Look what you did to him, Cinemaphile. Tormenting one George wasn't enough for you?
>The “Game of Thrones” franchise creator published a blog post titled “Dark Days” that included a banner reading “current mood: depressed.” Martin reflected on the past year as he ushered in 2024.
>“This year, though, as I reflected on the year we had just lived through, I found I had no appetite for living through any of that again,” Martin said. “2023 was a nightmare of a year, for the world and the nation and for me and mine, both professionally and personally. I am very glad that it is over. Unfortunately, so far 2024 looks to be even worse.”
>He continued, “Well, I take solace where I can. In chocolate thrones, if nowhere else. In books. In films and television shows…though even there, toxicity is growing. It used to be fun talking about our favorite books and films, and having spirited debates with fans who saw things different…but somehow in this age of social media, it is no longer enough to say ‘I did not like book X or film Y, and here’s why.’ Now social media is ruled by anti-fans who would rather talk about the stuff they hate than the stuff they love, and delight in dancing on the graves of anyone whose film has flopped.”
>“People say, ‘I’m done with “Game of Thrones,” they burned me, I’m not even going to watch this new show — I’m not going to watch any of the new shows,'” Martin said, citing the premiere of prequel series “House of the Dragon.”
>“I mean, are we talking about a million people? Or are we talking about 1,000?” Martin continued. “People who have nothing to do except tweet all day over and over again? I don’t know.”
> “I mean, are we talking about a million people? Or are we talking about 1,000?” Martin continued
Several million. Viewership is counted for tv shows, George.
Why take it so personally?
>story is boring
>everyone js ugly
>we know what's going to happen
Many of the world's beloved classics fit this description.
Learn to fricking read. He's not talking about how many viewers the show had, he's talking about how many people waste away their lives shitposting about stuff they don't like on social media.
>waste away their lives shitposting about stuff they don't like on social media.
Like George is doing?
>people like to.....complain
yeah welcome to the human condition moron
>“I mean, are we talking about a million people? Or are we talking about 1,000?” Martin continued
GRRM on the holocaust
lazy old fatso , i will torment him even more in hell when i die and become a demon
If you don't want people to get mad at you, stop doing the things that make them mad. What people get mad at is your procrastination, George.
>yeah bro I'll write six more Dunc & Egg novellas
No you won't, where are they? You're not writing them
>I'm writing a sequel to Fire & Blood
Where is it?
>I'm writing Winds of Winter
Where is it?
Coming along nicely. A crossed t there, a dotted i there, replacing all instances of Joseph with Joughsef to make it sound more fantastical. Shan't be much longer now.
Living his best life. I should go back to read his older books
>Become a millionaire
>Live in a stony hellhole next to a mound of dirt with a waist high wall, iron chairs and lukewarm pool
>Enjoy the complete lack of shade before you retreat into your McMansion to lie beneath the constant whirr of AC that never gets shut off
>On your way to the kitchen, you pass the dusty heap under which your 1989 Mac is buried
>You sneeze, briefly disturbing the burial mound of your legacy
Grim.
He's just an old fat frick
If I had his money, I'd have a new escort every week. I'd have so many UTIs...
Given his age and weight a nubile escort putting in the extra effort for the delusional possibility of being on an HBO show might literally frick him to death.
Unless Tyrion speech about wanting to die during sex was George putting his thought to paper, I could see him avoiding the risk
Wasnt that done as joke? I always love these jokes that blow back big time. Like double fine posting themselves eating momey after kickstart success. Then they ran out of money.
yeah, if you're going to poke fun at your detractors, you better be 100% certain
>Spite your fans
>Wonder why they are so negative and hostile towards you
It is a mystery
Someone give Russia or China coordinates of this place and say its some top secret military base
why are there biblical names in westeros like john anyway
>why are there biblical names in westeros like john anyway
Because ASOIAF is set in our distant future, after genetically enhanced superhumans (the Valyrians) enslave regular humans and colonize Planetos but at some point after doing so, their society collapses into a brutal civil war that's so bad, the regular humans on the planet revert to cavemen and forget all about their history.
>planetos
lmfao no way that’s real
>is that... a war on the other side of the world? OHH I MUST DELAAAY DELAAAAAAAAAAAY
just admit you wrote yourself into a corner and lost interest in finishing the books, fat frick
He isn’t wrong.
Also, if you only watched the show without reading the books, you don’t actually deserve to have an opinion.
Same goes for people who DO read his books, but don’t read them how they are supposed to be read.
At the end of the day it’s still hilarious how much this old fat Santa triggers all of Cinemaphile.
Hello, George. Do any writing lately?
Writers don't owe you writing.
I'll slap your fat fricking belly you obese cretin. Chop chop on the words, fat boy. I want to read them. Now.
>I want to read them
At this point I have no desire to, if released tomorrow I may get around to reading it eventually, may not though
if they came out tomorrow i would look up spoilers and set loose at least a dozen AI trained to shit on it everywhere it was allowed to post.
Doing God's work anon, an inspiration to us all
If I could help somehow I would. Alas, am moronic. Definitely should keep an eye out for leaks if he ever gets close to release.
We don't owe them good reviews either. So if we want to call them out on their bullshit we're allowed to. So him whining about toxic fans is rather hypocritical.
Readers don't owe you not telling you you're a fat, lazy, self-obsessed sack of shit who should ditch the sailor cap and jump off a cliff, George.
yes they do, they're writers, that's the job.
They owe the publishers that they have a deal with though.
How long can Patrick Rothfuss keep getting away with it?
If you sell something as being part of a series, you implicitly promise the reader that the lack of a conclusive ending is something to be rectified.
An author does owe readers their books, and if you don’t believe me ask a publisher how well they’d sell if you added a note saying
>author may decide to say frick it and stop writing
You won't get away with this, George.
Actually I think it was Neil Gayman who said that
They do otherwise they're not "writers"
Look, if George never finished A Song of Ice and Fire and died before releasing Winds of Winter, fair enough. Whatever. It sucks, but it is what it is.
But when you're well and alive and sell the rights to your ON GOING story that started as books to be made into a trashheap TV show, while living and promising to deliver books 6 and 7 all the while, you do owe us. I didn't get into these books back in the mid 2000s thinking I would have to finish the story with someone else as the helm in video format. I expected to either finish the story in book form or not at all. He fricking owes his book fans his version of the story.
How many people would’ve picked up A game of thrones in 1996 if they knew thirty years later the series would still be unfinished? Every writer has an unspoken agreement with their audience that they’ll release a finished story
BUT I READ THE BOOK THAT MEANS THEY OWE ME EVERYTHING!!!!
NO IT'S OKAY, GEORGE JUST DO WHATEVER YOU WANT. TAKE OUR MONEY, MAKE A DOGSHIT TV SHOW PROMISING YOU'RE WORKING ON A BOOK THAT DOESN'T EXIST, AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE!
Then Georgy Porgy should man up and say he isn't going to finish the series
They owe it to their publishers. So, chop chop
>Writers don't owe you writing.
>Same goes for people who DO read his books, but don’t read them how they are supposed to be read.
What the frick does this even mean. You read the words in order. That's how it works.
If you go “woah, dragons come from the moon?” or “ice dragons are real??” like a stupid fricking idiot, yeah, you can definitely read these books wrong.
Look at absolute morons like David Lightbringer.
>Same goes for people who DO read his books, but don’t read them how they are supposed to be read.
How are you supposed to read his books?
By not up and believing everything you read? You read these books with a heavy grain of salt. See
Jesus, 99.99% of all fan theories are blatant fan-fiction, like they know better than the fat man.
It’s like the morons making fun of his map without realizing it’s supposed to be as accurate as pic related.
You morons just exhale.
>You read these books with a heavy grain of salt.
Based pseudoliterate moron.
>t’s like the morons making fun of his map without realizing it’s supposed to be as accurate as pic related
Him trying to save face by saying Westeros is the size of South America didn't help the case for his dumb map skills. Like alot of fantasy writers scale isn't his forte.
‘Alot’ isn’t a word, anon.
Tropical and redolent, nicely played.
Yes it is.
What the frick is that
looks pretty frickin accurate to me, I dunno what's on the other side though. I assume that's where all the brown bug people infesting my homeland are coming from?
>no australia
perfection
I'm curious where he was having all these discussions without being exposed to haters. Some gatekept forum where the mods deleted anything the least bit negative on sight?
Ah yes, the old "well it makes perfect sense if you read the book" argument. Rubbish. Rubbish and boulderdash. Poppywiener even. One doesn't need to be versed in background material to judge something objectively on it's own merits.
How they're supposed to be read...is this invoking "read what I meant, not what I wrote" now?
He means it’s obvious Dany was going to be evil, and it basically is obvious in the show too unless you just buy the I am woman hear me roar angle. But the final season was sloppy for sure
Danny becoming evil was oblivious after first book. In first book. She is set up in way that she could be child of Rhaegar and Lyanna. Orginal outline especially foreshadows that. Song of ice and fire would be about Stark kids.
But then George fell in love with dragon frickers and now everything had to be about them.
Set up is clearly people rejecting her after she arrives with his slave and horde army.
She can't take that rejection and goes crazy. But I doubt she will be one to burn down kings landing. That will probably be done by Jon Connington. How his biggest failure was when he didn't burn down town.
Now when he sieges kings landing. He set its on fire. And maybe cersei has been stockpiling blue fire stuff and how city goes boom.
Now Jon Connington two biggest mistakes were not burn down town and burning down town.
Danny's evil thing will probably be destroying Griff in brutal way after people chose him over her.
His own blog
There you go. People tend to be a lot more civil on personal blogs, and again you've got the censure option.
>boulderdash
That’s a video game you fricking moron.
*balderdash
>lets just pretend political subversion hasn't ruined the artform
what a disgusting excuse for a human being. Reminds me of Michael Moore.
Science fiction has become absolutely rotten with identity politics cancer, elevating and celebrating mediocre authors simply because they have a personal background that’s less common for genre authors,
This guy absolutely celebrates and promotes this cancer. Yet he has the gall to whine about ‘political subversion’? Please spare me.
>I found I had no appetite for living through any of that again,”
That would be a first
Well the last years have been pretty depressing for everybody.
Regarding the audience reaction, he has to realize that GoT was globally successful with all kinds of people. And all kinds of people includes absolute morons. Half of the population has an IQ below 100 and one in four has an IQ below 90. If you take everyone seriously then you will go crazy.
His fans aren't just a few thousand fantasy book nerds anymore. He has to learn to ignore them and their dumb opinions and just write his silly dragon books.
>appetite for living through any of that again,” Martin said. “2023 was a nightmare of a year, for the world and the nation and for me and mine, both professionally and personally. I am very glad that it is over. Unfortunately, so far 2024 looks to be even worse.”
It weren't proper bo, I tell thee! 🙁
>2023 was a nightmare of a year
Idk what this fatass is talking about, 2023 was one of the best years of my life. Played through Dragon Quest 8 and shit.
The fat frick will apparently write anything, just so he could avoid writing Winds. Frick him, the train has left, it's been more than a decade since the last book.
I'm always down for a GRRM hate thread
fat frick. I hope he dies then AI completes his work in a acceptable but forgettable manner ann then it fades in obscurity forever
Joe Abercrombie has the talent and work ethic to finish it through
Abercrombie has his own shit to write though
Such as? I don't get the sense that he feels like anything in First Law world needs to be wrapped up and he just started a new series based in a new universe, he may never write another FL book again
>Such as?
>and he just started a new series
Why did you ask a question and then answer it right away?
I misread your initial post as JA had loose ends to finish
Are Abercrombie and Sanders the only big authors that actually can complete anything?
Steven Erikson finished the ten Malazan books in record time
Robin Hobb put out Realm of the Elderlings very regularly
Rowling had no trouble finishing Harry Potter
Its pretty clear Rowling had multiple ghost writers. She wrote 1, 2, 3 and 7 100%herself. And she had help or full on ghost writer in 4, 5 and 6.
Probably help with 4 and 5 and full on ghost writer in 6. You get whiplash with how diffrent 6 is compared to rest. Espesily when its sandwished between order and hollows.
Style and content is just diffrent.
This is only book where harry is treated like jock he is. Women want him. He is most famous kid in school. Rich. Ace in sport team. Always center of atenttion.
In rest of the books he is treated like smelly nerd looser. But in 6. He is jock. Its only book where he has any lust.
In order. Harry is angsty b***h boy. Then 6 he isn't that much anymore.
Whole point of 6 is to set up final book and prepare harry for duel against voldemor. All the lessons from Snape and dumbledor are for that. At end Snape is screeming to harry what to do. Harry and dumbledor getting soulstone is set up what you expect rest of them to be.
But then 7 comes and its wildy diffrent. Non of the set ups pay off. Soulstone hunt is biggest nothing burger there is. They just fall on gangs hand. Other then bank heist.
All the set up for end duel is just forgotten and it's super wand that solves issue.
>Robin Hobb
Yikes
You mean she took forever between books?
No, just a shit author whose success is a constant mystery to me.
So you contributed nothing to the actual conversation? Nice. Now go read more about how gay Fitz and the Fool are for each other until you like it
>Nooooo you can’t just express opinions on Cinemaphile
Oh and then there's Tad Williams, that guy's basically old reliable
>wrote the series that inspired George to start ASOIAF
>has written two series with equally massive wordcounts in the time George has been working on ASOIAF
>is finishing a third one this year
>“People say, ‘I’m done with “Game of Thrones,” they burned me, I’m not even going to watch this new show — I’m not going to watch any of the new shows,'” Martin said, citing the premiere of prequel series “House of the Dragon.”
"Did the ending to the TV show suck? No, it must be the public discourse that's gone wrong."
Crazy how he’s writing about consuming fanfiction of his own work and being bored of it, as if everyone else doesn’t have the same problem and as if he can’t write the authentic thing himself.
Alright /tvpol/, since ASOIAF was killed by an accused case of TDS, if you had a time machine back to 2016, which would you rather have?
>Donald Trump presidency (our timeline)
>Winds of Winter, and likely the other books in the series
I'm not American so I don't care about Trump, I want the books
>Donald Trump presidency
This one. Media memes, Dennis Rodman and Kim Jong, collective leftist meltdown they're still suffering from. Much better than any fiction, kek
Trump for sure. I didn’t appreciate him at the time though, I voted for Jill Stein back then, then I didn’t vote in 2020, but this year I’m voting for Trump.
>i only like voting for a literal russian asset and a guy who may as well be.
Biden gave 1.7 trillion of your tax dollars to Israel. That’s $1,700,000,000,000.00 taken from you and given straight to the israelite.
Wait, I never had 1,7 trillion...
yeah now you know why
Crazy how they can see this happening and still try to call anyone else a foreign asset.
>This thread is getting a little too TRUMP for my liking
>Time to start DICKRIDIN’ for BIDEN!
Keep it up, wumao, and we’ll see about getting you an extra bowl of rice next week.
I'ld have to take the trump presidency since getting winds of winter means we would never get the 7th book. kek.
Trump all the way. And for Biden to have had a heart attack and died.
Trump fought harder for his legacy, he deserves it more than George. Trump will be remembered forever, George will be forgotten by 2033
Hillary fricking won anyway
Someone tell George I didn’t watch the new show because of the blackwashing.
>rich as frick
>fat, old, fat and tired
>don't feel like writing
>quit
>blame it on blumpf
i kneel
>Meanwhile the US grows more polarized every day. Hate is rising, democracy is under threat, millions of Americans have swallowed the lie that the 2020 election was stolen. Newspeak has taken over political discourse, cancel culture is destroying lives and careers, and we have a disgraced, indicted, venomous ex-president winning primaries despite openly declaring that he will be a dictator on day one and will govern on a platform of “retribution,” when he is not busy grabbing women by the pussy. His last attempt to overthrow the government failed on January 6, but some of his more ardent supporters are now saying that “next time” they will bring more guns. There are actually folks out there wanting civil war.
Why do people always use this excuse, it has nothing to do with their work
I was interviewing someone for a software dev position, and his excuse for a 3 year employment gap was because he was too distraught over J6 and "the times" to work. That was a wonderful feedback form to fill out.
Don't you know the song Hello Darkness My Oldfriend? Times can affect people's minds, chuddy chud
They were still able to write that song, you know. The song isn’t called ‘sorry I wasn’t able to write this year because JFK’s assassination got me down’
Maybe it’s getting more polarised because privileged leftist c**ts use their platforms to spread blatant misinformation and misrepresentation about a man that huge numbers of people wanted as president?
>chocolate thrones
>some stay dry while others get the bone
>ANAL PRONE
>raping Starks is why Boltons were born
>CHOCOLATE THRONE
Sansa consented to the marriage (and wedding night), Ramsay didn't.
Sansa raped Ramsay.
And it was beautiful.
>https://www.axios.com/2023/10/07/indian-americans-now-largest-asian-american-group-united-states
lol
He is partly right. In the past you had forums dedicated to every niche out there. Now it's all on twitter or reddit where normies cry because Casca came while being raped or Guts called Griffith homo. Smartphones were a mistake
did some new people from twitter discovered berserk?
Fat c**t
I voted for Jon Snow after reading the third book. He changed everything I ever thought. His words were that good.
Yeesh
He isn’t wrong. Art is pure power. Look at religion. The asoiaf fanbase has religious zeal.
You don’t need mind control powers to mind control people, you just need a good enough story.
What are the biggest frick-ups in his career?
>Clearly firing his editor after ASoS
>Deciding to include POVs set in every remaining kingdom
>***Selling out to HBO***
>Allowing two nepo israelites to run the show into the ground while his royalties get larger and larger
>Contracting the incurable Trump Derangement Syndrome
The new Targaryen kid. It is simply too much at this point. He just can't handle it
Realizing that one forum was coming up with better theories and storylines for his unpublished books than he ever could.
>I'm sad because of BLORFT
Hopefully Blomft returns and brings Kushner back with him, who siphons 7 trillion tax dollars off to Chabad Lubavitcher lobbies. Fat ass won't breathe a word of it though, for he knows who butters his stale trenchers
>your daughter marries a israelite
>he converts her to judaism
Why does anyone believes Trump is capable of running a country, again?
>cancel culture and newspeak has gone too far!
>and that's why we have to stop drumpfffffffff
are boomers even human
>are boomers even human
Supposedly
I don't get why he's so upset. All of the geopolitical crises going on simply serve as good writing inspiration for him. He's so wealthy that all of that barely affects him. If he's worried about people not voting the way he wants to vote, why doesn't he write up a Putin or Trump-like figure and have the Starks take them down through the power of friendship? Or he could have some reveal that Yi Ti is filling Westeros with some tainted milk of the poppy shipments. Or he could just double down on his hedonism and write twice as much incest. The sky's the limit for this guy.
But we all knew he was out of juice years ago. Shit, probably a decade ago when he had the chance to write the new books before the show caught up.
>I don't get why he's so upset.
To be A Good Person, you have to be obsessed with supporting Ukraine, supporting Israel, getting vaxxed, respecting pronouns, celebrating diversity, and opposing Drumpf. If you aren't obsessed 24/7 with those topics, you might notice that the price of food, gas, and rent have doubled while the minimum wage is less than $8, you never got a drop of student debt relief, unions are dying, pensions barely exist anymore, and healthcare is less important than printing billions for Ukraine and Israel. You bigot.
>supporting Israel
There's been a bit of a disagreement at the Being A Good Person offices over this one, half are for it, half are against. It's so hard to Be A Good Person
Ita funny what a bold faced bribe the debt forgiveness was. Except you can't even call it a bribe because they never even paid the voters in the end.
...what does he think a hasbeen fantasy writer can do? clap his fat hands twice and solve the world? what a self absorbed c**t
>writes grimdark Middle Ages because things really were like that!!1
>is depressed by the world in the current year™
Gurm...
this fat frick has been unable to write the rest of the series since 2004, what is he blaming haters for?
>waaaah people are mad I didn't finish my book series
lol. lmao, even. Just be honest that you're taking the royalties and running. I'd have respect for you if you did.
I bet he smells like crab legs and an old bookstore.
House of the dragon was shit.
The original show was shit.
The books are about literal shitting.
He might as well be from India.
You guys like Wild Cards right?
>33 volumes of this shit literally no one has ever read
I'm convinced that literally nobody reads this.
bet it's a money laundering op
Yeah I love shittier x-men!
I think we can all agree that the only truly worthwhile genre author is the legendary Rick Tomlinson, the craftsman behind In The Black and Starship Repo
This guy chose to lay down with dogs, and now he's surprised that he got up with fleas?
>Crafts his own reputation as "the American Tolkien"
>Will clearly die of heart disease as an obese man with no children. His legacy left unfinished and in chaos.
>People decades from now will continue to read Tolkien while he is slowly forgotten.
The anglos win this time.
I enjoyed House of the Dragon but it is true that I don't know anybody else who does. In my country, we pirate things mostly but evenso, a few seasons into GoT it was hard to come by anybody who wasn't watching the series. The few people I've told about HotD didn't even know it was out and said "they'll get around to watching it eventually... Maybe in a few years".
It's easy to understate the impact on pop culture the fall of GoT had. It was MASSIVE but now completely irrelevant and memoryholed
They probably shouldn’t have turned the Valyrians black.
they shouldn't have made the velaryons black but somehow that isn't even the most offensive casting decision.
>‘I really like playing women and I’m really good at it’
If he had released Winds by 2020, it would have been okay but yeah the entire IP is damaged thanks for dumb and dumber
Ok George, make Jaime azor ahai
around 2014 the media industrial complex realized it had hit the limits of its growth and started farming outrage instead of coasting on making the same things over and over. and instead of making new shit but that was never an option. so george is kind of right, we are in a feedback loop that started with millennials who refused to like anything sincerely, it had to be ironic or joss whedon-y. there is no way out. just hoard classic media in physical forms, more than one, and wait out the dark ages.
I'm already starting my Robert E. Howard collection.
If we’re heading into the ending of Fahrenheit 451, I’m going to unironically be about 80% of the Vance Integral Efition.
I think also, Georgie did get convinced that all of the most laughable changes of the post-book episodes should be what his final entries are about. Sansa and Arya should become unstoppable figures despite still being girls. Cersei should somehow become a feared leader despite already being a frick-up. Jon, Tyrion, and Jaime should randomly become impotent losers.
He drank the Kool-Aid.
I hope this fat frick expires before he ever finishes asoiaf. If Winds does come out I hope it's shit on. The saga will never get completed though. Spring will never come.
mmmm hmmm
I still think the show dropped two nukes on the series: brought in a new breed of fans that GRRM wasn't ready to cope with, and blackpilled him because they did season 8 with his notes and everyone hated it. That coupled with his "frick you" money means this guy is living like boogie1488 until he dies with no ragerts.
>It used to be fun talking about our favorite books and films, and having spirited debates with fans who saw things different…but somehow in this age of social media
Yes.... somehow
Loving this new era of liberal where they acknowledge how shit everything is but they keep voting and supporting the same people. lel
I was mentioning this in another thread. They keep mashing the button for globalist elites like Biden who take bribes from America’s enemies and are busy importing and installing hordes of future Democrat voters regardless of how that affects our most economically vulnerable citizens.
My nuncle is almost a man grown, and he must needs see a mummers farce, although it makes no matter, for it is only half-a-groat to pay.Truly he is as useless as nipples on a breastplate, or close enough to make no matter , said the leal serjeant while grease was dripping down his chin onto his shirt of boiled leather, dipping his black bread into his pease soup.
[the bread was fresh from the ovens]
Although I care little and less for what you have to say, this concern is not without a certain low cunning.
Poison was a woman's weapon like as not, though a flagon of fine Dornish sour red sat flanked by two stone cups in the bedchamber. "A sellsword is loyal only to his purse, but a Lannister always pays his debts," said the fiery-haired prostitute as she unlaced his sleeveless leather jerkin, after which he spent himself inside her with three quick thrusts.
mine own mayhaps
Stole it from /tg/.
Words are wind.
Dark wings, dark words.
Part of me hopes he never releases the rest of the books just so I don't have to read another character think to themself "Dark wings, dark word" every god damn time someone gets a message or see's a random raven.
And people give JK Rowling shit for having every character in existence "stretch their legs."
To be fair he does intentionally set this up as a common phrase so people would say it annoyingly often irl.
If a book had "Working hard or hardly working?!" repeated over and over and over it would be just as awful.
>and delight in dancing on the graves of anyone whose film has flopped.
Heckin' based.
I love knowing my shit posts demoralize these frickers
>I mean, are we talking about a million people? Or are we talking about 1,000?” Martin continued. “People who have nothing to do except tweet all day over and over again? I don’t know.”
Does this fat homosexual ever leave his house? All the GoT media is a corpse. Go to the mall, Best Buy, Walmart or whatever and you will see Jack Skellington, Sonic, Mario, Pokemon, Marvel and DC, He-Man, etc. It used to be you'd see GoT figures, mugs, t-shirts and so-on, but now you don't. You don't because people don't give a frick about it anymore. It does not move merchandise and retailers are not going to purchase merchandise that sits forever like Finn and Rose toys and gets marked down 80% off
Nobody gives a shit about GoT anymore and GERM has himself fully to blame.
>Sell out to two greasy hand rubbing israelites
>Graze endlessly on all the food you bought with the israelite money while they utterly destroy your magnum opus and leave it to rot
>Refuse to finish the books after well over a decade of waiting
>Instead decide to write more Wild Cards because everybody cares about that
>Go online and pout when you see everyone shitting on you
GERM has nobody but himself to blame for being a fat butthole. Hopefully he continues to browse the normiesphere on Twitter and wherever else, seeing everybody talk shit about him until he either gets motivated, or is demoralized so bad that he chokes on his lobster tail
Struck a nerve, I see.
>fight Mike lost
Stale trencher
If he ever finishes WOW im not reading it. im over it. frick that fat turd.
My theory is that the finale he had planned for the books was in the broad strokes the same as the show: Jon is R+L, Jon and Dany bump uglies, the others are defeated and then they have to deal with more political war bullshit, Jaime ends up dying for incest pussy, Dany goes crazy and dies, Jon goes wildfolk, and someone else takes the throne.
He saw the reaction to the tv ending and tried unsuccessfully to write a different ending, before realizing that he would have to basically rewrite the whole series for it to work. Thus he just quit and is now endlessly procrastinating until the day he dies and he doesn’t have to be bothered with finishing the books anymore.
Yeah that's what I assume too.
But honestly it would be fine if he followed that outline. The problem with the TV series was the execution.
Daenerys turning into her mad father would have worked if they had done it over the course of a one or two full seasons, not over the course of two episodes. Same with Jon hooking up with her for a time and killing her in the end. But those ideas would need actual story arcs.
The last two "seasons" of GoT feel like a show that got canceled and had to wrap things up hastily. It's so dumb.
Yes. The trouble is the ending wouldn’t be bad if HE had written it. It would make sense and the pacing would work in the same way the rest of the show worked.
But D&D and whoever else aren’t GRRM so they couldn’t write his book and it came out badly. Not their fault; he was supposed to be done by then. If he had been the ending would be “the same” but it would have worked. Maybe people wouldn’t like king bran, but they wouldn’t have been that mad. Plenty of stuff has kind of bad endings but is still loved.
I don’t understand why he doesn’t believe in himself enough to know that. Maybe because then he would have to accept that he ruined the biggest show of the 2010s and what would have been that last big blow-out budget mass TV phenomena before it died by not finishing on time.
>The trouble is the ending wouldn’t be bad if HE had written it
What makes you so sure? The last two books were shit, so why would it be different this time? The man admitted to going to the Fire and Ice wiki because he can't even remember his own characters anymore
I mean there’s “bad to (You)” and there’s “bad to the mass of the audience”. It would probably be the former since you’re a joyless grinch but it wouldn’t have been the latter.
The problem is the execution. How the frick are you going to say the others are the biggest threat of all time, le winter is le coming for almost 10 years, and then the entire threat is over within 2 episodes and they get as far as ..............Winterfell. And this is with Westeros getting absolutely ravaged for 7 seasons straight with war. Imagine how much of a non-issue they would have been with all the power players still alive like Robert, Ned, Tywin, Robb, etc etc.
The war with the others alone should have been a 10-12 episode season moving all the way down to King's Landing. Instead we see a 90lb chain smoking bong end it all with a knife. Show was so fricking bad it makes me cringe to this day
I feel like the entire series is constantly foreshadowing and hinting that the end is everyone dying to the night people, but between being a coward and too many people predicting it he backed out.
Nah there are other factors in the books that completely change the story
It's more probable that Cersei dies in the winds of winter and in the last book someone like Euron is the one of endgame boss ( with the white walkers being the main focus)
I don't think Dany's supposed to go "evil" and because we have her PoV, we're supposed to understand that her cruelties are logical and not from insanity. She'll burn down king's landing by accidentally blasting a wildfire cache, setting off a chain reaction that blows up the whole city.
Isn't he still using that old piece of shit software from the 80s to write everything? At this point, you might as well have some AI chat finish the series.
A ton of prolific writers do to the point it’s kind of a meme.
Like Danielle Steele has some whole thing describing her workday and she uses some ancient computer still.
Go away roastie, no one cares about your porn authors.
Fricking moron it’s just an example of the phenomenon
have a nice day drooling fricking mongoloid
Phone posting moronic pornbrain roastie is seething.
t. moron
meant for
I always mistake Danielle Steele for Sandra Brown. At some point there was this rumour going around when I was a bit older that she was actually a pen name for several authors, but she turned out to be real, still alive and still writing books.
No one asked
Yeah it was in response to an accusation that she had ghostwriters that she wrote out a whole explanation of her daily routine including the old computer.
Contrast with James Patterson who may have been a writer at one point but is now 100% a brand name with a fleet of a dozen different writers with obviously distinct styles.
>Current mood: depressed
I don't get it. We beat up emos for doing this shit back in the 90/00s how did it become encouraged behavior for grown men.
Toxic fans are pretty stupid, imagine clinging to a long dead franchise and expecting it to get any better.
george summons so much hate, its really funny
>reminder
he is a better writer and artist than you ever will be, is wealthier than you ever will be, and has left a mark on fiction and fantasy that is akin to our generations tolkien, seethe!
>our generation’s Tolkien
>is overly cynical and doesn’t finish his magnum opus out of pure laziness
Accurate but not in a good way
>george summons so much hate, its really funny
He has truly butt fricked this website, especially Cinemaphile
>and has left a mark on fiction and fantasy that is akin to our generations tolkien
I mean is that true? People already seem to be forgetting about his works.
>I mean is that true
He literally has R and R in his name
holy fricking cope, name the last big fantasy series outside of ASOIAF, closest thing is stormlight slop and its a 1/10th as popular or impactful
Anon, by those same metrics we can say that Baywatch had limitless cultural impact. Being successful at the time has nothing to do with staying power.
Time will tell. Stick around for another 20 or 30 years and you'll see for yourself whether younger generations will revist George's work and take inspiration from it or if it was just a flash in the pan limited to our own generation. For what it's worth, "Game of Thrones" has become a byword for political intrigue for a lot of people. If you sat down right now and wrote a gritty fantasy novel about people backstabbing one another in a bid for power, your work would inevitably be compared to that of the fat man. But we'll see if this will last. Personally I do believe that leaving his life's work unfinished is going to kneecap George's legacy badly.
>Personally I do believe that leaving his life's work unfinished is going to kneecap George's legacy badly.
I believe the opposite will happen and in fact, I think GRRM _wants_ to leave ASOIAF unfinished, as there's no way he can ever write anything that will satisfy the Internet (which has discussed and debated his story for almost 30 years now.
His is a vital lesson in the importance of tempo and pace when writing a series
>there's no way he can ever write anything that will satisfy the Internet
It's really easy actually. Shed some light on the old gods, explain what the others motivation is, bring Jon back, bring Dany west, war with the others, solve the war with the others, put a targaryen on the throne
Also ignore everyone who asks if Nimbus Smalldick of House Horny is the son of a Sorrowful Man and a kraken and is currently fricking Arianne and just focus on the main story.
there is no reason for dany to want to go to Westeros. The logical thing in the world is for her to tell them all the frick off.
>there is no reason for dany to want to go to Westeros
except, you know, the entire reason for her story and existence.
>entire reason for her story and existence.
she wants a simple life and was happy with Drogo.
He doesn't need to write something that would satisfy the majority of readers, a controversial ending would do just fine for securing his legacy.
But leaving the reader hanging after two thirds of the way? Who would want to start reading in the series in the future, knowing perfectly well that it just randomly stops with zero resolution for any of the major protagonists? Sure, many of the people who got invested into ASOIAF before it became clear that it's headed for a dead end will always wonder what could've been. But those people will go extinct eventually. You only get to have a legacy if you create something that will remain accessible and/or impactful for the children of the original audience and their children in turn. I don't see how ASOIAF is supposed to stay relevant for new generations in its current state. The missing ending will carry no mystique for the people who are born in 2024. It'll just be a red flag that they should steer clear of the series altogether.
Get a life
Take your favorite character's advice, George. It's better to face a hard truth than run from it.
GRRM wants to leave it unfinished, because after the book comes out his libtard “fans” will immediately cancel him for writing rape scenes about underage characters. He saw what happened to JK Rowling. Withholding Winds is the only card he has to keep them at bay.
If he had finished his seven books, true fair play. He will be forgotten within 15 years after his passing whereas Tolkien will live on for generations to come. It really is a shame
I looked up the bestselling books by year hoping to dunk on Martin by Harry Potter claiming in their publication years, but not only was Harry Potter beaten by random John Grisham novels every year, but the first YA to be the bestseller for its year was diary of a wimpy kid and Tolkien wasn’t the bestseller in its year for any LOTR book, only the somatic lion (not looking up how to spell it).
I think it's more about lasting cultural impact than record breaking sales. Are there university classes based on that lion book, for example? I think Harry Potter is the only title that can approach the impact of Tolkien's works but on a much lower level.
Indeed.
False. The culture of hate will continue to grow and his legacy will be shit upon for all time
He looks like a wizard here
Martin has lived too long to salvage his legacy, if he had died even a few years ago, say just before covid, people would still lie to themselves that the books were just around the corner, to be completed during lockdown. now such delusions aren't possible
Finish the book, no one cares about your politics you fat boomer moron
The market is oversaturated so fans can afford to shit on stuff they used to like. Its like how women are with men.
It's so fricking sad that Aemon's corpse has been sitting in a barrel of rum since 2005.
Even sadder that George regrets killing him off because he had secrets and Important lore that can't be revealed now
>it heckin can't be revealed now
He's the author, just make something up. Oh look Aemon's old book, wonder what he wrote in there???
This is what I don't get. He's used this excuse before because something something like the books are writing themselves and he has no control over them. It's so weird, but I think it's either him trying to justify unpopular choices or realising his style of making shit up along the way didn't go as planned.
>i make the story up as i go along
>but i also have a fixed end destination
>this is totally conductive to efficient and speedy writing with a clear and coherent plot thread and compelling narrative
Unironic pseud. A literal freshman writer knows better than this. Once you hit a critical mass of plates spinning everything goes to shit. You can tell all he wrote before were mostly unconnected short stories
The truth is that the show ended exactly how he planned for the books. And the backlash just made him give up on it entirely.
Neil Gaiman said it best:
GRRM is not your b***h. Understand?
oh but he is
Yes he is and Gayman is a b***h too
That’s true; he’s more like a free use b***h
Sorta sounds like he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't both sellout to HBO AND pretend you care about your work as an author. Pick a lane. The correct lane is to sellout and then gtfo of the public eye.
Too fat to gtfo
i like him
I'd rather read ASOIAF/GoT fanfics then see him finish the series.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11973805/1/The-Dance-is-not-over MOGS House of the Blacked Dragon
Gene Wolfe finished the first drafts of each book in his series before moving on to improving/preparing the first one.
>toxicity is growing
hey. THAT'S US!
>Gurm can't even finish his dark fantasy world where half of the cast dies and every character is some varying shade of gray
What a whiny fat b***h
It's funny Cinemaphile hates George based solely on this caricature people paint of him here. You quoted some gay article about his blog post instead of his actual blog post and took the quotes out of context to make it sound like he was mad at Game of Thrones fans when that's actually not what he was talking about at all
The two most common things people accuse him of is:
>being lazy
>not caring
Truth is if he was lazy he would have retired already, and if he didn't care the series would be finished by now and he would've made gorillions more dollars off it. He's just a neurotic autist that cares too much and works too much on dozens of other projects that aren't ASOIAF
The fact that he procrastinates by working on other things doesn’t make him not lazy
>reading genre literature
>waaaah I'm depressed
frick you, finish writing
>current year is bad because....because it just is okay???
frick you, finish writing
>muh fans are mad at meeeeeee
FRICK YOU, FINISH WRITING
i hate that George is letting "the world" get to him. There has always been something going on, we're just tuned into it now. Get over it. It's got nothing to do with you. Live your fricking life. Write your fricking book!
Trump is just too powerful. when the lefties lost in 2016 they were essentially castrated publicly in a worldwide humiliation ritual, you can't expect them to just get over it, they're completely cooked
You are you people so fixated on public humiliation and castration
You always sound like you’re typing with one hand imagining some big boi pounding you in a full Nelson at an assembly
You're just mad cuz you wanted it be us up there on the castration stage to point and laugh, but it just didn't work out that way I'm sorry
heh its always funny when rich people pretend to have real problems