle states produce a shit ton of food and energy.
Empty States poomp a lot, but don't refine it. And the vast bulk of their food production is reliant on corporate chemical industry, even the cattle need that Monsanto feed.
Of course they'd be fine-ish for a few years, but only if they were pre-occupied with domestic stuff.
a lot of those Monsanto seeds that farmers are using only grow for one generation, meaning that the crop yield doesn’t produce any seeds
ruralgays need to admit that they’d suffer just as much as people in the cities
Yeah I know this, being in Missourah. Ironically the hippie Organic Food movement would probably save them, along with all the wind and solar farms those city slickers sold them.
lol you do realize not everything is GM. GM produces higher yields but they aren't the only player in town.
you know those seeds you buy in stores, they come from nurseries and virtually all of them are located in areas where people actually grow things.
oh no crops yields go down. guess who isn't getting them anymore so it's basically nothing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
eh, I’m thinking about the entire logistics of the situation, not saying I’m 100% right
you still need tractors and maintenance on your equipment as a modern farmer. it’s kind of crazy to act like they’d be completely fine
resources don't matter only value added does. no one cares that third world shitholes provide all the cobalt and lithium because all they do is dig it up. it takes even less work than that to farm
That was literally less than a tenth of a percent of people causing destruction.
You might as well say Chudley shooting up shartmart shows how white people would react in a lawless land.
>countless
Yeah, millions beyond counting.
Face it, any nasty weather system causes 1000x the damage of a few angry anarchists breaking windows and setting some cars on fire.
I'm sorry that Tucker sold you a Planet of the Apes Habbening, and that you are stupid enough to believe him.
I'm actually not one of those "/misc/ is right about everything" jackasses so this suddenly being acknowledged by the feds and published in mainstream press was a huge surprise to me, that whites apparently really feel no stake in the US anymore, including families that have literally been veterans for two centuries
Like police, military is primarily shit work for shit pay, then trying to get your actual benefits from the shit VA system and god forbid you get poisoned from the water at some crumbling military training center or exposed to burn piles.
The GOP will simultaneously hug you and fight like mad to keep their hecking corporations from having to pay up.
>we've switched places
As someone who was actually born in the last century, it amazes and confuses me that it's now the gun-toting rednecks who are saying "Well I just think we should be focusing more on the problems in our own country" and the latte sipping urbanite homosexuals who are saying "You are a traitor! You want the terrorists to win! We have to secure democracy overseas!"
It's not really that odd. The right wanted to go to war and kill some arabs because they attacked us. It was time to put a boot in some ass. Russia's not attacked us, Ukraine's biggest relevance to Americans was a joke in Seinfeld. Has nothing to do with us AND we're tired and just got out of a nearly 20 year occupation.
>The right wanted to go to war and kill some arabs because they attacked us.
Except they didn't attack the Arabs who funded the attacks, they harassed some Taliban as a side-gig while trying to finish off Saddam for closure and glory.
And everyone was told that Saddam was a major backer of religious fundies (LMAO) and was going to arm them with nukes.
4 months ago
Anonymous
And of course we only fought Saddam in the FIRST place because he threatened our Second Greatest Ally, before that he was a good friend and ally.
Same Second Greatest Ally that's been pumping billions into the Trump Family coffers.
Obviously, all self respecting whites won't enlist because they know their government hates them and all of the cucked whites won't enlist either because the idea of holding a gun or leaving their computer scares them. The only people willing to die for the US are brainless boomers who are all too old to enlist anyway
Doesn't matter how liberal they are, there is a cultural connection between Washington and the rest of the West, Idaho, Oregon, and Montana especially. More important, a burning seething hatred of California. Death before rule from Sacramento
Afghans had the benefit of home ground/nowhere to go/sheer numbers. Cletus doesn't have this advantage. He's going to panic when his fat wife's disability check doesn't clear along with their child benefits.
>You are my brother and you wouldn't survive without me which is why I'll fricking kill you if you try to leave I'll burn you to ashes you fricking subhuman don't you understand that I own you and that's for your own good
Why do Yankees always end up sounding like Putin talking about Ukraine
Do you even realize what a psychopath you are
Because Balkanization just leads to worse and worse outcomes, the country would just devolve into vastly more corrupt Oligarch States and life would be universally worse for all Americans.
If you just can't handle the number of Black folks in AllState commercials, buy a ticket to Putin's Paradise.
>Balkanization just leads to worse and worse outcomes
Out of the six countries that make up Yugoslavia, four of them are much better places to live today than they were when Yugoslavia existed
Slovenia in particular is a model example and is approaching UK/France/German levels of wealth and development
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, almost anything is an improvement from a Soviet Vassal State, I'm sure if North Korea balkanized it would probably improve lives. But we aren't talking about 3rd world countries (outside of Mississippi and Louisiana).
4 months ago
Anonymous
So to be clear your sweeping generalization about "Balkanization" doesn't apply in... the Balkans?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, to be clear, Soviet Vassals States in near civil war/genocide conditions generally improve when they settle down and stop fighting one another.
France, Sweden, German, Italy ect would be in a vastly worse condition broken up, let alone the economic powerhouse of the US.
The European Union is gaining tremendous strength and economic advantage from de-balkanization.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>The European Union is gaining tremendous strength and economic advantage from de-balkanization.
You mean that weak currency and being replaced by a bunch of third worlders? leftoids are moronic lmao
4 months ago
Anonymous
By what metric is the Euro a weak currency? (every currency is weak vs the US dollar).
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You mean that weak currency
Showing of that University of /misc/ Education.
Guess it's all ok since germans are paying for italy,greece and soon albania and bosnia, funny how both homosexuals skiped the part about being replaced, guess leftoids do have a humiliation fetish.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Guess it's all ok since germans are paying for
This is exactly how America works with Red States.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>You mean that weak currency
Showing of that University of /misc/ Education.
I don't think people care enough to even fight a civil war. We're pretty content just letting whatever powers now control our foreign policy slowly rape the rest of the world so we can doordash chick fil a from our iPhones. It is scary how even glowies seem pretty stupid and apathetic now though
>The US couldn't even handle Afghanistan
Yeah that's the point. If as a "unified" whole America couldn't handle a desert country far away after pearl harbor or whatever, how would it handle something it couldn't withdraw from with people on mostly equal footing who know the land just as well if not better. All while still trying to preserve the image of being the good guys while killing the very citizens they want back in the union? My favorite part of that civil war post that gets passed around is the idea of assuming it's still up and running is the news media running with every single death and action taken by their own side.
If the survival of America depended on Afghanistan falling, there wouldn't be enough left of it to put on a map.
It was just some corrupt, misguided puppet-State shenanigans to prop up the military industry. Which had the desired effect.
>Arizona is loyalist
If we didn't fall immediately under Mexico's control we would be our own chaotic hellscape. We have more guns than many eastern states combined.
Weird political shit happens all the time IRL. That said I doubt they're going to be very coherent about it.
Here's a Scenario: >Near future >Unexpected technological advancement somehow obsoletes most of the companies in Silicon Valley >At the same time, US debt crisis + debased US dollar cause massive financial crash >CA unable to pay for basically anything without tax revenue, keels over like Michigan did when its finances went to shit and Republican majority comes to power in legislature and Governor's mansion >They go absolutely fricking ham on the every part of California's government
wa-la, modern Red California. Keep in mind it wouldn't be stably red, but it's a possible way to get there from where we are today
California’s blueness comes from exactly four sources >San Francisco and the gay area in general >Los Angeles >Hispanic farmhands in the central valley who don't want to get deported >Dominion voting machines and Sacramento’s insistence on (a) registering everyone to vote who gets a driver’s license and (b) allowing illegals to get a driver’s license
Everything outside of that is blood red. It’s identical to every other state except that the cancer is much more developed here and the solutions are the same as in every other state
Americans dont have 1/50 the ideological zealz conservatives wont do anything and leftists will just get gayer and the quality of life will get worse. And in the end both sides will just larp
This is based on the moronic misconception that Texas and California can secede from the Union and be a self sufficient based on the fact that they both were at one point independent.
I don't have much hope in a country that has less stability in their infrastructure and power grid than India and I also don't have much hope for a country that somehow loses trillions of dollars over night and has to be bailed out on top of the other's problems.
the groupings would only really be nonsensical depending on the contrivances in the story. civil wars can force together the most unlikely of alliances since they're not necessarily based on establishment party politics.
>first thing they are gunna do is use the nuclear football call up anyone that is opposing them and say surrender immediately or i will nuke you
Second thing they do is shit their pants when the ENTIRE rest of the world says “do it and we will frick you beyond recognition.” Remember, not even Kim or Putin (or pissrael for that matter) are insane enough to use their nukes, what makes you think our leaders are any different?
>Second thing they do is shit their pants when the ENTIRE rest of the world says “do it and we will frick you beyond recognition.” Remember, not even Kim or Putin (or pissrael for that matter) are insane enough to use their nukes, what makes you think our leaders are any different?
see
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>but you also believe most elites are satanic pedo's?
>at what point do you think they'd stop to maintain power so they don't face justice?
>Remember, not even Kim or Putin (or pissrael for that matter) are insane enough to use their nukes
nukes are a last resort thing for them to use in desperation if they are ever invaded or attacked once it's civil war all bets are off they use whatever weapon or technology they have available
[...]
Nothing will happen
i'm not suggesting anything will happen i'm speculating but it won't be just a shooting war with rural area's laying siege to cities
What exactly are the Loyalist States loyal to? The government that's left if this scenerio were to happen? Because if so, i find it insulting they think my state would remain loyal to their asses just because we happen to have a jackass currently trying to run things.
its so sad you think a country is only a country if your team has their figurehead at the top. you are loyal to a person and a party, not a country and im quite certain you call yourself a patriot
even laymen writers who don't fully grasp 4thGen warfare won't write something as completely ignorant as "civil war will be a nuclear bombing campaign against civilians". You're beyond clueless.
Minnesota, Oregon, and Washington would never be apart of a separatist movement. Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Nebraska and Kansas should be apart of the western forces. I think they were trying to balance out the number of states in each movement, in reality there would be twice as many separatist states than loyalist.
yeah they've shut down a few silo's as a subtle hint to not use them again
but remember when they tested the atomic bombs and Tchaikovsky's the Nutcracker Suite was crackling through the radio due to interference from a storm?
yeah the aliens were onto it from day dot but they didn't stop it from happening.
they wont intervene because if they were to they would of stopped the american's nuking japan....
This is unironically the most realistic civil war map made yet. Chuddies are just to unintellegent and racist to understand.
>just to unintellegent
ouch there
Yea, the non-American and non-white incels are always trying to stir up shit with their weaponized insecurity, they get online like they’re fighting some PR war while their real life just goes.
take your HRT meds homosexual
Pottery.
a civil war would be cities vs everyone else
This anon gets it. A real civil war would be rural militias nationwide occupying patches of land while the federal government maintained control of urban centers.
Without any actionable borders and rebels relying on asymmetrical warfare, any movement not small enough to be wiped in a few weeks would create a chaotic, bloody, endless exchange that would have no winners. Rebels would resort to whack a mole sieges, trying to target multiple urban centers to spread government forces thin.
National supply of tendies would grind to a total and irreversible halt.
it would be total chaos in urban areas as supply shortages hit. the ape outs would be cat 5 easily. I wouldn't want to be a white liberal in that situation.
crackers for dinner
Uhh yeah supply shortages for sure, what happens when there's no trucks to supply the fricking dollar generals keeping half the grandmas in this country alive?
area that grows food vs area that doesn't
hmmmm
you have no idea how rural communities even work. people actually help each other, so yeah I wouldn't bet on large urban areas to survive any crisis
>you have no idea how rural communities even work
It works like this: kids go to hang out at the walmart parking lot to buy fent and show off their squatted truck. Then they go beat up their elderly neighbors for money to purchase more fent. After a few years of that they die
Largely this, while their parents/grandparents sell their land to Big Agricorp or some Chinese Shitcoin Farm.
Ports are urban
Railyards are urban.
Cope all you want, cities can sustain themselves. They will import food from friendly nations and transport it freely to other cities as landlocked and infrastructure-free ruralcucks starve.
>w-w-we'll just sabotage the railways
kek. look up "world war 2" and start there. It's trivial to defend swathes of rail lines.
people don't seem to understand cities are were the political power is. if your city is blue and you are a country boy you'll be literally killed or leave before that happens.
>. It's trivial to defend swathes of rail lines.
I work as a railroader. It's actually trivial to completely frick up a rail line.
Yet during the biggest war in recorded history, with nearly nonexistent surveillance technology, the trains continued to run.
Yeah because there were no insurgent partisans operating in North America, genius.
Your property has been confiscated and is being held in trust by the Army Council, the provisional government of the Republic.
You can pick east or west. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.
Also, we're gonna confiscate your precious phone as a final frick-(You).
>Yet during the biggest war in recorded history, with nearly nonexistent surveillance technology, the trains continued to run.
this is worst take i've seen so far in this thread?
supply lines will always be attacked see what's happening in gaza imagine that is your city.
so yeah the chinks might give you some rice or some shit in israelite york or l.a. for a price....
but you will still be under siege from rural area's and nothing at all will come in from any of the rural area's like food, water, medicine
but you live in a city where the proliferation of guns is illegal so the only people with guns are now the people who illegally obtained them before the civil war started aka gang members and other criminals
also remember
>defund the police
yeah they have guns as well
these entities have considerably more power over you now so they will probably interact as a filter to who gains access to food from foreign entities coming into the ports
so that means you join their gang or suck their dick or your sister does it in order to get access to rice
you didn't think about that did you.
>you didn't think about that did you.
He didn't think about anything other than being a performative homosexual on Cinemaphile
That's why he hasn't replied.
Free Mr. Bond.
why are you following me around asio iywim haha
>asio iywim
>following me around
QRD? Genuinely confused.
i don't think you are confused or is some nat soc day where everyone got the word out to say
>Free Mr. Bond
???
>asio iywim
Can you type that out?
i will when you first confirm why you are saying free mr. bond?
Do not know who he is? He's the best rapper in history.
He's the racist Weird Al.
He's currently serving 10 years in Austria for his genuis music.
ok it's just on another board not associated with what we are talking about someone responded with a similar thing to me
>Free Mr. Bond
asio = The Australian Security Intelligence Organisation
they are like the secret police of australia not equivalent to the fbi or dhs or nsa
imagine if the u.s. had a secret police like the Stasi in east germany that is what asio pretty much are they spy on australian citizens domestically
normies think asio is the cia operating abroad like secret spies they see in james bond movies
where as our equivalent to the cia is asis = The Australian Secret Intelligence Service they are our secret spies in other countries
iykwim = if you know what i mean
iykwim mr. asio spy
Thanks for the explanation dude.
I'm on the the CSIS switch list. It's wild. Have a good night bro and good luck down under.
CSIS isn't any government entity my asio friend
you think farmboys won't be constantly raided by marauding groups of the most heinous scum on earth when everything goes to shit?
>. It's trivial to defend swathes of rail lines.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Route_clearance_%28IEDs%29
Wanna bet?
I'd rather just kms than fight alongside illinois homosexuals
t. Wisconsin chad
>unintellegent
Theres no way Canada is not a major player in this. New England is British clay and would quickly integrate into the United Kingdom of Canada
bro Canada is unironically going to collapse before the US does, if things ever escalate to this level for you, we will be an anarchy state by that time. shit is genuinely fricked up here bud, we ain't uniting anybody anytime soon.
>unironically unintentionally uninteresting uninspiring unintelligent
It’s a good thing you’re dumb enough not to realize you were born dumb.
>"to" unintelligent
Christ.
This is your brain on political """News"""
It would've been better to transplant a map of the Syrian civil war or so forth.
I can promise you Illinoisans hate Chicago passionately. in any civil war scenario there is no way Illinois and Chicago would be on the same side of anything
Yeah any modern civil war would just be country vs. city and the city slickers would surrender after a week when they run out of literally everything.
pretty much. I think a nation wide county election map would be more accurate.
eh
the Covid era proved that nothing is going to get done if china stops sending us fertilizer and computer chips. larping in the middle of the Appalachians is just going to get you killed too
>city slickers would surrender after a week when they run out of literally everything.
more realistically the federal government would begin confiscating resources and forcing production under penalty of treason and imprisonment. obviously some state governments would actively resist hence the civil war aspect. eventually though the fed - in addition with city zombies - would take over resources from rural areas until we basically become stalins soviet union where under-educated, under-qualified cityfolk are forced to produce resources at unrealistic levels while those who originally held the means to that production are imprisoned/killed for their resistance. then everyone starves because jamal and yolanda cant run a potato farm and a slaughterhouse.
Misc Pot managed to accomplish the opposite - ruralchads rose up and inflicted Complete Citygay Death
And also everybody still starved somehow
We've flooded Mexico and Canada with cheap food, they'd jump at the chance to import their plentiful supplies into the US for ebin profits.
countryphiles in deep blue states would be dispossessed of their land.
The working class yt conservstives are in for a rude awakening....
it's hilarious to me that people think political borders would remain static in a second american civil war. this show only reveals the extent of american ignorance. the world has become so stupid in just one or two generations, it's hardly believable.
the only thing one can do about it is to laugh.
I really don't think an American Civil war would last very long.
the American geopolitical position would collapse but it isn't like our far flung forces around the world would magically teleport home. sure the US has around 1 million deployed here but how many would be loyal? how many of that million are actual fighters and not support.
plus the ever increasing number of foreigners adds another wrinkle. how exactly loyal and reliable are they in a tough situation? historically relying on foreigners for soldiers doesn't always produce the best results. what's Juan or N'dudu going to do when General they/them orders them to take a risky assignment?
>I just signed up for the green card. frick this, my shithole was better than this.
>wouldn't last that long
honestly yeah most of us would die in the first couple days
probably in highly urbanized areas but that's no biggie
The military is a shit ton of blacks and 2nd generation immigrants.
I heartily laugh a the idea that they'd back Chudley's Revolution.
most of them aren't combat but support. yeah being a supply clerk with basic combat training means frick all.
>most of them aren't combat but support.
The Special Forces (a small number) are white, and the Chair force, the guys with the most to lose in anarchy, are white. Infantry is even less white than /misc/.
how many do you think will be loyal when the opportunity to loot and pillage is there?
it's that or trying to track down a hillbilly in the woods picking them off with an old 30-08.
>frick this shit homie I'm finna get minez, frick all this being shot at.
the more 3rd world the army looks the more 3rd world they'll behave.
Nobody gives a frick about single hillbillies doing their best Outlaw Josey Wales (who simply fled to Mexico). The organized FBI infiltrated groups would just be napalmed by the AF who gives zero fricks.
You really have this outsized Fox News-paranoid view of rioting.
Seconding this as south Illinoisan, but I also feel like it would be a similar story all over the country with big cities. Except this map is fricking stupid and doesn't make any sense
Springfield? Alton? edwardsville? you know you’re on St. Louis clay
St. Louis feels like it has it's own civil war every Tuesday, to me the place is more like a Mad Max thunderdome but IRL and huge than a city. Springfield is ok but I don't go there often, Alton is pretty much an extension of St. Louis. Edwardsville's getting shittier by the day, but at least it's got a Hawaiian Bro's. Collinsville, Fairview Heights, and Belleville are the godawful future that Edwardsville has.
St. Louis is is definitely not comfy, but there is an appeal to it that I miss since leaving
edwardsville was still fairly wealthy 3 years ago so that’s funny that you say it’s going to shit, are you exaggerating?
Edwardsville/Collinsville/Belleville/ect are all fine
t. grew up in Collinsville.
I do exaggerate, I just say it's going to shit cause there always seems to be more nogs than the last time I visit. Don't know if you know where I'm talking about, but there used to be a huge patch of trees, fields, and I think an abandoned house, right across from where the Bestbuy is, they cleaned that all out and are building a bunch a shit there like an Olive Garden and they already set up a Chick-fil-A, it's actually pretty cool.
Maybe it's just from the outside looking in from Marine, but just the other day when I went to Collinsville there were several homeless people camped outside the Walmart begging.
only poorer whites have to live around them. if you have money you can either live in an exurb or gated community. HOAs are also a way to keep out all but the most civilized non whites
>there were several homeless people camped outside the Walmart begging.
That's practically everywhere that isn't a tiny town anymore.
Liberals tend to confuse voters who simply are voting for free gibbs with actual support who otherwise wouldn't bother to pee on them if they were on fire.
>illinoisans
lmao, everyone outside of the Chicagoland area, Urbana and Springfield literally don't matter. You'll do what you're told homosexual.
Central IL here. Can't wait for the boogaloo and day of the rope
/pol/tards about to seethe to high heaven
It honestly looks like these lines were drawn by someone that has no understanding of the U.S. or American society. If there's gonna be another civil war I think the divide would be between the rural and urban population.
>all those straight line borders
africa-tier
I'm fairly certain the the east coast (north and central) would be it's own thing and I highly doubt any flyover states would throw in with them.
More like A23
gay and generic
>2 entirely Mexican states allying is somehow immersion breaking
you get it
>Mexican's allying is somehow immersion breaking
el peor enemigo de un mexicano es otro mexicano
As if A24 would acknowledge that future issue.
implying state lines would remain intact in a shtf scenario like this
who are the so called loyalist states loyal to??
satan
If there was a modern Civil War, Alaska and Hawaii wouldn't team up with the midwest, lol. In fact, they'd just go independent and offer refuge from the war.
>Georgia joined the FL alliance
Clearly this was written by people that haven't lived in the South at all.
I miss Jericho.
What was Jericho about? I forget. I just remember they sent circus peanuts to CBS trying to get the show un-cancelled.
Most of the major cities in the U.S. get nuked. Government and society collapse as a small town in Nebraska try to survive on its own. Second season was about a new government being formed in Cheyenne, WY while the remnants of the old government establish itself in Columbus, OH.
is it worth watching today? does it have a satisifying ending?
It's only two seasons. The show was a casualty of the 2007 writers guild strike and CBS pulled the plug on it before they could give it a proper ending. Despite that its still an awesome show with some really awesome moments.
thanks anon
I know they made Jericho Seasons 3 and 4 as comics. There's a pretty good summary of Season 3's story on Wikipedia, anybody got Season 4?
deep state combo of a private military corporation, a mega-corp and the DHS/CIA that nuke ~23 US cities to plunge the country into chaos in order to restructure the government the way the see fit.
it was cancelled for obvious reasons. it came to close to the truth. spookily so. shame too, was a great show.
How does this map compare to something like "Man In The High Castle"?
Which one is more realistic?
So japan would still have almost no oils… which was on of the main reasons they started the war…
Alaska and California got yuge oil deposits.
Alaska and California would both be shit places to live in a civil war
Southern California has no fricking water, and Alaska has to have most of their food shipped in
if I had to hide out anywhere during the civil war it’d be with the globalists in nyc
This, Mexico and Canada would fall over themselves to sell food INTO the United States.
and drugs
especially drugs
>Southern California has no fricking water
what is blythe and the colorado
australia frickton of LNG, coal and uranium
vietnam, aka the real reason for that war.
Kazakhstan is the new israeli homeland
I thought it was the vacation mecca of Vatniks wanting to sit out "patriotic enlistment, mandatory".
In my country there is problem.
One of the most moronic alternative history maps I have ever seen.
He wrote it using the I ching as an experiment.
it's also wrong. The real one is worse
the book has alot of crazy fun stuff
>Italy gets thier tiny "roman lake" kinda...
>except Germany turned the Med into farmland somehow?
>and all the Africans got accidentally deleted.
>except Germany turned the Med into farmland somehow?
was based on a real thing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa
>Pakistani border that didn't even exist until after WWII
>they forgot to erase the Haiti-Dominican border
>African cities under nazi rule but with their postcolonial names
And that's just from a minute's glance. God what a shitty map
This is one of the most moronic concepts for an alternate WW2
It is. Fatherland was more believable.
Does that book/show ever justify how the US lost to Japan despite Americans just kicking their ass after Midway?
yeah roosevelt is assassinated and germany drops a nuke on the US
The one from Man In The High Castle is an occupation scenario (impossible) based on geography (reasonable)
>Lolwut
Propaganda to make a national divorce seem like doomsday.
>its election time
>oh boy we will start the civil war FOR REAL this time
>please vote for us btw
Murrica politic is a fricking joke, they need a real strong leader like putin or xi
i bet you havent made a single post about actual tv and film in over 48 hours
it's probably closer to 72
>Murrica politic is a fricking joke, they need a real strong leader like putin or xi
>Putin
Can't even beat Ukraine.
>Xi
Can't even invade Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, India or any country throughout Asia.
You seethed at George W. Bush 20 years ago.
You're a seething bleeding heart liberal and will never convince anyone otherwise.
How do you feel about Biden voicing his support for Israel and his acknowledgement that Taiwan is not an independent nation but a part of China?
America is Israel's "friend til the end" regardless of who's in office, Evangelicals/American israelites ensure it.
We continuously play this rhetorical game with China to soothe their peevish tiny-dick feelings.
They know who those joint naval exercises are aimed at.
I want one of those hats.
They made a mistake making it entire states separating. A good chunk of California up to Oregon and Washington with parts of Nevada, Utah and Arizona forming an alliance with most of Texas makes more sense
This is such a a boring premise
Give me a Balkan version or I ain't watching
The only reason everyone has for thinking a civil war would be between cities and rural areas is because that is the division most useful for the ruling class. If that ruling elite lost control, which would have to happen before any civil war begins, the division would be useless.
New York and California have more irreconcilable differences in isolation, outside of being integrated into current world order. They should be on opposing sides of a future conflict over influence of the heartland.
Think outside the current terms of conflict
culturally there is a huge difference.
Why are Massachusetts and Vermont so fricking gay?
now show the map of population density in the US, shit gonna blow your mind!
Commiefornia went full Peter Theil/BAP
Pro-Florida Carolinian reporting for duty
Is blue good or bad?
mexican so kinda neutral
The most accurate one is where the northern half of the country just cuts off heat to the cities and then all the Catholics and browns freeze to death. One harsh winter and America is 80% white Protestant again. That one freeze in Texas the other year froze something insane like 5000 illegals to dearh
Anyone who thinks West Virginia would be a loyalist state and not immediately join up with Florida has no clue what West Virginian's are actually like. Half of the rednecks in Florida came straight from WV or OH.
what's the release date on this one?
>election year
>"what if Americans all just killed each other?"
I kind of see where they're coming from
That's such a gay map. What kind of brainlet simpleton made such moronic idea?
This is the real civil secession USA map from real kino that only based anons will recognize
Anyone care to know what this map is from?
If I had to guess, it's a likely scenario if the South won back in the 1800s. Hence the old timey names of regions.
Crimson Skies
Based. This. What a great game. Crimson Skies definitely put more thought into it's world than this trash
>everyone nukes each other to death
>miami inherits the world since they're at the edge of the map away from everyone else
Sorry brother, Arkansas is closer to East Texas folk than Dixie
if California and Texas are allies why wouldnt they just take Arizona and New Mexico and make a connect 4? Arizona is cutoff from so much shit
Florida Chad's, where we at?
Don’t take the bait! Biden and democrat government bureaucrats and elected officials are hoping his reelection will result in armed violence so he can then declare martial law and seize everyone’s guns.
One good Cat 4-5 and Texas is now Haiti. Florida I guess gets to support seven sub-saharan Africa-tier vassals and good luck to them there.
>It honestly looks like these lines were drawn by someone that has no understanding of the U.S.
So leftists?
That or a fricking moron made the map. Hell, I can tell Cinemaphile is more knowledgeable that these Civil War writers. If we made a map, it wouldn't be divided by states or regions. It would be divided by race.
Cinemaphile knows. Cinemaphile always knows.
Why would the basically empty middle states keep their borders if the country fell apart?
Because the people who made the movie have never been to Wyoming, Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska or anywhere else in the country where everyone wants them to go away
Empty States have the most to lose in a break-up, as they have vastly outsized influence in the current Government. They occasionally talk up a good anti-Federalism, but they are reliant on it and privileged under that system. Texas would slip into Narco State control within a decade without Federal military monies. (Anyone thinking the Texas Oil Sheiks are going to share are beyond delusional).
not really. empty middle states produce a shit ton of food and energy.
California agriculture is dead without syphoning water from the Colorado river.
there was a reason California was sparsely populated, with the Colorado river it's basically a desert most of the year.
the fly over states don't have any of those problems. NYC is the center of finance but that means nothing. watch how fast fake wealth is wiped out Wall Street should thing like that every happen.
>not really. empty middle states produce a shit ton of food and energy.
Empty States poomp a lot, but don't refine it. And the vast bulk of their food production is reliant on corporate chemical industry, even the cattle need that Monsanto feed.
Of course they'd be fine-ish for a few years, but only if they were pre-occupied with domestic stuff.
a lot of those Monsanto seeds that farmers are using only grow for one generation, meaning that the crop yield doesn’t produce any seeds
ruralgays need to admit that they’d suffer just as much as people in the cities
Yeah I know this, being in Missourah. Ironically the hippie Organic Food movement would probably save them, along with all the wind and solar farms those city slickers sold them.
lol you do realize not everything is GM. GM produces higher yields but they aren't the only player in town.
you know those seeds you buy in stores, they come from nurseries and virtually all of them are located in areas where people actually grow things.
oh no crops yields go down. guess who isn't getting them anymore so it's basically nothing.
eh, I’m thinking about the entire logistics of the situation, not saying I’m 100% right
you still need tractors and maintenance on your equipment as a modern farmer. it’s kind of crazy to act like they’d be completely fine
resources don't matter only value added does. no one cares that third world shitholes provide all the cobalt and lithium because all they do is dig it up. it takes even less work than that to farm
I wonder who benefits from California's agriculture
Surely it couldn't be more states than California itself
heaven forbid I won't have any avacados or almonds
California and Texas are too influential for this to be realistic. Most of their neighboring states would join them quickly.
That was literally less than a tenth of a percent of people causing destruction.
You might as well say Chudley shooting up shartmart shows how white people would react in a lawless land.
They destroyed countless small businesses.
>countless
Yeah, millions beyond counting.
Face it, any nasty weather system causes 1000x the damage of a few angry anarchists breaking windows and setting some cars on fire.
I'm sorry that Tucker sold you a Planet of the Apes Habbening, and that you are stupid enough to believe him.
>I'm sorry
Yeah, to look at.
The crazy thing to me is that the Pentagon is suddenly admitting that whites just don't enlist in the military at all anymore
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/01/10/army-sees-sharp-decline-white-recruits.html
I'm actually not one of those "/misc/ is right about everything" jackasses so this suddenly being acknowledged by the feds and published in mainstream press was a huge surprise to me, that whites apparently really feel no stake in the US anymore, including families that have literally been veterans for two centuries
They don't recruit in white neighborhoods anymore.
Like police, military is primarily shit work for shit pay, then trying to get your actual benefits from the shit VA system and god forbid you get poisoned from the water at some crumbling military training center or exposed to burn piles.
The GOP will simultaneously hug you and fight like mad to keep their hecking corporations from having to pay up.
Well, judging by the reactions to General Milley, Ukraine, etc., we've switched places and the GOP just fricking openly hates the military now
So what are the Democrats going to do to help their constituents in the new, gayer, browner, girlboss military?
You'd be surprised how few countries are relieved to hear the tomahawks, drones and precision artillery are being "manned" by women of color.
>we've switched places
As someone who was actually born in the last century, it amazes and confuses me that it's now the gun-toting rednecks who are saying "Well I just think we should be focusing more on the problems in our own country" and the latte sipping urbanite homosexuals who are saying "You are a traitor! You want the terrorists to win! We have to secure democracy overseas!"
Ron Paul won in the end
>enrolled
It's not really that odd. The right wanted to go to war and kill some arabs because they attacked us. It was time to put a boot in some ass. Russia's not attacked us, Ukraine's biggest relevance to Americans was a joke in Seinfeld. Has nothing to do with us AND we're tired and just got out of a nearly 20 year occupation.
>The right wanted to go to war and kill some arabs because they attacked us.
Except they didn't attack the Arabs who funded the attacks, they harassed some Taliban as a side-gig while trying to finish off Saddam for closure and glory.
And everyone was told that Saddam was a major backer of religious fundies (LMAO) and was going to arm them with nukes.
And of course we only fought Saddam in the FIRST place because he threatened our Second Greatest Ally, before that he was a good friend and ally.
Same Second Greatest Ally that's been pumping billions into the Trump Family coffers.
Obviously, all self respecting whites won't enlist because they know their government hates them and all of the cucked whites won't enlist either because the idea of holding a gun or leaving their computer scares them. The only people willing to die for the US are brainless boomers who are all too old to enlist anyway
Im doing itnfor the gi bill only. 1 more year left. Tbh the only way to do it is not do combat and just abuse the benefits and leave right away
> The US couldn't even handle Afghanistan
the afghan war wasn’t designed to be won, it was to enrich the military industrial complex
THIS. It was an Al Qaeda mop up operation that was going to resolve itself in a week, and there's no money in that.
Portland and Seattle siding with Boise and Bismarck over fricking Sacramento lmao
Doesn't matter how liberal they are, there is a cultural connection between Washington and the rest of the West, Idaho, Oregon, and Montana especially. More important, a burning seething hatred of California. Death before rule from Sacramento
t. WA anon
Take a look at this and then check the source and realize it's not an AI deepfake or anything, he actually frickin' said it
Afghans had the benefit of home ground/nowhere to go/sheer numbers. Cletus doesn't have this advantage. He's going to panic when his fat wife's disability check doesn't clear along with their child benefits.
So to be clear here your plan is for the US government to starve and bomb US citizens until they agree to trust and support them again
See: last Civil War.
This is presuming millions want to Die for Drumpseid or Flyin' Ted or whoever.
>You are my brother and you wouldn't survive without me which is why I'll fricking kill you if you try to leave I'll burn you to ashes you fricking subhuman don't you understand that I own you and that's for your own good
Why do Yankees always end up sounding like Putin talking about Ukraine
Do you even realize what a psychopath you are
Because Balkanization just leads to worse and worse outcomes, the country would just devolve into vastly more corrupt Oligarch States and life would be universally worse for all Americans.
If you just can't handle the number of Black folks in AllState commercials, buy a ticket to Putin's Paradise.
I just directly accused you of being a tyrannical conqueror like Putin and your response is "u love Putin lol"
You've got a frickin' 75 IQ dude
>tyrannical conqueror
No, you are talking Sedition from our fine but flawed democracy. You don't get to declare "tyrannical invasion".
>Balkanization just leads to worse and worse outcomes
Out of the six countries that make up Yugoslavia, four of them are much better places to live today than they were when Yugoslavia existed
Slovenia in particular is a model example and is approaching UK/France/German levels of wealth and development
Yes, almost anything is an improvement from a Soviet Vassal State, I'm sure if North Korea balkanized it would probably improve lives. But we aren't talking about 3rd world countries (outside of Mississippi and Louisiana).
So to be clear your sweeping generalization about "Balkanization" doesn't apply in... the Balkans?
Yes, to be clear, Soviet Vassals States in near civil war/genocide conditions generally improve when they settle down and stop fighting one another.
France, Sweden, German, Italy ect would be in a vastly worse condition broken up, let alone the economic powerhouse of the US.
The European Union is gaining tremendous strength and economic advantage from de-balkanization.
>The European Union is gaining tremendous strength and economic advantage from de-balkanization.
You mean that weak currency and being replaced by a bunch of third worlders? leftoids are moronic lmao
By what metric is the Euro a weak currency? (every currency is weak vs the US dollar).
Guess it's all ok since germans are paying for italy,greece and soon albania and bosnia, funny how both homosexuals skiped the part about being replaced, guess leftoids do have a humiliation fetish.
>Guess it's all ok since germans are paying for
This is exactly how America works with Red States.
>You mean that weak currency
Showing of that University of /misc/ Education.
Patrolling the Mojave makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
I don't think people care enough to even fight a civil war. We're pretty content just letting whatever powers now control our foreign policy slowly rape the rest of the world so we can doordash chick fil a from our iPhones. It is scary how even glowies seem pretty stupid and apathetic now though
people are only pacified as long as the bread and circuses are around, once those are gone, the proles will actually wake up, but not a second before
That's the question; not what's tearing America apart, it's what's holding it together
Millions of people aren't going to rush to enlist to fulfill this jerkoff's
fantasies
did Arizona and New Mexico make themselves fly-over states?
California annexes
>Arizona
>Nevada
>Oregon
>Washington
Texas annexes
>Oklahoma
>Arkansas
>Louisiana
>New Mexico
Florida alliance
>Florida
>Georgia
>Alabama
>Mississippi
>The US couldn't even handle Afghanistan
Yeah that's the point. If as a "unified" whole America couldn't handle a desert country far away after pearl harbor or whatever, how would it handle something it couldn't withdraw from with people on mostly equal footing who know the land just as well if not better. All while still trying to preserve the image of being the good guys while killing the very citizens they want back in the union? My favorite part of that civil war post that gets passed around is the idea of assuming it's still up and running is the news media running with every single death and action taken by their own side.
If the survival of America depended on Afghanistan falling, there wouldn't be enough left of it to put on a map.
It was just some corrupt, misguided puppet-State shenanigans to prop up the military industry. Which had the desired effect.
highly doubt northern california would work with southern cal if war broke out
>florida alliance
frick yea, I can be an honorary florida-man, the next time I do something stupid.
How many hours has it been now?
who
*Curb theme starts playing*
what's so crazy about this? there's WAY more people in the blue section, so they get to decide what the state does
I hadn't considered that, thank you for this.
Literally zero people living in Chicago
how do any self respecting whites live in cities anymore? how can you stand seeing nigs and jeets every day?
Not everything has to be realistic, it looks like a fun movie anons
>ITT: Suburban kids fantasize about a civil war that they will never even participate in
In what universe are flyover states loyalist? A Civil War map just looks like the electoral college map.
>a civil war is when my side wins the election!!
sheeple with no imagination outside the mainstream itt
How the absolute frick did you come to that conclusion based on what I said?
wow more predictive programming
>Arizona is loyalist
If we didn't fall immediately under Mexico's control we would be our own chaotic hellscape. We have more guns than many eastern states combined.
Weird political shit happens all the time IRL. That said I doubt they're going to be very coherent about it.
Here's a Scenario:
>Near future
>Unexpected technological advancement somehow obsoletes most of the companies in Silicon Valley
>At the same time, US debt crisis + debased US dollar cause massive financial crash
>CA unable to pay for basically anything without tax revenue, keels over like Michigan did when its finances went to shit and Republican majority comes to power in legislature and Governor's mansion
>They go absolutely fricking ham on the every part of California's government
wa-la, modern Red California. Keep in mind it wouldn't be stably red, but it's a possible way to get there from where we are today
California’s blueness comes from exactly four sources
>San Francisco and the gay area in general
>Los Angeles
>Hispanic farmhands in the central valley who don't want to get deported
>Dominion voting machines and Sacramento’s insistence on (a) registering everyone to vote who gets a driver’s license and (b) allowing illegals to get a driver’s license
Everything outside of that is blood red. It’s identical to every other state except that the cancer is much more developed here and the solutions are the same as in every other state
Americans dont have 1/50 the ideological zealz conservatives wont do anything and leftists will just get gayer and the quality of life will get worse. And in the end both sides will just larp
This is based on the moronic misconception that Texas and California can secede from the Union and be a self sufficient based on the fact that they both were at one point independent.
>you can't be an independent naiton because.... well you just CAN'T!
both have significant swathes of fertile land and access to the sea.
I don't have much hope in a country that has less stability in their infrastructure and power grid than India and I also don't have much hope for a country that somehow loses trillions of dollars over night and has to be bailed out on top of the other's problems.
maybe if texas were free of federal tryanny they could achieve stability in their energy infastructure.
>muh trillion dollar black hole
independence is a clean slate.
They are free to run ERCOT as they want. They choose to run it like shit because they're republicans.
uh-huh. that's not how the apparatus of the US leviathan operates.
>boogey man
Oh no!!!
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>no actual argument
>that's not how the apparatus of the US leviathan operates.
>is an argument
Oh you.
He's saying your nation is a malevolent tyrant.
I'm pretty certain it's nonsensical groupings on purpose
the groupings would only really be nonsensical depending on the contrivances in the story. civil wars can force together the most unlikely of alliances since they're not necessarily based on establishment party politics.
Nothing will happen
>first thing they are gunna do is use the nuclear football call up anyone that is opposing them and say surrender immediately or i will nuke you
Second thing they do is shit their pants when the ENTIRE rest of the world says “do it and we will frick you beyond recognition.” Remember, not even Kim or Putin (or pissrael for that matter) are insane enough to use their nukes, what makes you think our leaders are any different?
>Second thing they do is shit their pants when the ENTIRE rest of the world says “do it and we will frick you beyond recognition.” Remember, not even Kim or Putin (or pissrael for that matter) are insane enough to use their nukes, what makes you think our leaders are any different?
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>but you also believe most elites are satanic pedo's?
>at what point do you think they'd stop to maintain power so they don't face justice?
>Remember, not even Kim or Putin (or pissrael for that matter) are insane enough to use their nukes
nukes are a last resort thing for them to use in desperation if they are ever invaded or attacked once it's civil war all bets are off they use whatever weapon or technology they have available
i'm not suggesting anything will happen i'm speculating but it won't be just a shooting war with rural area's laying siege to cities
What exactly are the Loyalist States loyal to? The government that's left if this scenerio were to happen? Because if so, i find it insulting they think my state would remain loyal to their asses just because we happen to have a jackass currently trying to run things.
its so sad you think a country is only a country if your team has their figurehead at the top. you are loyal to a person and a party, not a country and im quite certain you call yourself a patriot
grim
loyal to not getting bombed.
bombed by who?
the people who can bomb them.
name names, homosexual. Really seems all the other factions could bomb them at any time, but they are not loyal to them. Explain your homosexualry.
even laymen writers who don't fully grasp 4thGen warfare won't write something as completely ignorant as "civil war will be a nuclear bombing campaign against civilians". You're beyond clueless.
for what purpose does a country have nukes? as a deterrent from attack or invasion
if you are being attacked or invaded from internal rebel forces what's the difference?
when you look at biden do you actually believe he wouldn't pull the trigger on certain defiant states if they were to secede?
remember russia now has left all nuclear proliferation treaties and accords since the ukraine war so they are pretty much meaningless
you probably think that russian nukes are aimed at u.s. cities instead of fresh water sources, forests and farming land
Minnesota, Oregon, and Washington would never be apart of a separatist movement. Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Nebraska and Kansas should be apart of the western forces. I think they were trying to balance out the number of states in each movement, in reality there would be twice as many separatist states than loyalist.
The aliens won't allow nukes to be used again, they're watching.
yeah they've shut down a few silo's as a subtle hint to not use them again
but remember when they tested the atomic bombs and Tchaikovsky's the Nutcracker Suite was crackling through the radio due to interference from a storm?
yeah the aliens were onto it from day dot but they didn't stop it from happening.
they wont intervene because if they were to they would of stopped the american's nuking japan....
I feel like California would instantly annex Nevada and there’s not much that could be done about it.
My idea is that the would take the lowest south end of NV, just for access to lake mead and the Hover dam, almost typed damn.
I will literally beat the shit out of any of you morons 1v1 I'm from Michigan come at me, I will literally end the war single handedly
bell st macca's 15 mins i'll be wearing the collingwood 2023 premiers hat
This and that newest CIA propaganda movie were absolutely disgusting trailers to play before Godzilla Minus One.
>CIA propaganda movie
what movies that?
I don't recall the name. I think it was a corny-sounding three word title.
only map i give a FRICK about
daily reminder
, and Washington would never be apart of a separatist movement.
>Not unless they could get their Cascadia movement off the ground.
Ahem.
Indeed, none would be non-Union. This is not a joke.
NUKE OTTAWA
NUKE TORONTO TWICE
I hope a certain orange fool is the bad guy
States with the largest Spanish speaking population